The Panama Papers exposed a huge global problem. What's next? | Robert Palmer

136,353 views ใƒป 2016-05-02

TED


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Seon-Gyu Choi ๊ฒ€ํ† : JY Kang
00:13
[On April 3, 2016 we saw the largest data leak in history.]
0
13580
3681
[2016๋…„ 4์›” 3์ผ. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ƒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์ •๋ณด ์œ ์ถœ์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.]
00:18
[The Panama Papers exposed rich and powerful people]
1
18061
2831
[๋ถ€ํ˜ธ์™€ ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์ž๋“ค์ด ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๊ธˆ์•ก์„ ์—ญ์™ธ๊ณ„์ขŒ์— ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด
00:20
[hiding vast amounts of money in offshore accounts.]
2
20932
2450
[ํŒŒ๋‚˜๋งˆ ํŽ˜์ดํผ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ํญ๋กœ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.]
00:23
[What does this mean?]
3
23828
2510
[์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์˜๋ฏธ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?]
00:27
[We called Robert Palmer of Global Witness to explain.]
4
27312
2900
[๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์œ„ํŠธ๋‹ˆ์Šค์˜ ๋กœ๋ฒ„ํŠธ ํŒŒ๋จธ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•ด ์•Œ์•„๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.]
00:32
This week, there have been a whole slew and deluge of stories
5
32852
4952
์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ, ํŒŒ๋‚˜๋งˆ ์†Œ์žฌ ๋ฒ•๋ฌด๋ฒ•์ธ์ธ ๋ชจ์ƒ‰ ํฐ์„ธ์นด์—์„œ ์œ ์ถœ๋œ
00:37
coming out from the leak of 11 million documents
6
37828
3296
์ฒœ๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๊ฑด์˜ ๋ฌธ์„œ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด
00:41
from a Panamanian-based law firm called Mossack Fonseca.
7
41148
4424
์ •๋ง ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์Ÿ์•„์ง€๋“ฏ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:45
The release of these papers from Panama lifts the veil on a tiny piece
8
45596
5782
์ด๋ฒˆ ํŒŒ๋‚˜๋งˆ ํŽ˜์ดํผ๋กœ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋น„๋ฐ€์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์—ญ์™ธ ์กฐ์„ธ๋„ํ”ผ ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜
00:51
of the secretive offshore world.
9
51402
2238
๋น™์‚ฐ์˜ ์ผ๊ฐ์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:53
We get an insight into how clients and banks and lawyers
10
53664
5308
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜๋ขฐ์ธ, ์€ํ–‰, ๋ณ€ํ˜ธ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ
00:58
go to companies like Mossack Fonseca
11
58996
2028
๋ชจ์ƒ‰ ํฐ์„ธ์นด ๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ์ฐพ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ
01:01
and say, "OK, we want an anonymous company,
12
61048
2507
"์ข‹์•„์š”. ์ต๋ช…์˜ ๋ฒ•์ธ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ๋ฐ, ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?" ๋ผ๊ณ 
01:03
can you give us one?"
13
63579
1392
๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํŒŒํ—ค์น˜๊ณ ์ž ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:04
So you actually get to see the emails,
14
64995
1810
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ์กฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ 
01:06
you get to see the exchanges of messages,
15
66829
1963
์ฃผ๊ณ ๋ฐ›์€ ๋ฉ”์„ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ด์•ผ
01:08
you get to see the mechanics of how this works,
16
68816
3075
์ด ์ž‘์—…์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๋Š”์ง€
01:11
how this operates.
17
71915
1401
๊ณผ์ •์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:13
Now, this has already started to have pretty immediate repercussions.
18
73340
4053
์ด๋ฏธ ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ฆ‰๊ฐ์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:17
The Prime Minister of Iceland has resigned.
19
77417
2601
์•„์ด์Šฌ๋žœ๋“œ์˜ ์ด๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์ž„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:20
We've also had news
20
80042
1215
๋˜ํ•œ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์•„์˜ ์ž”์ธํ•œ ๋…์žฌ์ž์ธ
01:21
that an ally of the brutal Syrian dictator Bashar Al-Assad
21
81281
5043
๋ฐ”์‚ฌ๋ฅด ์•Œ ์•„์‚ฌ๋“œ์˜ ์ธก๊ทผ์ด ์—ญ์™ธํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š”
01:26
has also got offshore companies.
22
86348
2555
๋‰ด์Šค๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:28
There's been allegations of a $2 billion money trail
23
88927
5229
20์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ๋ˆ์˜ ํ”์ ์ด
01:34
that leads back to President Vladimir Putin of Russia
24
94180
3903
๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„์˜ ์œ ๋ช… ์ฒผ๋ฆฌ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์ณ ๊ทธ์˜ ์–ด๋ฆฐ์‹œ์ ˆ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ธ
01:38
via his close childhood friend,
25
98107
2461
๋ธ”๋ผ๋””๋ฏธ๋ฅด ํ‘ธํ‹ด ๋Œ€ํ†ต๋ น์—๊ฒŒ๊นŒ์ง€
01:40
who happens to be a top cellist.
26
100592
2228
์ด์–ด์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ํ˜์˜๋„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:42
And there will be a lot of rich individuals out there
27
102844
2600
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚  ์‚ฌ์‹ค๊ณผ
01:45
and others who will be nervous about the next set of stories
28
105468
4318
์œ ์ถœ๋œ ๋ฌธ์„œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ „์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ๋ถ€ํ˜ธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
01:49
and the next set of leaked documents.
29
109810
2553
๊ธด์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:52
Now, this sounds like the plot of a spy thriller
30
112387
4186
์ด๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ฒฉ๋ณด ์Šค๋ฆด๋Ÿฌ๋ฌผ์˜ ์ค„๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜
01:56
or a John Grisham novel.
31
116597
1663
์กด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์ƒด์˜ ์†Œ์„ค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
01:58
It seems very distant from you, me, ordinary people.
32
118284
4016
์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ์ € ๊ฐ™์€ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์ด๋“ค๊ณผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋จผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:02
Why should we care about this?
33
122324
2508
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์™œ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์จ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
02:04
But the truth is that if rich and powerful individuals
34
124856
4243
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ˆ ๋งŽ๊ณ  ํž˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
02:09
are able to keep their money offshore
35
129123
2654
๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ˆ์„ ์กฐ์„ธ๋„ํ”ผ์ฒ˜์— ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๊ณ 
02:11
and not pay the taxes that they should,
36
131801
2487
๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•  ์„ธ๊ธˆ์„ ๋‚ด์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
02:14
it means that there is less money for vital public services
37
134312
4094
์˜๋ฃŒ๋ณดํ—˜, ๊ต์œก, ๋„๋กœ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ณต ์„œ๋น„์Šค์—
02:18
like healthcare, education, roads.
38
138430
3353
์“ฐ์ผ ๋ˆ์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:21
And that affects all of us.
39
141807
2321
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ฃผ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
Now, for my organization Global Witness,
40
144152
2716
์ œ๊ฐ€ ์†Œ์†๋œ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์œ„ํŠธ๋‹ˆ์Šค์—์„œ๋Š”
02:26
this exposรฉ has been phenomenal.
41
146892
4062
์ด ํญ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฝ์ด๋กœ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:30
We have the world's media and political leaders
42
150978
4488
์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๋Œ€์ค‘๋งค์ฒด์™€ ์ •์น˜ ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์ด ์ด์ œ
02:35
talking about how individuals can use offshore secrecy
43
155490
4655
์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ด ์—ญ์™ธ ๋น„๋ฐ€๊ณ„์ขŒ๋ฅผ ์ด์šฉํ•ด
02:40
to hide and disguise their assets --
44
160169
2395
์ž์‚ฐ์„ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์œ„์žฅํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:42
something we have been talking about and exposing for a decade.
45
162588
4784
์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚œ ์‹ญ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ํญ๋กœํ•ด ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:47
Now, I think a lot of people find this entire world baffling and confusing,
46
167396
4635
๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์กฐ์„ธํ”ผ๋‚œ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ๋‹นํ™ฉ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ ,
02:52
and hard to understand how this sort of offshore world works.
47
172055
4465
ํ˜ผ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ , ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“ค๋‹ค๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฆฌ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:56
I like to think of it a bit like a Russian doll.
48
176544
2832
์ €๋Š” ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„ ์ธํ˜•๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:59
So you can have one company stacked inside another company,
49
179400
3459
ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์•ˆ์— ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ 
03:02
stacked inside another company,
50
182883
2111
๊ทธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์•ˆ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:05
making it almost impossible to really understand
51
185018
4411
๊ทธ ๋ฐฐํ›„์— ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ž€
03:09
who is behind these structures.
52
189453
2227
๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋กœ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:11
It can be very difficult for law enforcement
53
191704
2913
๋ฒ• ์ง‘ํ–‰๊ธฐ๊ด€์ด๋‚˜, ์กฐ์„ธ๋‹น๊ตญ, ๊ธฐ์ž๋“ค,
03:14
or tax authorities, journalists, civil society
54
194641
2963
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹œ๋ฏผ๋‹จ์ฒด๋“ค๋„ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€
03:17
to really understand what's going on.
55
197628
2262
์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:20
I also think it's interesting
56
200318
1437
๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€
03:21
that there's been less coverage of this issue in the United States.
57
201779
3207
๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์ƒ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:25
And that's perhaps because some prominent US people
58
205010
3763
๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์ €๋ช…ํ•œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์ด
03:28
just haven't figured in this exposรฉ, in this scandal.
59
208797
4538
๋‹จ์ง€ ์ด๋ฒˆ ํญ๋กœ ์Šค์บ”๋“ค์—์„œ๋Š” ๋“ฑ์žฅํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„ ๋ฟ์ด๊ณ ,
03:33
Now, that's not because there are no rich Americans
60
213359
3935
์ด๋Š” ์กฐ์„ธํ”ผ๋‚œ์ฒ˜์— ์ž์‚ฐ์„ ์ˆจ๊ฒจ๋†“๋Š”
03:37
who are stashing their assets offshore.
61
217318
2810
๋ถ€์ž ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
03:40
It's just because of the way in which offshore works,
62
220152
3822
๋‹จ์ง€ ์—ญ์™ธ๋ฒ•์ธ์ด ์šด์˜๋˜๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ
03:43
Mossack Fonseca has fewer American clients.
63
223998
3490
๋ชจ์ƒ‰ ํฐ์„ธ์นด๋ฅผ ์ด์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๊ตญ์ ์˜ ์˜๋ขฐ์ธ์ด ์ ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
I think if we saw leaks from the Cayman Islands
64
227512
3256
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์œ ์ถœ์ด ์ผ€์ด๋ฉ˜ ์ œ๋„๋‚˜
03:50
or even from Delaware or Wyoming or Nevada,
65
230792
3651
๋ธ๋ผ์›จ์–ด, ์™€์ด์˜ค๋ฐ, ๋„ค๋ฐ”๋‹ค์ฃผ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๋ฉด
03:54
you would see many more cases and examples linking back to Americans.
66
234467
5792
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด ์—ฐ๋ฃจ๋œ ์˜๋ขฐ ๊ฑด์ˆ˜์™€ ์‚ฌ๋ก€๋ฅผ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:00
In fact, in a number of US states you need less information,
67
240283
5918
์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋‚ด ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์ฃผ์—์„œ๋Š”
ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์„ค๋ฆฝ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ œ์ถœํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€ ๋„์„œ๊ด€ ๋Œ€์ถœ์ฆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค
04:06
you need to provide less information to get a company
68
246225
4174
04:10
than you do to get a library card.
69
250423
2793
์ ์€ ์ฃผ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:13
That sort of secrecy in America has allowed employees of school districts
70
253240
5782
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ์˜ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋น„๋ฐ€๊ณ„์ขŒ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ํ•™๊ตฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ํ–‰์ •์ง์›๋“ค์ด
04:19
to rip off schoolchildren.
71
259046
1906
ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์”Œ์šฐ๊ณ 
04:20
It has allowed scammers to rip off vulnerable investors.
72
260976
4896
์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐœ๋ฏธํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค์„ ์†์ด๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:26
This is the sort of behavior that affects all of us.
73
266452
3690
์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ–‰๋™๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:30
Now, at Global Witness,
74
270166
1871
์ด์ œ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์œ„ํŠธ๋‹ˆ์Šค์—์„œ๋Š”
04:32
we wanted to see what this actually looked like in practice.
75
272061
3261
์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:35
How does this actually work?
76
275346
2413
์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
04:37
So what we did
77
277783
1175
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š”
04:38
is we sent in an undercover investigator to 13 Manhattan law firms.
78
278982
6237
๋งจํ•˜ํŠผ์— ์žˆ๋Š” 13๊ฐœ์˜ ๋ฒ•๋ฌด๋ฒ•์ธ์— ๋น„๋ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์‚ฌ๊ด€์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:45
Our investigator posed as an African minister
79
285763
3774
์ €ํฌ ์ˆ˜์‚ฌ๊ด€์€ ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์žฅ๊ด€ ํ–‰์„ธ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ 
04:49
who wanted to move suspect funds into the United States
80
289561
4127
์˜์‹ฌ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์˜ฎ๊ฒจ
04:53
to buy a house, a yacht, a jet.
81
293712
3139
์ง‘, ์š”ํŠธ, ์ œํŠธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:57
Now, what was truly shocking was that all but one of those lawyers
82
297288
5061
์ •๋ง ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ํ•œ ๋ช…์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•œ
05:02
provided our investigator with suggestions
83
302373
4593
๋ชจ๋“  ๋ณ€ํ˜ธ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ ์ˆ˜์‚ฌ๊ด€์—๊ฒŒ
์˜์‹ฌ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ์˜ฎ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ์ถ”์ฒœํ•ด ์ฃผ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์  ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:06
on how to move those suspect funds.
84
306990
1964
05:08
These were all preliminary meetings,
85
308978
1812
์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ „๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ์ „ ๋ฏธํŒ…์ด์˜€๊ณ 
05:10
and none of the lawyers took us on as a client
86
310814
2272
์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:13
and of course no money moved hands,
87
313110
2289
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ˆ์„ ์˜ฎ๊ธฐ์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ
05:15
but it really shows the problem with the system.
88
315423
3458
์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์—ฌ์‹คํžˆ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:18
It's also important
89
318905
1919
์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€
05:20
to not just think about this as individual cases.
90
320848
3366
์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋น„๋‹จ ๊ฐœ๊ฐœ์ธ์— ๊ตญํ•œํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Œ์„ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:24
This is not just about an individual lawyer
91
324238
2213
์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋น„๋ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์‚ฌ๊ด€๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
05:26
who's spoken to our undercover investigator and provided suggestions.
92
326475
3854
๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ œ์•ˆํ•ด ์ค€ ๋ณ€ํ˜ธ์‚ฌ๋“ค์— ๊ตญํ•œ๋œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:30
It's not just about a particular senior politician
93
330353
2855
์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์Šค์บ”๋“ค์— ์—ฐ๋ฅ˜๋œ ํŠน์ • ์›๋กœ ์ •์น˜์ธ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ
05:33
who's been caught up in a scandal.
94
333232
1629
์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:34
This is about how a system works,
95
334885
3056
์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ€ํŒจ, ์กฐ์„ธํšŒํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋นˆ๊ณค๊ณผ ๋ถˆ์•ˆ์ •์ด
05:37
that entrenches corruption, tax evasion, poverty and instability.
96
337965
5943
๋‹จ๋‹จํžˆ ์ž๋ฆฌ์žก์€ ์ด ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š”๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:43
And in order to tackle this,
97
343932
1815
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ง‰๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”
05:45
we need to change the game.
98
345771
1671
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํŒ์„ ํ”๋“ค ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:47
We need to change the rules of the game
99
347466
2522
์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ–‰๋™๋“ค์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“ค๋„๋ก
05:50
to make this sort of behavior harder.
100
350012
1992
๊ฒŒ์ž„์˜ ๊ทœ์น™์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:52
This may seem like doom and gloom,
101
352028
2944
์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ๋“ค์„ ๋น„๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋ฉด
05:54
like there's nothing we can do about it,
102
354996
1921
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์€ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†๊ณ 
05:56
like nothing has ever changed,
103
356941
1630
์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
05:58
like there will always be rich and powerful individuals.
104
358595
3336
๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๋“  ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ถ€์ž์™€ ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์ž๋“ค์ด ์กด์žฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:01
But as a natural optimist,
105
361955
2447
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์„ ์ฒœ์  ๋‚™๊ด€์ฃผ์˜์ž์ธ ์ €๋Š”
06:04
I do see that we are starting to get some change.
106
364426
3478
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:07
Over the last couple of years,
107
367928
1875
์ง€๋‚œ 2๋…„์—ฌ ๋™์•ˆ
06:09
we've seen a real push towards greater transparency
108
369827
3668
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ์†Œ์œ ๊ถŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ๋ช…์„ฑ์ด
06:13
when it comes to company ownership.
109
373519
1834
์ง„์ผ๋ณดํ–ˆ์Œ์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:15
This issue was put on the political agenda
110
375755
2337
์ด ์ด์Šˆ๋Š” 2013๋…„์— ๋ถ ์•„์ผ๋žœ๋“œ์—์„œ ์—ด๋ฆฐ
06:18
by the UK Prime Minister David Cameron
111
378116
2494
G8 ์ •์ƒํšŒ๋‹ด์—์„œ ์˜๊ตญ ์ด๋ฆฌ์ธ ๋ฐ์ด๋ธŒ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ฃฌ์— ์˜ํ•ด
06:20
at a big G8 Summit that was held in Northern Ireland in 2013.
112
380634
4760
์ •์น˜์  ์˜์ œ๋กœ ์ƒ์ •๋˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:25
And since then, the European Union is going to be creating
113
385872
4350
๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๋กœ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ ์—ฐํ•ฉ์—์„œ๋Š”
๊ตญ๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ์ฐจ์›์—์„œ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์˜
06:30
central registers at a national level
114
390246
2157
06:32
of who really owns and controls companies across Europe.
115
392427
3407
์‹ค์†Œ์œ ์ž์™€ ์šด์˜์ž๋ฅผ ๋“ฑ๋กํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ์ œ๋„๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:35
One of the things that is sad is that, actually, the US is lagging behind.
116
395858
4679
ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•ˆํƒ€๊นŒ์šด ์ ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ์ด ์ ์—์„œ ๋’ค์ณ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์  ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:40
There's bipartisan legislation that had been introduced
117
400958
2700
๋ฐฑ์•…๊ด€๊ณผ ์ƒ์›์—์„œ
06:43
in the House and the Senate,
118
403682
1903
์ดˆ๋‹น์ ์ธ ๋ฒ•๋ฅ ์ด ์•ˆ๊ฑด์— ์˜ฌ๋ž์ง€๋งŒ
06:45
but it isn't making as much progress as we'd like to see.
119
405609
3157
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŒํผ์˜ ์ง„์ „์€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:48
So we'd really want to see the Panama leaks,
120
408790
3087
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฒˆ ํŒŒ๋‚˜๋งˆ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์œผ๋กœ
06:51
this huge peek into the offshore world,
121
411901
3794
์ด ์—ญ์™ธ๋„ํ”ผ์ฒ˜ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋‚ฑ๋‚ฑํžˆ ์‚ดํŽด๋ด„์œผ๋กœ์จ
06:55
be used as a way of opening up in the US and around the world.
122
415719
5052
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๋น„๋กฏํ•ด ์ „์„ธ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋œจ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:00
For us at Global Witness, this is a moment for change.
123
420795
4790
์ €ํฌ ๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ์œ„ํŠธ๋‹ˆ์Šค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”์˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:05
We need ordinary people to get angry
124
425950
3748
๋น„๋ฐ€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ ๋’ค์— ์ˆจ์–ด
07:09
at the way in which people can hide their identity
125
429722
3253
์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์„ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
07:12
behind secret companies.
126
432999
1913
ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ถ„๋…ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:14
We need business leaders to stand up and say,
127
434936
3587
๊ธฐ์—…๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜
07:18
"Secrecy like this is not good for business."
128
438547
3284
"์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋น„๋ฐ€์œ ์ง€๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…์— ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค"๊ณ  ์™ธ์ณ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:21
We need political leaders to recognize the problem,
129
441855
4380
์ •์น˜ ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์€ ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ธ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋น„๋ฐ€์„ ๋ฐํž ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก
07:26
and to commit to changing the law to open up this sort of secrecy.
130
446259
5007
๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:31
Together, we can end the secrecy
131
451639
3279
๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
์กฐ์„ธํšŒํ”ผ, ๋ถ€ํŒจ, ๋ˆ ์„ธํƒ์„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์ผ€ ํ•˜๋Š”
07:34
that is currently allowing tax evasion,
132
454942
3057
์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋น„๋ฐ€์Šค๋Ÿฐ ์ผ๋“ค์„ ๋๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:38
corruption, money laundering to flourish.
133
458023
3191
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

https://forms.gle/WvT1wiN1qDtmnspy7