A call to men | Tony Porter

トニー・ポーター:男達への提言

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翻訳: Chieko Tamakawa 校正: Keiko Tanaka
00:15
I grew up in New York City,
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私が育ったのはNY市の
00:18
between Harlem and the Bronx.
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ハーレムとブロンクスの間でした
00:20
Growing up as a boy, we were taught
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子供の頃 こう言われました
00:22
that men had to be tough, had to be strong,
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男たるものはタフで強く―
00:24
had to be courageous, dominating --
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勇敢で人の上に立ち
00:27
no pain, no emotions,
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痛みにも 動揺するなと言われた
00:29
with the exception of anger --
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持っていい感情は怒りだけ
00:31
and definitely no fear;
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恐れなど持つな
00:33
that men are in charge,
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男には責任があるが
00:35
which means women are not;
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女にはない
00:37
that men lead,
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世の中を引っ張るのは男だ
00:39
and you should just follow and do what we say;
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四の五の言わずついてこい
00:42
that men are superior; women are inferior;
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男性は優れていて 女性は劣っている
00:45
that men are strong; women are weak;
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男性は強く 女性は弱い
00:48
that women are of less value,
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女性は価値が低く
00:51
property of men,
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男性の付属品
00:53
and objects,
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道具です
00:55
particularly sexual objects.
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もっと言うと性的な対象だ
00:58
I've later come to know that to be
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のちに私は気付きました
01:01
the collective socialization of men,
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こうして男性は社会化され
01:04
better known
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「男らしさ」の枠に
01:06
as the "man box."
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閉じ込められるのです
01:08
See this man box has in it
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この箱の中には
01:10
all the ingredients
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よく言われているような
01:12
of how we define what it means to be a man.
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「男性らしさ」が入っています
01:14
Now I also want to say, without a doubt,
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ここで断言しておきますが
01:16
there are some wonderful, wonderful,
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男性でいることには
01:18
absolutely wonderful things
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とても素晴らしいことも
01:20
about being a man.
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もちろんあります
01:22
But at the same time,
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しかし同時に
01:24
there's some stuff
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もろに歪んでいる―
01:26
that's just straight up twisted,
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「男らしさ」もあります
01:28
and we really need to begin
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ですからこの場を借りて
01:30
to challenge, look at it
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この定義に疑問を投げかけ
01:32
and really get in the process
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「男らしさ」の要素を
01:34
of deconstructing, redefining,
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ひとつひとつ分解し
01:37
what we come to know as manhood.
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再定義してみようと思います
01:41
This is my two at home, Kendall and Jay.
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私の子供ケンダルとジェイ
01:43
They're 11 and 12.
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12歳と11歳の兄妹で
01:45
Kendall's 15 months older than Jay.
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年の差は15ヶ月
01:47
There was a period of time when my wife -- her name is Tammie -- and I,
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妻のタミーと私は共働きで
01:50
we just got real busy and whip, bam, boom:
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あくせく勤めていたら
01:52
Kendall and Jay.
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ケンダルとジェイが生まれました
01:54
(Laughter)
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(笑い)
01:56
And when they were about five and six,
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子供達がまだ5歳か6歳の
01:58
four and five,
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幼かったときは
02:00
Jay could come to me,
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ジェイが私のところに
02:02
come to me crying.
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泣きながらやってきたら
02:04
It didn't matter what she was crying about,
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理由が何であっても
02:06
she could get on my knee, she could snot my sleeve up,
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私は娘をひざに座らせて
02:08
just cry, cry it out.
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泣き止むのを待ち
02:10
Daddy's got you. That's all that's important.
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父として娘の傍にいました
02:13
Now Kendall on the other hand --
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しかしケンダルには違います
02:15
and like I said, he's only 15 months older than her --
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15ヶ月早く生まれただけですが
02:18
he'd come to me crying,
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彼が私のところに
02:20
it's like as soon as I would hear him cry,
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泣きながらやってくるのが分かると
02:22
a clock would go off.
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私はカウントを始めます
02:24
I would give the boy probably about 30 seconds,
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私のところに来るまでに
02:27
which means, by the time he got to me,
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30秒ほど間をおいてから
02:30
I was already saying things like, "Why are you crying?
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「どうしたんだ?
02:32
Hold your head up. Look at me.
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顔を上げて 私を見なさい
02:35
Explain to me what's wrong.
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理由を説明しなさい
02:37
Tell me what's wrong. I can't understand you.
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言わなければ分からないよ
02:39
Why are you crying?"
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何で泣いているんだ」と質問します
02:41
And out of my own frustration
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そして自分の息子を
02:43
of my role and responsibility
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「男らしく」育てるという
02:45
of building him up as a man
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父親としての責任を
02:47
to fit into these guidelines
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無理に果たそうとすると
02:49
and these structures that are defining this man box,
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だんだん腹が立ってきて
02:52
I would find myself saying things like,
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つい言ってしまうのです
02:54
"Just go in your room.
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「部屋に戻りなさい―
02:56
Just go on, go on in your room.
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いいから戻るんだ
02:58
Sit down,
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大人しく座って
03:00
get yourself together
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頭を冷やしてから
03:02
and come back and talk to me
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また話に来るときは
03:04
when you can talk to me like a --" what?
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もっと「何らしく」話しなさいと?
03:06
(Audience: Man.)
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(観客 「男らしく」)
03:08
Like a man.
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そうです
03:10
And he's five years old.
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息子はまだ5歳なのに
03:12
And as I grow in life,
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私も幼い頃は
03:14
I would say to myself,
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よく思いました
03:16
"My God, what's wrong with me?
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僕のどこがいけないんだろう
03:18
What am I doing? Why would I do this?"
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何でだろう と考えました
03:21
And I think back.
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息子をしかった時は
03:23
I think back to my father.
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父のことを思い出します
03:26
There was a time in my life
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私達の家族は
03:28
where we had a very troubled experience in our family.
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とても辛い経験をしました
03:31
My brother, Henry, he died tragically
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私がまだ10代のころ
03:33
when we were teenagers.
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兄弟のヘンリーが亡くなりました
03:35
We lived in New York City, as I said.
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当時私たち家族は
03:37
We lived in the Bronx at the time,
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ブロンクスに住んでいて
03:40
and the burial was in a place called Long Island,
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葬儀が行われたロングアイランドは
03:43
it was about two hours outside of the city.
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家から2時間ぐらい離れていました
03:46
And as we were preparing
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葬儀を終え
03:48
to come back from the burial,
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家に戻る準備をし
03:50
the cars stopped at the bathroom
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この先の長い道のりを考え
03:52
to let folks take care of themselves
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みんなにトイレを済ませてもらおうと
03:54
before the long ride back to the city.
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車を停めました
03:56
And the limousine empties out.
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母や姉妹などは
03:58
My mother, my sister, my auntie, they all get out,
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リムジンから降りましたが
04:00
but my father and I stayed in the limousine,
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父と私は残っていました
04:03
and no sooner than the women got out,
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女性達がその場を去ると
04:06
he burst out crying.
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突然父が泣き出しました
04:09
He didn't want cry in front of me,
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私に見られたくなかったでしょうが
04:11
but he knew he wasn't going to make it back to the city,
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このままでは帰り道に泣いてしまうと思ったのでしょう
04:14
and it was better me than to allow himself
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女達の前で悲しがるよりは
04:16
to express these feelings and emotions in front of the women.
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息子の前の方がましだと考える
04:19
And this is a man
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これが男性です
04:21
who, 10 minutes ago,
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ほんの10分前に
04:23
had just put his teenage son
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自分の息子を
04:25
in the ground --
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埋葬したばかり
04:27
something I just can't even imagine.
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私には考えられないことです
04:32
The thing that sticks with me the most
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一番心に残っているのは
04:34
is that he was apologizing to me
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私の前で泣いたのを
04:37
for crying in front of me,
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父が謝ったことです
04:39
and at the same time, he was also giving me props,
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そして両手を差し出して
04:42
lifting me up,
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私が泣かないように
04:44
for not crying.
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抱え上げてくれました
04:46
I come to also look at this
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このように男性は
04:49
as this fear that we have as men,
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「男性らしさ」の定義から
04:51
this fear that just has us paralyzed,
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外れる事を恐れるがために
04:53
holding us hostage
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泣きたい時も
04:55
to this man box.
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泣けないのです
04:57
I can remember speaking
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そういえば以前
04:59
to a 12-year-old boy, a football player,
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12歳のフットボール選手に
05:01
and I asked him, I said,
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聞いたことがあります
05:03
"How would you feel if,
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「君のことをコーチが
05:05
in front of all the players,
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チーム全員の前で
05:07
your coach told you you were playing like a girl?"
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女みたいと言ったらどう思う?」
05:10
Now I expected him to say something like,
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悲しいとか腹が立つと
05:12
I'd be sad; I'd be mad; I'd be angry, or something like that.
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答えると思っていたら
05:14
No, the boy said to me --
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その男の子は
05:16
the boy said to me,
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こう言ったのです
05:18
"It would destroy me."
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「生きて行けないよ」
05:21
And I said to myself,
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私はこう思いました
05:24
"God, if it would destroy him
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女呼ばわりされると
05:26
to be called a girl,
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男子は生きていけないのなら
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what are we then teaching him
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男子にどうやって
05:31
about girls?"
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女子のこと教えられるでしょうか
05:34
(Applause)
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(拍手)
05:38
It took me back to a time
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私が12歳ぐらいのときは
05:40
when I was about 12 years old.
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どうだったでしょうか
05:43
I grew up in tenement buildings in the inner city.
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ブロンクスのスラム街近くの
05:46
At this time we're living in the Bronx,
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安アパートで暮らしていました
05:48
and in the building next to where I lived there was a guy named Johnny.
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隣に住むジョニーは
05:51
He was about 16 years old,
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16歳ぐらいでしたから
05:53
and we were all about 12 years old -- younger guys.
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私達は弟分でした
05:55
And he was hanging out with all us younger guys.
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よくみんなで遊んでいましたが
05:57
And this guy, he was up to a lot of no good.
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ジョニーは不良だったので
05:59
He was the kind of kid who parents would have to wonder,
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親達は心配していました
06:01
"What is this 16-year-old boy doing with these 12-year-old boys?"
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「どんな遊びをしているのだろう?」ってね
06:04
And he did spend a lot of time up to no good.
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悪さばかりしていたジョニーは
06:06
He was a troubled kid.
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問題児扱いでした
06:08
His mother had died from a heroin overdose.
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母親がヘロイン中毒で亡くなり
06:10
He was being raised by his grandmother.
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祖母に育てられたのです
06:12
His father wasn't on the set.
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父親はいません
06:14
His grandmother had two jobs.
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祖母はずっと仕事で
06:16
He was home alone a lot.
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ジョニーは家に一人ぼっち
06:18
But I've got to tell you, we young guys,
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でも私達の間では
06:20
we looked up to this dude, man.
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尊敬されていました
06:22
He was cool. He was fine.
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おしゃれで格好良いジョニーは
06:25
That's what the sisters said, "He was fine."
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女の子からもモテて
06:28
He was having sex.
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恋人もいたので
06:30
We all looked up to him.
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憧れの的でした
06:32
So one day, I'm out in front of the house doing something --
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ある日 家の外で
06:34
just playing around, doing something -- I don't know what.
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何かをして遊んでいると
06:37
He looks out his window; he calls me upstairs; he said, "Hey Anthony."
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ジョニーが部屋の窓から
06:39
They called me Anthony growing up as a kid.
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私のニックネームで
06:41
"Hey Anthony, come on upstairs."
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「アンソニー」と呼ぶのです
06:43
Johnny call, you go.
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来いと言われたので
06:45
So I run right upstairs.
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急いで上がって行くと
06:47
As he opens the door, he says to me, "Do you want some?"
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「お前もやるか」と聞かれました
06:50
Now I immediately knew what he meant.
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すぐに何か分かりました
06:52
Because for me growing up at that time,
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当時少年だった私の
06:54
and our relationship with this man box,
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「男らしい」行動を考えると
06:56
"Do you want some?" meant one of two things:
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「やるか?」と聞かれた場合
06:58
sex or drugs --
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セックスかドラックです
07:00
and we weren't doing drugs.
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ドラッグはやっていませんでした
07:02
Now my box, my card,
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すると
07:04
my man box card,
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私の「男らしさ」は
07:06
was immediately in jeopardy.
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窮地に立たされました
07:08
Two things: One, I never had sex.
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私はセックスも未経験だった
07:11
We don't talk about that as men.
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それは男同士で話しませんでした
07:13
You only tell your dearest, closest friend, sworn to secrecy for life,
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よほどの親友でなければ
07:16
the first time you had sex.
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初体験の話はしない
07:18
For everybody else, we go around like we've been having sex since we were two.
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君が初めてだよと言う人は
07:21
There ain't no first time.
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たいてい噓つきです
07:23
(Laughter)
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(笑い)
07:26
The other thing I couldn't tell him is that I didn't want any.
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しかし どちらも嫌と言うのも
07:28
That's even worse. We're supposed to always be on the prowl.
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男としては恥ずかしいことです
07:31
Women are objects,
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女はいつも男にとって
07:33
especially sexual objects.
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性的対象なのですから
07:35
Anyway, so I couldn't tell him any of that.
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私は迷っていました
07:37
So, like my mother would say, make a long story short,
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結局ジョニーには
07:39
I just simply said to Johnny, "Yes."
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「やるよ」とだけ言いました
07:41
He told me to go in his room.
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彼の部屋に行くと
07:43
I go in his room. On his bed is a girl from the neighborhood named Sheila.
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ベッドに近所のシェイラがいました
07:46
She's 16 years old.
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16歳の彼女は
07:48
She's nude.
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裸でした
07:50
She's what I know today to be mentally ill,
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当時は知らなかったのですが
07:52
higher-functioning at times than others.
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シェイラは知的障害があったのです
07:55
We had a whole choice of inappropriate names for her.
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彼女をひどく侮辱してから
07:59
Anyway, Johnny had just gotten through having sex with her.
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ジョニーはセックスをしました
08:02
Well actually, he raped her, but he would say he had sex with her.
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レイプに近い状況でしたが
08:05
Because, while Sheila never said no,
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シェイラは断らなかったと言うのです
08:08
she also never said yes.
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しかし許してもいません
08:10
So he was offering me the opportunity to do the same.
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そして私もやれと言うのです
08:12
So when I go in the room, I close the door.
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部屋に入ってドアを閉めると
08:15
Folks, I'm petrified.
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私は動けなくなりました
08:17
I stand with my back to the door so Johnny can't bust in the room
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そしてジョニーが入って来ないように
08:19
and see that I'm not doing anything,
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ドアを背中で押さえていました
08:21
and I stand there long enough that I could have actually done something.
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かなりの長い間何もしないで
08:24
So now I'm no longer trying to figure out what I'm going to do;
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ドアの所に立って考えていたのは
08:26
I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to get out of this room.
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どうやって部屋を出るかでした
08:29
So in my 12 years of wisdom,
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まだ12歳の私は
08:31
I zip my pants down,
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ズボンのチャックを下ろして
08:33
I walk out into the room,
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部屋を出たのです
08:35
and lo and behold to me,
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するとどうでしょう
08:37
while I was in the room with Sheila,
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シェイラと部屋にいた時
08:39
Johnny was back at the window calling guys up.
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ジョニーは仲間を呼んだらしく
08:42
So now there's a living room full of guys.
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リビングは人がたくさんいて
08:44
It was like the waiting room in the doctor's office.
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病院の待合室のようでした
08:47
And they asked me how was it,
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感想を聞かれたので
08:49
and I say to them, "It was good,"
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「よかった」と言っておきました
08:52
and I zip my pants up in front of them,
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それからチャックを上げて
08:54
and I head for the door.
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玄関に向かったのです
08:56
Now I say this all with remorse,
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今も後悔しています
08:58
and I was feeling a tremendous amount of remorse at that time,
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当時はもっと後悔していました
09:00
but I was conflicted, because, while I was feeling remorse, I was excited,
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嘘がバレなかったことは
09:03
because I didn't get caught.
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嬉しかったのですが
09:05
But I knew I felt bad about what was happening.
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悪いことをした気分でした
09:07
This fear, getting outside the man box,
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「男らしく」ないことをしたと
09:10
totally enveloped me.
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不安になりました
09:12
It was way more important to me,
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私にとって重要だったのは
09:14
about me and my man box card
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シェイラに対する事ではなく
09:17
than about Sheila
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私が「男らしく」ない行動を
09:19
and what was happening to her.
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してしまった事でした
09:21
See collectively, we as men
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男性は一般的に
09:23
are taught to have less value in women,
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女性を見下したがり
09:25
to view them as property and the objects of men.
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女性を男性の所有物と考えます
09:28
We see that as an equation that equals violence against women.
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それらが女性に対する暴力になるのです
09:31
We as men, good men,
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男性の大多数は
09:33
the large majority of men,
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とても賢い生き物だから
09:35
we operate on the foundation
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社会全体の根幹を
09:37
of this whole collective socialization.
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男性が支配しているなどど
09:39
We kind of see ourselves separate, but we're very much a part of it.
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人間を分けて考えるのが男性です
09:42
You see, we have to come to understand
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みなさんに分かって欲しいのは
09:45
that less value, property and objectification is the foundation
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女性に対する見下した態度が
09:48
and the violence can't happen without it.
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女性への暴力を生むことです
09:50
So we're very much a part of the solution
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問題を起こしている男性自身が
09:53
as well as the problem.
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その解決の鍵なのです
09:55
The center for disease control says
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疾病管理センターによると
09:57
that men's violence against women is at epidemic proportions,
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女性が男性からの暴力で
10:00
is the number one health concern for women
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健康を害する場合が多い事は
10:02
in this country and abroad.
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世界的な問題です
10:04
So quickly, I'd like to just say,
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愛する娘ジェイのために
10:07
this is the love of my life, my daughter Jay.
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言っておきたい事があります
10:10
The world I envision for her --
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男性がどう行動すれば
10:12
how do I want men to be acting and behaving?
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娘が安心できるのでしょうか
10:14
I need you on board. I need you with me.
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みなさんも私と一緒に
10:16
I need you working with me and me working with you
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息子達をどう育てればいいのか
10:19
on how we raise our sons
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ぜひ考えて下さい
10:21
and teach them to be men --
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そして「男らしく」あるには
10:23
that it's okay to not be dominating,
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威圧的でなくてもよく
10:25
that it's okay to have feelings and emotions,
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感情的であってもよく
10:28
that it's okay to promote equality,
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男女平等の考えで
10:30
that it's okay to have women who are just friends and that's it,
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女性と付き合っても良いと
10:33
that it's okay to be whole,
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息子に教えるのです
10:35
that my liberation as a man
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私が男性として自由になれば
10:38
is tied to your liberation as a woman. (Applause)
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あなたも女性として自由になれます
10:41
I remember asking a nine-year-old boy,
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私はかつて9歳の息子に
10:44
I asked a nine-year-old boy,
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こう尋ねたことがあります
10:47
"What would life be like for you,
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「男らしさにこだわらずに
10:49
if you didn't have to adhere to this man box?"
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生きていいとしたら?」
10:51
He said to me, "I would be free."
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息子は「自由になれる」と言いました
10:53
Thank you folks.
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ありがとう
10:55
(Applause)
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