The surprising way groups like ISIS stay in power | Benedetta Berti

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譯者: An Xu 審譯者: Zhiting Chen
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For the past decade,
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在過去的十年裡,
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I've been studying non-state armed groups:
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我一直在研究非政府武裝組織。
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armed organizations like terrorists, insurgents or militias.
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例如恐怖組織、叛亂者,或是民兵組織。
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I document what these groups do when they're not shooting.
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我記錄他們在非戰爭情況中都在做些什麼,
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My goal is to better understand these violent actors
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我的目的是為了更好的理解這些暴力者
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and to study ways to encourage transition from violent engagement
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並且研究如何促使暴力行為
00:32
to nonviolent confrontation.
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轉變為非暴力對抗。
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I work in the field, in the policy world and in the library.
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我在現場、政策層面及圖書館內開展研究。
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Understanding non-state armed groups is key to solving most ongoing conflict,
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因為戰爭的改變, 解決很多現有衝突的關鍵
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because war has changed.
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是理解非國家武裝組織
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It used to be a contest between states.
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曾經,戰爭是國家之間的比賽。
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No longer.
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然而現在不是了。
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It is now a conflict between states and non-state actors.
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如今,戰爭演變成了國家 和非國家組織之間的鬥爭。
00:53
For example, of the 216 peace agreements
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比如,在1975年到2011年之間簽署的
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signed between 1975 and 2011,
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216項和平條約中,
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196 of them were between a state and a non-state actor.
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有196項是有關於 國家與非國家組織之間的矛盾。
01:05
So we need to understand these groups; we need to either engage them
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因此我們需要了解這些組織
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or defeat them in any conflict resolution process that has to be successful.
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通過在衝突解決過程中與他們的溝通 甚至是有效的打敗他們
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So how do we do that?
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那麼,我們要如何做到呢?
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We need to know what makes these organizations tick.
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我們需要知道這些組織為什麼會採取武裝行動
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We know a lot about how they fight, why they fight,
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我們可以了解到他們為何戰鬥、如何戰鬥
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but no one looks at what they're doing when they're not fighting.
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但是沒有人注意到當他們不再戰鬥時, 他們在做些什麼,
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Yet, armed struggle and unarmed politics are related.
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然而,武裝鬥爭和非武裝政治是相互關聯的。
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It is all part of the same organization.
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它們存在於同一個組織中
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We cannot understand these groups, let alone defeat them,
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如果我們不了解全局, 我們將不會了解這些組織
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if we don't have the full picture.
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無法擊敗他們。
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And armed groups today are complex organizations.
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在如今,武裝組織是非常複雜的組織
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Take the Lebanese Hezbollah,
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以黎巴嫩真主黨為例,
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known for its violent confrontation against Israel.
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它以對以色列的暴力抗爭而被大家熟知
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But since its creation in the early 1980s,
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但是,從真主黨在十九世紀八十年代成立以來
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Hezbollah has also set up a political party,
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它也組建了政治集團、
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a social-service network, and a military apparatus.
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社工服務機構和軍事組織。
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Similarly, the Palestinian Hamas,
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再例如,巴勒斯坦的伊斯蘭抵抗運動
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known for its suicide attacks against Israel,
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以自殺式行為對抗以色列而出名,
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also runs the Gaza Strip since 2007.
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同樣從2007年就開始控制加薩地帶。
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So these groups do way more than just shoot.
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因此,這些組織不僅僅進行暴力襲擊,
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They multi-task.
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他們完成多個任務。
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They set up complex communication machines --
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他們建立複雜的媒體設備,
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radio stations, TV channels,
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比如電臺廣播、電視台、
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Internet websites and social media strategies.
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網站和社交媒體策略。
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And up here, you have the ISIS magazine,
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在那裏,你可以讀到ISIS雜誌
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printed in English and published to recruit.
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甚至是紙質英文版本,有利於招募新成員。
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Armed groups also invest in complex fund-raising --
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武裝組織同樣可以投資於 複雜的資金籌集專案,
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not looting, but setting up profitable businesses;
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不再需要以打劫的方式獲取資源, 而是通過創立盈利性質的公司來籌錢,
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for example, construction companies.
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比如,建築公司。
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Now, these activities are keys.
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目前,這些活動纔是這些武裝組織的關鍵
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They allow these groups to increase their strength,
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他們使得武裝組織增強他們的力量
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increase their funds,
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籌集到更多的資金
02:36
to better recruit and to build their brand.
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以便於更好的招募新成員, 並且建立自己的品牌
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Armed groups also do something else:
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同時,他們還做其他的事情,
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they build stronger bonds with the population
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他們通過積极參與社會活動
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by investing in social services.
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促進與大眾的感情,
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They build schools, they run hospitals,
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他們開辦學校、建立醫院、
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they set up vocational-training programs or micro-loan programs.
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開展職業培訓計劃,和小額貸款計劃。
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Hezbollah offers all of these services and more.
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真主黨提供的服務比以上所提到的還要多。
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Armed groups also seek to win the population over
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武裝組織同樣通過 提供通常政府無法提供的服務
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by offering something that the state is not providing:
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來贏取大眾支持,
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safety and security.
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比如安全和保障
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The initial rise of the Taliban in war-torn Afghanistan,
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阿富汗塔利班的最初萌芽
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or even the beginning of the ascent of ISIS,
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和ISIS的起源
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can be understood also by looking at these groups' efforts
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可以基於對這些組織
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to provide security.
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為了提供安保而做出的努力而理解
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Now, unfortunately, in these cases,
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然而,在這些例子中
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the provision of security came at an unbearably high price
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對於人民而言, 為了安全而投靠這些組織的代價
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for the population.
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是非常昂貴
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But in general, providing social services fills a gap,
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但是總體而言, 這些組織提供的社會服務彌補
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a governance gap left by the government,
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政府遺留下的治理缺口,
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and allows these groups to increase their strength
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從而使得這些非武裝組織更加強壯,
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and their power.
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並且不斷的增強他們的實力。
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For example, the 2006 electoral victory of the Palestinian Hamas
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比如, 對於2006年 伊斯蘭抵抗運動的勝利的理解
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cannot be understood without acknowledging the group's social work.
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必須基於該組織所做出的社會服務
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Now, this is a really complex picture,
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現在,情況變得複雜,
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yet in the West, when we look at armed groups,
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然而在西方,當我們提到武裝組織
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we only think of the violent side.
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我們只考慮到了暴力的一面。
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But that's not enough to understand these groups' strength,
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但是若要更好理解這些組織的優勢,
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strategy or long-term vision.
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只考慮暴力方面遠遠不夠。
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These groups are hybrid.
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這些組織是綜合體,
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They rise because they fill a gap left by the government,
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他們之所以立足 是因為他們彌補了政府職能缺失,
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and they emerge to be both armed and political,
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他們兼併成為武裝政治力量,
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engage in violent struggle and provide governance.
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在暴力鬥爭和治理中起很大作用。
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And the more these organizations are complex and sophisticated,
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這些組織變得越複雜精密
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the less we can think of them as the opposite of a state.
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我們越無法關注到他們與國家的不同,
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Now, what do you call a group like Hezbollah?
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那麼,你將會如何稱呼真主黨這類組織呢?
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They run part of a territory, they administer all their functions,
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他們運營自己的基地, 並且管理所有的職能部門,
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they pick up the garbage, they run the sewage system.
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他們清理垃圾,也經營排水管道。
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Is this a state? Is it a rebel group?
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這是一個國家?還是一個反叛組織?
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Or maybe something else, something different and new?
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或者是另外的東西,是一個完全新的東西?
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And what about ISIS?
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現在我們來聊聊ISIS,
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The lines are blurred.
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界限變得模糊,
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We live in a world of states, non-states, and in-between,
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我們生活在由國家,非國家 和介於二者間的世界中,
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and the more states are weak, like in the Middle East today,
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隨著越來越多的國家變得軟弱, 例如當今的中東,
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the more non-state actors step in and fill that gap.
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越來越多的非國家組織就介入 並填充職能缺失。
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This matters for governments, because to counter these groups,
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對於政府而言,在面對這些組織中
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they will have to invest more in non-military tools.
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政府需要在非軍事職能方面投入更多
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Filling that governance gap
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填充治理的空白
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has to be at the center of any sustainable approach.
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是任何永續發展方式的重心。
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This also matters very much for peacemaking and peacebuilding.
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如果我們更好的理解武裝組織
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If we better understand armed groups,
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對於和平調節和構建也有深遠意義,
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we will better know what incentives to offer
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我們會更了解如何給出更優的動機
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to encourage the transition from violence to nonviolence.
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促進暴力到非暴力的轉變。
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So in this new contest between states and non-states,
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所以在國家與非國家之間的競爭中,
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military power can win some battles,
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軍事力量可以贏得一些戰爭
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but it will not give us peace nor stability.
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但是不會使社會和平穩定
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To achieve these objectives,
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為了實現這個目標
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what we need is a long-term investment in filling that security gap,
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我們需要長期對安保缺失進行彌補
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in filling that governance gap
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彌補治理缺失
使得這些組織得到成長。
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that allowed these groups to thrive in the first place.
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謝謝。
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Thank you.
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05:33
(Applause)
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