The surprising way groups like ISIS stay in power | Benedetta Berti

352,187 views

2015-08-10 ・ TED


New videos

The surprising way groups like ISIS stay in power | Benedetta Berti

352,187 views ・ 2015-08-10

TED


Please double-click on the English subtitles below to play the video.

00:12
For the past decade,
0
12849
1471
00:14
I've been studying non-state armed groups:
1
14344
2902
00:17
armed organizations like terrorists, insurgents or militias.
2
17270
3867
00:21
I document what these groups do when they're not shooting.
3
21588
3173
00:24
My goal is to better understand these violent actors
4
24785
3563
00:28
and to study ways to encourage transition from violent engagement
5
28372
3690
00:32
to nonviolent confrontation.
6
32086
1877
00:33
I work in the field, in the policy world and in the library.
7
33987
3404
00:37
Understanding non-state armed groups is key to solving most ongoing conflict,
8
37749
5111
00:42
because war has changed.
9
42884
1556
00:44
It used to be a contest between states.
10
44464
2460
00:47
No longer.
11
47568
1151
00:48
It is now a conflict between states and non-state actors.
12
48743
3938
00:53
For example, of the 216 peace agreements
13
53236
3736
00:56
signed between 1975 and 2011,
14
56996
3410
01:00
196 of them were between a state and a non-state actor.
15
60430
5180
01:05
So we need to understand these groups; we need to either engage them
16
65634
3237
01:08
or defeat them in any conflict resolution process that has to be successful.
17
68895
4889
01:13
So how do we do that?
18
73808
1414
01:15
We need to know what makes these organizations tick.
19
75805
3004
01:19
We know a lot about how they fight, why they fight,
20
79148
2793
01:21
but no one looks at what they're doing when they're not fighting.
21
81965
3054
01:25
Yet, armed struggle and unarmed politics are related.
22
85043
3592
01:28
It is all part of the same organization.
23
88659
2298
01:30
We cannot understand these groups, let alone defeat them,
24
90981
3157
01:34
if we don't have the full picture.
25
94162
1888
01:37
And armed groups today are complex organizations.
26
97140
3058
01:40
Take the Lebanese Hezbollah,
27
100222
1903
01:42
known for its violent confrontation against Israel.
28
102149
2783
01:44
But since its creation in the early 1980s,
29
104956
2835
01:47
Hezbollah has also set up a political party,
30
107815
2585
01:50
a social-service network, and a military apparatus.
31
110424
3317
01:53
Similarly, the Palestinian Hamas,
32
113765
2626
01:56
known for its suicide attacks against Israel,
33
116415
2567
01:59
also runs the Gaza Strip since 2007.
34
119006
3204
02:02
So these groups do way more than just shoot.
35
122234
2678
02:05
They multi-task.
36
125453
1159
02:07
They set up complex communication machines --
37
127239
3015
02:10
radio stations, TV channels,
38
130278
2143
02:12
Internet websites and social media strategies.
39
132445
2953
02:15
And up here, you have the ISIS magazine,
40
135422
2292
02:17
printed in English and published to recruit.
41
137738
3125
02:21
Armed groups also invest in complex fund-raising --
42
141259
2907
02:24
not looting, but setting up profitable businesses;
43
144190
3863
02:28
for example, construction companies.
44
148077
2390
02:30
Now, these activities are keys.
45
150491
1883
02:32
They allow these groups to increase their strength,
46
152398
2420
02:34
increase their funds,
47
154842
1355
02:36
to better recruit and to build their brand.
48
156221
2872
02:39
Armed groups also do something else:
49
159537
1739
02:41
they build stronger bonds with the population
50
161300
2660
02:43
by investing in social services.
51
163984
2449
02:46
They build schools, they run hospitals,
52
166457
2843
02:49
they set up vocational-training programs or micro-loan programs.
53
169324
3756
02:53
Hezbollah offers all of these services and more.
54
173104
3777
02:56
Armed groups also seek to win the population over
55
176905
2809
02:59
by offering something that the state is not providing:
56
179738
3900
03:03
safety and security.
57
183662
2051
03:06
The initial rise of the Taliban in war-torn Afghanistan,
58
186141
3960
03:10
or even the beginning of the ascent of ISIS,
59
190125
2877
03:13
can be understood also by looking at these groups' efforts
60
193026
3058
03:16
to provide security.
61
196108
2216
03:18
Now, unfortunately, in these cases,
62
198348
2271
03:20
the provision of security came at an unbearably high price
63
200643
3246
03:23
for the population.
64
203913
1410
03:25
But in general, providing social services fills a gap,
65
205347
4241
03:29
a governance gap left by the government,
66
209612
2261
03:31
and allows these groups to increase their strength
67
211897
2595
03:34
and their power.
68
214516
1198
03:36
For example, the 2006 electoral victory of the Palestinian Hamas
69
216040
4406
03:40
cannot be understood without acknowledging the group's social work.
70
220470
3579
03:44
Now, this is a really complex picture,
71
224696
2374
03:47
yet in the West, when we look at armed groups,
72
227094
2477
03:49
we only think of the violent side.
73
229595
2202
03:51
But that's not enough to understand these groups' strength,
74
231821
2872
03:54
strategy or long-term vision.
75
234717
2262
03:57
These groups are hybrid.
76
237393
1560
03:58
They rise because they fill a gap left by the government,
77
238977
3324
04:02
and they emerge to be both armed and political,
78
242325
3380
04:05
engage in violent struggle and provide governance.
79
245729
3220
04:09
And the more these organizations are complex and sophisticated,
80
249431
4008
04:13
the less we can think of them as the opposite of a state.
81
253463
3341
04:16
Now, what do you call a group like Hezbollah?
82
256828
2279
04:19
They run part of a territory, they administer all their functions,
83
259131
3315
04:22
they pick up the garbage, they run the sewage system.
84
262470
3134
04:25
Is this a state? Is it a rebel group?
85
265628
2711
04:28
Or maybe something else, something different and new?
86
268720
3337
04:32
And what about ISIS?
87
272081
1681
04:33
The lines are blurred.
88
273786
1270
04:35
We live in a world of states, non-states, and in-between,
89
275080
3758
04:38
and the more states are weak, like in the Middle East today,
90
278862
3413
04:42
the more non-state actors step in and fill that gap.
91
282299
3476
04:45
This matters for governments, because to counter these groups,
92
285799
3126
04:48
they will have to invest more in non-military tools.
93
288949
3450
04:53
Filling that governance gap
94
293202
1471
04:54
has to be at the center of any sustainable approach.
95
294697
3429
04:58
This also matters very much for peacemaking and peacebuilding.
96
298150
3639
05:01
If we better understand armed groups,
97
301813
2031
05:03
we will better know what incentives to offer
98
303868
2462
05:06
to encourage the transition from violence to nonviolence.
99
306354
3776
05:10
So in this new contest between states and non-states,
100
310487
3644
05:14
military power can win some battles,
101
314155
2652
05:16
but it will not give us peace nor stability.
102
316831
2833
05:20
To achieve these objectives,
103
320085
1848
05:21
what we need is a long-term investment in filling that security gap,
104
321957
4805
05:26
in filling that governance gap
105
326786
2001
05:28
that allowed these groups to thrive in the first place.
106
328811
3091
05:32
Thank you.
107
332220
1151
05:33
(Applause)
108
333395
3557
About this website

This site will introduce you to YouTube videos that are useful for learning English. You will see English lessons taught by top-notch teachers from around the world. Double-click on the English subtitles displayed on each video page to play the video from there. The subtitles scroll in sync with the video playback. If you have any comments or requests, please contact us using this contact form.

https://forms.gle/WvT1wiN1qDtmnspy7