The fight against sex slavery | Sunitha Krishnan

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翻译人员: Tony Yet 校对人员: Zachary Lin Zhao
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I'm talking to you about
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我要跟大家讲述的是
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the worst form of human rights violation,
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最极端的侵犯人权的故事。
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the third-largest organized crime,
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这是第三大有组织犯罪,
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a $10 billion industry.
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它也是一个产值达100亿的产业,
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I'm talking to you about modern-day slavery.
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我说的就是现代社会里的性交易。
00:34
I'd like to tell you the story
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我先分享一下三个
00:36
of these three children,
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孩子的故事。
00:38
Pranitha, Shaheen and Anjali.
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他们是Pranitha, Shaheen 和 Anjali.
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Pranitha's mother was a woman in prostitution,
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Pranitha的母亲是一位妓女,
00:46
a prostituted person.
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她是被迫卖淫的,
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She got infected with HIV,
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并且还感染了HIV
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and towards the end of her life,
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到了她生命的晚期
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when she was in the final stages of AIDS,
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也是艾滋病病毒感染的晚期
00:56
she could not prostitute,
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她甚至也无力做妓女了
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so she sold four-year-old Pranitha to a broker.
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于是她把四岁的 Pranitha 卖给了一个代理人.
01:06
By the time we got the information, we reached there,
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当我们得知信息并且去到那里的时候,
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Pranitha was already raped by three men.
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Pranitha 已经被三个男人侵犯了
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Shaheen's background I don't even know.
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而Shaheen,我连她的背景也不清楚
01:17
We found her in a railway track,
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我们是在铁路轨道上发现她的
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raped by many, many men, I don't know many.
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她那时也被多个男人强奸了,具体数字也不甚清楚
01:25
But the indications of that on her body was
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但是所发生的一切
01:28
that her intestine was outside her body.
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从她流出体外的肠子便可以推断出
01:32
And when we took her to the hospital
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我们把她带到医院的时候
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she needed 32 stitches to put back her intestine into her body.
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医生需要给她连上32针才能把肠子放回身体里
01:39
We still don't know who her parents are, who she is.
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我们现在还不知她父母是谁,也不知她是谁
01:42
All that we know that hundreds of men
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我们知道的就是有
01:44
had used her brutally.
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数百个男人都参与了对她的强暴
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Anjali's father, a drunkard,
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Anjali的父亲是一个酒鬼
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sold his child for pornography.
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他把孩子卖给了色情商人
01:56
You're seeing here images of
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你现在看到的是一些
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three years, four-year-olds, and five-year-old children
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仅仅是三岁、四岁、五岁的孩子
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who have been trafficked for commercial sexual exploitation.
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她们被拐卖,用于性服务
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In this country, and across the globe,
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在印度、在全世界,
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hundreds and thousands of children,
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有数以千百计的孩子
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as young as three, as young as four,
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有的只有三四岁
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are sold into sexual slavery.
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被拐卖作为性奴隶
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But that's not the only purpose that human beings are sold for.
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但这还不是人口拐卖的全部
02:23
They are sold in the name of adoption.
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这些拐卖行为是在收养的名义之下进行的
02:25
They are sold in the name of organ trade.
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或者是在器官买卖的名义下进行的
02:28
They are sold in the name of forced labor,
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又或者是 在强制劳动的名义下进行的
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camel jockeying, anything, everything.
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还有是骆驼手以及各种各样的名义
02:34
I work on the issue of commercial sexual exploitation.
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我的工作就是反对商业性剥削
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And I tell you stories from there.
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我的故事就是这里来的
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My own journey to work with these children
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我的这一工作的起源是
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started as a teenager.
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在我还是小孩的时候
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I was 15 when I was gang-raped by eight men.
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我十五岁,那一年我被八个男人强奸了
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I don't remember the rape part of it so much
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我对于强奸记得不是很清晰
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as much as the anger part of it.
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但对于那件事带给我的愤怒倒是记忆犹新
03:01
Yes, there were eight men who defiled me, raped me,
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不错,八个男人强暴了我
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but that didn't go into my consciousness.
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但那不会进入我的意识里
03:06
I never felt like a victim, then or now.
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我从没有一种受害者的感觉,那时候没有,现在也没有
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But what lingered from then till now -- I am 40 today --
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但从那时一直到现在有一种情绪萦绕我的心头——我今年40岁
03:14
is this huge outrageous anger.
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那就是一种强烈的愤怒
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Two years, I was ostracized, I was stigmatized, I was isolated,
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有两年时间,我被周遭唾弃,我被诋毁名声,被隔离
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because I was a victim.
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就因为我曾被人强暴
03:27
And that's what we do to all traffic survivors.
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这恰恰是我们对待所有的受害者的态度
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We, as a society, we have PhDs
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我们这个社会甚至有
03:35
in victimizing a victim.
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加害受害者的“专家”
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Right from the age of 15,
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从15岁那一年开始
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when I started looking around me,
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我环顾我的周围
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I started seeing hundreds and thousands of women and children
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我开到了千百位妇女和孩子
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who are left in sexual slavery-like practices,
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她们都成为了性奴隶
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but have absolutely no respite,
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但她们没有走出来的空间
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because we don't allow them to come in.
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因为我们不容纳这些人
03:58
Where does their journey begin?
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她们是从什么地方开始的?
04:00
Most of them come from very optionless families,
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她们的家庭背景很不一样
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not just poor.
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不单有来自穷人家庭的
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You have even the middle class sometimes getting trafficked.
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甚至也有中产家庭的孩子被拐卖的
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I had this I.S. officer's daughter,
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这是一位信息安全官的女儿
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who is 14 years old, studying in ninth standard,
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她14岁,正在读九年级
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who was raped chatting with one individual,
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在跟别人聊天的时候被强暴了
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and ran away from home because she wanted to become a heroine,
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她就离家出走,因为她希望成为一个女英雄
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who was trafficked.
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一个被拐卖的女英雄
04:26
I have hundreds and thousands of stories of very very well-to-do families,
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还有许许多多富人家庭的孩子也被拐卖了
04:31
and children from well-to-do families,
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达官贵人家的子弟也不例外
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who are getting trafficked.
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都逃不出这个厄运
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These people are deceived, forced.
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这些孩子被诱骗,是被迫的
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99.9 percent of them
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99.9%都是如此
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resist being inducted into prostitution.
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她们都反抗过
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Some pay the price for it.
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有些还为此付出了较大的金钱代价
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They're killed; we don't even hear about them.
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有些人因此而被杀头,我们甚至都没有听说过这样的故事
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They are voiceless, [unclear],
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她们是无声的
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nameless people.
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无名的受害者
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But the rest, who succumb into it,
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而那些屈于现实的孩子,
05:00
go through everyday torture.
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则每天都在经历苦难
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Because the men who come to them are not men who want to make you your girlfriends,
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因为跟她们“玩”的男人都不是要跟她们交朋友的
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or who want to have a family with you.
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也不是希望跟她们组成家庭的
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These are men who buy you for an hour, for a day,
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她们只是想租用你的一个小时或一天
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and use you, throw you.
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是在使用你,而后就丢弃你
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Each of the girls that I have rescued --
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我所拯救的每一个女孩
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I have rescued more than 3,200 girls --
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现在我已经救活了3200个
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each of them tell me one story in common ...
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她们每一个都会给我讲述同样的故事——
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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one story about one man, at least,
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都起码讲到一个男人的故事
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putting chili powder in her vagina,
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他们会把辣椒放到她们的阴道里
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one man taking a cigarette and burning her,
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还有男人用烟头来烧她们
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one man whipping her.
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有人直接就打她们
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We are living among those men: they're our brothers, fathers,
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我们就跟这样的男人生活在一起,他们也许就是我们的兄弟、父亲、舅舅
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uncles, cousins, all around us.
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他们就在我们身边
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And we are silent about them.
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但我们依然保持缄默
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We think it is easy money.
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我们认为那是很容易得来的钱
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We think it is shortcut.
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认为那是捷径
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We think the person likes to do what she's doing.
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甚至认为那些女孩是乐意去做这些事情的
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But the extra bonuses that she gets
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但是那些女孩得到的
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is various infections, sexually transmitted infections,
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就是各种各样的感染以及性病
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HIV, AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhea, you name it,
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包括HIV, AIDS, 梅毒, 淋病, 以及其他各种病
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substance abuse, drugs, everything under the sun.
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还有就是滥用毒品和药物
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And one day she gives up on you and me,
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直到有一天她放弃了你我
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because we have no options for her.
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因为我们没有给她任何的选择
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And therefore she starts normalizing this exploitation.
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慢慢的她也把这样的性剥削当成常态
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She believes, "Yes, this is it, this is what my destiny is about."
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她会想,这就是我命中注定的
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And this is normal, to get raped by 100 men a day.
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一天被100个男人强暴也是很普通的事情
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And it's abnormal to live in a shelter.
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而有固定的房间住则是不正常的
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It's abnormal to get rehabilitated.
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要恢复到原状也是非常态
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It's in that context that I work.
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我正是在这样的背景下工作的
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It's in that context that I rescue children.
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我也是在这样的背景下去拯救那些孩子的
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I've rescued children as young as three years,
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我拯救过小至三岁的孩子
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and I've rescued women as old as 40 years.
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我也拯救过40岁的妇女
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When I rescued them, one of the biggest challenges I had
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当我去拯救她们的时候,我遇到的最大的困难之一
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was where do I begin.
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就是不知从哪里开始
06:51
Because I had lots of them
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因为这样的受害者太多了
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who were already HIV infected.
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很多都已经感染了HIV病毒
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One third of the people I rescue
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我救过的人当中有三分之一
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are HIV positive.
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都是HIV病毒阳性
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And therefore my challenge was to
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因此我最大的挑战就是
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understand how can I get out
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去理解我该如何帮助她们
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the power from this pain.
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重新拾回信心
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And for me, I was my greatest experience.
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我知道我自身的经历就是最好的经验
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Understanding my own self,
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去理解我自己
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understanding my own pain,
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理解我自己的苦痛
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my own isolation,
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我的被隔离感
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was my greatest teacher.
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就是我最好的老师
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Because what we did with these girls
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面对这些孩子,我们所做的,
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is to understand their potential.
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就是去发现她们的潜质
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You see a girl here who is trained as a welder.
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这个女孩就是接受了培训后成为了焊接师
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She works for a very big company,
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她现在在一家大公司工作
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a workshop in Hyderabad,
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那是在 Hyderabad的一个工厂
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making furnitures.
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她的工作是制作傢俬
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She earns around 12,000 rupees.
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每个月可以赚得12000印度卢布
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She is an illiterate girl,
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她是不认字的
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trained, skilled as a welder.
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但经过培训之后成为了熟练的焊接师
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Why welding and why not computers?
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为什么要成为焊接师而不是程序员?
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We felt, one of the things that these girls had
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我们感到,这些女孩都有
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is immense amount of courage.
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相当强烈的勇气
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They did not have any pardas inside their body,
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她们没有过多的顾虑
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hijabs inside themselves;
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或者是束缚
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they've crossed the barrier of it.
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她们已经跨越了那道屏障
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And therefore they could fight in a male-dominated world,
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她们可以在一个男性占主导的社会里取得自己的位置
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very easily, and not feel very shy about it.
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非常容易,并且不会感到不自然
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We have trained girls as carpenters,
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我们还把一些孩子训练成为木匠师傅
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as masons,
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成为建筑工人
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as security guards, as cab drivers.
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成为保安或者是计程车司机
08:31
And each one of them are excelling
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她们每一个人都在各自的位置
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in their chosen field,
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各自的领域上做得相当出色
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gaining confidence, restoring dignity,
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她们获得了自信、重拾了自尊
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and building hopes in their own lives.
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也为自己的生活重建了希望
08:44
These girls are also working in big construction companies
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她们也在大型的建筑公司工作
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like Ram-ki construction, as masons, full-time masons.
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比如在 Ram-ki 建筑公司当全职的建筑工人
08:54
What has been my challenge?
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而我面临的挑战又有哪些呢?
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My challenge has not been the traffickers who beat me up.
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不是那些性奴隶贩子
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I've been beaten up more than 14 times in my life.
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我一生有多于14次被别人打过
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I can't hear from my right ear.
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我的右耳都不能听了
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I've lost a staff of mine who was murdered
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我的同事在拯救孩子的时候
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while on a rescue.
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被别人谋杀了
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My biggest challenge
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我最大的挑战
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is society.
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反而是社会本身
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It's you and me.
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我最大的挑战来自于你和我
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My biggest challenge is your blocks to accept these victims
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你们堵塞了接纳这些受害者的渠道
09:27
as our own.
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你们不把这些孩子当成是我们中间的一分子
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A very supportive friend of mine,
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我有一位非常支持我的朋友
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a well-wisher of mine,
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她也经常为我祈祷
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used to give me every month, 2,000 rupees for vegetables.
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过去曾每个月给我两千卢布让我买蔬菜
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When her mother fell sick she said,
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她母亲病倒的时候,她说
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"Sunitha, you have so much of contacts.
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"Sunitha, 你有那么广的人脉
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Can you get somebody in my house to work,
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你能找个人到我屋子干活,
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so that she can look after my mother?"
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让她照料我母亲吗?
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And there is a long pause.
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然后她顿了一下,
09:51
And then she says, "Not one of our girls."
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接着说,“但希望不要是那些女孩”
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It's very fashionable to talk about human trafficking,
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在这样有冷气的屋子里谈论人口贩卖是
09:58
in this fantastic A-C hall.
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非常时尚的事情
10:01
It's very nice for discussion, discourse,
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这是一个非常适宜用来讨论和谈话的地方
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making films and everything.
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或者是放电影、干其他什么事情
10:07
But it is not nice to bring them to our homes.
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但似乎我们不可以把这些女孩带到这里
10:11
It's not nice to give them employment in our factories, our companies.
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似乎让她们到我们的工厂或公司去工作是不妥当的
10:17
It's not nice for our children to study with their children.
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似乎我们的孩子就不应当和她们的孩子混在一起
10:21
There it ends.
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这就是
10:23
That's my biggest challenge.
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我面临的最大的挑战。
10:25
If I'm here today, I'm here not only as Sunitha Krishnan.
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我今天站在这里,不单是代表 Sunitha Krishnan.
10:29
I'm here as a voice of the victims and survivors of human trafficking.
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我是代表那些性奴隶交易的受害者以及幸存者
10:34
They need your compassion.
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她们需要你们的同情心
10:37
They need your empathy.
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你们的同理心
10:39
They need, much more than anything else,
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她们首先需要的是
10:41
your acceptance.
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你们的接纳
10:45
Many times when I talk to people,
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很多时候我跟别人聊天的时候
10:47
I keep telling them one thing:
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我总会告诉她们一个事情
10:49
don't tell me hundred ways
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不要跟我讲千百次
10:52
how you cannot respond to this problem.
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为何你不能为这个问题做点什么
10:55
Can you ply your mind for that one way
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能不能打开你的心扉
10:58
that you can respond to the problem?
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就想出一个你可以做的办法?
11:01
And that's what I'm here for,
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这就是我来到这里的全部理由
11:03
asking for your support,
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我希望可以获得你们的支持
11:05
demanding for your support,
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我向你们索求这种支持
11:07
requesting for your support.
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我呼唤你们支持她们
11:09
Can you break your culture of silence?
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你们能否打破这样一种在事实面前保持沉默的现状?
11:12
Can you speak to at least two persons about this story?
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你能否跟至少两个人说这个故事?
11:16
Tell them this story. Convince them to tell the story to another two persons.
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给她们讲这个故事吧,并且说服她们把这个故事讲给另外两个人知道吧
11:21
I'm not asking you all to become Mahatma Gandhis
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我不是希望大家都成为甘地
11:23
or Martin Luther Kings, or Medha Patkars,
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或马丁·路德或 Medha Patkars,
11:25
or something like that.
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或者类似的人
11:27
I'm asking you, in your limited world,
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我只是希望你们可以在你们的空间里
11:30
can you open your minds? Can you open your hearts?
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打开心扉。
11:33
Can you just encompass these people too?
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你们能否接纳这些人?
11:37
Because they are also a part of us.
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因为她们也是我们当中的一员啊!
11:40
They are also part of this world.
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她们也是世界的一员啊
11:42
I'm asking you, for these children,
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我是为这些孩子在说话
11:46
whose faces you see, they're no more.
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你看到了她们的脸,但她们已经不再这个世界上
11:48
They died of AIDS last year.
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她们去年就因为感染艾滋病而死亡
11:51
I'm asking you to help them,
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我希望大家可以帮助她们
11:55
accept as human beings --
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把她们当成普通的人来看
11:58
not as philanthropy, not as charity,
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这不是慈善行为
12:01
but as human beings who deserve all our support.
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只是给予她们基本的作为一个人该得到的尊重
12:05
I'm asking you this because no child, no human being,
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我之所以希望你们这么做,
12:09
deserves what these children have gone through.
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是因为没有任何一个孩子是应当承受这样的现实的
12:12
Thank you.
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谢谢大家。
12:14
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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