Megan Washington: Why I live in mortal dread of public speaking

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Prevodilac: Anca Dimovska Lektor: Mile Živković
00:12
I didn't know when I agreed to do this
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Nisam znala kad sam pristajala na ovo
00:16
whether I was expected to talk or to sing.
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da li se od mene očekuje da pričam ili pevam.
00:22
But when I was told that the topic was language,
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Ali kad mi je rečeno da je tema jezik,
00:27
I felt that I had to speak about something for a moment.
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osetila sam da moram da pričam o nečemu na trenutak.
00:32
I have a problem.
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Ja imam problem.
00:36
It's not the worst thing in the world.
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Nije to najgora stvar na svetu.
00:38
I'm fine.
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Dobro sam ja.
00:39
I'm not on fire.
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Ne gorim.
00:41
I know that other people in the world
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Znam da drugi ljudi na svetu
00:43
have far worse things to deal with,
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imaju mnogo veće probleme,
00:47
but for me, language and music are
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ali za mene, jezik i muzika su
00:53
inextricably linked through this one thing.
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neraspletivo povezani kroz jednu stvar.
00:57
And the thing is that I have a stutter.
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A to je da ja mucam.
01:05
It might seem curious given that I spend
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Možda to zvuči čudno s obzirom da provodim
01:08
a lot of my life on the stage.
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dosta vremena na sceni.
01:11
One would assume that I'm comfortable
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Neko bi rekao da mi je prijatno
01:14
in the public sphere and comfortable here,
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u javnosti i da mi je ovde prijatno,
01:17
speaking to you guys.
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dok pričam sa vama.
01:19
But the truth is that I've spent my life up until this point
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Ali je istina da sam provela svoj život do ovog trenutka
01:24
and including this point, living in mortal dread
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i uključujući ovaj trenutak u smrtnom strahu
01:28
of public speaking.
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od govora u javnosti.
01:32
Public singing, whole different thing. (Laughter)
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Pevanje u javnosti, skroz druga stvar. (Smeh)
01:36
But we'll get to that in a moment.
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Ali doći ćemo uskoro i do toga.
01:40
I've never really talked about it before so explicitly.
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Nisam nikad ranije eksplicitno pričala o tome.
01:46
I think that that's because I've always lived in hope
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Mislim da je to zato što sam uvek živela u nadi
01:48
that when I was a grown-up,
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da kada odrastem,
01:51
I wouldn't have one.
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neću da mucam.
01:57
I sort of lived with this idea that when I'm grown,
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Živela sam sa tom idejom da ću kada odrastem,
02:00
I'll have learned to speak French,
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da naučim da pričam francuski,
02:03
and when I'm grown, I'll learn how to manage my money,
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i da ću kada odrastem, da naučim kako sa novcem,
02:07
and when I'm grown, I won't have a stutter,
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i kada odrastem, neću da mucam.
02:09
and then I'll be able to public speak and maybe be the prime minister
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i onda ću moći da govorim u javnosti, i možda postanem premijer
02:11
and anything's possible and, you know.
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i znate, sve je moguće.
02:15
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:18
So I can talk about it now
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Mogu o tome sad da govorim
02:21
because I've reached this point, where —
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jer sam dostigla tačku gde ja -
02:25
I mean, I'm 28.
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mislim, imam 28 godina.
02:29
I'm pretty sure that I'm grown now.
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Prilično sam sigurna da sam odrasla.
02:31
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:33
And I'm an adult woman
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I ja sam odrasla žena
02:35
who spends her life as a performer,
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koja provodi život kao izvođač,
02:39
with a speech impediment.
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sa govornom manom.
02:42
So, I might as well come clean about it.
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Tako da mogu i otvoreno o tome.
02:46
There are some interesting angles to having a stutter.
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Ima nekih zanimljivih stvari kad mucaš.
02:50
For me, the worst thing that can happen
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Najgora stvar za mene koja može da se dogodi je
02:54
is meeting another stutterer.
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da sretnem drugu osobu koja muca.
02:57
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:00
This happened to me in Hamburg, when
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Ovo mi se desilo u Hamburgu,
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this guy, we met and he said,
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kada je jedan momak, sreli smo se i rekao je,
03:05
"Hello, m-m-m-my name is Joe,"
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"Zdravo, m-m-m-m-moje ime je Džo,"
03:09
and I said, "Oh, hello, m-m-m-my name is Meg."
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i ja sam rekla, "O zdravo, m-m-m-moje ime je Meg."
03:13
Imagine my horror when I realized
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Zamislite moj užas kad sam shvatila
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he thought I was making fun of him.
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da je on mislio da ga ismevam.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:24
People think I'm drunk all the time.
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Ljudi misle da sam stalno pijana.
03:29
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:32
People think that I've forgotten their name
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Misle da sam im zaboravila ime.
03:36
when I hesitate before saying it.
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kad oklevam pre nego što izgovorim.
03:40
And it is a very weird thing, because
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I to je jako čudno, jer
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proper nouns are the worst.
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su vlastite imenice najgore.
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If I'm going to use the word "Wednesday" in a sentence,
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Ako koristim reč "sreda" u rečenici,
03:51
and I'm coming up to the word,
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i dolazim do te reči,
03:54
and I can feel that I'm going to stutter or something,
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i osećam da ću da zamucam ili tako nešto,
03:57
I can change the word to "tomorrow,"
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mogu da promenim reč u "sutra",
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or "the day after Tuesday,"
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ili u "dan posle utorka",
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or something else.
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ili nešto drugo.
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It's clunky, but you can get away with it,
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Nezgodno je, ali možeš sa tim da se izvučeš,
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because over time I've developed this
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jer sam tokom vremena razvila ovaj
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loophole method of using speech
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metod izgovora gde koristim jezik
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where right at the last minute you
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gdenu poslednjem minutu
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change the thing and you trick your brain.
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promeniš reč da prevariš svoj mozak.
04:24
But with people's names, you can't change them.
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Ali imena ljudi ne možete da menjate.
04:27
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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When I was singing a lot of jazz,
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Kada sam dosta pevala dosta džez,
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I worked a lot with a pianist whose name was Steve.
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radila sam sa pijanistom koji se zvao Stiv.
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As you can probably gather,
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Kao što možete i da pretpostavite,
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S's and T's, together or independently,
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"S" i "T", zajedno ili odvojeno,
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are my kryptonite.
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su moj kriptonit.
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But I would have to introduce the band
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Ali morala sam da predstavim bend
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over this rolling vamp,
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sa ovom svojom improvizacijom koja se ponavlja,
04:54
and when I got around to Steve,
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i kada dođem do Stiva,
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I'd often find myself stuck on the "St."
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često se zaglavim kod "St".
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And it was a bit awkward and uncomfortable and it totally kills the vibe.
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I bilo je čudno i neprijatno i potpuno ubije atmosferu.
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So after a few instances of this,
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I posle par ovakvih situacija,
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Steve happily became "Seve,"
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Stiv je na sreću postao "Siv",
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and we got through it that way. (Laughter)
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i tako smo to rešili. (Smeh)
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I've had a lot of therapy,
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Imala sam puno terapije,
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and a common form of treatment is to use
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ustaljeni oblik lečenja je da se koristi
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this technique that's called smooth speech,
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tehnika koja se zove umiljati govor,
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which is where you almost sing everything that you say.
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gde se skoro pa peva sve što se kaže.
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You kind of join everything together in this
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Kao da sve spojiš na taj
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very singsong, kindergarten teacher way,
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pevljiv način vaspitačice,
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and it makes you sound very serene, like you've had lots of Valium,
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i čini da zvučiš vrlo smireno, kao da si uzeo dosta valijuma,
05:47
and everything is calm. (Laughter)
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i sve je mirno. (Smeh)
05:51
That's not actually me.
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To u suštini nisam ja.
05:54
And I do use that. I do.
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I ja ovo koristim. Da.
05:57
I use it when I have to be on panel shows,
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Koristim ovo kad sam u nekom panel šou,
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or when I have to do radio interviews,
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ili kad radim intervju na radiju,
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when the economy of airtime is paramount.
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kad je ušteda vremena u etru najvažnija.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
06:15
I get through it that way for my job.
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Na ovaj način to odradim zbog mog posla.
06:20
But as an artist who feels that their work
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Ali kao umetnik koji oseća da je njegov rad
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is based solely on a platform of honesty
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je jedino zasnovan na platformi iskrenosti
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and being real,
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i osećaja stvarnosti,
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that feels often like cheating.
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ovo se često čini kao varanje.
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Which is why before I sing, I wanted to tell you
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i zato sam htela da vam kažem, pre nego što pevam
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what singing means to me.
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šta mi znači pevanje.
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It's more than making nice sounds,
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To je više od stvaranja lepih zvukova,
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and it's more than making nice songs.
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i više od stvaranja lepih pesama.
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It's more than feeling known, or understood.
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Više od toga da se osećaš poznato, ili da si shvaćen.
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It's more than making you feel the things that I feel.
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To je više od osećanja stvari koje ja osećam.
07:04
It's not about mythology,
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Nije to zbog mitologije,
07:07
or mythologizing myself to you.
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ili stvaranja mitologije od sebe.
07:12
Somehow, through some miraculous
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Nekako, kroz neku čudesnu
07:17
synaptic function of the human brain,
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sinaptičku funkciju ljudskog mozga,
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it's impossible to stutter when you sing.
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nemoguće je da mucaš kad pevaš.
07:27
And when I was younger, that was a method of treatment
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Kad sam bila mlađa, to je bio metod mog lečenja
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that worked very well for me,
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koji je kod mene jako dobro delovao,
07:33
singing, so I did it a lot.
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pevanje, pa sam ja to dosta radila.
07:39
And that's why I'm here today.
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I zato sam danas ovde.
07:43
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
07:48
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
07:54
Singing for me is sweet relief.
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Za mene je pevanje slatko olakšanje.
07:58
It is the only time when I feel fluent.
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To je jedino vreme kad se osećam razgovetno.
08:07
It is the only time when what comes out of my mouth
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To je jedino vreme da ono što mi izađe iz usta
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is comprehensively exactly what I intended.
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je sveobuhvatno tačno ono što sam naumila.
08:13
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:15
So I know that this is a TED Talk,
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Znam da je ovo TED govor,
08:18
but now i'm going to TED sing.
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ali sad ću da TED pevam.
08:22
This is a song that I wrote last year.
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Ovo je pesma koju sam napisala prošle godine.
08:23
Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Hvala vam mnogo, Hvala vam.
08:26
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
08:39
(Piano)
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(Klavir)
08:54
♪ I would be a beauty ♪
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♪ Bila bih lepotica♪
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♪ but my nose ♪
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♪ ali moj nos ♪
09:02
♪ is slightly too big ♪
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♪ je malkice veći ♪
09:05
♪ for my face ♪
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♪ za moje lice ♪
09:09
♪ And I would be a dreamer ♪
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♪ I bila bih sanjar ♪
09:13
♪ but my dream ♪
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♪ ali moj san ♪
09:16
♪ is slightly too big ♪
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♪ je malkice veći ♪
09:20
♪ for this space ♪
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♪ za ovaj prostor ♪
09:23
♪ And I would be an angel ♪
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♪ I bila bih anđeo ♪
09:27
♪ but my halo ♪
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♪ ali moj oreol ♪
09:31
♪ it pales in the glow ♪
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♪ bledi u sjaju ♪
09:34
♪ of your grace ♪
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♪ tvoje milosti ♪
09:38
♪ And I would be a joker ♪
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♪ I bila bih džoker♪
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♪ but that card looks silly when you play ♪
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♪ ali ta karta izgleda smešno kad ti igraš ♪
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♪ your ace ♪
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♪ sa svojim asom ♪
10:07
♪ I'd like to know ♪
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♪ Volela bih da znam ♪
10:11
♪ Are there stars in hell? ♪
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♪ Ima li zvezda u paklu? ♪
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♪ And I'd like to know ♪
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♪ I volela bih da znam ♪
10:18
♪ know if you can tell ♪
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♪ da znam ako znaš ♪
10:22
♪ that you make me lose everything I know ♪
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♪ da zbog tebe gubim sve što znam ♪
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♪ That I cannot choose to or not let go ♪
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♪ da ne mogu da izaberem da li da odustanem ili ne ♪
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♪ And I'd stay forever ♪
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♪ A ostala bih zauvek ♪
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♪ but my home ♪
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♪ ali moj dom ♪
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♪ is slightly too far ♪
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♪ je malkice predaleko ♪
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♪ from this place ♪
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♪ od ovog mesta ♪
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♪ And I swear I tried to ♪
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♪ I kunem se da sam pokušala ♪
11:08
♪ slow it down ♪
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♪ da usporim ♪
11:11
♪ when I am walking at your pace ♪
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♪ kada hodam u tvom ritmu ♪
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♪ But all I could think ♪
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♪ Ali jedino sam mogla da mislim ♪
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♪ idling through the cities ♪
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♪ na prazan hod kroz grad ♪
11:26
♪ do I look pretty in the rain? ♪
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♪ Izgledam li lepo na kiši? ♪
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♪ And I don't know how someone ♪
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♪ I ne znam kako neko ♪
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♪ quite so lovely ♪
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♪ tako drag ♪
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♪ makes me feel ugly ♪
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♪ čini da se osećam ružnom ♪
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♪ So much shame ♪
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♪ mnogo srama ♪
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♪ And I'd like to know ♪
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♪ I volela bih da znam ♪
11:59
♪ Are there stars in hell? ♪
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♪ Ima li zvezda u paklu ♪
12:02
♪ And I'd like to know ♪
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♪ I volela bih da znam ♪
12:06
♪ know if you can tell ♪
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♪ da znam da li znaš ♪
12:10
♪ that you make me lose everything I know ♪
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♪ da me činiš da gubim sve što znam ♪
12:17
♪ that I cannot choose to or not let go ♪
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♪ da ne mogu da izaberem da li da odustanem ili ne ♪
12:52
Thank you very much. (Applause)
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Hvala vam puno. (Aplauz)
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