Ali Carr-Chellman: Gaming to re-engage boys in learning

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Prevoditelj: Ivan Stamenković Recezent: Tilen Pigac - EFZG
Dakle, ovdje sam kako bih vam rekla
00:16
So I'm here to tell you that we have a problem with boys,
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da imamo problem s dječacima
00:19
and it's a serious problem with boys.
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i to je ozbiljan problem s dječacima.
Njihova kultura ne funkcionira u školama.
00:22
Their culture isn't working in schools,
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00:24
and I'm going to share with you ways
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I podijelit ću s vama
00:26
that we can think about overcoming that problem.
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načine na koje možemo prevladati taj problem.
00:29
First, I want to start by saying, this is a boy,
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Prvo, želim reći kako je ovo dječak,
00:32
and this is a girl,
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a ovo je djevojčica.
I ovo je vjerojatno stereotip
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and this is probably stereotypically what you think of as a boy and a girl.
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koji imate o izgledu dječaka i djevojčice.
00:38
If I essentialize gender for you today, then you can dismiss what I have to say.
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Ako danas stavim naglasak na spol,
onda možete zanemariti to što imam za reći.
00:42
So I'm not going to do that, I'm not interested in doing that.
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To neću učiniti, to me ne zanima.
Ovo je drugačija vrsta dječaka i drugačija vrsta djevojčice.
00:45
This is a different kind of boy and a different kind of girl.
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00:48
So the point here is that not all boys exist within these rigid boundaries
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Dakle, poanta ovdje je da svi dječaci
ne žive unutar ovih krutih ograničenja
onoga što mi smatramo karakterističnim da su dječaci i djevojčice.
00:53
of what we think of as boys and girls,
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00:55
and not all girls exist within those rigid boundaries
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I sve djevojčice ne postoje unutar onih krutih granica
00:57
of what we think of as girls.
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onoga što mi smatramo karakterističnim za djevojčice.
00:59
But, in fact, most boys tend to be a certain way,
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Ali, zapravo, većina dječaka naginje određenom načinu postojanja,
i većina djevojčica naginje određenom načinu postojanja.
01:03
and most girls tend to be a certain way.
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I poanta je da, za dječake,
01:05
And the point is that, for boys,
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01:07
the way that they exist and the culture that they embrace
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način na koji postoje i kultura koju su prigrlili
01:10
isn't working well in schools now.
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sada ne funkcionira dobro u školama.
Kako to znamo?
01:13
How do we know that?
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01:14
The 100 girls project tells us some really nice statistics.
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Projekt 100 djevojčica
nam prikazuje neke stvarno dobre statistike.
01:19
For example, for every 100 girls that are suspended from school,
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Na primjer: Za svakih 100 djevojčica koje budu suspendirane iz škole,
01:22
there are 250 boys that are suspended from school.
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tu je 250 dječaka koji su suspendirani.
01:25
For every 100 girls who are expelled from school,
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Za svakih 100 djevojčica koje su izbačene iz škole,
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there are 335 boys who are expelled from school.
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tu je 335 dječaka koji su izbačeni iz škole.
01:31
For every 100 girls in special education,
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Za svakih 100 djevojčica koje pohađaju poseban program,
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there are 217 boys.
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tu je 217 dječaka.
01:35
For every 100 girls with a learning disability,
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Za svakih 100 djevojčica koje imaju poteškoće u učenju,
tu je 276 dječaka.
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there are 276 boys.
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01:40
For every 100 girls with an emotional disturbance diagnosed,
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Za svakih 100 djevojčica
s dijagnosticiranim emocionalnim poremećajem,
imamo 324 dječaka.
01:45
we have 324 boys.
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01:46
And by the way, all of these numbers are significantly higher
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I usput, svi ovi brojevi su znatno viši
ako ste crne boje kože,
01:50
if you happen to be black,
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01:51
if you happen to be poor,
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ako ste siromašni,
01:53
if you happen to exist in an overcrowded school.
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ako boravite u prenapučenoj školi.
01:57
And if you are a boy,
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A ako ste dječak,
01:59
you're four times as likely to be diagnosed with ADHD --
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četiri puta ste skloniji
da vam se dijagnosticira ADHD --
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Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.
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poremećaj hiperaktivnosti i deficita pažnje.
02:06
Now there is another side to this.
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Ali postoji druga strana svega ovoga.
02:09
And it is important that we recognize that women still need help in school,
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I važno je prepoznati
da žene i dalje trebaju pomoć u školi,
da su plaće još uvijek znatno niže,
02:15
that salaries are still significantly lower,
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čak i kada se prate vrste poslova,
02:17
even when controlled for job types,
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02:19
and that girls have continued to struggle in math and science for years.
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i da djevojčice i dalje imaju problema
već godinama s matematikom i znanošću.
02:23
That's all true.
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To je sve točno.
02:25
Nothing about that prevents us
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Ništa vezano uz to ne sprječava nas
02:27
from paying attention to the literacy needs
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da obratimo pozornost na potrebe za opismenjivanjem
02:29
of our boys between ages three and 13.
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naših dječaka starih između tri i 13 godina.
Što bismo i trebali.
02:32
And so we should.
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02:33
In fact, what we ought to do is take a page from their playbook,
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Zapravo, ono što bismo trebali činiti je uzeti stranicu iz njihove knjige strategija,
02:36
because the initiatives and programs that have been set in place
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jer inicijativa i programi
koji su pokrenuti
02:40
for women in science and engineering and mathematics are fantastic.
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za žene u znanosti, tehnici i matematici
su fantastični.
02:44
They've done a lot of good for girls in these situations,
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Učinili su puno dobra
za djevojčice u tim situacijama.
02:48
and we ought to be thinking about how we can make that happen for boys too
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I morali bismo razmišljati
kako istu stvar učiniti za dječake
02:52
in their younger years.
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u njihovim ranijim godinama.
02:54
Even in their older years,
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Čak i kada su stariji,
02:56
what we find is that there's still a problem.
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mi i dalje nalazimo probleme.
02:58
When we look at the universities,
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Kada pogledamo sveučilišta,
03:00
60 percent of baccalaureate degrees are going to women now,
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60 posto prvostupnika su žene,
03:03
which is a significant shift.
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što je značajan pomak.
03:05
And in fact, university administrators are a little uncomfortable about the idea
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Zapravo, sveučilišni upravitelji
se teško suočavaju s idejom
03:09
that we may be getting close to 70 percent female population in universities.
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da se bližimo tome da je 70 posto
ženske populacije na sveučilištima.
Ovo sveučilišne upravitelje čini vrlo nervoznima,
03:14
This makes university administrators very nervous,
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03:16
because girls don't want to go to schools that don't have boys.
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jer djevojke ne žele ići u škole u kojima nema momaka.
03:21
And so we're starting to see
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I počinjemo primjećivati osnivanje
03:23
the establishment of men centers and men studies
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muških centara i muških studija
kako bismo promislili kako angažirati muškarce
03:27
to think about how do we engage men in their experiences in the university.
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u njihovim iskustvima na sveučilištu.
Ako pričate sa profesorima, oni bi mogli reći,
03:31
If you talk to faculty, they may say, "Ugh. Yeah, well,
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"O da, pa oni igraju video igre,
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they're playing video games,
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03:35
and they're gambling online all night long,
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i oni se kockaju na internetu čitavu noć,
03:38
and they're playing World of Warcraft,
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i igraju World of Warcraft.
03:40
and that's affecting their academic achievement."
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I to utječe
na njihova akademska postignuća."
03:45
Guess what?
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Znate što?
03:46
Video games are not the cause.
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Video igre nisu uzrok.
03:49
Video games are a symptom.
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Video igre su simptom.
03:51
They were turned off a long time before they got here.
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Bili su isključeni puno prije
nego su došli tu.
03:56
So let's talk about why they got turned off
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Dakle, pričajmo o tome zašto su isključeni
kada su imali između tri i 13 godina.
03:59
when they were between the ages of three and 13.
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Postoje tri razloga zbog kojih vjerujem
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There are three reasons that I believe
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da su dječaci neusklađeni
04:04
that boys are out of sync with the culture of schools today.
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s kulturom današnjih školskih ustanova.
Prva je nulta tolerancija.
04:08
The first is zero tolerance.
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04:10
A kindergarten teacher I know, her son donated all of his toys to her,
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Učiteljica iz vrtića koju poznajem,
njen sin donirao joj je sve igračke,
04:15
and when he did, she had to go through and pull out all the little plastic guns.
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i kada je to učinio, ona je morala pregledati sve igračke
i ukloniti sve male plastične puške.
04:22
You can't have plastic knives and swords and axes
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Ne možemo imati plastične noževe i mačeve i sjekire
04:24
and all that kind of thing in a kindergarten classroom.
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i sve te stvari
u vrtiću.
04:27
What is it that we're afraid that this young man is going to do with this gun?
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Što točno mislimo da će malo dijete učiniti s tom puškom?
04:31
I mean, really.
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Mislim, stvarno.
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But here he stands as testament
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Ali ovdje je on kao svjedok
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to the fact that you can't roughhouse on the playground today.
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činjenice da danas više nema grubosti na igralištu.
04:39
Now I'm not advocating for bullies.
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Ja ne zagovaram nasilnike.
04:41
I'm not suggesting that we need to be allowing guns and knives in the school.
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Ne predlažem
da trebamo dopustiti oružje i noževe u škole.
04:46
But when we say that an Eagle Scout in a high school classroom
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Ali kada kažemo
da izviđač u srednjoškolskoj učionici
koji ima zaključan auto na parkiralištu
04:51
who has a locked parked car in the parking lot and a penknife in it,
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i džepni nožić u njemu
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has to be suspended from school,
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treba biti suspendiran iz škole,
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I think we may have gone a little too far with zero tolerance.
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onda mislim da smo malo pretjerali s nultom tolerancijom.
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Another way that zero tolerance lives itself out
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Još jedan način na koji postoji nulta tolerancija je kroz pisane sastave dječaka.
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is in the writing of boys.
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U puno današnjih učionica
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In a lot of classrooms today,
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you're not allowed to write about anything that's violent.
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nije dozvoljeno pisati o ničemu nasilnom.
Nije dozvoljeno pisati o ničemu
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You're not allowed to write about anything that has to do with video games.
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što je povezano s video igrama -- ove teme su zabranjene.
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These topics are banned.
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Dječaci dođu kući iz škole i kažu:
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Boy comes home from school, and he says,
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"Mrzim pisanje."
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"I hate writing."
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05:15
"Why do you hate writing, son? What's wrong with writing?"
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"Zašto mrziš pisanje sine? Što nije u redu s pisanjem?"
"Moram pisati o onome što mi ona kaže."
05:18
"Now I have to write what she tells me to write."
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05:20
"OK, what is she telling you to write?"
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"Dobro, što ti ona govori da pišeš?"
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"Poems. I have to write poems.
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"Pjesme. Ja moram pisati pjesme.
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And little moments in my life.
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I male trenutke u mom životu.
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I don't want to write that stuff."
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Ne želim o tome pisati."
"U redu. Što želiš pisati? O čemu želiš pisati?"
05:30
"Well, what do you want to write?
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05:31
What do you want to write about?"
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"Želim pisati o video igrama. Želim pisati o napretku u igri.
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"I want to write about video games. I want to write about leveling-up.
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Želim pisati o tom zaista zanimljivom svijetu.
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I want to write about this really interesting world.
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Želim pisati o uraganu koji uđe u našu kuću
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I want to write about a tornado that comes into our house
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i razbije sve prozore
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and blows all the windows out,
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i uništi svo pokućstvo i ubije sve."
05:43
and ruins all the furniture and kills everybody."
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"U redu."
05:45
"All right. OK."
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Kažete to učitelju ili profesoru,
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You tell a teacher that, and they'll ask you, in all seriousness,
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i oni će vas pitati, potpuno ozbiljno,
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"Should we send this child to the psychologist?"
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"Hoćemo li ovo dijete poslati psihologu?"
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And the answer is no, he's just a boy.
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I odgovor je ne, on je samo dječak.
05:57
He's just a little boy.
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On je samo mali dječak.
06:00
It's not OK to write these kinds of things in classrooms today.
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Nije u redu pisati takve stvari
u današnjim učionicama.
Dakle, to je prvi razlog:
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So that's the first reason:
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06:06
Zero tolerance policies and the way they're lived out.
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politika nulte tolerancije i način na koji ih provodimo.
06:08
The next reason that boys' cultures are out of sync with school cultures:
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Sljedeći razlog zašto kultura dječaka nije prilagođena kulturi škola:
manje je muških profesora, učitelja.
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there are fewer male teachers.
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06:13
Anybody who's over 15 doesn't know what this means,
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Svatko tko je stariji od 15 godina ne zna što ovo znači,
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because in the last 10 years,
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jer u posljednjih 10 godina,
06:18
the number of elementary school classroom teachers has been cut in half.
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broj učitelja u osnovnim školama
je smanjen za pola.
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We went from 14 percent to seven percent.
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Od 14 posto
došli smo na samo sedam posto.
06:26
That means that 93 percent of the teachers
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To znači da su 93 posto učitelja
06:28
that our young men get in elementary classrooms are women.
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koje naši mladi muškarci dobiju u osnovnoj školi
žene.
06:32
Now what's the problem with this?
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Zašto je ovo problem?
06:34
Women are great, yep, absolutely.
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Žene su super. Da, apsolutno.
Ali muški uzori za dječake
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But male role models for boys that say it's all right to be smart --
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koji kažu u redu je biti pametan --
imaju očeve, svećenike,
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they've got dads, they've got pastors, they've got Cub Scout leaders,
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vođe izviđača,
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but ultimately, six hours a day, five days a week
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ali na kraju krajeva, šest sati na dan, pet dana tjedno,
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they're spending in a classroom,
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oni provode u učionici.
I većina ovih učionica
06:51
and most of those classrooms are not places where men exist.
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nisu mjesto na kojem postoje muškarci.
06:54
And so they say, I guess this really isn't a place for boys.
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I onda dolaze do zaključka da ovo ipak nije mjesto za dječake.
Ovo je mjesto za djevojčice.
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This is a place for girls.
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I ja nisam jako dobar u ovome,
07:00
And I'm not very good at this,
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07:01
so I guess I'd better go play video games
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pa ću bolje
igrati video igre ili se baviti sportom, ili nešto slično tome,
07:04
or get into sports, or something like that,
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07:06
because I obviously don't belong here.
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jer ja očito ne pripadam ovdje.
07:08
Men don't belong here, that's pretty obvious.
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Muškarci ne pripadaju tu, to je poprilično očito.
07:10
So that may be a very direct way that we see it happen.
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Ovo je jedan od izravnijih načina
gdje vidimo da se to događa.
Ali manje izravno,
07:15
But less directly, the lack of male presence in the culture --
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manjak muške prisutnosti u kulturi --
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you've got a teachers' lounge, and they're having a conversation
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imate zbornicu,
i vodi se razgovor
07:22
about Joey and Johnny who beat each other up on the playground.
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o Joeyu i Johnnyu koji su se potukli na igralištu.
"Što ćemo učiniti s tim dječacima?"
07:27
"What are we going to do with these boys?"
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Odgovor na ovo pitanje mijenja se ovisno o tome tko sjedi oko stola.
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The answer to that question changes
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07:30
depending on who's sitting around that table.
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Ima li muškaraca za tim stolom?
07:32
Are there men around that table?
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Ima li majki koje su odgojile sinove za tim stolom?
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Are there moms who've raised boys around that table?
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Vidjet ćete, razgovor se mjenja
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You'll see, the conversation changes
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07:38
depending upon who's sitting around the table.
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ovisno o tome tko sjedi za stolom.
07:40
Third reason that boys are out of sync with school today:
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Treći razlog zašto dječaci nisu usklađeni s današnjim školama:
07:43
Kindergarten is the old second grade, folks.
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vrtić je stari drugi razred ljudi.
07:46
We have a serious compression of the curriculum happening out there.
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Imamo ozbiljno sažimanje gradiva.
07:50
When you're three, you better be able to write your name legibly,
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Kad imaš tri godine, bolje ti je da znaš čitko napisati svoje ime,
ili ćemo to smatrati zastojem u razvoju.
07:53
or else we'll consider it a developmental delay.
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Kad si u prvom razredu,
07:56
By the time you're in first grade,
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morao bi moći čitati odlomke teksta
07:58
you should be able to read paragraphs of text
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možda sa slikom, možda ne,
08:01
with maybe a picture, maybe not, in a book of maybe 25 to 30 pages.
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u knjizi od 25 ili 30 stranica.
08:04
If you don't,
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Ako to ne možeš, vjerojatno će te smjestiti
08:05
we're probably going to be putting you into a Title I special reading program.
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u program za djecu koja imaju poteškoća sa čitanjem.
I ako učitelje koji se bave tom djecom pitate, reći će vam
08:09
And if you ask Title I teachers, they'll tell you
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da imaju četvoro ili petoro dječaka za svaku djevojčicu koja je u tom programu,
08:11
they've got about four or five boys for every girl that's in their program,
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u prvim razredima.
08:15
in the elementary grades.
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Razlog zašto je ovo problem
08:16
The reason that this is a problem
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08:18
is because the message that boys are getting
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je taj da poruka koju dječaci dobivaju
08:21
is, "You need to do what the teacher asks you to do all the time."
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glasi: "moraš činiti
ono što učiteljica od tebe traži cijelo vrijeme."
08:26
The teacher's salary depends on "No Child Left Behind"
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Plaća učitelja ovisi o
tome da nijedno dijete ne zaostane, i utrkivanju do vrha
08:30
and "Race to the Top" and accountability and testing
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i odgovornosti i testiranju
08:33
and all of this.
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i o svemu ovome.
08:35
So she has to figure out a way to get all these boys
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Učiteljica mora osmisliti način
da svi ovi dječaci prođu gradivo --
08:39
through this curriculum -- and girls.
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i djevojčice.
Sažeto gradivo loše je
08:43
This compressed curriculum is bad for all active kids.
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za svu aktivnu djecu.
08:47
And what happens is,
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I događa se sljedeće,
08:49
she says, "Please, sit down, be quiet, do what you're told,
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ona kaže, "Molim te, sjedni,
budi tiho, čini što ti se kaže, slijedi pravila,
08:54
follow the rules, manage your time, focus, be a girl."
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upravljaj svojim vremenom, usredotoči se,
budi djevojčica."
To je ono što im govori.
09:00
That's what she tells them.
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Indirektno, to im govori.
09:02
Indirectly, that's what she tells them.
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09:04
And so this is a very serious problem.
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Dakle ovo je vrlo ozbiljan problem. Odakle to dolazi?
09:06
Where is it coming from? It's coming from us.
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Dolazi od nas.
09:08
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:11
We want our babies to read when they are six months old.
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Želimo da naša djeca čitaju sa šest mjeseci.
09:14
Have you seen the ads?
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Jeste li vidjeli oglase?
09:16
We want to live in Lake Wobegon where every child is above average ...
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Želimo živjeti na Jezeru Wobegon
gdje je svako dijete iznad prosjeka.
09:21
but what this does to our children is really not healthy.
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Ali što takvi zahtjevi čine našoj djeci zaista nije zdravo.
Nije primjereno razvoju
09:25
It's not developmentally appropriate,
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09:26
and it's particularly bad for boys.
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i posebno je loše za dječake.
Što mi trebamo učiniti?
09:29
So what do we do?
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Trebamo ih sresti tamo gdje se nalaze.
09:31
We need to meet them where they are.
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09:32
We need to put ourselves into boy culture.
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Trebamo se staviti u kulturu dječaka.
09:35
We need to change the mindset of acceptance in boys
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Trebamo promjeniti način
prihvaćanja dječaka u osnovnim školama.
09:40
in elementary schools.
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09:42
More specifically, we can do some very specific things.
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Da preciziramo, možemo učiniti određene stvari.
09:45
We can design better games.
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Možemo dizajnirati bolje igre.
09:47
Most of the educational games that are out there today
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Većina edukacijskih igara koje danas postoje
su u biti kartice za ponavljanje.
09:50
are really flashcards.
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09:51
They're glorified drill and practice.
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One su glorificirana vježba i ponavljanje.
09:53
They don't have the depth, the rich narrative
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Nemaju dubinu, bogatu priču
09:56
that really engaging video games have,
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koju imaju zahtjevne video igre,
koje zanimaju dječake.
09:59
that the boys are really interested in.
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Tako da moramo dizajnirati bolje igre.
10:01
So we need to design better games.
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10:02
We need to talk to teachers and parents and school board members and politicians.
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Moramo razgovarati s učiteljima i roditeljima
i članovima školskih odbora i političarima.
10:06
We need to make sure that people see that we need more men in the classroom.
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Moramo biti sigurni da ljudi vide kako trebamo više muškaraca u učionici.
Moramo pažljivo proučiti naše politike nulte tolerancije.
10:10
We need to look carefully at our zero tolerance policies.
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Imaju li one smisla?
10:13
Do they make sense?
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Moramo razmisliti
10:14
We need to think about how to uncompress this curriculum if we can,
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kako dekomprimirati ovo gradivo ako možemo,
10:18
trying to bring boys back into a space that is comfortable for them.
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vraćajući dječake u prostor
koji je ugodan za njih.
10:22
All of those conversations need to be happening.
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Svi ti razgovori se moraju započeti.
10:24
There are some great examples out there of schools --
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Postoje odlični primjeri
škola --
10:27
the New York Times just talked about a school recently.
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New York Times je nedavno govorio o školi.
10:30
A game designer from the New School
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Dizajner igara iz Nove Škole
10:33
put together a wonderful video gaming school.
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je sastavio predivnu školu s video igrama.
10:36
But it only treats a few kids, and so this isn't very scalable.
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Ali ju pohađa tek nekoliko djece.
Tako da ovo nije prilagodljivo u većim razmjerima.
10:41
We have to change the culture and the feelings
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Moramo promijeniti kulturu i osjećaje
10:43
that politicians and school board members and parents have
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koje imaju političari, članovi školskih odbora i roditelji
vezano uz to kako prihvaćamo i što prihvaćamo
10:48
about the way we accept and what we accept in our schools today.
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danas u našim školama.
10:51
We need to find more money for game design.
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Moramo naći više novca za dizajniranje igara.
10:53
Because good games, really good games, cost money,
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Zato što dobre igre, stvarno dobre igre, koštaju,
I World of Warcraft ima popriličan budžet.
10:56
and World of Warcraft has quite a budget.
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Većina edukacijskih igara ga nema.
10:58
Most of the educational games do not.
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Gdje smo počeli:
11:00
Where we started:
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11:01
my colleagues Mike Petner, Shawn Vashaw, myself,
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moji suradnici -- Mike Petner, Shawn Vashaw i ja --
11:04
we started by trying to look at the teachers' attitudes
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mi smo počeli proučavati stavove drugih učitelja
11:06
and find out how do they really feel about gaming,
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u pokušaju da doznamo što stvarno misle o igrama i igranju,
što oni kažu o tome.
11:09
what do they say about it.
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11:10
And we discovered that they talk about the kids in their school,
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I otkrili smo
da oni razgovaraju o djeci u svojoj školi,
koja pričaju o igrama,
11:15
who talk about gaming, in pretty demeaning ways.
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na poprilično omalovažavajući način.
11:18
They say, "Oh, yeah. They're always talking about that stuff.
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Oni kažu, "O, da. Stalno pričaju o tim stvarima.
Pričaju o svojim malim akcijskim figurama
11:22
They're talking about their little action figures
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i svojim malim postignućima ili značkama za postignuća,
11:24
and their little achievements or merit badges,
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11:26
or whatever it is that they get.
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ili što već oni dobiju.
11:28
And they're always talking about this stuff."
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I oni uvijek govore o tome."
11:30
And they say these things as if it's OK.
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I oni o tome pričaju na ovaj način, kao da je to u redu.
11:32
But if it were your culture, think of how that might feel.
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Ali da je to vaša kultura,
zamislite kako bi se vi osjećali.
11:36
It's very uncomfortable to be on the receiving end
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Zaista je neugodno biti taj o kojem se vode
11:38
of that kind of language.
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takvi razgovori.
Nervozni su u svezi bilo čega
11:41
They're nervous about anything that has anything to do with violence
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što ima bilo kakvu vezu s nasiljem
11:44
because of the zero tolerance policies.
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zbog politika nulte tolerancije.
11:46
They are sure that parents and administrators
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Sigurni su da roditelji i upravitelji nikad neće ništa prihvatiti.
11:48
will never accept anything.
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11:49
So we really need to think about looking at teacher attitudes
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Zato moramo razmisliti o tome da promatramo stavove učitelja
11:52
and finding ways to change the attitudes,
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i pokušaju pronalaženja načina da se ti stavovi promjene
11:55
so that teachers are much more open and accepting of boy cultures
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kako bi učitelji bili otvoreniji
i lakše prihvaćali kulturu dječaka u svojim učionicama.
11:59
in their classrooms.
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12:00
Because, ultimately, if we don't,
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Jer na kraju krajeva, ako to ne budemo činili
12:02
then we're going to have boys who leave elementary school saying,
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imat ćemo dječake koji će napuštati osnovnu školu govoreći,
"Pa, čini mi se da je to bilo samo mjesto za djevojčice;
12:06
"Well I guess that was just a place for girls, it wasn't for me.
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to nije bilo za mene.
12:09
So I've got to do gaming, or I've got to do sports."
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Zato ću se ili baviti sportom ili igrati igre."
12:12
If we change these things, if we pay attention to these things,
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Ako promijenimo ove stvari, ako obratimo pozornost na te stvari,
12:15
and we reengage boys in their learning,
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i ponovno angažiramo dječake u njihovu učenju,
12:17
they will leave the elementary schools saying, "I'm smart."
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oni će napustiti osnovnu školu govoreći: "Ja sam pametan."
Hvala vam.
12:21
Thank you.
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12:22
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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