Paula Johnson: His and hers ... healthcare

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Prevodilac: Ivana Krivokuća Lektor: Tijana Mihajlović
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Some of my most wonderful memories of childhood
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Neke od mojih najlepših uspomena iz detinjstva
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are of spending time with my grandmother, Mamar,
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vezane su za vreme provedeno sa mojom bakom Mamar,
00:18
in our four-family home in Brooklyn, New York.
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u našoj kući sa četiri stana u Bruklinu u Njujorku.
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Her apartment was an oasis.
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Njen stan je bio oaza.
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It was a place where I could sneak a cup of coffee,
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Bilo je to mesto gde sam mogla da prošvercujem kafu,
00:27
which was really warm milk with just a touch of caffeine.
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što je u stvari bilo toplo mleko sa mrvicom kofeina.
00:31
She loved life.
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Volela je život.
00:34
And although she worked in a factory,
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Iako je radila u fabrici,
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she saved her pennies and she traveled to Europe.
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prikupljala je sitninu i otputovala u Evropu.
00:39
And I remember poring over those pictures with her
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Sećam se kako sam razgledala te slike sa njom,
00:43
and then dancing with her to her favorite music.
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a zatim smo igrale uz njenu omiljenu muziku.
00:47
And then, when I was eight and she was 60,
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Onda, kada sam imala 8 godina, a ona 60,
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something changed.
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nešto se promenilo.
00:54
She no longer worked or traveled.
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Više nije radila niti je putovala.
00:56
She no longer danced.
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Više nije plesala.
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There were no more coffee times.
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Nije bilo više trenutaka uz kafu.
01:00
My mother missed work and took her to doctors
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Moja majka je izlazila sa posla i vodila je kod doktora
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who couldn't make a diagnosis.
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koji nisu mogli da odrede dijagnozu.
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And my father, who worked at night, would spend every afternoon with her,
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Moj otac, koji je radio noću, provodio bi svako popodne sa njom,
01:10
just to make sure she ate.
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samo da se pobrine da jede.
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Her care became all-consuming for our family.
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Briga o njoj je potpuno obuzela našu porodicu.
01:18
And by the time a diagnosis was made,
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U trenutku kada je dijagnoza doneta,
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she was in a deep spiral.
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stanje joj se već dosta pogoršalo.
01:22
Now many of you will recognize her symptoms.
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Mnogi među vama ćete prepoznati njene simptome.
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My grandmother had depression.
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Moja baka je imala depresiju,
01:29
A deep, life-altering depression,
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duboku depresiju koja menja život,
01:32
from which she never recovered.
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od koje se nikada nije oporavila.
01:35
And back then, so little was known about depression.
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U to vreme se tako malo znalo o depresiji.
01:39
But even today, 50 years later,
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Čak i danas, 50 godina kasnije,
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there's still so much more to learn.
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toliko toga još imamo da naučimo.
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Today, we know that women are 70 percent more likely
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Danas znamo da žene imaju 70 posto veće izglede
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to experience depression over their lifetimes
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da dožive depresiju tokom života
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compared with men.
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u poređenju sa muškarcima.
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And even with this high prevalence,
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Čak i sa tom visokom rasprostranjenošću,
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women are misdiagnosed between 30 and 50 percent of the time.
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žene dobijaju pogrešnu dijagnozu u 30 do 50 odsto slučajeva.
02:05
Now we know that women are more likely
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Sada znamo da žene imaju veće šanse
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to experience the symptoms of fatigue, sleep disturbance,
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da dožive simptome premora, poremećaja sna,
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pain and anxiety compared with men.
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bola i anksioznosti u poređenju sa muškarcima.
02:16
And these symptoms are often overlooked
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Ovi simptomi se često ne prepoznaju
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as symptoms of depression.
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kao simptomi depresije.
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And it isn't only depression in which these sex differences occur,
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Ove polne razlike ne javljaju se samo kod depresije,
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but they occur across so many diseases.
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već i kod mnogih drugih oboljenja.
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So it's my grandmother's struggles
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Stoga me je borba moje bake
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that have really led me on a lifelong quest.
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podstakla na životnu potragu.
02:35
And today, I lead a center in which the mission
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Danas predvodim centar
čija je misija da otkrije zašto se te polne razlike javljaju
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is to discover why these sex differences occur
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02:42
and to use that knowledge
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i da upotrebi to znanje
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to improve the health of women.
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da bi se poboljšalo zdravlje žena.
02:47
Today, we know that every cell has a sex.
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Danas znamo da svaka ćelija ima pol.
02:51
Now, that's a term coined by the Institute of Medicine.
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To je termin koji je skovao Institut za medicinu.
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And what it means is that men and women are different
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To znači da su muškarci i žene različiti
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down to the cellular and molecular levels.
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sve do ćelijskih i molekularnih nivoa.
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It means that we're different across all of our organs.
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To znači da se svi naši organi razlikuju,
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From our brains to our hearts, our lungs, our joints.
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od mozga do srca, pluća i zglobova.
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Now, it was only 20 years ago
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Pre svega 20 godina,
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that we hardly had any data on women's health
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jedva da smo imali bilo kakve podatke o zdravlju žena
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beyond our reproductive functions.
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osim reproduktivnih funkcija.
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But then in 1993,
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Međutim, 1993. godine,
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the NIH Revitalization Act was signed into law.
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stupio je na snagu Akt o revitalizaciji Nacionalnih instituta za zdravlje.
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And what this law did was it mandated
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Ovaj zakon je nalagao
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that women and minorities be included in clinical trials
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da žene i manjine budu uključeni u kliničkim ispitivanjima
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that were funded by the National Institutes of Health.
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koje su finansirali Nacionalni instituti za zdravlje.
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And in many ways, the law has worked.
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U mnogo čemu, zakon je delovao.
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Women are now routinely included in clinical studies,
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Žene su sada redovno obuhvaćene u kliničkim istraživanjima
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and we've learned that there are major differences
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i saznali smo da postoje velike razlike
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in the ways that women and men
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u tome kako žene i muškarci
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experience disease.
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doživljavaju bolesti.
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But remarkably,
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Ipak, što je neobično,
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what we have learned about these differences is often overlooked.
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saznali smo da se ove razlike često previde.
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So, we have to ask ourselves the question:
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Dakle, moramo postaviti sebi pitanje
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Why leave women's health to chance?
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zašto prepustiti zdravlje žena slučaju,
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And we're leaving it to chance in two ways.
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a prepuštamo ga slučaju na dva načina.
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The first is that there is so much more to learn
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Prvi je da ima još toliko toga što treba saznati,
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and we're not making the investment
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a ne ulažemo
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in fully understanding the extent of these sex differences.
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u potpuno razumevanje opsega ovih polnih razlika.
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And the second is that we aren't taking what we have learned,
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Drugi je da ne usvajamo ono što smo saznali
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and routinely applying it in clinical care.
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i to ne primenjujemo redovno u kliničkoj nezi.
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We are just not doing enough.
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Jednostavno ne činimo dovoljno.
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So, I'm going to share with you three examples
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Podeliću sa vama tri primera
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of where sex differences have impacted the health of women,
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gde su polne razlike uticale na zdravlje žena
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and where we need to do more.
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i gde je potrebno da učinimo više.
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Let's start with heart disease.
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Počnimo sa bolestima srca.
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It's the number one killer of women in the United States today.
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To je ubica žena broj jedan u Sjedinjenim Državama danas.
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This is the face of heart disease.
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Ovo je lice srčane bolesti.
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Linda is a middle-aged woman,
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Linda je žena srednjih godina
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who had a stent placed in one of the arteries
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koja je imala stent u jednoj od arterija
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going to her heart.
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koje idu ka srcu.
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When she had recurring symptoms she went back to her doctor.
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Kad je dobila simptome koji se ponavljaju, otišla je ponovo kod doktora.
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Her doctor did the gold standard test:
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Njen doktor je obavio test „zlatni standard“,
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a cardiac catheterization.
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kateterizaciju srca.
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It showed no blockages.
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Pokazalo se da nema začepljenja.
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Linda's symptoms continued.
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Lindini simptomi su se nastavili.
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She had to stop working.
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Morala je da prestane da radi.
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And that's when she found us.
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Tada je pronašla nas.
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When Linda came to us, we did another cardiac catheterization
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Kada je Linda došla kod nas, sproveli smo još jednu kateterizaciju srca
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and this time, we found clues.
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i ovoga puta smo našli naznake.
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But we needed another test
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Međutim, bio nam je potreban još jedan test
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to make the diagnosis.
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da bismo došli do dijagnoze.
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So we did a test called an intracoronary ultrasound,
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Stoga smo obavili test zvani intravaskularni ultrazvuk,
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where you use soundwaves to look at the artery
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gde se koriste zvučni talasi da bi se arterija pregledala iznutra.
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from the inside out.
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05:44
And what we found
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Otkrili smo
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was that Linda's disease didn't look like
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da Lindino oboljenje nije izgledalo
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the typical male disease.
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kao tipično muško oboljenje.
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The typical male disease looks like this.
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Tipično muško oboljenje izgleda ovako.
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There's a discrete blockage or stenosis.
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Postoji izdvojena zapušenost ili stenoza.
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Linda's disease, like the disease of so many women,
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Lindino oboljenje, kao i oboljenje kod mnogo žena,
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looks like this.
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izgleda ovako.
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The plaque is laid down more evenly, more diffusely
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Plak oblaže ravnomernije,
difuznije duž arterije i teže ga je uočiti.
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along the artery, and it's harder to see.
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06:11
So for Linda, and for so many women,
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Zato za Lindu, kao i za mnogo žena,
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the gold standard test wasn't gold.
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test „zlatni standard“ nije zlatan.
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Now, Linda received the right treatment.
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Linda je dobila odgovarajuće lečenje.
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She went back to her life and, fortunately, today
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Vratila se svom životu i, srećom,
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she is doing well.
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danas joj je dobro.
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But Linda was lucky.
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Međutim, Linda je imala sreće.
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She found us, we found her disease.
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Pronašla je nas, mi smo pronašli njeno oboljenje.
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But for too many women, that's not the case.
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To nije slučaj kod isuviše mnogo žena.
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We have the tools.
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Imamo sredstva.
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We have the technology to make the diagnosis.
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Imamo tehnologiju za donošenje dijagnoze.
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But it's all too often that these sex diffferences
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Ipak, te polne razlike se prečesto previđaju.
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are overlooked.
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06:44
So what about treatment?
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Šta je sa lečenjem?
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A landmark study that was published two years ago
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Značajna studija objavljena pre dve godine
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asked the very important question:
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postavila je veoma važno pitanje:
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What are the most effective treatments for heart disease in women?
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koji su najdelotvorniji tretmani bolesti srca kod žena?
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The authors looked at papers written over a 10-year period,
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Autori su pregledali papire ispisane tokom perioda od 10 godina
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and hundreds had to be thrown out.
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i stotine je moralo da bude bačeno.
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And what they found out was that of those that were tossed out,
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Otkrili su da je, od onih koji su odbačeni,
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65 percent were excluded
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65 posto izostavljeno
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because even though women were included in the studies,
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jer, iako su žene obuhvaćene studijom,
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the analysis didn't differentiate between women and men.
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analiza nije pravila razliku između žena i muškaraca.
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What a lost opportunity.
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Kakva propuštena prilika.
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The money had been spent
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Novac je potrošen,
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and we didn't learn how women fared.
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a nismo saznali šta se desilo sa ženama.
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And these studies could not contribute one iota
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Ove studije nisu ni mrvicu doprinele
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to the very, very important question,
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vrlo, vrlo važnom pitanju -
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what are the most effective treatments
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koji su najdelotvorniji tretmani
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for heart disease in women?
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za bolesti srca kod žena?
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I want to introduce you to Hortense, my godmother,
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Želim da vam predstavim Hortens, moju kumu,
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Hung Wei, a relative of a colleague,
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Hung Vej, rođaku jednog kolege,
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and somebody you may recognize --
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i nekog koga možda prepoznajete,
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Dana, Christopher Reeve's wife.
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Dejnu, ženu Kristofera Riva.
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All three women have something very important in common.
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Ove tri žene imaju nešto zajedničko što je veoma važno.
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All three were diagnosed with lung cancer,
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Sve tri su dobile dijagnozu raka pluća,
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the number one cancer killer of women
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ubice žena broj jedan među vrstama raka
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in the United States today.
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u Sjedinjenim Državama danas.
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All three were nonsmokers.
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Sve tri su bile nepušači.
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Sadly, Dana and Hung Wei died of their disease.
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Nažalost, Dejna i Hung Vej su preminule zbog svoje bolesti.
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Today, what we know is that women who are nonsmokers are three times more likely
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Danas znamo da žene nepušači imaju tri puta veću šansu
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to be diagnosed with lung cancer than are men
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da dobiju dijagnozu raka pluća
nego muškarci koji su nepušači.
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who are nonsmokers.
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08:28
Now interestingly, when women are diagnosed with lung cancer,
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Zanimljivo je da, kada je ženama dijagnostikovan rak pluća,
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their survival tends to be better than that of men.
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njihovo preživljavanje obično bude bolje nego kod muškaraca.
08:35
Now, here are some clues.
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Evo nekih nagoveštaja.
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Our investigators have found that there are
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Naši istraživači su otkrili da postoje izvesni geni
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certain genes in the lung tumor cells of both women and men.
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u ćelijama tumora na plućima kod žena i kod muškaraca.
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And these genes are activated
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Te gene aktivira
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mainly by estrogen.
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uglavnom estrogen.
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And when these genes are over-expressed,
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Kada su ti geni previše izraženi,
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it's associated with improved survival
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to je u vezi sa poboljšanim preživljavanjem
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only in young women.
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samo kod mladih žena.
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Now this is a very early finding
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Ovo je skorašnji nalaz
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and we don't yet know whether it has relevance
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i još ne znamo da li je od značaja
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to clinical care.
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za kliničku negu.
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But it's findings like this that may provide hope
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Ipak, nalazi poput ovoga mogu pružiti nadu
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and may provide an opportunity to save lives
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i mogućnost za spasavanje života
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of both women and men.
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i žena i muškaraca.
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Now, let me share with you an example
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Dopustite da podelim sa vama jedan primer kako, kada uzmemo u obzir polne razlike,
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of when we do consider sex differences, it can drive the science.
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to može da pokrene nauku.
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Several years ago a new lung cancer drug
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Pre nekoliko godina, novi lek protiv raka pluća
09:21
was being evaluated,
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prolazio je kroz evaluaciju,
09:22
and when the authors looked at whose tumors shrank,
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a kada su autori razmotrili čiji su se tumori smanjili,
09:27
they found that 82 percent were women.
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otkrili su da su 82 procenta činile žene.
09:30
This led them to ask the question: Well, why?
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To ih je navelo da se zapitaju zašto je to tako.
09:33
And what they found
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Otkrili su
09:35
was that the genetic mutations that the drug targeted
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da je genetska mutacija na koju je gen usmeren
09:38
were far more common in women.
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daleko češća kod žena.
09:41
And what this has led to
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Ovo je dovelo
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is a more personalized approach
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do personalizovanijeg pristupa
09:45
to the treatment of lung cancer that also includes sex.
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u lečenju raka pluća koje podrazumeva i pol.
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This is what we can accomplish
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To je ono što možemo postići
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when we don't leave women's health to chance.
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kada ne prepustimo zdravlje žena slučaju.
09:55
We know that when you invest in research,
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Znamo da, kada uložite u istraživanje,
09:58
you get results.
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dobijate rezultate.
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Take a look at the death rate from breast cancer over time.
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Pogledajte stopu smrtnosti od raka dojke tokom vremena.
10:04
And now take a look at the death rates
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Sada pogledajte stopu smrtnosti
10:06
from lung cancer in women over time.
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od raka pluća kod žena tokom vremena.
10:09
Now let's look at the dollars invested in breast cancer --
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Hajde da sada pogledamo iznos u dolarima koji je uložen u rak dojke -
10:13
these are the dollars invested per death --
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to su dolari uloženi po smrti -
10:16
and the dollars invested in lung cancer.
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i dolare uložene u rak pluća.
10:20
Now, it's clear that our investment in breast cancer
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Jasno je da je naše ulaganje u rak dojke
10:25
has produced results.
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proizvelo rezultate.
10:27
They may not be fast enough,
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Možda nisu dovoljno brzi,
10:29
but it has produced results.
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ali je dovelo do rezultata.
10:31
We can do the same
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Možemo isto postići
10:33
for lung cancer and for every other disease.
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kod raka pluća i svake druge bolesti.
10:38
So let's go back to depression.
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Vratimo se na depresiju.
10:42
Depression is the number one cause
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Depresija je uzrok broj jedan
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of disability in women in the world today.
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za invaliditet žena u svetu danas.
10:49
Our investigators have found
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Naši istraživači su otkrili
10:51
that there are differences in the brains
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da postoje razlike u mozgu
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of women and men
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žena i muškaraca
10:54
in the areas that are connected with mood.
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u oblastima koje su povezane sa raspoloženjem.
10:57
And when you put men and women
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Kada stavite muškarce i žene
10:59
in a functional MRI scanner --
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pod skener funkcionalne MRT -
11:01
that's the kind of scanner that shows how the brain is functioning when it's activated --
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to je vrsta skenera koja pokazuje kako mozak funkcioniše kada se aktivira -
11:06
so you put them in the scanner and you expose them to stress.
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dakle, stavite ih u skener i izložite ih stresu.
11:10
You can actually see the difference.
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Možete zaista videti razliku.
11:13
And it's findings like this
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Smatramo da nalazi kao što je ovaj
11:16
that we believe hold some of the clues
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daju neke nagoveštaje
11:19
for why we see these very significant sex differences
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o tome zašto vidimo vrlo značajne polne razlike
11:23
in depression.
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kod depresije.
11:25
But even though we know
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Međutim, iako znamo
11:27
that these differences occur,
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da se ove razlike javljaju,
11:29
66 percent
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66 posto
11:32
of the brain research that begins in animals
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istraživanja mozga koja započinju na životinjama
11:36
is done in either male animals
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sprovodi se ili na mužjacima
11:38
or animals in whom the sex is not identified.
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ili na životinjama čiji pol nije ustanovljen.
11:43
So, I think we have to ask again the question:
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Dakle, mislim da ponovo treba da postavimo pitanje
11:46
Why leave women's health to chance?
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zašto da prepuštamo zdravlje žena slučaju.
11:51
And this is a question that haunts those of us
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To je pitanje koje proganja nas u oblasti nauke i medicine
11:54
in science and medicine
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11:56
who believe that we are on the verge of being able to dramatically improve
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koji smatramo da smo nadomak mogućnosti da drastično poboljšamo
12:02
the health of women.
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zdravlje žena.
12:04
We know that every cell has a sex.
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Znamo da svaka ćelija ima pol.
12:06
We know that these differences are often overlooked.
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Znamo da se te razlike često previđaju.
12:09
And therefore we know that women are not getting the full benefit
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Prema tome, znamo da žene danas ne koriste u potpunosti
12:14
of modern science and medicine today.
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savremenu nauku i medicinu.
12:17
We have the tools
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Imamo sredstva,
12:19
but we lack the collective will and momentum.
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ali nam nedostaje kolektivne volje i poleta.
12:23
Women's health is an equal rights issue
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Žensko zdravlje je problem jednakih prava
12:26
as important as equal pay.
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podjednako važan kao i jednaka zarada.
12:29
And it's an issue of the quality
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To je pitanje kvaliteta
12:31
and the integrity of science and medicine.
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i integriteta nauke i medicine.
12:35
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
12:42
So imagine the momentum we could achieve
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Zamislite zamah koji bismo postigli
12:47
in advancing the health of women
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u unapređivanju zdravlja žena
12:49
if we considered whether these sex differences were present
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ako bismo uzeli u obzir da li postoje ove polne razlike
12:52
at the very beginning of designing research.
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na samom početku osmišljavanja istraživanja,
12:55
Or if we analyzed our data by sex.
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ili kada bismo analizirali podatke prema polu.
12:59
So, people often ask me:
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Ljudi me često pitaju:
13:01
What can I do?
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„Šta mogu da učinim?“
13:03
And here's what I suggest:
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Evo šta predlažem.
13:05
First, I suggest that you think about women's health
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Najpre, predlažem da razmišljate o zdravlju žena
13:09
in the same way
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na isti način
13:11
that you think and care about other causes that are important to you.
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na koji razmišljate i brinete o drugim ciljevima koji su vam važni.
13:17
And second, and equally as important,
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Drugo, jednako važno,
13:20
that as a woman,
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jeste da kao žena
13:22
you have to ask your doctor
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morate pitati svog doktora
13:25
and the doctors who are caring for those who you love:
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i doktore koji brinu o onima koje volite:
13:30
Is this disease or treatment different in women?
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„Da li su ova bolest ili njeno lečenje drugačiji kod žena?“
13:34
Now, this is a profound question because the answer is likely yes,
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Ovo je obuhvatno pitanje jer je odgovor verovatno potvrdan,
13:38
but your doctor may not know the answer, at least not yet.
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ali vaš doktor možda još ne zna odgovor,
bar ne za sada.
13:42
But if you ask the question, your doctor will very likely
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Ipak, ako postavite pitanje, vaš doktor će verovatno
13:46
go looking for the answer.
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potražiti odgovor.
13:48
And this is so important,
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Ovo je toliko važno,
13:51
not only for ourselves,
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ne samo za nas same,
13:53
but for all of those whom we love.
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već i za sve one koje volimo,
13:55
Whether it be a mother, a daughter, a sister,
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bilo da je to majka, ćerka, sestra,
14:00
a friend or a grandmother.
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prijatelj ili baka.
14:04
It was my grandmother's suffering
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Patnja moje bake
14:06
that inspired my work
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je inspirisala moj rad
14:08
to improve the health of women.
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na poboljšanju zdravlja žena.
14:11
That's her legacy.
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To je njeno zaveštanje.
14:13
Our legacy can be to improve the health of women
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Naše zaveštanje može biti da poboljšamo zdravlje žena
14:18
for this generation
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ove generacije
14:20
and for generations to come.
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i budućih generacija.
14:23
Thank you.
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Hvala.
(Aplauz)
14:25
(Applause)
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