The pattern behind self-deception | Michael Shermer

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Prevoditelj: Stipe Drmić Recezent: Ivan Majstorovic
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So since I was here last in '06,
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Od kada sam zadnji puta bio ovdje, 2006.g.,
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we discovered that global climate change
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otkrili smo da su globalne klimatske promjene
00:21
is turning out to be a pretty serious issue,
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ispale prilično ozbiljni problem.
00:23
so we covered that fairly extensively
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Tako da smo dosta pisali o tome
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in Skeptic magazine.
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u časopisu Skeptic.
00:27
We investigate all kinds
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Istraživali smo razne vrste
00:29
of scientific and quasi-scientific controversies,
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znanstvenih i kvazi-znanstvenih kontroverzi.
00:32
but it turns out we don't have to worry about any of this
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Ali ispalo je da se ne trebamo zabrinjavati zbog nijedne od njih
00:34
because the world's going to end in 2012.
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jer će smak svijeta biti 2012.
00:36
Another update:
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Još jedno podsjećanje:
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You will recall I introduced you guys
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Sjetit ćete se da sam vas upoznao
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to the Quadro Tracker.
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s Quadro tragačem.
00:42
It's like a water dowsing device.
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To je poput rašlji za otkrivanje vode.
00:44
It's just a hollow piece of plastic with an antenna that swivels around.
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To je samo šuplji komad plastike s antenom koja se okreće oko svoje osi.
00:47
And you walk around, and it points to things.
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I šetate se uokolo, i ona pokazuje na stvari.
00:49
Like if you're looking for marijuana in students' lockers,
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Na primjer, ako tražite marihuanu u studentskim ormarićima,
00:52
it'll point right to somebody.
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pokazat će ravno na nekoga.
00:54
Oh, sorry. (Laughter)
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Oh, ispričavam se.
00:56
This particular one that was given to me
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Baš ovaj koji su mi dali
00:58
finds golf balls,
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pronalazi golf loptice
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especially if you're at a golf course
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naročito ako ste na golf terenu
01:02
and you check under enough bushes.
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i provjeravate ispod dovoljno grmlja.
01:05
Well, under the category of "What's the harm of silly stuff like this?"
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Pa, u kategoriji "Koja je šteta od ovakve glupe stvari"
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this device, the ADE 651,
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ova sprava, ADE 651,
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was sold to the Iraqi government
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je prodana iračkoj vladi
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for 40,000 dollars apiece.
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za 40,000 dolara po komadu
01:16
It's just like this one, completely worthless,
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ona je poput ove ovdje, potpuno beskorisna,
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in which it allegedly worked by "electrostatic
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radi navodno pomoću "privlačenja
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magnetic ion attraction,"
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magnetiziranih iona"
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which translates to
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što se prevodi kao
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"pseudoscientific baloney" -- would be the nice word --
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"pseudoznanstvena glupost"--što bi bila dobra riječ--
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in which you string together a bunch of words that sound good,
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u kojoj nižete zajedno hrpu riječi koje dobro zvuče,
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but it does absolutely nothing.
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ali ne radi apsolutno ništa.
01:33
In this case, at trespass points,
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U ovom slučaju, na kontrolnim točkama,
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allowing people to go through
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dopuštajući ljudima da prođu
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because your little tracker device said they were okay,
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jer je vaša mala sprava za pretraživanje rekla da je sve u redu,
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actually cost lives.
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zapravo ugrožava živote.
01:44
So there is a danger to pseudoscience,
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Tako da postoji opasnost od pseudoznanosti,
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in believing in this sort of thing.
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u vjerovanju u takve vrste stvari.
01:49
So what I want to talk about today is belief.
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Tako da ono o čemu želim pričati danas je vjerovanje.
01:52
I want to believe,
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Želim vjerovati,
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and you do too.
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a i vi također.
01:56
And in fact, I think my thesis here is that
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I u stvari, mislim da je moja teza ovdje da je
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belief is the natural state of things.
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vjerovanje prirodno stanje stvari.
02:00
It is the default option. We just believe.
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Ovo je zadana opcija. Mi jednostavno vjerujemo.
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We believe all sorts of things.
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Vjerujemo u različite stvari.
02:04
Belief is natural;
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Vjerovanje je prirodno.
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disbelief, skepticism, science, is not natural.
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Manjak vjerovanja, skeptičnost, znanost, nisu prirodni.
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It's more difficult.
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To je puno teže.
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It's uncomfortable to not believe things.
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neugodno je nevjerovati u stvari.
02:12
So like Fox Mulder on "X-Files,"
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Pa poput Fox Muldera u "Dosjeima X"
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who wants to believe in UFOs? Well, we all do,
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tko želi vjerovati u NLO-e? Pa, mi svi to radimo.
02:18
and the reason for that is because
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I razlog za to je zato
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we have a belief engine in our brains.
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što imamo motor za vjerovanje u našem mozgu.
02:23
Essentially, we are pattern-seeking primates.
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U osnovi, mi smo primati koji tragaju za uzorcima.
02:26
We connect the dots: A is connected to B; B is connected to C.
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Povezujemo točkice: A je povezano s B, B je povezano s C.
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And sometimes A really is connected to B,
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I ponekad je A stvarno povezano s B:
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and that's called association learning.
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I to se zove asocijativno učenje.
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We find patterns, we make those connections,
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Pronalazimo uzorke, povezujemo ih,
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whether it's Pavlov's dog here
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Bilo da je Pavlovljev pas ovdje
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associating the sound of the bell with the food,
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koji povezuje zvuk zvona s hranom,
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and then he salivates to the sound of the bell,
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i tada slini na zvuk zvona,
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or whether it's a Skinnerian rat,
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ili bilo da je riječ o Skinnerovom štakoru,
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in which he's having an association
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koji ima asocijacije
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between his behavior and a reward for it,
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između svog ponašanja i nagrade za to,
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and therefore he repeats the behavior.
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i stoga ponavlja svoje ponašanje.
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In fact, what Skinner discovered
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U stvari, ono što je Skinner otkrio
02:54
is that, if you put a pigeon in a box like this,
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je to, da ako stavite goluba u kutiju poput ove,
02:57
and he has to press one of these two keys,
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i on mora pritisnuti jednu od ove dvije tipke,
02:59
and he tries to figure out what the pattern is,
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i trudi se shvatiti koji je uzorak,
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and you give him a little reward in the hopper box there --
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i date mu malu nagradu u kutiji ovdje.
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if you just randomly assign rewards
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Ako nasumično odredite nagrade,
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such that there is no pattern,
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tako da nema uzorka,
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they will figure out any kind of pattern.
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naći će bilo kakav uzorak.
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And whatever they were doing just before they got the reward,
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I što god radili prije nego što su dobili nagradu,
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they repeat that particular pattern.
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ponavljat će upravo taj uzorak.
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Sometimes it was even spinning around twice counterclockwise,
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Ponekad je to čak i dvostruko okretanje suprotno od kazaljke na satu,
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once clockwise and peck the key twice.
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jedno u smjeru kazaljke na satu i kljucanje tipke dvaput.
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And that's called superstition,
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I to se zove praznovjerje.
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and that, I'm afraid,
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I to, bojim se,
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we will always have with us.
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ćemo uvijek imati u nama.
03:26
I call this process "patternicity" --
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Zovem ovaj proces "uzorkovanje",
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that is, the tendency to find meaningful patterns
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a to je, tendencija pronalaženju smislenih uzoraka
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in both meaningful and meaningless noise.
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i u smislenom i besmislenom šumu.
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When we do this process, we make two types of errors.
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Kada smo u ovom procesu, činimo dva tipa pogrešaka.
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A Type I error, or false positive,
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Tip I pogreška, ili lažno pozitivna,
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is believing a pattern is real
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je vjerovanje da je uzorak stvaran
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when it's not.
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kad nije.
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Our second type of error is a false negative.
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Naš drugi tip pogreške je lažno negativni.
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A Type II error is not believing
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Tip II pogreška je nevjerovanje
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a pattern is real when it is.
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da je uzorak stvaran kad je.
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So let's do a thought experiment.
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Napravimo misaoni pokus.
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You are a hominid three million years ago
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Vi ste hominid prije tri milijuna godina
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walking on the plains of Africa.
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šetate visoravnima Afrike.
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Your name is Lucy, okay?
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Ime vam je Lucy, u redu?
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And you hear a rustle in the grass.
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I čujete šuškanje u travi.
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Is it a dangerous predator,
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Da li je to opasni predator,
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or is it just the wind?
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ili je to samo vjetar?
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Your next decision could be the most important one of your life.
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Vaša slijedeća odluka bi mogla biti najvažnija u vašem životu.
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Well, if you think that the rustle in the grass is a dangerous predator
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Ako mislite da je šuškanje u travi opasan predator
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and it turns out it's just the wind,
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a ispadne da je to samo vjetar,
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you've made an error in cognition,
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počinili ste pogrešku u mišljenju,
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made a Type I error, false positive.
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pogrešku tipa I, lažno pozitivnu.
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But no harm. You just move away.
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Ali nema štete. Samo odete dalje.
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You're more cautious. You're more vigilant.
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Oprezniji ste. Pažljiviji ste.
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On the other hand, if you believe that the rustle in the grass is just the wind,
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S druge strane, ako vjerujete da je šuškanje u travi samo vjetar,
04:22
and it turns out it's a dangerous predator,
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a ispadne da je to opasni predator,
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you're lunch.
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vi ste ručak.
04:27
You've just won a Darwin award.
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Upravo ste osvojili Darwinovu nagradu.
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You've been taken out of the gene pool.
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Izbačeni ste iz genskog potencijala.
04:31
Now the problem here is that
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Ovdje je problem u tome da
04:33
patternicities will occur whenever the cost
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uzorkovanja će se pojaviti kad god je cijena
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of making a Type I error
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činjenja pogreške tipa I
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is less than the cost of making a Type II error.
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manja od cijene činjenja pogreške tipa II.
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This is the only equation in the talk by the way.
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Ovo je, usput, jedina jednadžba u predavanju.
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We have a pattern detection problem
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Imamo problem u otkrivanju uzoraka
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that is assessing the difference between a Type I and a Type II error
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to jest ocjenjivanje razlike između pogreške tipa jedan i tipa dva
04:46
is highly problematic,
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je veoma problematično,
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especially in split-second, life-and-death situations.
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pogotovo u djeliću sekunde, situacijama za život ili smrt .
04:51
So the default position
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Tako da je početna postavka
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is just: Believe all patterns are real --
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zapravo "vjerovanje da su svi uzorci stvarni".
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All rustles in the grass are dangerous predators
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"Sva šuškanja u travi su opasni predatori
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and not just the wind.
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a ne samo vjetar".
05:00
And so I think that we evolved ...
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Mislim da smo evoluirali...
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there was a natural selection for the propensity for our belief engines,
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postojala je prirodna selekcija sklonosti naših motora za vjerovanje,
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our pattern-seeking brain processes,
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naših procesa u mozgu za traganje za uzorkom,
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to always find meaningful patterns
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da se uvijek nađu smisleni uzorci
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and infuse them with these sort of
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i ubaciti ih skupa s ovom vrstom
05:11
predatory or intentional agencies that I'll come back to.
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predatorskog ili namjernog djelovanja na koja ću se vratiti.
05:14
So for example, what do you see here?
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Na primjer, što vidite ovdje?
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It's a horse head, that's right.
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To je konjska glava, tako je.
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It looks like a horse. It must be a horse.
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Izgleda kao konjska glava. Mora to biti konj.
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That's a pattern.
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To je uzorak.
05:22
And is it really a horse?
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Ali da li je to zaista konj?
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Or is it more like a frog?
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Ili više sliči na žabu?
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See, our pattern detection device,
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Vidite, naša sprava za otkrivanje uzoraka,
05:29
which appears to be located in the anterior cingulate cortex --
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koja je izgleda smještena u prednjoj cingulatnoj moždanoj kori--
05:32
it's our little detection device there --
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ta naša mala sprava za otkrivanje tamo --
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can be easily fooled, and this is the problem.
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može se lako zabuniti, i to je problem.
05:37
For example, what do you see here?
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Na primjer, što vidite ovdje?
05:39
Yes, of course, it's a cow.
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Da, naravno. To je krava.
05:42
Once I prime the brain -- it's called cognitive priming --
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Jednom kad pripremim mozak--to se zove kognitivno pripremanje--
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once I prime the brain to see it,
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jednom kad pripremim mozak da to vidi,
05:47
it pops back out again even without the pattern that I've imposed on it.
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ponovno će iskočiti čak i bez uzorka kojeg sam primijenio na to.
05:50
And what do you see here?
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A što vidite ovdje?
05:52
Some people see a Dalmatian dog.
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Neki ljudi vide psa dalmatinera.
05:54
Yes, there it is. And there's the prime.
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Da, evo ga. I to je priprema.
05:56
So when I go back without the prime,
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Tako da kad se vratim bez pripreme,
05:58
your brain already has the model
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vaš mozak već ima model
06:00
so you can see it again.
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tako da to možete ponovno vidjeti.
06:02
What do you see here?
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Što vidite ovdje?
06:05
Planet Saturn. Yes, that's good.
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Planetu Saturn. Da, to je dobro.
06:07
How about here?
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A ovdje?
06:10
Just shout out anything you see.
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Samo viknite bilo što što vidite.
06:14
That's a good audience, Chris.
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To je dobra publika, Chris.
06:16
Because there's nothing in this. Well, allegedly there's nothing.
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Jer nema ničega u ovome. Zapravo, navodno nema ničega.
06:19
This is an experiment done by Jennifer Whitson
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To je pokus kojeg je napravila Jennifer Whitson
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at U.T. Austin
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na teksaškom sveučilištu u Austinu
06:24
on corporate environments
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u zajedničkom okruženju
06:26
and whether feelings of uncertainty and out of control
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i da li osjećaji nesigurnosti i gubitka kontrole
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makes people see illusory patterns.
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utječu na ljude da vide iluzorne uzorke.
06:31
That is, almost everybody sees the planet Saturn.
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A to je, skoro svi vide planet Saturn.
06:34
People that are put in a condition of feeling out of control
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Ljudi koje dovedete u stanje ili osjećaj gubitka kontrole
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are more likely to see something in this,
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će prije vidjeti nešto u ovome,
06:39
which is allegedly patternless.
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što je navodno bez uzorka.
06:42
In other words, the propensity to find these patterns
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Drugim riječima, sklonost pronalasku uzoraka
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goes up when there's a lack of control.
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raste kad dolazi do gubitka kontrole.
06:48
For example, baseball players are notoriously superstitious
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na primjer, igrači bejzbola su nepopravljivo praznovjerni
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when they're batting,
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kad udaraju palicom,
06:53
but not so much when they're fielding.
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ali ne toliko kao kad su u polju igrališta.
06:55
Because fielders are successful
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Zato što su igrači u polju uspješni
06:57
90 to 95 percent of the time.
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90 do 95 posto vremena.
06:59
The best batters fail seven out of 10 times.
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Najbolji udarači promaše sedam od deset puta.
07:02
So their superstitions, their patternicities,
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Tako da su njihova praznovjerja, njihova uzorkovanja,
07:04
are all associated with feelings of lack of control
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sva povezana s osjećajem manjka kontrole
07:07
and so forth.
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i tako dalje.
07:10
What do you see in this particular one here, in this field?
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Što vidite baš u ovoj ovdje, na ovom igralištu?
07:13
Anybody see an object there?
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Vidi li netko predmet?
07:15
There actually is something here,
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Tamo zapravo nešto ima,
07:17
but it's degraded.
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ali je izblijedilo.
07:19
While you're thinking about that,
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Dok vi razmišljate o tome,
07:21
this was an experiment done by Susan Blackmore,
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to je bio pokus kojeg je napravila Susan Blackmore,
07:23
a psychologist in England,
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psihologinja u Engleskoj,
07:25
who showed subjects this degraded image
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koja je pokazala ispitanicima ovu izblijeđenu sliku
07:27
and then ran a correlation between
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a tada je napravila usporedbu između
07:29
their scores on an ESP test:
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njihovih bodova na ESP testu,
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How much did they believe in the paranormal,
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koliko vjeruju u paranormalno,
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supernatural, angels and so forth.
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natprirodno, anđele i tako dalje.
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And those who scored high on the ESP scale,
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i oni koji su postigli veći rezultat na ESP ljestvici,
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tended to not only see
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naginjali su, ne samo viđenju
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more patterns in the degraded images
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više uzoraka u izblijedjelim slikama,
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but incorrect patterns.
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nego i netočnim uzorcima.
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Here is what you show subjects.
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Ovdje je ono što se pokazuje ispitanicima.
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The fish is degraded 20 percent, 50 percent
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Riba je izblijedila 20 posto, 50 posto
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and then the one I showed you,
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i onda ona koju sam vam pokazao,
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70 percent.
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70 posto.
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A similar experiment was done by another [Swiss] psychologist
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Sličan pokus je napravio jedan drugi britanski pisholog
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named Peter Brugger,
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koji se zove Peter Brugger,
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who found significantly more meaningful patterns
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koji je našao da se značajno više smislenih uzoraka
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were perceived on the right hemisphere,
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percipira u desnoj hemisferi,
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via the left visual field, than the left hemisphere.
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kroz lijevo vidno polje, a zatim u lijevu hemisferu.
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So if you present subjects the images such
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Tako da ako pokazujete ispitanicima takve slike
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that it's going to end up on the right hemisphere instead of the left,
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koje će završiti u desnoj hemisferi umjesto u lijevoj,
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then they're more likely to see patterns
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tada će češće vidjeti uzorke
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than if you put it on the left hemisphere.
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nego da ih stavite u lijevu hemisferu.
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Our right hemisphere appears to be
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Izgleda da se u našoj desnoj hemisferi
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where a lot of this patternicity occurs.
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javlja većina ovih uzoraka.
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So what we're trying to do is bore into the brain
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Ono što mi pokušavamo je prodrijeti u mozak
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to see where all this happens.
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i vidjeti gdje se sve ovo događa.
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Brugger and his colleague, Christine Mohr,
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Brugger i njegova kolegica, Christine Mohr,
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gave subjects L-DOPA.
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su dali ispitanicima L-DOPU.
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L-DOPA's a drug, as you know, given for treating Parkinson's disease,
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L-DOPA je lijek, kao što znate, koristi se u liječenju Parkinsonove bolesti,
08:31
which is related to a decrease in dopamine.
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koja je povezana s manjkom dopamina.
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L-DOPA increases dopamine.
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L-DOPA podiže dopamin.
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An increase of dopamine caused
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A porast dopamina utječe
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subjects to see more patterns
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da ispitanici vide više uzoraka
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than those that did not receive the dopamine.
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nego oni koji nisu primili dopamin.
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So dopamine appears to be the drug
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Dopamin je, čini se, lijek
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associated with patternicity.
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povezan s uzorkovanjem.
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In fact, neuroleptic drugs
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U stvari, neuroleptični lijekovi
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that are used to eliminate psychotic behavior,
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koji se koriste da eliminiraju psihotično ponašanje,
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things like paranoia, delusions
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stvari poput paranoje, sumanutosti
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and hallucinations,
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i halucinacija,
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these are patternicities.
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a ovo su uzorkovanja.
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They're incorrect patterns. They're false positives. They're Type I errors.
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to su netočni uzorci. Oni su lažno pozitivni. To su greške tipa jedan.
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And if you give them drugs
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I ako im date lijekove
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that are dopamine antagonists,
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koji su antagonisti dopamina,
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they go away.
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nema ih više.
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That is, you decrease the amount of dopamine,
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To jest, ako smanjite količinu dopamina,
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and their tendency to see
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i njihova tendencija da vide
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patterns like that decreases.
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uzorke slično se smanjuje.
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On the other hand, amphetamines like cocaine
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U drugu ruku, amfetamini poput kokaina,
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are dopamine agonists.
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su dopaminski agonisti.
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They increase the amount of dopamine.
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Oni povećavaju količinu dopamina.
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So you're more likely to feel in a euphoric state,
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Tako da ćete najvjerojatnije osjećati euforiju,
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creativity, find more patterns.
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kreativnost i naći više uzoraka.
09:23
In fact, I saw Robin Williams recently
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U stvari, nedavno sam vidio Robin Williamsa
09:25
talk about how he thought he was much funnier
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pričali smo o tome kako je bio više smiješan
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when he was doing cocaine, when he had that issue, than now.
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kad je bio na kokainu, dok je imao taj problem, nego sad.
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So perhaps more dopamine
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Možda je više dopamina
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is related to more creativity.
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povezano s više kreativnosti.
09:34
Dopamine, I think, changes
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Dopamin, ja mislim, mijenja
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our signal-to-noise ratio.
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naš omjer signala i šuma.
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That is, how accurate we are
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To jest koliko smo precizni
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in finding patterns.
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u pronalaženju uzoraka.
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If it's too low, you're more likely to make too many Type II errors.
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Ako je omjer prenizak, vjerojatno činite previše pogrešaka tipa dva.
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You miss the real patterns. You don't want to be too skeptical.
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ne vidite stvarne uzorke. Ne želite biti previše skeptični.
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If you're too skeptical, you'll miss the really interesting good ideas.
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Ako ste preskeptični, nećete vidjeti zaista zanimljive dobre ideje.
09:51
Just right, you're creative, and yet you don't fall for too much baloney.
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Zapravo ste kreativni, a opet ne padate na previše gluposti.
09:54
Too high and maybe you see patterns everywhere.
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Previše visok omjer i možda vidite uzorke posvuda.
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Every time somebody looks at you, you think people are staring at you.
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Svaki put kad vas netko pogleda, vi mislite da netko bulji u vas.
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You think people are talking about you.
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Mislite da ljudi pričaju o vama.
10:02
And if you go too far on that, that's just simply
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I ako odete predaleko u tome, to se jednostavno
10:04
labeled as madness.
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zove ludilo.
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It's a distinction perhaps we might make
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To je razlika koju možda možemo napraviti
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between two Nobel laureates, Richard Feynman
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između dva dobitnika Nobelove nagrade, Richarda Feynmana
10:10
and John Nash.
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i John Nasha.
10:12
One sees maybe just the right number
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Jedan je vidio točno onoliko
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of patterns to win a Nobel Prize.
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uzoraka da osvoji Nobelovu nagradu.
10:16
The other one also, but maybe too many patterns.
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I drugi također, ali možda previše uzoraka.
10:18
And we then call that schizophrenia.
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I tada to zovemo shizofrenija.
10:21
So the signal-to-noise ratio then presents us with a pattern-detection problem.
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Tako da nam omjer signala i šuma pokazuje problem detektiranja uzorka.
10:24
And of course you all know exactly
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I naravno svi znate točno
10:26
what this is, right?
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što je ovo, zar ne.
10:28
And what pattern do you see here?
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I koji uzorak ovdje vidite?
10:30
Again, I'm putting your anterior cingulate cortex to the test here,
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Ponovno, stavljam vašu prednju cingulatnu moždanu koru na test ovdje,
10:33
causing you conflicting pattern detections.
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uzrokujući da se borite s detekcijama uzoraka.
10:36
You know, of course, this is Via Uno shoes.
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Znate, naravno, da su ovo Via Uno cipele.
10:38
These are sandals.
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Ovo su sandale.
10:41
Pretty sexy feet, I must say.
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Prilično seksi stopala, moram reći.
10:44
Maybe a little Photoshopped.
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Možda malo fotošopirana.
10:46
And of course, the ambiguous figures
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I naravno, dvosmislene figure
10:48
that seem to flip-flop back and forth.
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koje se čine kao da skaču naprijed i natrag.
10:50
It turns out what you're thinking about a lot
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Ispada da ono o čemu puno razmišljate
10:52
influences what you
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utječe na ono
10:54
tend to see.
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što bi htjeli vidjeti.
10:56
And you see the lamp here, I know.
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I vidite ovdje lampu, znam.
10:58
Because the lights on here.
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Zbog svjetla ovdje.
11:01
Of course, thanks to the environmentalist movement
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Naravno, zahvaljujući ekološkom pokretu
11:03
we're all sensitive to the plight of marine mammals.
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svi smo osjetljivi na položaj morskih sisavaca.
11:06
So what you see in this particular ambiguous figure
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Pa ono što vidite na ovoj, dvosmislenoj slici
11:09
is, of course, the dolphins, right?
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je naravno, dupin.
11:11
You see a dolphin here,
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Vidite dupina ovdje.
11:13
and there's a dolphin,
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I to je dupin.
11:15
and there's a dolphin.
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I to je dupin.
11:17
That's a dolphin tail there, guys.
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Ovo je dupinov rep, dečki.
11:20
(Laughter)
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(smijeh)
11:25
If we can give you conflicting data, again,
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ako vam možemo dati zbunjujuće podatke, opet,
11:28
your ACC is going to be going into hyperdrive.
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vaš ACC će otići u hiperpogon.
11:31
If you look down here, it's fine. If you look up here, then you get conflicting data.
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Ako pogledate ovdje dolje, u redu je. Ako pogledate ovdje gore, tada dobijate zbunjujuće podatke.
11:34
And then we have to flip the image
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I tada trebamo okrenuti sliku
11:36
for you to see that it's a set up.
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da vidite da je to namješteno.
11:40
The impossible crate illusion.
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Nemoguća kutija iluzija.
11:42
It's easy to fool the brain in 2D.
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Lako je prevariti mozak u 2D.
11:44
So you say, "Aw, come on Shermer, anybody can do that
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Tako kažete," Ma hajde Shermer, svatko to može
11:46
in a Psych 101 text with an illusion like that."
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tko zna osnove psihologije".
11:48
Well here's the late, great Jerry Andrus'
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Ovo je pokojni, veliki Jerry Andrus
11:50
"impossible crate" illusion in 3D,
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i njegova iluzija "nemoguće kutije" u 3D,
11:53
in which Jerry is standing inside
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u kojoj Jerry stoji unutar
11:55
the impossible crate.
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nemoguće kutije.
11:57
And he was kind enough to post this
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I bio je dovoljno ljubazan da objavi ovo
11:59
and give us the reveal.
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i podari nam odgovor.
12:01
Of course, camera angle is everything. The photographer is over there,
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Naravno, sve ovisi o kutu snimanja. Fotograf je ovdje preko.
12:04
and this board appears to overlap with this one, and this one with that one, and so on.
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I ova daska se čini da se preklapa s ovom, a ova ovdje s ovom drugom, i tako dalje.
12:07
But even when I take it away,
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Ali i kad ih odnesem,
12:09
the illusion is so powerful because of how are brains are wired
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iluzija je tako moćna i pokazuje kako su naši umovi ožičeni
12:11
to find those certain kinds of patterns.
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da nađu stanovite vrste uzorka.
12:14
This is a fairly new one
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Ovo je jedan novi
12:16
that throws us off because of the conflicting patterns
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koji nas zapanjuje zbog suprostavljenih uzoraka
12:18
of comparing this angle with that angle.
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kad uspoređujemo ovaj kut s ovim.
12:21
In fact, it's the exact same picture side by side.
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U stvari, to je točno ista slika jedna pored druge.
12:24
So what you're doing is comparing that angle
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Ono što radite je da uspoređujete ovaj kut
12:26
instead of with this one, but with that one.
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umjesto s ovim drugim.
12:28
And so your brain is fooled.
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I tako je vaš mozak prevaren.
12:30
Yet again, your pattern detection devices are fooled.
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Ponovno, i vaše sprave za otkrivanje uzoraka su prevarene.
12:32
Faces are easy to see
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Lica su jednostavna za vidjeti
12:34
because we have an additional evolved
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zato što imamo dodatni evoluirani
12:36
facial recognition software
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softver za prepoznavanje lica
12:38
in our temporal lobes.
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u našim sljepoočnim režnjevima.
12:41
Here's some faces on the side of a rock.
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Ovdje su neka lica na srani gdje je kamen.
12:44
I'm actually not even sure if this is -- this might be Photoshopped.
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Zapravo nisam siguran za ovo, možda je prepravljeno u Photoshopu.
12:47
But anyway, the point is still made.
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Ali ipak, to je poanta.
12:49
Now which one of these looks odd to you?
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Koji od ovih vam izgleda čudno?
12:51
In a quick reaction, which one looks odd?
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U brzoj reakciji, koji izgleda čudno?
12:53
The one on the left. Okay. So I'll rotate it
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Ovaj s lijeve strane. U redu, sad ću ga zarotirati
12:55
so it'll be the one on the right.
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pa će postati onaj s desne strane.
12:57
And you are correct.
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I u pravu ste.
12:59
A fairly famous illusion -- it was first done with Margaret Thatcher.
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Dosta poznata iluzija--prvi put napravljena s Margaret Thatcher.
13:02
Now, they trade up the politicians every time.
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Sada, samo mijenjaju političare svaki put.
13:04
Well, why is this happening?
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Zašto se ovo događa?
13:06
Well, we know exactly where it happens,
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Znamo točno gdje se to dešava,
13:08
in the temporal lobe, right across, sort of above your ear there,
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u sljepoočnom režnju, točno poprijeko, otprilike iznad vašeg uha ovdje.
13:11
in a little structure called the fusiform gyrus.
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U maloj strukturi koja se zove fuziformna vijuga.
13:14
And there's two types of cells that do this,
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I postoje dva tipa stanica koje ovo čine,
13:16
that record facial features either globally,
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koje bilježe oblike lica ili općenito
13:19
or specifically these large, rapid-firing cells,
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ili specifično ove velike, brzookidajuće stanice,
13:21
first look at the general face.
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prvo pogledaju lice općenito.
13:23
So you recognize Obama immediately.
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Tako prepoznate Obamu odmah.
13:25
And then you notice something quite
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A zatim primjetite nešto stvarno
13:27
a little bit odd about the eyes and the mouth.
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malo čudno s njegovim očima i ustima.
13:29
Especially when they're upside down,
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Naročito kad su naopako.
13:31
you're engaging that general facial recognition software there.
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Uključili ste onaj softver za prepoznavanje lica.
13:34
Now I said back in our little thought experiment,
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Kako sam prije rekao u našem malom misaonom pokusu
13:37
you're a hominid walking on the plains of Africa.
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vi ste hominid koji šeta po visoravnima Afrike.
13:39
Is it just the wind or a dangerous predator?
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Da li je to samo vjetar ili opasni predator?
13:42
What's the difference between those?
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Koja je razlika između toga?
13:44
Well, the wind is inanimate;
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pa, vjetar je neživ;
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the dangerous predator is an intentional agent.
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opasni predator je uzrok s namjerom.
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And I call this process agenticity.
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I ovaj proces nazivam uzrokovanost.
13:50
That is the tendency to infuse patterns
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To je tendencija da se uzorcima dade
13:52
with meaning, intention and agency,
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smisao, namjera i učinak,
13:54
often invisible beings from the top down.
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često nevidljiva bića od vrha do dna.
13:57
This is an idea that we got
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Ovo je ideja do koje smo došli
13:59
from a fellow TEDster here, Dan Dennett,
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od kolege s TED-a, Dan Dennetta,
14:01
who talked about taking the intentional stance.
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koji je pričao o zauzimanju namjernog položaja.
14:03
So it's a type of that expanded to explain, I think, a lot of different things:
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To se kasnije proširilo da objasni, dosta stvari,
14:06
souls, spirits, ghosts, gods, demons, angels,
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duša, duhova, utvara, bogova, demona, anđela,
14:09
aliens, intelligent designers,
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vanzemaljaca, inteligentnih stvoritelja,
14:11
government conspiracists
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vladinih zavjerenika
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and all manner of invisible agents
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i različitih drugih vrsta nevidljivih uzroka
14:15
with power and intention, are believed
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s moći i namjerom, za koje se vjeruje
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to haunt our world and control our lives.
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da progoni naš svijet i kontrolira naše živote.
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I think it's the basis of animism
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Mislim da je ovo osnova animizma
14:21
and polytheism and monotheism.
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i politeizma i monoteizma.
14:24
It's the belief that aliens are somehow
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To je vjerovanje da su vanzemaljci nekako
14:26
more advanced than us, more moral than us,
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napredniji od nas, moralniji od nas,
14:28
and the narratives always are
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i u pričama uvijek
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that they're coming here to save us and rescue us from on high.
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dolaze da nas spase i izbave zbog višeg cilja.
14:33
The intelligent designer's always portrayed
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Inteligentni stvoritelji su uvijek opisivani
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as this super intelligent, moral being
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kao superinteligentna, moralna bića
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that comes down to design life.
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koja su se spustila da stvore život.
14:40
Even the idea that government can rescue us --
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Čak i ideja da nas vlada može spasiti.
14:42
that's no longer the wave of the future,
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To nije više val budućnosti.
14:44
but that is, I think, a type of agenticity:
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Ali to je , mislim vrsta uzrokovanosti,
14:46
projecting somebody up there,
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projiciranje nekoga tamo gore,
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big and powerful, will come rescue us.
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velikog i moćnog koji će nas doći spasiti.
14:50
And this is also, I think, the basis of conspiracy theories.
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I ovo je također po mom mišljenju osnova teorija zavjere.
14:52
There's somebody hiding behind there pulling the strings,
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Netko se skriva iza i povlači sve konce,
14:55
whether it's the Illuminati
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bilo da su to Illuminati
14:57
or the Bilderbergers.
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ili grupa Bilderberg.
14:59
But this is a pattern detection problem, isn't it?
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Ali ovo je problem u detekciji uzoraka, zar ne?
15:01
Some patterns are real and some are not.
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Neki su uzorci stvarni, a neki nisu.
15:03
Was JFK assassinated by a conspiracy or by a lone assassin?
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Da li je J.F. Kennedy ubijen u uroti ili je bio jedan ubojica?
15:06
Well, if you go there -- there's people there on any given day --
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Ako odete tamo-- ima ljudi svakog dana--
15:09
like when I went there, here -- showing me where the different shooters were.
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kao kad sam ja tamo bio-- koji vam pokazuju gdje su bili različiti strijelci.
15:12
My favorite one was he was in the manhole.
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najdraža mi je ona da je bio u šahtu.
15:15
And he popped out at the last second, took that shot.
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I iskočio je u zadnjoj sekundi i opalio.
15:18
But of course, Lincoln was assassinated by a conspiracy.
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Naravno, i Lincoln je ubijen u zavjeri.
15:20
So we can't just uniformly dismiss
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Ne možemo podjednako odbaciti
15:22
all patterns like that.
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sve uzorke poput ovoga.
15:24
Because, let's face it, some patterns are real.
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Jer, budimo iskreni, neki uzorci su stvarni.
15:26
Some conspiracies really are true.
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Neke zavjere su zaista istinite.
15:30
Explains a lot, maybe.
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Objašnjavaju puno, možda.
15:32
And 9/11 has a conspiracy theory. It is a conspiracy.
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I 11.09. je teorija zavjere. To je zavjera.
15:35
We did a whole issue on it.
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Napravili smo od toga cijelu strku.
15:37
Nineteen members of Al Queda plotting to fly planes into buildings
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19 članova Al Queda urotilo se da sruše avione u zgrade
15:39
constitutes a conspiracy.
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tvoreći zavjeru.
15:41
But that's not what the "9/11 truthers" think.
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Ali to nije ono što "zagovornici istine o 11.09." misle.
15:43
They think it was an inside job by the Bush administration.
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Oni misle da je kriva Busheva administracija.
15:46
Well, that's a whole other lecture.
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Ali to je skroz drugo predavanje.
15:48
You know how we know that 9/11
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Znate li kako znamo da 11.09.
15:50
was not orchestrated by the Bush administration?
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nije orkestriran od Busheve administracije?
15:52
Because it worked.
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Zato što je uspjelo.
15:54
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
15:57
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
16:00
So we are natural-born dualists.
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Mi smo rođeni dualisti.
16:02
Our agenticity process comes from
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Naš proces uzrokovanosti dolazi od
16:04
the fact that we can enjoy movies like these.
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činjenice da možemo uživati u filmovima poput ovih.
16:06
Because we can imagine, in essence,
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Zato što možemo maštati, u osnovi,
16:08
continuing on.
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nastavljajući dalje.
16:10
We know that if you stimulate the temporal lobe,
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Znamo da ako stimulirate sljepoočni režanj,
16:12
you can produce a feeling of out-of-body experiences,
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možete imati osjećaj vantjelesnih iskustava,
16:14
near-death experiences,
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iskustava kliničke smrti,
16:16
which you can do by just touching an electrode to the temporal lobe there.
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koje možete imati kad samo dotaknete elektrodom sljepoočni režanj.
16:19
Or you can do it through loss of consciousness,
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Ili to možete s gubitkom svijesti,
16:21
by accelerating in a centrifuge.
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ubrzavajući u centrifugi.
16:23
You get a hypoxia, or a lower oxygen.
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Imate hipoksiju, ili manjak kisika.
16:26
And the brain then senses
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i mozak tada osjeća
16:28
that there's an out-of-body experience.
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da je riječ o vantjelesnom iskustvu.
16:30
You can use -- which I did, went out and did --
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Možete koristiti-- kao što sam i ja--
16:32
Michael Persinger's God Helmet,
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božju kacigu Michaela Persingera,
16:34
that bombards your temporal lobes with electromagnetic waves.
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koja bombardira vaše sljepoočne režnjeve elektromagnetskim valovima.
16:36
And you get a sense of out-of-body experience.
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I imate osjećaj vantjelesnog iskustva.
16:39
So I'm going to end here with a short video clip
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Završit ću s kratkim video isječkom
16:41
that sort of brings all this together.
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koji na neki način sve ovo skupa spaja.
16:43
It's just a minute and a half.
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Traje samo minutu i pol.
16:45
It ties together all this into the power of expectation and the power of belief.
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Veže sve ovo skupa u moć očekivanja i moć vjerovanja.
16:48
Go ahead and roll it.
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Pustite ga.
16:50
Narrator: This is the venue they chose for their fake auditions
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Narator: Ovo je mjesto koje su izabrali za svoje lažne audicije
16:53
for an advert for lip balm.
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za reklamu za sjajilo za usne.
16:55
Woman: We're hoping we can use part of this
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Žena: Nadamo se da možemo upotrijebiti dio ovoga
16:57
in a national commercial, right?
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za nacionalnu reklamu.
16:59
And this is test on some lip balms
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I ovo je test za neka sjajila za usne
17:01
that we have over here.
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koje ovdje imamo.
17:03
And these are our models who are going to help us,
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A ovo su naši modeli koji će nam pomoći,
17:05
Roger and Matt.
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Roger i Matt.
17:07
And we have our own lip balm,
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I imamo naše vlastito sjajilo za usne,
17:09
and we have a leading brand.
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i imamo vodeću marku.
17:11
Would you have any problem
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Hoćete li imati problema
17:13
kissing our models to test it?
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poljubiti naše modele da ga testirate.
17:15
Girl: No.
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Djevojka: Ne.
17:17
Woman: You wouldn't? (Girl: No.) Woman: You'd think that was fine.
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Žena: Nećete? (Djevojka:Ne.) Žena: Mislite da je to u redu.
17:19
Girl: That would be fine. (Woman: Okay.)
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Djevojka: Biti će u redu. (Žena: Dobro.)
17:21
So this is a blind test.
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Ovo je test na slijepo.
17:24
I'm going to ask you to go ahead
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Morat ću vas zamoliti da krenete
17:26
and put a blindfold on.
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i da stavite povez preko očiju.
17:29
Kay, now can you see anything? (Girl: No.)
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Kay, da li vidite išta? (Djevojka: Ne.)
17:32
Pull it so you can't even see down. (Girl: Okay.)
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Navucite povez da ne vidite ni prema dolje. (Djevojka: Dobro.)
17:34
Woman: It's completely blind now, right?
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Žena: Sad ništa ne vidiš, zar ne?
17:36
Girl: Yes. (Woman: Okay.)
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Djevojka: Da. (Žena: Dobro.)
17:38
Now, what I'm going to be looking for in this test
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Ono što ću tražiti u ovom testu
17:41
is how it protects your lips,
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je kako štiti vaše usne,
17:44
the texture, right,
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teskturu,
17:46
and maybe if you can discern any flavor or not.
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i možda ako možete razaznati ima li neki okus.
17:49
Girl: Okay. (Woman: Have you ever done a kissing test before?)
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Djevojka: Dobro. (Žena: Jesi li ikad prije sudjelovala u testu poljupcima?)
17:52
Girl: No.
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Djevojka: Ne.
17:54
Woman: Take a step here.
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Žena: Dođite korak naprijed.
17:56
Okay, now I'm going to ask you to pucker up.
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Dobro, sad želim da napućite usne.
17:58
Pucker up big and lean in just a little bit, okay?
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Napućite se još više i nagnite se malo naprijed, u redu.
18:06
(Music)
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(Glazba)
18:10
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
18:19
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
18:30
Woman: Okay.
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Ok.
18:32
And, Jennifer, how did that feel?
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i Jennifer, kako je to bilo?
18:34
Jennifer: Good.
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Jennifer: Dobro. .
18:36
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
18:43
Girl: Oh my God!
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Djevojka: O moj Bože.
18:45
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
18:50
Michael Shermer: Thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks.
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Michael Shermer: Hvala vam puno. Hvala vam. Hvala.
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