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譯者: Marssi Draw
審譯者: Coco Shen
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I'm an artist and I cut books.
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我是藝術家,我切割書本。
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This is one of my first book works.
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這是我早期的書作品,
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It's called "Alternate
Route to Knowledge."
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稱為「通往知識的替代道路」。
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I wanted to create a stack of books so
that somebody could come into the gallery
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我想創作很多書,讓大家進藝廊時心想
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and think they're just looking
at a regular stack of books,
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只是來看一堆普通的書,
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but then as they got closer they would
see this rough hole carved into it,
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結果他們靠近一看
卻發現書被挖了粗糙的洞,
然後好奇發生什麼事,思考為什麼,
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and wonder what was happening,
wonder why,
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and think about the material of the book.
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開始想這本書是什麼材料做的。
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So I'm interested in the texture,
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我對質感很有興趣,
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but I'm more interested in the text
and the images that we find within books.
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但我對在書裡找到的圖文更感興趣。
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In most of my work, what I do is I seal
the edges of a book with a thick varnish
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我通常用黏膠密封書緣,
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so it's creating sort of a skin
on the outside of the book
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就像在書上做一層皮膚,
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so it becomes a solid material,
but then the pages inside are still loose,
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書變成硬媒材,但內頁還是鬆的,
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and then I carve
into the surface of the book,
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我挖開書皮,
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and I'm not moving or adding anything.
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不會移動或添加任何東西上去。
00:54
I'm just carving around
whatever I find interesting.
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我只是到處挖我覺得有趣的東西。
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So everything you see
within the finished piece
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所以你在成品裡面看到的
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is exactly where it was
in the book before I began.
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都是書裡原本的東西。
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I think of my work as sort of
a remix, in a way,
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我的作品有點像是再製品,
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because I'm working with
somebody else's material
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因為我用的是別人的媒材,
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in the same way that a D.J. might be
working with somebody else's music.
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跟音樂主持人用同樣的方式
處理別人的音樂。
01:12
This was a book of Raphael paintings,
the Renaissance artist,
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這是拉斐爾的畫冊,
他是文藝復興時期的藝術家,
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and by taking his work
and remixing it, carving into it,
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透過再製、雕刻他的作品,
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I'm sort of making it into something
that's more new and more contemporary.
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我似乎把書做成更新穎、具現代感的東西了。
01:25
I'm thinking also about breaking out
of the box of the traditional book
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我也想打破傳統書本的方形邊界,
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and pushing that linear format,
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推開原本的橫排設定,
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and try to push the structure
of the book itself
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試著推開書原來的結構,
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so that the book can become
fully sculptural.
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就能雕刻整本書。
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I'm using clamps and ropes
and all sorts of materials, weights,
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我用夾鉗、繩子和各種媒材再施重,
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in order to hold things
in place before I varnish
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讓書在上漆前可以黏緊,
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so that I can push the form
before I begin,
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開工前我就能推開構造,
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so that something like this
can become a piece like this,
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因此像這樣的東西
就可以變成這樣的作品,
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which is just made
from a single dictionary.
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這原先是一本字典。
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Or something like this
can become a piece like this.
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或是像這樣的東西,
可以變成這件作品。
02:06
Or something like this,
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或是像這樣的東西,
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which who knows what that's going to be
or why that's in my studio,
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沒人知道會變什麼樣子、
為什麼會在我的工作室,
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will become a piece like this.
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最後會變成這樣一件作品。
02:16
So I think one of the reasons
people are disturbed by destroying books,
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我想書破了有人會心煩是因為
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people don't want to rip books
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大家都不想撕破書,
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and nobody really wants
to throw away a book,
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也沒有人真的想丟書,
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is that we think about books
as living things,
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也因為我們認為書有生命,
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we think about them as a body,
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像它們擁有身體,
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and they're created
to relate to our body, as far as scale,
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書是為了我們存在的
從比例上而言,
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but they also have the potential
to continue to grow
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但書也有成長的潛力,
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and to continue to become new things.
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繼續變成新的東西。
02:35
So books really are alive.
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書真的有生命。
02:38
So I think of the book as a body,
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我把書看作是身體,
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and I think of the book as a technology.
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我把書看作是工藝,
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I think of the book as a tool.
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我把書看作是工具。
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And I also think of the book as a machine.
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我也把書看作是機器。
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I also think of the book as a landscape.
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我也把書看作是地景。
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This is a full set of encyclopedias
that's been connected and sanded together,
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這是整套百科全書被磨平黏貼在一起,
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and as I carve through it,
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我一邊雕刻,
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I'm deciding what I want to choose.
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一邊決定要留什麼下來。
03:03
So with encyclopedias,
I could have chosen anything,
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有了百科全書,我可以選擇任何東西,
03:05
but I specifically chose
images of landscapes.
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但我特別選擇地景的圖片。
03:10
And with the material itself,
I'm using sandpaper
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呼應媒材本身,我用砂紙磨平邊緣,
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and sanding the edges
so not only the images suggest landscape,
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這樣圖片能搭配地景之外,
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but the material itself
suggests a landscape as well.
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媒材本身也變成一座地景。
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So one of the things I do
is when I'm carving through the book,
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我雕刻書的時候
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I'm thinking about images,
but I'm also thinking about text,
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也會思考書裡的圖片和文字,
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and I think about them
in a very similar way,
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我會用非常相似的方式思考,
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because what's interesting
is that when we're reading text,
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因為有趣的是我們閱讀文字,
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when we're reading a book,
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閱讀書本的時候,
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it puts images in our head,
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腦海裡就有了影像,
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so we're sort of filling that piece.
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就像是填補了那本書。
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We're sort of creating images
when we're reading text,
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我們就像是邊讀文字、邊創作影像,
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and when we're looking at an image,
we actually use language
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我們看圖片的時候,其實就使用了語言,
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in order to understand
what we're looking at.
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才能了解我們看的東西。
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So there's sort of
a yin-yang that happens,
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這樣的演變就像太極,
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sort of a flip flop.
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像一體兩面同時存在,
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So I'm creating a piece
that the viewer is completing themselves.
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觀者可以親身參與完整我的作品。
03:57
And I think of my work
as almost an archaeology.
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我的作品幾乎可以說是考古學,
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I'm excavating and I'm trying
to maximize the potential
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我挖掘,試著發揮最大潛能,
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and discover as much as I possibly can
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盡可能鑿取更多
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and exposing it within my own work.
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並在作品中展現。
04:10
But at the same time,
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但同時
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I'm thinking about this idea of erasure,
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我也在思考消除的概念,
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and what's happening now that most
of our information is intangible,
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現在的新聞都看不見實體訊息,
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and this idea of loss,
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而這個失去的概念,
04:21
and this idea that not only is the format
constantly shifting within computers,
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不只是指在電腦中不斷改變的形式,
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but the information itself,
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更是指訊息本身,
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now that we don't have a physical backup,
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現在我們不會有紙本備份,
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has to be constantly updated
in order to not lose it.
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不想失去就要不斷更新。
04:35
And I have several dictionaries
in my own studio,
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我的工作室有幾本字典,
04:38
and I do use a computer every day,
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我也每天用電腦,
如果要查單字,我會用電腦,
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and if I need to look up a word,
I'll go on the computer,
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because I can go directly
and instantly to what I'm looking up.
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因為我可以直接找到答案。
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I think that the book was never really
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我想書本從來就不是
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the right format
for nonlinear information,
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複雜資訊的正確格式,
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which is why we're seeing reference books
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這就是為什麼我們會發現工具書
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becoming the first to be
endangered or extinct.
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變成頭號岌岌可危快絕跡的東西。
05:01
So I don't think that the book
will ever really die.
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所以我不認為書會真的消逝,
05:04
People think that now that we have
digital technology,
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大家認為當一切數位化
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the book is going to die,
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書就會消逝,
05:10
and we are seeing things shifting
and things evolving.
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我們就會看著事物轉變、進化。
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I think that the book will evolve,
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我認為書會進化,
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and just like people said
painting would die
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就像曾有人說繪畫會消逝,
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when photography and printmaking
became everyday materials,
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因為攝影和印刷
觸手可及的年代已來臨,
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but what it really allowed painting to do
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但繪畫反而因此得以
05:25
was it allowed painting
to quit its day job.
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不用每天工作。
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It allowed painting to not have to have
that everyday chore of telling the story,
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繪畫也不必再肩負
每日說故事這樣的雜務,
05:34
and painting became free
and was allowed to tell its own story,
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繪畫變得自由,能訴說自己的故事,
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and that's when we saw Modernism emerge,
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現代主義也因此起源,
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and we saw painting
go into different branches.
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發展出各種不同的流派。
05:41
And I think that's what's
happening with books now,
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我認為書現在的處境就像當時的繪畫,
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now that most of our technology,
most of our information,
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現在我們大部分的技術、資訊,
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most of our personal and cultural
records are in digital form,
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以及私人和文化的記錄都數位化時,
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I think it's really allowing the book
to become something new.
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我認為那反而促使書本發展新樣貌。
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So I think it's a very exciting time
for an artist like me,
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現在對像我這樣的藝術家來說
是讓人興奮的時刻,
05:56
and it's very exciting to see what
will happen with the book in the future.
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預見書本未來的發展也讓人非常興奮。
06:00
Thank you.
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謝謝。
06:01
(Applause)
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