James B. Glattfelder: Who controls the world?

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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譯者: Jui-Hsin Chen 審譯者: Ingrid Fan
"當危機來臨時
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"When the crisis came,
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現有的經濟體系和金融模型
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the serious limitations of existing economic and financial models
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嚴重的侷限性會馬上顯露出來。"
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immediately became apparent."
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"社會上還有一種強烈的共識, 我在這裡和各位分享
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"There is also a strong belief, which I share,
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that bad or oversimplistic and overconfident economics
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就是錯誤的或是過於簡化 和過度自信的經濟
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helped create the crisis."
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造就了這場危機。"
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Now, you've probably all heard of similar criticism
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你們或多或少聽過類似的評論
特別是從質疑資本主義者的口中聽到
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coming from people who are skeptical of capitalism.
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But this is different.
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但我剛才所說的是不一樣的
我剛才所說的,是發自金融體系的核心
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This is coming from the heart of finance.
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The first quote is from Jean-Claude Trichet
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第一句話是來自尚.克勞德特里謝 (Jean-Claude Trichet)
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when he was governor of the European Central Bank.
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當他還是歐洲中央銀行總裁時所說的
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The second quote is from the head of the UK Financial Services Authority.
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第二句話是來自
英國金融管理局的局長
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Are these people implying
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這些人是在暗示
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that we don't understand the economic systems
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我們不了解推動現代社會的
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that drive our modern societies?
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經濟制度嗎?
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It gets worse.
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情況越來越糟
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"We spend billions of dollars
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"我們花數十億美元
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trying to understand the origins of the universe,
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試著去了解宇宙的起源
但我們仍然不了解
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while we still don't understand the conditions for a stable society,
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一個穩定的社會、正常運作的 經濟或是和平所需要的條件
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a functioning economy, or peace."
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What's happening here? How can this be possible?
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到底發生了甚麼事? 怎會這樣呢?
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Do we really understand more about the fabric of reality
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我們對於現實本質的了解
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than we do about the fabric which emerges from our human interactions?
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會比我們對於
人類的互動所交織而成的 社會了解的更多嗎?
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Unfortunately, the answer is yes.
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很不幸的,答案是肯定的
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But there's an intriguing solution
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但是,現在有個耐人尋味的解決方案
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which is coming from what is known as the science of complexity.
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從所謂的複雜性科學衍生出來
為了說明這是什麼東西 還有這代表甚麼意思
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To explain what this means and what this thing is,
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please let me quickly take a couple of steps back.
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請容許我先把時間倒回幾步
在偶然之下,我選擇了物理這條路
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I ended up in physics by accident.
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It was a random encounter when I was young,
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這是在我年輕時的一個巧合
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and since then, I've often wondered about the amazing success of physics
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從那時候開始,我就時常在想
關於物理驚人的成就
它描述了我們每天生活的 現實世界運作的方式
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in describing the reality we wake up in every day.
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簡單來說,你可以把 物理想像成以下這樣子
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In a nutshell, you can think of physics as follows.
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So you take a chunk of reality you want to understand
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你拿走了一塊你想要 了解的現實世界
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and you translate it into mathematics.
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然後你用數學來詮釋它
你將它轉換成方程式
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You encode it into equations.
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Then, predictions can be made and tested.
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如此,你可以預期結果並且測試它
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We're actually really lucky that this works,
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我們真的很幸運這樣的方式是可行的
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because no one really knows why the thoughts in our heads
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因為沒有人真正了解我們腦中的想法
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should actually relate to the fundamental workings of the universe.
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實際上和宇宙運行的基本法則是有關聯的
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Despite the success, physics has its limits.
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儘管有如此的成就 物理仍然有它的侷限性
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As Dirk Helbing pointed out in the last quote,
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如同德克.海爾賓在剛剛最後一段引言所指出的 (Dirk Helbing瑞士一名物理學和社會學家)
我們並不是真的了解
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we don't really understand the complexity that relates to us, that surrounds us.
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和我們有關並且環繞著在我們的複雜性
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This paradox is what got me interested in complex systems.
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這個悖論讓我對於這樣複雜系統產生了興趣
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So these are systems which are made up
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以下這些系統
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of many interconnected or interacting parts:
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是由許多部分相互關聯 和相互作用所引起的
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swarms of birds or fish,
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一整群的鳥或是魚、螞蟻的地盤
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ant colonies, ecosystems, brains, financial markets.
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生態系統、腦、金融市場
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These are just a few examples.
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這些其中只是一小部分的例子
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Interestingly, complex systems are very hard to map
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很有趣的是,要將複雜系統
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into mathematical equations,
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用數學方程式描繪出來是非常困難的
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so the usual physics approach doesn't really work here.
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所以慣用的物理方法 在這裡無用武之地
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So what do we know about complex systems?
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我們對於複雜系統所知多少?
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Well, it turns out that what looks like complex behavior from the outside
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實際上,我們在複雜行為的外表所看到的
其實就是它那少數且簡單的規則
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is actually the result of a few simple rules of interaction.
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互動的結果
這代表你可以忘掉那些方程式
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This means you can forget about the equations
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and just start to understand the system
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然後從觀察它的互動行為
開始了解這系統
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by looking at the interactions,
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so you can actually forget about the equations
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所以你真的可以不用再管那些方程式了
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and you just start to look at the interactions.
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你只要開始觀察那些互動行為
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And it gets even better, because most complex systems
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而這讓一切變得更順利 因為絕大多數的複雜系統
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have this amazing property called emergence.
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都有一個了不起的特性,叫做突現性 (Emergence)
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So this means that the system as a whole suddenly starts to show a behavior
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這代表的是一整個系統
會突然地展現出一種現象
而這個現象是無法被了解或預測的
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which cannot be understood or predicted
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by looking at the components of the system.
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如果你只注意這整個系統的一小部分的話
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So the whole is literally more than the sum of its parts.
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所以系統的整體,實際上 比它所有部分的總合還要多
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And all of this also means
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而這也意味著,你可以 不管系統那些個別的部分
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that you can forget about the individual parts of the system,
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還有它們的複雜性
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how complex they are.
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So if it's a cell or a termite or a bird,
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假設這個系統是個細胞、是白蟻或是一隻鳥
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you just focus on the rules of interaction.
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你只要專注在它們互動的規則上
結論就是,網絡是代表複雜系統
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As a result, networks are ideal representations of complex systems.
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最理想的代表詞
每個網絡的節點
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The nodes in the network are the system's components,
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就像是系統的零件一樣
而互動就是結點之間的連接線
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and the links are given by the interactions.
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So what equations are for physics,
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方程式之於物理學
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complex networks are for the study of complex systems.
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就像複雜網絡之於複雜系統一樣
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This approach has been very successfully applied
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這個方法已經被成功的應用在
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to many complex systems in physics, biology,
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許多的複雜系統,像是物理學、生物學
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computer science, the social sciences,
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資訊工程學、社會科學
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but what about economics?
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但經濟學呢?
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Where are economic networks?
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經濟學的網絡在哪?
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This is a surprising and prominent gap in the literature.
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在相關文獻中,這是一個驚人且顯而易見的鴻溝
我們在去年發表的一篇研究
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The study we published last year, called "The Network of Global Corporate Control,"
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叫做 "全球企業控制權的網絡"
是第一個大規模分析經濟網絡的研究
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was the first extensive analysis of economic networks.
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The study went viral on the Internet
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這個研究在網路上像病毒般的傳播出去
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and it attracted a lot of attention from the international media.
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並吸引了非常多國際媒體的目光
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This is quite remarkable, because, again, why did no one look at this before?
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這是很值得關注的,因為再一次地
為什麼之前從來沒有人關注過這件事?
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Similar data has been around for quite some time.
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類似的資料在很久以前就唾手可得了
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What we looked at in detail was ownership networks.
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我們研究的是,所有權網絡的詳細訊息
在這圖上,結點代表公司行號、人、政府機關
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So here the nodes are companies, people, governments, foundations, etc.
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基金會等等
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And the links represent the shareholding relations,
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而連接線代表的是股權關係
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so shareholder A has x percent of the shares in company B.
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如此來看,股東 A 擁有公司 B 百分之 X 的股份
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And we also assign a value to the company given by the operating revenue.
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同時我們也將公司的價值標註在上面
基於公司營業收入來訂定的
所以,所有權網絡展現出一種
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So ownership networks reveal the patterns of shareholding relations.
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股東關係的模式
在這個小小的範例中,你們可以看到
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In this little example, you can see a few financial institutions
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少量的金融機構
和很多被凸顯出來的連接線
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with some of the many links highlighted.
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Now, you may think that no one looked at this before
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現在你可能想,以前從來沒有人看過這個
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because ownership networks are really, really boring to study.
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因為所有權網絡
研究起來非常非常無聊
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Well, as ownership is related to control,
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好吧,當所有權和控制權做出關聯後
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as I shall explain later,
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這我在稍後會做出解釋
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looking at ownership networks
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仔細看所有權網絡
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actually can give you answers to questions like,
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實際上這可以讓以下這類問題的答案呼之欲出
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who are the key players?
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誰是這裏面的關鍵成員?
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How are they organized? Are they isolated?
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它們是如何組織起來的? 它們是各自獨立的嗎?
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Are they interconnected?
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它們是互相連接的嗎?
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And what is the overall distribution of control?
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還有,整體的控制權分配是如何?
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In other words, who controls the world?
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換句話說,誰掌控了世界?
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I think this is an interesting question.
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我認為這是一個很有趣的問題
並且涉及到系統性的風險
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And it has implications for systemic risk.
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這是展示一個系統在整體脆弱程度的衡量方式
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This is a measure of how vulnerable a system is overall.
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一個高度的互連接性
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A high degree of interconnectivity can be bad for stability,
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可能對穩定性有不良影響
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because then the stress can spread through the system like an epidemic.
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因為壓力會透過系統蔓延出去
如同瘟疫一般
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Scientists have sometimes criticized economists
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科學家有時會批評經濟學家
因為經濟學家相信,概念和學說
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who believe ideas and concepts are more important than empirical data,
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比實證數據還要來得重要
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because a foundational guideline in science is:
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因為在科學中的一個基準法則,就是
讓數據說話。沒問題,讓我們試試看吧
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Let the data speak. OK. Let's do that.
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So we started with a database containing 13 million ownership relations from 2007.
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所以我們開始建立一個資料庫,含蓋
自 2007 年以來,一千三百萬個所有權關係
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This is a lot of data, and because we wanted to find out
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這是非常多筆的資料,而因為我們想要找尋出
誰統治這個世界
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"who rules the world,"
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我們決定專注在跨國企業上
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we decided to focus on transnational corporations,
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or "TNCs," for short.
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簡寫就是TNC
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These are companies that operate in more than one country,
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這些企業運營的範圍多於一個國家
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and we found 43,000.
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然後我們找出了四萬三千個這樣的企業
下一步,我們勾勒出這些企業的網絡圖
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In the next step, we built the network around these companies,
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so we took all the TNCs' shareholders,
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所以我們找出了所以TNC的股東
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and the shareholders' shareholders, etc.,
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以及股東的股東等等
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all the way upstream, and we did the same downstream,
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追朔到最上游,同時也循著下游追蹤
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and ended up with a network containing 600,000 nodes
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最後的結果是一個包含六十萬個節點的網絡圖
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and one million links.
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還有一百萬個連結線
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This is the TNC network which we analyzed.
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這是我們所分析出的TNC網絡
而這引領出的結構如下
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And it turns out to be structured as follows.
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So you have a periphery and a center
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你們看到這裡有個外圍區和一個中央區
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which contains about 75 percent of all the players,
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在這範圍包含了百分之七十五的成員
而在這個中央區裡面,有個微小但是擁有主導權的核心
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and in the center, there's this tiny but dominant core
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這核心是由高度內部連接的企業所組成的
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which is made up of highly interconnected companies.
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To give you a better picture,
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再給你們一個更好的示範圖
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think about a metropolitan area.
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想像一下大都會區域
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So you have the suburbs and the periphery,
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你們會看到郊區和外圍地區
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you have a center, like a financial district,
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你們會看到一個中央區像是金融中心這樣的地方
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then the core will be something like
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而核心就會像是
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the tallest high-rise building in the center.
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在中央區內高聳入雲的那棟建築
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And we already see signs of organization going on here.
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而我們已經看到組織正在往這裡移動的跡象
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36 percent of the TNCs are in the core only,
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只有百分之三十六的TNC在這個核心中
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but they make up 95 percent of the total operating revenue of all TNCs.
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但它們卻創造出全部TNC百分之九十五
的總營業收入
現在,我們來分析這個結構
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OK, so now we analyzed the structure,
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so how does this relate to the control?
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這個和控制權有甚麼關係呢?
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Well, ownership gives voting rights to shareholders.
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實際上,所有權讓股東們擁有投票的權力
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This is the normal notion of control.
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這是對控制權最基本的概念
而這裡有不同的模型讓你來計算
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And there are different models
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which allow you to compute the control you get from ownership.
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你從所有權中,可以獲得的控制權
如果你擁有一間公司超過百分之五十的股份時
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If you have more than 50 percent of the shares in a company,
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你就獲得了控制權
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you get control,
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but usually, it depends on the relative distribution of shares.
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但這通常有賴於股份的相對分布
09:30
And the network really matters.
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因此,網絡在此占了一席之地
09:33
About 10 years ago, Mr. Tronchetti Provera
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大約十年前,Tronchetti Provera先生 (Pirelli集團負責人)
擁有一間小公司的所有權和控制權
09:36
had ownership and control in a small company,
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09:39
which had ownership and control in a bigger company.
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而這小公司擁有一間較大的公司的所有權和控制權
你們大概猜到了
09:43
You get the idea.
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09:44
This ended up giving him control in Telecom Italia with a leverage of 26.
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到最後,這讓他擁有了義大利電信的控制權
而他的財務槓桿指數是廿六
09:51
So this means that, with each euro he invested,
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這代表的意涵是,他每投資一塊歐元
09:55
he was able to move 26 euros of market value
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他就可以操控等同市場價值26歐元的資金
這是經由所有權關係的連鎖反應的結果
09:59
through the chain of ownership relations.
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10:02
Now what we actually computed in our study was the control over the TNCs' value.
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現在,我們在我們的研究中實際上所計算的
就是所有TNC價值的控制權
這讓我們可以計算出一個值,來代表每位股東
10:09
This allowed us to assign a degree of influence to each shareholder.
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的影響程度
這樣的概念就像是
10:15
This is very much in the sense of Max Weber's idea of potential power,
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Max Weber 所提出的潛在力量 (現代社會學和公共行政學重要創始人之一)
也就是一個人要將自己的意念
10:20
which is the probability of imposing one's own will
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10:23
despite the opposition of others.
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強加在反對者身上的可能向
10:27
If you want to compute the flow in an ownership network,
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如果你想要計算出一個所有權網絡中的流動性
10:32
this is what you have to do.
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這就是你所要做的事
10:33
It's actually not that hard to understand.
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實際上,要了解它不是那麼難
10:36
Let me explain by giving you this analogy.
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讓我用一個類比的方式來解釋
想像一下,水在許多水管中流動
10:39
So think about water flowing in pipes, where the pipes have different thickness.
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這些水管的粗細都不同
10:44
So similarly, the control is flowing in the ownership networks
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同樣地,控制權就是所有權網絡中的流水一樣
而且這會在每個節點中不斷累積
10:50
and is accumulating at the nodes.
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10:54
So what did we find after computing all this network control?
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所以,我們在計算這些網絡控制權後發現了甚麼?
實際上,這展示出排名前七百卅七個的股東們
10:58
Well, it turns out that the 737 top shareholders
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have the potential to collectively control 80 percent of the TNCs' value.
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擁有潛在的共同控制權
掌控百分之八十的TNC總價值
11:10
Now remember, we started out with 600,000 nodes,
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現在,請記住,我們是從六十萬個節點中開始的
11:13
so these 737 top players make up a bit more than 0.1 percent.
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所以這排名前七百卅七個成員
大概只比百分之零點一還要多出一點點
11:21
They're mostly financial institutions in the US and the UK.
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它們絕大多數是位於美國和英國的金融機構
11:26
And it gets even more extreme.
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而更極端的是
在核心中有一百四十六個成員
11:29
There are 146 top players in the core,
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它們擁有的潛在共同控制權
11:34
and they together have the potential to collectively control
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11:37
40 percent of the TNCs' value.
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是百分之四十的TNC總價值
你們從這之中應該帶回家裡的是
11:43
What should you take home from all of this?
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11:45
Well, the high degree of control you saw is very extreme by any standard.
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你們所看到的,高控制程度
對於各種標準來看都是非常極端的
高度的內部連接性
11:54
The high degree of interconnectivity of the top players in the core
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在核心中的頂尖成員來說
可以對全球經濟造成很顯著的系統性風險
11:59
could pose a significant systemic risk to the global economy.
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同時,我們可以很輕易地複製TNC網絡
12:05
And we could easily reproduce the TNC network
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12:07
with a few simple rules.
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只要用幾個簡單的規則
這代表的是,這個網絡很有可能是
12:10
This means that its structure is probably the result of self-organization.
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自我組織的結果
這是一個很危急的產物,因為它依靠的是
12:14
It's an emergent property which depends on the rules of interaction in the system,
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系統內部互動的規則
12:19
so it's probably not the result of a top-down approach
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所以,它很可能不是上而下法 (top-down approach)的結果
12:23
like a global conspiracy.
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如同全球性陰謀一樣
我們的研究 "是對月球表面的驚鴻一瞥
12:27
Our study "is an impression of the moon's surface.
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12:29
It's not a street map."
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不是細如街景地圖一般"
12:31
So you should take the exact numbers in our study with a grain of salt,
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所以你們應該對我們研究中幾個確切的數字
持懷疑的態度
12:35
yet it "gave us a tantalizing glimpse of a brave new world of finance."
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雖然它 "讓財金這個勇敢的新世界
給了我們一個誘人的一瞥"
我們希望能讓這類型的研究敞開大門
12:43
We hope to have opened the door for more such research in this direction,
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12:47
so the remaining unknown terrain will be charted in the future.
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如此,剩餘的那些未知大陸才能夠在未來被勾勒出來
12:52
And this is slowly starting.
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而這發生得很慢
12:53
We're seeing the emergence of long-term and highly-funded programs
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我們尋找的是長期
且被高度投資的計畫的出現,針對的是
12:59
which aim at understanding our networked world
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從複雜的觀點來瞭解我們的網絡世界
13:02
from a complexity point of view.
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但這個旅程才剛啟程
13:05
But this journey has only just begun,
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13:06
so we will have to wait before we see the first results.
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所以,在我們看到第一個結果之前,我們必須等待
13:12
Now there is still a big problem, in my opinion.
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現在,在我看來,仍然還有個很大的問題
關於財務、經濟、政治
13:16
Ideas relating to finance, economics, politics, society,
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社會的想法很多都被汙染了
13:22
are very often tainted by people's personal ideologies.
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人們的自我意識形態造成這種現象
13:28
I really hope that this complexity perspective
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我真心希望這樣充滿複雜性的觀點
13:32
allows for some common ground to be found.
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能夠找到一些共同點
如果它擁有打破因為觀念衝突所造成的
13:38
It would be really great if it has the power
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13:40
to help end the gridlock created by conflicting ideas,
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僵局的力量,那就真的是太棒了
13:45
which appears to be paralyzing our globalized world.
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這樣的僵局會癱瘓我們正在全球化的世界
13:50
Reality is so complex, we need to move away from dogma.
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現實是非常複雜的 我們必須拋下我們心中的教條
13:55
But this is just my own personal ideology.
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但這只是我自己的意識形態
13:58
Thank you.
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謝謝你們
13:59
(Applause)
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