The fight against sex slavery | Sunitha Krishnan

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譯者: Jayce Pei Yu Lee 審譯者: Zachary Lin Zhao
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I'm talking to you about
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我要和大家談的是
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the worst form of human rights violation,
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最極端的侵犯人權的故事。
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the third-largest organized crime,
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是世界第三大犯罪組織型態,
00:26
a $10 billion industry.
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與產值達100億美金的產業。
00:29
I'm talking to you about modern-day slavery.
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我說的就是現代社會裡的性交易。
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I'd like to tell you the story
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我想和大家分享
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of these three children,
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這三個孩童的故事。
00:38
Pranitha, Shaheen and Anjali.
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普拉妮莎,夏伊和安吉莉。
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Pranitha's mother was a woman in prostitution,
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普拉妮莎的母親是賣淫的
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a prostituted person.
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是一個妓女。
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She got infected with HIV,
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她感染了HIV
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and towards the end of her life,
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到了她生命將結束時,
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when she was in the final stages of AIDS,
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也到了愛滋病的末期,
00:56
she could not prostitute,
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她無法也無力再賣淫,
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so she sold four-year-old Pranitha to a broker.
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於是她把四歲的普拉妮莎賣給一個掮客,
01:06
By the time we got the information, we reached there,
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當我們得知消息趕過去時,
01:09
Pranitha was already raped by three men.
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普拉妮莎已被三個男人強暴。
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Shaheen's background I don't even know.
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而我對夏伊的背景甚至一無所知。
01:17
We found her in a railway track,
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我們在鐵路軌道上發現她,
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raped by many, many men, I don't know many.
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被太多太多的男人強暴,多少我不清楚
01:25
But the indications of that on her body was
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但她身上的傷痕腸子外露的跡象
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that her intestine was outside her body.
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是令人心碎的證據。
01:32
And when we took her to the hospital
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當我們帶她到醫院的時候
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she needed 32 stitches to put back her intestine into her body.
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為了把腸子放回去,醫生縫了32針。
01:39
We still don't know who her parents are, who she is.
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我們迄今仍不知道她的父母是誰,或她是誰。
01:42
All that we know that hundreds of men
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我們只知道數以百計的男人
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had used her brutally.
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殘忍無情的凌虐她。
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Anjali's father, a drunkard,
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安吉莉的父親是個酒鬼,
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sold his child for pornography.
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為了色情書刊把他的孩子賣了。
01:56
You're seeing here images of
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這裡所看到的
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three years, four-year-olds, and five-year-old children
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是一些僅僅三、四、五歲的孩童
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who have been trafficked for commercial sexual exploitation.
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他們被販賣做性交易
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In this country, and across the globe,
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在印度,和世界各地
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hundreds and thousands of children,
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數以千計的兒童
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as young as three, as young as four,
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有的甚至只有三、四歲
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are sold into sexual slavery.
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成了性人口販賣的祭品。
02:20
But that's not the only purpose that human beings are sold for.
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但這並不只是人口販賣的唯一目的,
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They are sold in the name of adoption.
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有的以收養名義進行。
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They are sold in the name of organ trade.
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有的以器官販賣進行,
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They are sold in the name of forced labor,
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有的以強迫勞動的名義進行
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camel jockeying, anything, everything.
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甚至駱駝騎師等等,任何理由。
02:34
I work on the issue of commercial sexual exploitation.
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我的工作是針對商業性剝削
02:37
And I tell you stories from there.
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故事從這裡說起
02:39
My own journey to work with these children
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我這工作心路歷程的起源是
02:43
started as a teenager.
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在我還是青少年時
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I was 15 when I was gang-raped by eight men.
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當時我十五歲被八個男人輪暴
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I don't remember the rape part of it so much
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我只記得當時心中憤怒的情緒
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as much as the anger part of it.
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多餘當時輪暴的情景
03:01
Yes, there were eight men who defiled me, raped me,
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的確,我被八個男人侵害輪暴
03:04
but that didn't go into my consciousness.
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但那些事並沒有進入我的潛意識中
03:06
I never felt like a victim, then or now.
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我從來不覺得我是受害者,無論當時或現在。
03:09
But what lingered from then till now -- I am 40 today --
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但從那時一直裊繞在我心中的情緒-我現在四十歲了
03:14
is this huge outrageous anger.
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是無比強烈的憤怒
03:18
Two years, I was ostracized, I was stigmatized, I was isolated,
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有兩年的時間,我被排擠,詆毀與人群隔離
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because I was a victim.
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只因為我是受害者
03:27
And that's what we do to all traffic survivors.
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而這正是我們對待所有性交易倖存者的態度
03:31
We, as a society, we have PhDs
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我們這個社會甚至有
03:35
in victimizing a victim.
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加害於受害者的專業人士
03:38
Right from the age of 15,
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從十五歲那年開始
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when I started looking around me,
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當我環顧四周
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I started seeing hundreds and thousands of women and children
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我看見了數以千計的婦女與兒童
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who are left in sexual slavery-like practices,
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成為性奴隸的犧牲品
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but have absolutely no respite,
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卻沒有任何生存的空間
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because we don't allow them to come in.
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因為我們不接納這些人
03:58
Where does their journey begin?
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她們的生命歷程從哪裡開始?
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Most of them come from very optionless families,
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大多數來自各式各樣的家庭背景
04:04
not just poor.
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不僅只是貧窮家庭
04:06
You have even the middle class sometimes getting trafficked.
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甚至有中產階級的孩子被誘拐的
04:09
I had this I.S. officer's daughter,
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這是一個資訊安全管理師的女兒,
04:12
who is 14 years old, studying in ninth standard,
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當時正值十四歲,就讀九年級,
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who was raped chatting with one individual,
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在和別人聊天時被強暴了
04:21
and ran away from home because she wanted to become a heroine,
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因為想成為女英雄,於是離家出走,
04:24
who was trafficked.
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而被拐賣了。
04:26
I have hundreds and thousands of stories of very very well-to-do families,
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有太多的家世顯赫的個人故事
04:31
and children from well-to-do families,
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包含富人子弟家庭的孩子
04:33
who are getting trafficked.
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也逃不了被販賣的厄運。
04:35
These people are deceived, forced.
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這些人被誘騙強迫
04:39
99.9 percent of them
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百分之九十九點九
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resist being inducted into prostitution.
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都是被迫逼去賣淫
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Some pay the price for it.
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有些付出極大代價
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They're killed; we don't even hear about them.
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有的被殺害,從此不見蹤影,
04:52
They are voiceless, [unclear],
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這些人是無聲
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nameless people.
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無名的受害者
04:56
But the rest, who succumb into it,
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而那些屈於現實的孩子
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go through everyday torture.
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每天經歷虐待折磨
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Because the men who come to them are not men who want to make you your girlfriends,
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只因為這些男人並不是想要妳成他們自己的女朋友
05:07
or who want to have a family with you.
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或者想和妳成家立業,
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These are men who buy you for an hour, for a day,
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這些男人是用錢買妳一個小時,或者一天的時間
05:14
and use you, throw you.
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濫用妳,然後丟棄妳。
05:17
Each of the girls that I have rescued --
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每一個我救過的女孩-
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I have rescued more than 3,200 girls --
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現在我已拯救了超過3200個-
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each of them tell me one story in common ...
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每一個都向我述說相同的故事。。。。
05:25
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
05:27
one story about one man, at least,
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起碼每個故事都和一個男人有關,
05:30
putting chili powder in her vagina,
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把辣椒粉放進她的陰道
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one man taking a cigarette and burning her,
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有的男人用香菸燙她
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one man whipping her.
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有的鞭打她
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We are living among those men: they're our brothers, fathers,
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這些男人就在我們當中:有些我們的兄弟,父親
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uncles, cousins, all around us.
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舅舅,親戚們,就在我們的身邊,
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And we are silent about them.
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而我們卻保持緘默。
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We think it is easy money.
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我們認為這錢好賺
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We think it is shortcut.
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是條捷徑
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We think the person likes to do what she's doing.
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我們認為這女孩樂意接受這麼做。
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But the extra bonuses that she gets
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但這女孩得到的,
05:57
is various infections, sexually transmitted infections,
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卻是各種感染與性病,
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HIV, AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhea, you name it,
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包含HIV, 愛滋病,梅毒,及各種病,
06:03
substance abuse, drugs, everything under the sun.
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還有毒品與藥物濫用,
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And one day she gives up on you and me,
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當有一天她對這世界放棄了希望
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because we have no options for her.
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因為她沒有任何選擇,
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And therefore she starts normalizing this exploitation.
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於是她開始接受這樣的剝削是正常的,
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She believes, "Yes, this is it, this is what my destiny is about."
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她相信"是的,就是這樣,這就是我命中注定的人生"
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And this is normal, to get raped by 100 men a day.
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一天被一百個男人輪暴是正常的,
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And it's abnormal to live in a shelter.
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住在庇護所是不對的
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It's abnormal to get rehabilitated.
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要康復是不正常的。
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It's in that context that I work.
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這就是我工作的內容與環境,
06:32
It's in that context that I rescue children.
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我救的這些孩子來自於這樣的環境
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I've rescued children as young as three years,
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我拯救過三歲的孩童,
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and I've rescued women as old as 40 years.
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也拯救過四十歲的婦女,
06:44
When I rescued them, one of the biggest challenges I had
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當我去救她們時,對我最大的挑戰
06:47
was where do I begin.
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是我不知從何開始,
06:51
Because I had lots of them
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因為這樣的受害者太多了,
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who were already HIV infected.
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多數已感染了HIV病毒,
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One third of the people I rescue
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我所救過的有三分之一
07:01
are HIV positive.
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都是HIV帶原者
07:04
And therefore my challenge was to
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因此我的挑戰是,
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understand how can I get out
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去理解我該如何從這樣的狀態
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the power from this pain.
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與痛苦跳脫出來
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And for me, I was my greatest experience.
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對我而言,我自身的經驗
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Understanding my own self,
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讓我了解我自己
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understanding my own pain,
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了解我自己的傷痛
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my own isolation,
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我自己的被隔離感
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was my greatest teacher.
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這些經驗是我最好的老師。
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Because what we did with these girls
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面對這些女孩們,
07:29
is to understand their potential.
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我們所做的就是去發掘她們的潛力。
07:32
You see a girl here who is trained as a welder.
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你看到這女孩接受培訓成為焊接師
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She works for a very big company,
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她在一個大型企業工作,
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a workshop in Hyderabad,
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那是一個在海德拉巴
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making furnitures.
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專門製造傢俱的工廠。
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She earns around 12,000 rupees.
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每個月收入大約一萬兩千元盧比
07:47
She is an illiterate girl,
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她不識字,
07:49
trained, skilled as a welder.
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經過培訓成為技術純熟的焊接師,
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Why welding and why not computers?
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為何是焊接而不是電腦?
07:57
We felt, one of the things that these girls had
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我們認為,這些女孩所擁有的
08:02
is immense amount of courage.
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是無可限量的勇氣
08:06
They did not have any pardas inside their body,
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她們沒有過多的顧慮
08:10
hijabs inside themselves;
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或者自我束縛
08:13
they've crossed the barrier of it.
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她們已經跨越了那道屏障
08:15
And therefore they could fight in a male-dominated world,
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因此她們可以在男性主導的世界中
08:19
very easily, and not feel very shy about it.
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很容易、也很自然的找到自己的定位。
08:23
We have trained girls as carpenters,
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我們訓練一些女孩成為木匠師傅
08:26
as masons,
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或是石匠師
08:28
as security guards, as cab drivers.
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或是保全、計程車司機
08:31
And each one of them are excelling
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每個人都在自己的領域裡
08:35
in their chosen field,
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表現優異。
08:37
gaining confidence, restoring dignity,
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變得有自信、找回自我尊嚴。
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and building hopes in their own lives.
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並為她們自己的生命建立希望。
08:44
These girls are also working in big construction companies
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這些女孩也在大型建築公司裡工作,
08:48
like Ram-ki construction, as masons, full-time masons.
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例如Ram-Ki建築公司裡擔任全職的工作。
08:54
What has been my challenge?
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我的挑戰是什麼?
08:58
My challenge has not been the traffickers who beat me up.
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我的挑戰不在於來自曾經虐待過我的性奴隸販子,
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I've been beaten up more than 14 times in my life.
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我這生已被打過超過14次,
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I can't hear from my right ear.
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我右耳已聽不見,
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I've lost a staff of mine who was murdered
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我的一位員工在救援過程中
09:13
while on a rescue.
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被謀殺了
09:16
My biggest challenge
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我最大的挑戰
09:18
is society.
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是這個社會
09:20
It's you and me.
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是你和我。
09:23
My biggest challenge is your blocks to accept these victims
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最大的挑戰是你阻擋了接納這些受害者的管道
09:27
as our own.
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不承認她們是我們的一分子
09:30
A very supportive friend of mine,
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我的一位好朋友
09:33
a well-wisher of mine,
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她非常支持我
09:36
used to give me every month, 2,000 rupees for vegetables.
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經常每個月給我2000盧比買菜
09:40
When her mother fell sick she said,
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當她母親生病時,她和我說:
09:42
"Sunitha, you have so much of contacts.
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蘇妮莎,妳認識這麼多人
09:44
Can you get somebody in my house to work,
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可以找個人來幫我工作
09:47
so that she can look after my mother?"
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並可以照顧我母親嗎?
09:49
And there is a long pause.
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然後停頓了很久
09:51
And then she says, "Not one of our girls."
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她接著說:"不要是這些女孩"
09:55
It's very fashionable to talk about human trafficking,
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在這麼舒適有空調的空間裡
09:58
in this fantastic A-C hall.
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談論性奴隸問題是個挺時尚的事,
10:01
It's very nice for discussion, discourse,
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無論是透過研討、對談
10:05
making films and everything.
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或者拍成影片等等,
10:07
But it is not nice to bring them to our homes.
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但把她們帶回家就不妥當了,
10:11
It's not nice to give them employment in our factories, our companies.
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給她們工作機會,在企業裡工作就不妥當了,
10:17
It's not nice for our children to study with their children.
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讓她們和我們的孩子一起念書就不妥當了,
10:21
There it ends.
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這事就這樣結束。
10:23
That's my biggest challenge.
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這是我最大的挑戰。
10:25
If I'm here today, I'm here not only as Sunitha Krishnan.
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我今天站在這裡,不只是因為我是蘇妮莎克什娜
10:29
I'm here as a voice of the victims and survivors of human trafficking.
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而是作為性奴隸受害者發聲的代表,
10:34
They need your compassion.
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她們需要你們的同理心
10:37
They need your empathy.
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她們需要你們的關懷。
10:39
They need, much more than anything else,
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她們需要太多太多,
10:41
your acceptance.
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更需要你們的接納。
10:45
Many times when I talk to people,
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很多時候我和朋友談
10:47
I keep telling them one thing:
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一直告訴他們一件事:
10:49
don't tell me hundred ways
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別告訴我數百個
10:52
how you cannot respond to this problem.
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你不能解決這問題的藉口
10:55
Can you ply your mind for that one way
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能不能就敞開心胸尋找到
10:58
that you can respond to the problem?
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那一個可以解決問題的方法?
11:01
And that's what I'm here for,
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這是為何我在這裡。
11:03
asking for your support,
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大聲呼籲妳們的支持
11:05
demanding for your support,
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要求妳們的支持,
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requesting for your support.
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懇求妳們的支持。
11:09
Can you break your culture of silence?
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你們可以打破長久以來的沉默麼?
11:12
Can you speak to at least two persons about this story?
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妳們可以至少告訴一兩個人這樣的故事麼?
11:16
Tell them this story. Convince them to tell the story to another two persons.
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告訴他們,說服他們去告訴另外兩個人。
11:21
I'm not asking you all to become Mahatma Gandhis
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我不是要求大家成為甘地
11:23
or Martin Luther Kings, or Medha Patkars,
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或馬丁路德金,或梅哈帕卡,
11:25
or something like that.
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或類似的人,
11:27
I'm asking you, in your limited world,
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我只希望,你們能在自己的空間裡
11:30
can you open your minds? Can you open your hearts?
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打開心扉嗎?
11:33
Can you just encompass these people too?
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能不能就接納這些人?
11:37
Because they are also a part of us.
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因為她們也是我們的一份子,
11:40
They are also part of this world.
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也是世界的一份子,
11:42
I'm asking you, for these children,
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我請求你們,為了這些孩子,
11:46
whose faces you see, they're no more.
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看看這些臉龐,他們已經不在這世界上了,
11:48
They died of AIDS last year.
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他們去年已死於愛滋病。
11:51
I'm asking you to help them,
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我請求你們幫助她們,
11:55
accept as human beings --
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接納她們擁有人的尊嚴,
11:58
not as philanthropy, not as charity,
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不僅是以仁愛慈善的立場,
12:01
but as human beings who deserve all our support.
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她們值得得到應有的人道關懷與尊重。
12:05
I'm asking you this because no child, no human being,
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我希望大家這麼做,是因為沒有任何一個孩子,
12:09
deserves what these children have gone through.
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或人類是應該承受她們所經歷的遭遇。
12:12
Thank you.
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謝謝
12:14
(Applause)
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