The surprising decline in violence | Steven Pinker

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Prevoditelj: Marko Fuček Recezent: Hrvoje Simic
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Images like this, from the Auschwitz concentration camp,
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Prizori poput ovog iz koncentracijskog logora Auschwitz,
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have been seared into our consciousness during the 20th century
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urezali su se u našu svijest tijekom 20. stoljeća
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and have given us a new understanding of who we are,
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i pružili su nam novo shvaćanje o tome tko smo,
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where we've come from and the times we live in.
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odakle dolazimo i o vremenu u kojemu živimo.
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During the 20th century, we witnessed the atrocities
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Tijekom 20. stoljeća svjedočili smo zločinima
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of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Rwanda and other genocides,
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Staljina, Hitlera, Maoa, Pol Pota, genocidu u Ruandi i drugdje,
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and even though the 21st century is only seven years old,
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a iako 21. stoljeće traje tek sedam godina
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we have already witnessed an ongoing genocide in Darfur
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već smo svjedočili genocidu u Darfuru, koji je u tijeku,
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and the daily horrors of Iraq.
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i svakodnevnim užasima Iraka.
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This has led to a common understanding of our situation,
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To je oblikovalo opće mišljenje o našoj situaciji,
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namely, that modernity has brought us terrible violence,
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kako je suvremeno doba donijelo užasnu razinu nasilja i kako su možda
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and perhaps that native peoples lived in a state of harmony
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primitivni ljudi živjeli u skladu kojeg smo mi,
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that we have departed from, to our peril.
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na svoju pogibelj, izgubili. Evo primjera:
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Here is an example from an op-ed on Thanksgiving,
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komentar povodom Dana zahvalnosti u Boston Globeu
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in the "Boston Globe" a couple of years ago,
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prije par godina, u kojem autor piše: "Život Indijanaca
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where the writer wrote, "The Indian life was a difficult one,
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bio je težak, ali nije bilo problema s nezaposlenošću,
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but there were no employment problems,
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community harmony was strong, substance abuse unknown,
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društvo je bilo skladno, nije bilo ovisnosti,
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crime nearly nonexistent.
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kriminal gotovo da i nije postojao, a ako bi izbio rat među plemenima
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What warfare there was between tribes was largely ritualistic
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bio je uglavnom ritualan i rijetko je vodio neselektivnom
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and seldom resulted in indiscriminate or wholesale slaughter."
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ili masovnom pokolju." Svi ste upoznati s ovim romantičnim viđenjem.
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Now you're all familiar with this treacle.
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01:41
We teach it to our children.
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Prenosimo ga djeci, čujemo na televiziji
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We hear it on television and in storybooks.
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i čitamo u pričama. Izvorni naslov ovoga predavanja
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Now, the original title of this session was, "Everything You Know is Wrong,"
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bio je "Sve što znate je pogrešno" i predstaviti ću dokaze
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and I'm going to present evidence
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that this particular part of our common understanding is wrong,
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da je ovo konkretno opće uvjerenje pogrešno:
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that, in fact, our ancestors were far more violent than we are,
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da su naši preci zapravo bili daleko nasilniji od nas,
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that violence has been in decline for long stretches of time,
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da se razina nasilja kroz dugo vrijeme smanjivala
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and that today, we are probably living in the most peaceful time
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te da danas vjerojatno živimo u najmirnijem razdoblju
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in our species's existence.
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postojanja naše vrste. U desetljeću Darfura i Iraka
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Now in the decade of Darfur and Iraq,
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a statement like that might seem somewhere between hallucinatory and obscene,
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takva se tvrdnja može činiti zaluđenom
ili čak opscenom. Ali pokušat ću vas uvjeriti
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but I'm going to try to convince you that that is the correct picture.
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kako je ispravna. Smanjivanje razine nasilja
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The decline of violence is a fractal phenomenon.
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fraktalni je fenomen. Možete ga pratiti kroz tisućljeća,
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You can see it over millennia, over centuries, over decades
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kroz stoljeća, kroz desetljeća i kroz godine,
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and over years,
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although there seems to have been a tipping point
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iako je, izgleda, došlo do prekretnice početkom
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at the onset of the Age of Reason in the 16th century.
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Doba razuma u 16. stoljeću.
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One sees it all over the world, although not homogeneously.
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Primjetna je u cijelom svijetu, iako ne podjednako.
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It's especially evident in the West,
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Posebno je vidljiva na Zapadu, isprva u Engleskoj
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beginning with England and Holland around the time of the Enlightenment.
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i Nizozemskoj oko razdoblja Prosvjetiteljstva.
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Let me take you on a journey of several powers of 10 --
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Povesti ću vas na putovanje od nekoliko faktora 10 -
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from the millennium scale to the year scale --
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s tisućljetne razine na godišnju -
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to try to persuade you of this.
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kako bi vas pokušao uvjeriti u to. Do prije 10.000 godina, svi ljudi
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Until 10,000 years ago, all humans lived as hunter-gatherers,
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živjeli su kao lovci-skupljači, bez trajnih naseobina ili vlada.
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without permanent settlements or government.
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Ovo stanje općenito se smatra
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And this is the state that's commonly thought to be one of primordial harmony.
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društvom izvornog sklada. Međutim,
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But the archaeologist Lawrence Keeley,
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arheolog Lawrence Keely, istražujući učestalost smrti
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looking at casualty rates among contemporary hunter-gatherers,
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među suvremenim lovcima-skupljačima - što je naš najbolji izvor
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which is our best source of evidence about this way of life,
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činjenica o njihovom načinu života - došao je do drugačijeg zaključka.
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has shown a rather different conclusion.
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Here is a graph that he put together,
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Na ovome grafu prikazao je
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showing the percentage of male deaths due to warfare
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postotak muškaraca umrlih kao posljedica ratovanja
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in a number of foraging or hunting and gathering societies.
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u više skupljačkih i lovačko-skupljačkih društava.
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The red bars correspond to the likelihood that a man will die
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Crvene crte odgovaraju vjerojatnosti da je čovjeka ubio
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at the hands of another man,
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drugi čovjek, nasuprot vjerojatnosti smrti
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as opposed to passing away of natural causes,
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od prirodnih uzroka, u raznim skupljačkim društvima
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in a variety of foraging societies in the New Guinea highlands
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na visoravnima Nove Gvineje i u prašumama Amazone.
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and the Amazon rain forest.
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And they range from a rate of almost a 60 percent chance that a man will die
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Postoci su u rasponu od gotovo 60% vjerojatnosti smrti
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at the hands of another man
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kao posljedice ubojstva do, u slučaju Gebusija,
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to, in the case of the Gebusi, only a 15 percent chance.
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samo 15%. Mala plava crta u donjem lijevom kutu
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The tiny little blue bar in the lower left-hand corner
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označava odgovarajuću statistiku za SAD i Europu u 20. stoljeću
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plots the corresponding statistic from the United States and Europe
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in the 20th century,
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i uključuje sve smrti u oba svjetska rata.
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and it includes all the deaths of both World Wars.
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Da se smrtnost plemenskog ratovanja održala i tijekom 20. stoljeća,
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If the death rate in tribal warfare had prevailed during the 20th century,
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poginule bi dvije milijarde ljudi, umjesto 100 milijuna.
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there would have been two billion deaths rather than 100 million.
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Also on the millennium scale,
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Također, na razini tisućljeća možemo uočiti
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we can look at the way of life of early civilizations,
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način života ranih civilizacija, poput onih opisanih
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such as the ones described in the Bible.
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u Bibliji. U tom tobožnjem izvoru naših moralnih vrijednosti
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And in this supposed source of our moral values,
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one can read descriptions of what was expected in warfare,
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može se pročitati što se očekivalo u ratu,
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such as the following, from Numbers 31:
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kao na primjer u Brojevima 31: "I pođoše u boj
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"And they warred against the Midianites as the Lord commanded Moses,
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proti Midjanaca, kako je bio Gospod zapovjedio Mojsiju,
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and they slew all the males.
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i pobiše sve muške osobe. Reče im Mojsije:
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And Moses said unto them, 'Have you saved all the women alive?
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"A što ostaviste na životu sve žene? Zato sada pobijte svu
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Now, therefore, kill every male among the little ones
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djecu mušku i sve žene udate.
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and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him,
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A sve mlade djevojke, koje još nijesu udate,
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but all the women children that have not known a man by lying with him,
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ostavite za sebe na životu." Drugim riječima,
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keep alive for yourselves.'"
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In other words: kill the men, kill the children.
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ubijete muškarce, ubijte djecu, a ako vidite djevice
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If you see any virgins, then you can keep them alive so that you can rape them.
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možete ih ostaviti na životu kako bi ih mogli silovati.
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And you can find four or five passages in the Bible of this ilk.
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Možete pronaći četiri ili pet ovakvih odlomaka u Bibliji.
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Also in the Bible, one sees that the death penalty was the accepted punishment
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Također, u Bibliji je smrtna kazna
prihvatljiva za zločine poput homoseksualnosti,
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for crimes such as homosexuality,
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adultery, blasphemy, idolatry, talking back to your parents --
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preljuba, bogohulstva, idolatrije, drskog odgovaranja roditeljima -
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(Laughter)
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(smijeh) - i skupljanje granja na šabat
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and picking up sticks on the Sabbath.
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Well, let's click the zoom lens down one order of magnitude
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Približimo se sada
za jedan red veličine i pogledajmo razinu stoljeća.
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and look at the century scale.
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Now, although we don't have statistics for warfare
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Iako nemamo statistike ratovanja za razdoblje
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throughout the Middle Ages to modern times,
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od srednjeg vijeka do suvremenog doba,
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we know just from conventional history
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znamo iz konvencionalne povijesti -
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that the evidence was under our nose all along
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cijelo vrijeme su nam pod nosom bili dokazi da se smanjivala
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that there has been a reduction in socially sanctioned forms of violence.
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razina društveno prihvatljivog nasilja.
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For example, any social history will reveal that mutilation and torture
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Na primjer, društvena povijest nam kazuje kako su sakaćenje i mučenje
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were routine forms of criminal punishment.
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bili rutinski oblici kažnjavanja kriminalaca. Prekršaj zbog kojega
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The kind of infraction today that would give you a fine,
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bi danas dobili novčanu kaznu, u to doba bio bi kažnjen
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in those days, would result in your tongue being cut out,
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odsjecanjem jezika, ušiju ili osljepljivanjem,
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your ears being cut off, you being blinded,
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a hand being chopped off and so on.
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odsijecanjem ruke i slično.
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There were numerous ingenious forms of sadistic capital punishment:
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Postojali su brojni domišljati oblici sadističkih smrtnih kazni:
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burning at the stake, disemboweling, breaking on the wheel,
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paljenje na lomači, vađenje utrobe, lomljenje na kotaču,
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being pulled apart by horses and so on.
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četvorenje i tako dalje.
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The death penalty was a sanction for a long list of nonviolent crimes:
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Smrt je bila kazna za čitav niz nenasilnih zločina:
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criticizing the king, stealing a loaf of bread.
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kritiziranje kralja, krađu kruha. Ropstvo je, naravno,
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Slavery, of course, was the preferred labor-saving device,
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bilo omiljen način uštede na radnoj snazi, a okrutnost je
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and cruelty was a popular form of entertainment.
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bila popularan oblik zabave. Možda je najzorniji primjer
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Perhaps the most vivid example was the practice of cat burning,
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praksa paljenja mačaka, kada bi mačku objesili
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in which a cat was hoisted on a stage and lowered in a sling into a fire,
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na pozornici i spustili u vatru,
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and the spectators shrieked in laughter as the cat, howling in pain,
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a publika bi vrištala od smijeha dok bi mačka, zavijajući od boli,
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was burned to death.
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bila spaljena na smrt.
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What about one-on-one murder?
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Što je s pojedinačnim ubojstvima? Za to postoje dobre statistike
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Well, there, there are good statistics,
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because many municipalities recorded the cause of death.
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jer su mnoge općine bilježili uzroke smrti.
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The criminologist Manuel Eisner
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Kriminolog Manuel Eisner
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scoured all of the historical records across Europe
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pretražio je sve povijesne zapise diljem Europe,
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for homicide rates in any village, hamlet, town, county that he could find,
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tražeći stope ubojstva u svim selima, zaseocima, gradovima i okruzima
koje je mogao naći i nadopunio ih je
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and then he supplemented them with national data
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podacima na nacionalnoj razini od vremena kad su se počele voditi.
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when nations started keeping statistics.
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He plotted on a logarithmic scale,
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Unio ih je na logaritamsku skalu, počevši sa 100 smrti
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going from 100 deaths per 100,000 people per year,
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na 100.000 ljudi na godinu, što je otprilike stopa
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which was approximately the rate of homicide in the Middle Ages,
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ubojstava u srednjem vijeku. Vrijednost se obrušila
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and the figure plummets down
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to less than one homicide per 100,000 people per year
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na manje od jednog ubojstva na 100.000 ljudi godišnje
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in seven or eight European countries.
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u sedam ili osam europskih zemalja. Postoji manji porast
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Then, there is a slight uptick in the 1960s.
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tijekom 1960-ih. Tvrdnje kako će rock dovesti
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The people who said that rock and roll would lead to the decline of moral values
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do pada moralnih vrijednosti zapravo su imale zrno istine u sebi.
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actually had a grain of truth to that.
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07:50
But there was a decline from at least two orders of magnitude in homicide
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No, došlo je do pada stope ubojstava od barem
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from the Middle Ages to the present,
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dva reda veličine od srednjeg vijeka do sadašnjosti,
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and the elbow occurred in the early 16th century.
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a do prijeloma je došlo početkom 16. stoljeća.
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Let's click down now to the decade scale.
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Spustimo se na razinu desetljeća.
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According to nongovernmental organizations that keep such statistics,
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Prema nevladinim organizacijama
koje su vodile takve statistike, od 1945. u Europi i Amerikama
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since 1945, in Europe and the Americas,
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there has been a steep decline in interstate wars,
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došlo je do naglog smanjenja broja međudržavnih ratova,
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in deadly ethnic riots or pogroms
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smrtonosnih etničkih nereda ili pogroma i vojnih udara,
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and in military coups, even in South America.
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čak i u Južnoj Americi. U cijelom svijetu, naglo je smanjen broj
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Worldwide, there's been a steep decline in deaths in interstate wars.
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smrti u međudržavnim ratovima. Žuti stupci pokazuju broj
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The yellow bars here show the number of deaths per war per year
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smrti po ratu po godini od 1950. do danas.
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from 1950 to the present.
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And, as you can see, the death rate goes down
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Kao što možete vidjeti, stopa smrtnosti pala je sa 65.000 smrti
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from 65,000 deaths per conflict per year in the 1950s
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po sukobu po godini 1950. na manje od 2.000 smrti
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to less than 2,000 deaths per conflict per year in this decade,
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po sukobu po godini u ovome desetljeću, iako je i to tragično.
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as horrific as it is.
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08:46
Even in the year scale, one can see a decline of violence.
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Čak je i na razini godina primjetan pad razine nasilja.
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Since the end of the Cold War, there have been fewer civil wars,
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Od kraja Hladnoga rata manje je građanskih ratova,
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fewer genocides -- indeed, a 90 percent reduction since post-World War II highs --
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manje genocida - pad od 90% od vrhunca u godinama nakon Drugoga svjetskog rata,
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and even a reversal of the 1960s uptick in homicide and violent crime.
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a čak je i preokrenut porast stope ubojstava i nasilnih zločina iz 1960-ih.
09:05
This is from the FBI uniform crime statistics.
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Ovo je prema unificiranim statistikama kriminala FBI-a: kao što vidite
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You can see that there's a fairly low rate of violence in the '50s and the '60s,
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razina nasilja prilično je niska 50-ih i 60-ih,
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then it soared upward for several decades
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zatim je porasla kroz nekoliko desetljeća i počela
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and began a precipitous decline, starting in the 1990s,
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strmo padati, počevši od '90-ih te se vratila
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so that it went back to the level that was last enjoyed in 1960.
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gotovo na razinu iz 1960.
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President Clinton, if you're here: thank you.
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Predsjedniče Clinton, ako ste ovdje, hvala vam.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:29
So the question is:
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Dakle pitanje je: zašto je toliko ljudi u krivu
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Why are so many people so wrong about something so important?
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u nečemu tako važnome? Smatram kako postoji niz razloga.
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I think there are a number of reasons.
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One of them is we have better reporting.
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Jedan je taj što imamo bolja izviješća: "Associated Press
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The Associated Press is a better chronicler of wars
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bolji je kroničar ratova na Zemlji
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over the surface of the earth
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09:43
than 16th-century monks were.
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no što su to bili redovnici iz 16. stoljeća."
09:45
(Laughter)
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There's a cognitive illusion.
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We cognitive psychologists know
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Postoji spoznajna iluzija: mi kognitivni psiholozi znamo da
09:49
that the easier it is to recall specific instances of something,
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što se je lakše prisjetiti konkretnih primjera nečega,
09:55
the higher the probability that you assign to it.
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tome pripisujemo veću vjerojatnost.
09:58
Things that we read about in the paper with gory footage
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Svari koje pročitamo u novinama sa krvavim snimkama
10:02
burn into memory more than reports of a lot more people dying
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zapeku nam se u sjećanje snažnije nego izvješća o smrti
10:06
in their beds of old age.
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daleko većeg broja ljudi od starosti.
10:09
There are dynamics in the opinion and advocacy markets;
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Tržišta zagovaranja su dinamična: nitko ne privlači promatrače,
10:13
no one ever attracted advocates and donors
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zagovornike i donatore govoreći
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by saying, "Things just seem to be getting better and better."
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"čini se da se situacija stalno poboljšava."
10:21
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
10:22
There's guilt about our treatment of native peoples
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Prisutan je osjećaj krivnje u modernom intelektualnom
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in modern intellectual life,
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životu zbog našeg tretmana domorodaca i nespremnosti na priznanje
10:26
and an unwillingness to acknowledge there could be anything good
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kako bi moglo biti nečega dobrog u zapadnjačkoj kulturi.
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about Western culture.
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And, of course, our change in standards can outpace the change in behavior.
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I naravno, promjene naših standarda mogu preteči promjene
10:36
One of the reasons violence went down
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u ponašanju. Jedan od razloga zašto se razina nasilja smanjila
10:38
is that people got sick of the carnage and cruelty in their time.
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je taj što je ljudima bilo dosta pokolja i okrutnosti u njihovo doba.
10:42
That's a process that seems to be continuing,
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Taj se proces, izgleda, nastavlja,
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but if it outstrips behavior by the standards of the day,
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ali ako pretiće ponašanje u odnosu na suvremene standarde,
10:49
things always look more barbaric than they would have been
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stvari uvijek izgledaju barbarskije nego što bi bile
10:52
by historic standards.
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po povijesnim mjerilima. Stoga se danas uznemirujemo - i to s pravom -
10:53
So today, we get exercised -- and rightly so --
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if a handful of murderers get executed by lethal injection in Texas
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ako se nekoliko ubojica pogubi smrtonosnom injekcijom
u Teksasu nakon 15-ogodišnjeg žalbenog postupka. Ne uzimamo u obzir
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after a 15-year appeal process.
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11:06
We don't consider that a couple of hundred years ago,
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činjenicu da bi prije nekoliko stoljeća možda bili spaljeni
11:08
they may have been burned at the stake for criticizing the king after a trial
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na lomači zbog kritiziranja kralja nakon suđenja
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that lasted 10 minutes,
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koje bi trajalo 10 minuta - i da bi se to uvijek iznova
11:15
and indeed, that that would have been repeated over and over again.
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ponavljalo. Danas smrtnu kaznu smatramo
11:18
Today, we look at capital punishment
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as evidence of how low our behavior can sink,
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dokazom niske razine na koju se naše ponašanje može spustiti,
11:24
rather than how high our standards have risen.
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umjesto dokaza kako su se naši standardi povisili.
11:27
Well, why has violence declined?
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Dakle, zašto se razina nasilja smanjila? Nitko zapravo ne zna,
11:30
No one really knows, but I have read four explanations,
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ali pročitao sam četiri objašnjenja, i mislim da je svako od njih
11:35
all of which, I think, have some grain of plausibility.
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donekle uvjerljivo. Prvo od njih je:
11:38
The first is: maybe Thomas Hobbes got it right.
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možda je Thomas Hobbes bio u pravu. On je rekao da je
11:41
He was the one who said
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that life in a state of nature was "solitary, poor, nasty,
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život u prirodnom stanju bio "usamljenički, siromašan, gadan, nasilan
11:46
brutish and short."
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i kratak." Ne zato, tvrdio je, što su
11:48
(Laughter)
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11:49
Not because, he argued,
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humans have some primordial thirst for blood
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ljudi po prirodi krvožedni,
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or aggressive instinct or territorial imperative,
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ili zbog agresivnog instinkta ili teritorijalnih pitanja,
11:57
but because of the logic of anarchy.
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nego zbog logike anarhije. U stanju anarhije
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In a state of anarchy,
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there's a constant temptation to invade your neighbors preemptively,
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postoji stalno iskušenje preventivnog napada na susjeda,
12:05
before they invade you.
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prije no što on napadne tebe. Kasnije je Thomas Schelling
12:06
More recently, Thomas Schelling gives the analogy
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iznio analogiju s kućevlasnikom koji čuje buku
12:09
of a homeowner who hears a rustling in the basement.
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12:11
Being a good American, he has a pistol in the nightstand,
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u podrumu. Kao dobar Amerikanac, ima pištolj
uz krevet, uzima ga i spušta se niz stube.
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pulls out his gun, walks down the stairs.
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And what does he see but a burglar with a gun in his hand?
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Tamo vidi provalnika koji također drži pištolj.
12:20
Now, each one of them is thinking,
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I jedan i drugi misle,
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"I don't really want to kill that guy, but he's about to kill me.
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"Zapravo ne želim ubiti tog tipa, no on se sprema ubiti mene.
12:25
Maybe I had better shoot him before he shoots me,
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Možda je bolje da ga upucam prije nego on mene,
12:29
especially since, even if he doesn't want to kill me,
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pogotovo zato što, čak i ako me ne namjerava ubiti,
12:31
he's probably worrying right now that I might kill him before he kills me."
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vjerojatno također brine da bi ja mogao ubiti njega
prije nego što on ubije mene." - i tako dalje.
12:35
And so on.
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12:36
Hunter-gatherer peoples explicitly go through this train of thought
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Lovačko-skupljačka plemena eksplicitno prolaze kroz takav tok misli
12:41
and will often raid their neighbors out of fear of being raided first.
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i često će napasti susjede iz straha da ne bi sami bili napadnuti.
12:46
Now, one way of dealing with this problem is by deterrence.
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Jedan od načina rješavanja ovog problema je odvraćanje:
12:50
You don't strike first, but you have a publicly announced policy
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ne napadate prvi, ali javno obznanite politiku
12:55
that you will retaliate savagely if you are invaded.
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kako ćete se divljački osvetiti ako netko napadne vas.
12:58
The only thing is that it's liable to having its bluff called,
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Jedini problem s takvom politikom
je njena ranjivost na prozivanje blefa, i može funkcionirati jedino
13:03
and therefore can only work if it's credible.
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ako je uvjerljiva. Da bi bila uvjerljiva morate osvetiti sve uvrede
13:06
To make it credible, you must avenge all insults and settle all scores,
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i podmiriti sve račune, što dovodi do ciklusa krvnih osveta.
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which leads to the cycles of bloody vendetta.
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13:14
Life becomes an episode of "The Sopranos."
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Život postaje epizoda Sopranosa. Hobbesovo riješenje,
13:17
Hobbes's solution, "Leviathan,"
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"Levijatan," počiva na povjeravanju ovlasti za legitimnu uporabu
13:20
was that if authority for the legitimate use of violence
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sile jednom demokratskom organu - levijatanu -
13:24
was vested in a single democratic agency -- a leviathan --
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13:29
then such a state can reduce the temptation of attack,
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tada takvo stanje umanjuje iskušenje za napad,
13:32
because any kind of aggression will be punished,
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jer bi svaka agresija bila kažnjena,
13:35
leaving its profitability zero.
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što bi poništilo njenu isplativost. To bi uklonilo i iskušenje
13:38
That would remove the temptation to invade preemptively
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preventivnog napada zbog straha da ćete biti napadnuti.
13:42
out of fear of them attacking you first.
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13:44
It removes the need for a hair trigger for retaliation
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Također, uklanja potrebu za brzim osvetama
13:48
to make your deterrent threat credible,
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kojima se prijetnja odmazde čini uvjerljivom. Stoga bi to dovelo
13:50
and therefore, it would lead to a state of peace.
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do stanja mira. Eisner - čovjek koji je zabilježio stope ubojstava koje
13:53
Eisner -- the man who plotted the homicide rates
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that you failed to see in the earlier slide --
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niste mogli vidjeti na ranijoj slici -
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argued that the timing of the decline of homicide in Europe
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tvrdio je kako je pad stope ubojstava u Europi
14:04
coincided with the rise of centralized states.
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istovremen sa usponom centralizirane države.
14:08
So that's a bit of a support for the leviathan theory.
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To donekle podržava teoriju levijatana.
14:11
Also supporting it is the fact that we today see eruptions of violence
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Također, podržava je i činjenica što danas svjedočimo erupciji nasilja
14:15
in zones of anarchy, in failed states, collapsed empires,
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u anarhičnim zonama: neuspjelim državama, palim carstvima,
14:19
frontier regions, mafias, street gangs and so on.
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graničnim regijama, mafijama, uličnim bandama itd.
14:24
The second explanation is that in many times and places,
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Drugo objašnjenje je da u mnogim dobima i mjestima
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there is a widespread sentiment that life is cheap.
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postoji rašireni osjećaj da je život jeftin.
14:31
In earlier times, when suffering and early death were common in one's own life,
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U prijašnjim vremenima, kada je patnja i preuranjena smrt bila uobičajna
u životu pojedinca, bilo je manje grižnje savjesti oko nanošenja istih
14:37
one has fewer compunctions about inflicting them on others.
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drugima. Kako tehnologija i gospodarska učinkovitost čine život
14:41
And as technology and economic efficiency make life longer and more pleasant,
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dužim i ugodnijim, pojedinac više vrednuje život.
14:45
one puts a higher value on life in general.
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14:48
This was an argument from the political scientist James Payne.
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To je bio argument politologa Jamesa Paynea.
14:52
A third explanation invokes the concept of a nonzero-sum game,
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Treće objašnjenje poziva se na koncept "igre nenultog zbroja,"
14:56
and was worked out in the book "Nonzero" by the journalist Robert Wright.
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i razrađeno je u knjizi "Nonzero" novinara
Roberta Wrighta. Wright ističe da u određenim okolnostima
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Wright points out that, in certain circumstances,
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cooperation or nonviolence can benefit both parties in an interaction,
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suradnja, uključujući nenasilje, može koristiti objema stranama
u interakciji, npr. u trgovini kada dvije strane razmjenjuju
15:08
such as gains in trade when two parties trade their surpluses
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svoje viškove obje zarađuju, ili kada dvije strane
15:14
and both come out ahead,
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15:15
or when two parties lay down their arms
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polože oružje i podijele tzv. dividendu mira,
15:18
and split the so-called peace dividend
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15:20
that results in them not having to fight the whole time.
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rezultat toga što se ne moraju stalno boriti.
15:23
Wright argues that technology has increased the number
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Wright tvrdi da je tehnologija povećala broj
15:26
of positive-sum games that humans tend to be embroiled in,
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igara pozitivnog zbroja u koje se ljudi uključuju
15:30
by allowing the trade of goods, services and ideas
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omogućavajući trgovinu dobrima, uslugama i idejama
15:34
over longer distances and among larger groups of people.
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preko većih udaljenosti i između većih grupa ljudi.
15:37
The result is that other people become more valuable alive than dead,
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Kao rezultat toga, drugi ljudi postaju vredniji živi nego mrtvi,
15:41
and violence declines for selfish reasons.
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a razina nasilja opada zbog sebičnih razloga. Kako se Wright izrazio,
15:45
As Wright put it,
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"Among the many reasons that I think that we should not bomb the Japanese
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"Među brojnim razlozima zašto smatram da ne bi trebali bombardirati
Japance je i taj što su napravili moj karavan."
15:50
is that they built my minivan."
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15:52
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
15:54
The fourth explanation is captured in the title of a book
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Četvrto objašnjenje izraženo je u naslovu knjige
15:58
called "The Expanding Circle," by the philosopher Peter Singer,
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"Šireći krugovi" filozofa Petera Singera,
16:02
who argues that evolution bequeathed humans with a sense of empathy,
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koji tvrdi da je evolucija podala ljudima osjećaj
empatije: sposobnost odnošenja prema tuđim interesima
16:07
an ability to treat other people's interests as comparable to one's own.
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usporedivo kao s vlastitima. Nažalost, obično ga
16:13
Unfortunately, by default,
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16:14
we apply it only to a very narrow circle of friends and family.
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primjenjujemo samo na vrlo uski krug prijatelja i obitelji.
16:18
People outside that circle are treated as subhuman
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Ljude izvan tog kruga tretiramo kao podljude,
16:21
and can be exploited with impunity.
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koji se mogu iskorištavati bez posljedica. Ali tijekom povijesti,
16:23
But, over history, the circle has expanded.
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krug se širio. U povijesnim zapisima je vidljivo
16:27
One can see, in historical record,
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16:29
it expanding from the village, to the clan, to the tribe, to the nation,
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njegovo širenje od sela na klan, pa na pleme,
16:33
to other races, to both sexes and, in Singer's own arguments,
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na naciju, na druge rase, na oba spola,
a prema Singeru trebali bi ga proširiti i na
16:37
something that we should extend to other sentient species.
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druge svjesne vrste. Pitanje je,
16:40
So the question is:
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If this has happened, what has powered that expansion?
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ako je do toga došlo, što je potaklo to širenje?
16:46
And there are a number of possibilities,
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Postoji niz mogućnosti. Proširenje krugova
16:47
such as increasing circles of reciprocity
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reciprociteta u smislu koji zagovara Robert Wright.
16:50
in the sense that Robert Wright argues for.
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16:53
The logic of the Golden Rule --
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Logika zlatnog pravila: što više razmišljate o drugim ljudima
16:55
the more you think about and interact with other people,
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i dolazite u susret s njima, to više shvaćate da je neodrživo
16:59
the more you realize that it is untenable to privilege your interests over theirs,
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davati prednost vlastitim interesima nad njihovima,
17:06
at least not if you want them to listen to you.
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barem ako želite da vas slušaju. Ne možete reći
17:08
You can't say that my interests are special compared to yours
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kako su moji interesi posebni u usporedbi s tvojim
17:12
any more than you can say
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kao što ne možete reći ni da je određeno mjesto
17:13
the particular spot that I'm standing on is a unique part of the universe
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na kojem stojite jedinstveno u svemiru
17:17
because I happen to be standing on it that very minute.
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jer se slučajno nalazite na njemu u tom trenutku.
17:21
It may also be powered by cosmopolitanism, by histories
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Širenje je mogao potaći i kozmopolitizam: putem historiografija,
17:25
and journalism and memoirs and realistic fiction and travel and literacy,
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novinarstva, memoara, realističke beletristike, putovanja
i literaturu, koji su vam omogućili da projicirate sebe na živote
17:30
which allows you to project yourself into the lives of other people
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drugih koje ste možda prije smatrali podljudima,
17:34
that formerly you may have treated as subhuman,
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17:37
and also to realize the accidental contingency of your own station in life,
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te da shvatite slučajnost svoje životne situacije,
osjećaj "da nisam bio ovakve sreće, to sam mogao biti ja."
17:42
the sense that "There but for fortune go I."
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17:45
Whatever its causes,
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Koji god bili uzroci, pad razine nasilja
17:47
the decline of violence, I think, has profound implications.
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ima značajne posljedice. Trebali bi se zapitati ne samo "Zašto
17:51
It should force us to ask not just, "Why is there war?"
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postoji rat?" nego i "Zašto postoji mir?" Ne samo
17:54
but also, "Why is there peace?"
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17:57
Not just, "What are we doing wrong?"
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"Što činimo krivo?" nego i "Što smo činili ispravno?"
17:59
but also, "What have we been doing right?"
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18:01
Because we have been doing something right,
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Jer nešto jesmo činili ispravno,
18:03
and it sure would be good to find out what it is.
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i svakako bi bilo dobro znati što.
18:06
Thank you very much.
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Puno vam hvala.
18:07
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
18:17
Chris Anderson: I loved that talk.
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Chris Anderson: Uživao sam u izlaganju. Smatram da bi mnogi ovdje rekli
18:20
I think a lot of people here in the room would say
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18:22
that that expansion you were talking about,
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da je proširenje o kojemu ste govorili,
18:25
that Peter Singer talks about,
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o kojemu govori i Singer, također poticano samom tehnologijom,
18:27
is also driven just by technology, by greater visibility of the other
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većom vidljivosti drugih i osjećajem da svijet
18:30
and the sense that the world is therefore getting smaller.
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postaje manji. Mislim, ima li nešto i u tome?
18:33
I mean, is that also a grain of truth?
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18:35
Steven Pinker: Very much.
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Steven Pinker: Svakako. To bi se uklopilo u Wrightovu teoriju,
18:37
It would fit both in Wright's theory,
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that it allows us to enjoy the benefits of cooperation
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jer nam omogućuje uživati dobrobiti surađivanja
18:44
over larger and larger circles.
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u sve većim i većim krugovima. Ali mislim i da nam pomaže
18:46
But also, I think it helps us imagine what it's like to be someone else.
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zamisliti kako je biti netko drugi. Mislim da kada čitate
18:51
I think when you read of these horrific tortures
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o stravičnim mučenjima koja su bila uobičajena u srednjem vijeku mislite,
18:53
that were common in the Middle Ages,
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you think, "How could they possibly have done it,
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kako li su to uopće mogli činiti,
18:57
how could they not have empathized with the person
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kako nisu osjećali empatiju prema osobi
19:00
that they're disemboweling?"
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kojoj su vadili utrobu? Ali očito,
19:01
But clearly, as far as they're concerned, this is just an alien being
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što se njih ticalo, to je tek jedno strano biće
19:06
that does not have feelings akin to their own.
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koje nema osjećaje poput njihovih. Smatram da sve
19:08
Anything, I think, that makes it easier
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što olakšava zamisliti zamjenu mjesta
19:10
to imagine trading places with someone else
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means that it increases your moral consideration
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s nekim drugim istovremeno povećava obzirnost
19:15
to that other person.
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prema toj drugoj osobi.
19:16
CA: I'd love every news media owner to hear that talk
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CA: Pa Steve, volio bih da svi vlasnici medija čuju ovo izlaganje
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at some point, it's so important.
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tijekom sljedeće godine. Mislim da je stvarno bitno. Puno vam hvala.
19:21
CA: Thank you. SP: My pleasure.
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SP: Bilo mi je zadovoljstvo.
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