Paula Johnson: His and hers ... healthcare

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Translator: Nika Kotnik Reviewer: Klavdija Cernilogar
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Some of my most wonderful memories of childhood
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Nekaj mojih najlepših spominov iz otroštva
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are of spending time with my grandmother, Mamar,
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me veže na preživljanje časa z babico, Mamar,
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in our four-family home in Brooklyn, New York.
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v našem domu za štiri družine v Brooklynu, v New Yorku.
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Her apartment was an oasis.
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Njeno stanovanje je bilo oaza.
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It was a place where I could sneak a cup of coffee,
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Tam sem lahko popila skodelico kave,
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which was really warm milk with just a touch of caffeine.
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ki je bila v resnici toplo mleko s samo senco kofeina.
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She loved life.
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Ljubila je življenje.
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And although she worked in a factory,
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In čeprav je delala v tovarni, je pridno varčevala in potovala v Evropo.
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she saved her pennies and she traveled to Europe.
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00:39
And I remember poring over those pictures with her
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In spominjam se, kako sva se zatopili v fotografije
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and then dancing with her to her favorite music.
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in potem plesali na njeno najljubšo glasbo.
00:47
And then, when I was eight and she was 60,
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In potem, ko sem imela 8 let in ona 60, se je nekaj spremenilo.
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something changed.
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00:54
She no longer worked or traveled.
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Ni več delala ali potovala.
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She no longer danced.
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Ni več plesala. Nisva več pili kave.
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There were no more coffee times.
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01:00
My mother missed work and took her to doctors
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Mama je odšla z dela in jo peljala k zdravnikom,
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who couldn't make a diagnosis.
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ki niso mogli narediti diagnoze.
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And my father, who worked at night, would spend every afternoon with her,
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In moj oče, ki je delal ponoči, je bil z njo vsako popoldne,
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just to make sure she ate.
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da se je prepričal, da je jedla.
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Her care became all-consuming for our family.
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Celotna družina je skrbela zanjo.
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And by the time a diagnosis was made,
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In ko so končno postavili diagnozo, je bila globoko v začaranem krogu.
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she was in a deep spiral.
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01:22
Now many of you will recognize her symptoms.
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Veliko vas bo prepoznalo njene simptome.
01:26
My grandmother had depression.
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Moja babica je bila depresivna.
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A deep, life-altering depression,
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Globoka depresija, ki spremeni življenje, od katere si ni nikoli opomogla.
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from which she never recovered.
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01:35
And back then, so little was known about depression.
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Takrat je bilo o depresiji malo znanega.
01:39
But even today, 50 years later,
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Ampak celo danes, 50 let kasneje, se imamo še vedno veliko za naučiti.
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there's still so much more to learn.
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01:45
Today, we know that women are 70 percent more likely
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Danes vemo, da je za ženske 70 odstotkov večja verjetnost,
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to experience depression over their lifetimes
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da bodo v svojem življenju izkusile depresijo, v primerjavi z moškimi.
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compared with men.
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01:56
And even with this high prevalence,
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In celo pri tej razširjenosti
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women are misdiagnosed between 30 and 50 percent of the time.
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je pri ženskah diagnoza napačna v 30 do 50 odstotkih.
02:05
Now we know that women are more likely
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Sedaj vemo, da bodo ženske večkrat
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to experience the symptoms of fatigue, sleep disturbance,
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občutile simptome utrujenosti, motenj spanja,
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pain and anxiety compared with men.
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bolečine in anksioznosti v primerjavi z moškimi.
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And these symptoms are often overlooked
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Te simptome pogosto spregledamo kot simptome depresije.
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as symptoms of depression.
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02:21
And it isn't only depression in which these sex differences occur,
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Te razlike med spoloma se ne pojavijo samo pri depresiji,
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but they occur across so many diseases.
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ampak se pojavijo pri mnogih boleznih.
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So it's my grandmother's struggles
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Napori moje babice so me poslali na to življenjsko poslanstvo.
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that have really led me on a lifelong quest.
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02:35
And today, I lead a center in which the mission
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Danes vodim center, katerega misija
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is to discover why these sex differences occur
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je odkriti, zakaj se pojavljajo te razlike med spoloma,
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and to use that knowledge
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in uporabiti to znanje za izboljšanje zdravja žensk.
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to improve the health of women.
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02:47
Today, we know that every cell has a sex.
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Danes vemo, da ima vsaka celica spol.
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Now, that's a term coined by the Institute of Medicine.
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To je izraz, ki smo ga skovali na Inštitutu Medicine.
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And what it means is that men and women are different
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Pomeni, da se moški in ženske razlikujemo celo na celičnem in molekularnem nivoju.
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down to the cellular and molecular levels.
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03:04
It means that we're different across all of our organs.
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Pomeni, da se razlikujemo v vseh organih. V možganih, srcih, pljučih, sklepih.
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From our brains to our hearts, our lungs, our joints.
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03:14
Now, it was only 20 years ago
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Pred 20 leti smo imeli komaj kaj podatkov o zdravju žensk
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that we hardly had any data on women's health
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beyond our reproductive functions.
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razen o našem reproduktivnem delovanju.
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But then in 1993,
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Leta 1993 pa je bil sprejet NIH Revitalizacijski zakon.
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the NIH Revitalization Act was signed into law.
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03:32
And what this law did was it mandated
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In ta zakon je zahteval,
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that women and minorities be included in clinical trials
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da so ženske in manjšine vključene v klinične študije,
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that were funded by the National Institutes of Health.
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ki jih financirajo Nacionalni inštituti za zdravje.
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And in many ways, the law has worked.
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In na veliko načinov je zakon deloval.
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Women are now routinely included in clinical studies,
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Ženske sedaj rutinsko vključujejo v klinične študije
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and we've learned that there are major differences
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in naučili smo se, da obstajajo velike razlike
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in the ways that women and men
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v načinu, kako ženske in moški izkusijo bolezen.
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experience disease.
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03:57
But remarkably,
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Ampak neverjetno,
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what we have learned about these differences is often overlooked.
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kar smo se naučili o teh razlikah, je pogosto spregledano.
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So, we have to ask ourselves the question:
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Zato se moramo vprašati: zakaj prepustiti zdravje žensk naključju?
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Why leave women's health to chance?
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04:12
And we're leaving it to chance in two ways.
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In naključju ga prepuščamo na dva načina.
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The first is that there is so much more to learn
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Prvi je, da se moramo še toliko naučiti in da ne vlagamo
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and we're not making the investment
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in fully understanding the extent of these sex differences.
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v popolno razumevanje obsega teh razlik med spoloma.
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And the second is that we aren't taking what we have learned,
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In drugi je, da ne vzamemo tega, kar smo se naučili,
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and routinely applying it in clinical care.
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da bi rutinsko uporabili v klinični negi.
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We are just not doing enough.
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Enostavno tega ne počnemo dovolj.
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So, I'm going to share with you three examples
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Zato bom z vami delila tri primere,
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of where sex differences have impacted the health of women,
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kjer so razlike med spoloma vplivale na zdravje žensk,
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and where we need to do more.
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in kjer moramo storiti še več.
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Let's start with heart disease.
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Začnimo z boleznimi srca.
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It's the number one killer of women in the United States today.
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Je ubijalec žensk številka ena v ZDA.
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This is the face of heart disease.
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To je obraz srčnih bolezni.
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Linda is a middle-aged woman,
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Linda je ženska srednjih let, ki so ji namestili stent
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who had a stent placed in one of the arteries
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v eno izmed arterij, ki gredo do srca.
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going to her heart.
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05:03
When she had recurring symptoms she went back to her doctor.
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Ker so se ji simptomi ponavljali, je šla nazaj k zdravniku.
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Her doctor did the gold standard test:
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Ta je naredil zlati standardni test: srčno kateterizacijo.
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a cardiac catheterization.
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05:12
It showed no blockages.
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Ni pokazala nobenih blokad. Lindini simptomi so se nadaljevali.
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Linda's symptoms continued.
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05:16
She had to stop working.
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Morala je prenehati z delom. In takrat nas je našla.
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And that's when she found us.
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05:21
When Linda came to us, we did another cardiac catheterization
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Ko je prišla k nam, smo naredili še eno kateterizacijo
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and this time, we found clues.
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in tokrat smo našli sledi.
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But we needed another test
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A potrebovali smo še en test, da bi postavili diagnozo.
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to make the diagnosis.
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05:34
So we did a test called an intracoronary ultrasound,
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Zato smo naredili intrakoronarni ultrazvok,
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where you use soundwaves to look at the artery
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kjer z zvočnimi valovi pogledamo arterijo od znotraj navzven.
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from the inside out.
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05:44
And what we found
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Ugotovili smo, da Lindina bolezen ne izgleda kot tipična moška bolezen.
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was that Linda's disease didn't look like
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the typical male disease.
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05:51
The typical male disease looks like this.
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Tipična moška bolezen izgleda takole.
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There's a discrete blockage or stenosis.
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Tu je diskretna blokada ali stenoza.
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Linda's disease, like the disease of so many women,
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Lindina bolezen, kot bolezen mnogih žensk, izgleda takole.
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looks like this.
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The plaque is laid down more evenly, more diffusely
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Plak je položen bolj enakomerno, bolj difuzno
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along the artery, and it's harder to see.
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preko arterije in ga težje vidimo.
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So for Linda, and for so many women,
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Zato za Lindo in za mnoge ženske zlati standardni test ni bil zlat.
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the gold standard test wasn't gold.
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06:18
Now, Linda received the right treatment.
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Linda je prejela pravo zdravljenje.
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She went back to her life and, fortunately, today
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Vrnila se je k svojemu življenju in na srečo ji gre dobro.
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she is doing well.
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But Linda was lucky.
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A Linda je imela srečo. Našla je nas, mi smo našli njeno bolezen.
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She found us, we found her disease.
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But for too many women, that's not the case.
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A za preveč žensk ni tako.
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We have the tools.
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Imamo orodja. Imamo tehnologijo za postavitev diagnoze.
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We have the technology to make the diagnosis.
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06:38
But it's all too often that these sex diffferences
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A vse prevečkrat te razlike med spoloma spregledamo.
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are overlooked.
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So what about treatment?
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Kako je z zdravljenjem?
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A landmark study that was published two years ago
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Študija, ki je bila objavljena pred dvema letoma,
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asked the very important question:
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je zastavila pomembno vprašanje:
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What are the most effective treatments for heart disease in women?
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Katera so najbolj učinkovita zdravljenja srčnih bolezni žensk?
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The authors looked at papers written over a 10-year period,
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Avtorji so pogledali članke, napisane v desetih letih,
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and hundreds had to be thrown out.
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in na stotine so jih morali zavreči.
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And what they found out was that of those that were tossed out,
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Odkrili so, da izmed tistih, ki so jih morali izključiti,
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65 percent were excluded
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je bilo 65 odstotkov takih, v katere so bile ženske sicer vključene,
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because even though women were included in the studies,
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the analysis didn't differentiate between women and men.
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vendar pri njih analize niso razlikovale med moškimi in ženskami.
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What a lost opportunity.
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Kakšna izgubljena priložnost.
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The money had been spent
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Denar smo zapravili in nismo pogledali, kako je šlo ženskam.
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and we didn't learn how women fared.
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07:29
And these studies could not contribute one iota
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In te študije niso prispevale niti malo k zelo, zelo pomembnemu vprašanju,
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to the very, very important question,
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what are the most effective treatments
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katera so najučinkovitejša zdravljenja srčnih bolezni pri ženskah?
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for heart disease in women?
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07:40
I want to introduce you to Hortense, my godmother,
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Predstavila vam bom Hortense, mojo botro,
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Hung Wei, a relative of a colleague,
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Hung Wei, sorodnico sodelavke,
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and somebody you may recognize --
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in nekoga, ki ga morda prepoznate--
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Dana, Christopher Reeve's wife.
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Dano, ženo Christopherja Reeva.
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All three women have something very important in common.
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Vsem trem ženskam je skupno nekaj zelo pomembnega.
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All three were diagnosed with lung cancer,
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Vsem trem so diagnosticirali rak pljuč,
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the number one cancer killer of women
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najbolj pogost rak, ki je vzrok smrti žensk v ZDA danes.
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in the United States today.
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All three were nonsmokers.
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Vse tri so bile nekadilke.
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Sadly, Dana and Hung Wei died of their disease.
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Na žalost sta Dana in Hung Wei umrli zaradi bolezni.
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Today, what we know is that women who are nonsmokers are three times more likely
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Danes vemo, da imajo nekadilke trikrat večjo verjetnost,
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to be diagnosed with lung cancer than are men
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da jim diagnosticirajo raka pljuč kot nekadilci.
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who are nonsmokers.
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08:28
Now interestingly, when women are diagnosed with lung cancer,
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Zanimivo, ko ženskam diagnosticirajo raka pljuč,
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their survival tends to be better than that of men.
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je njihovo preživetje boljše od moških.
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Now, here are some clues.
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Tu je nekaj sledi.
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Our investigators have found that there are
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Naši raziskovalci so odkrili, da so
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certain genes in the lung tumor cells of both women and men.
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določeni geni v celicah pljučnega tumorja pri moških in ženskah.
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And these genes are activated
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Te gene aktivira predvsem estrogen.
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mainly by estrogen.
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And when these genes are over-expressed,
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In ko so ti geni preveč izraženi,
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it's associated with improved survival
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je to povezano z izboljšanim preživetjem samo pri mladih ženskah.
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only in young women.
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08:56
Now this is a very early finding
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To je zelo zgodnje odkritje in še ne vemo, ali je pomembno za klinično oskrbo.
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and we don't yet know whether it has relevance
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09:01
to clinical care.
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But it's findings like this that may provide hope
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Ampak taka odkritja nam dajejo upanje
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and may provide an opportunity to save lives
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in morda lahko prinesejo priložnost, da rešimo življenja moških in žensk.
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of both women and men.
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09:13
Now, let me share with you an example
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Naj z vami delim primer,
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of when we do consider sex differences, it can drive the science.
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ko upoštevanje razlik med spoloma, lahko žene znanost naprej.
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Several years ago a new lung cancer drug
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Pred nekaj leti so ocenjevali novo zdravilo za raka pljuč
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was being evaluated,
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and when the authors looked at whose tumors shrank,
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in ko so avtorji pogledali, čigavi tumorji so se skrčili,
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they found that 82 percent were women.
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so ugotovili, da je bilo 82 odstotkov žensk.
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This led them to ask the question: Well, why?
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To je vodilo k vprašanju, zakaj.
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And what they found
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Odkrili so, da so bile genetske mutacije, na katere je ciljalo zdravilo,
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was that the genetic mutations that the drug targeted
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were far more common in women.
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veliko pogostejše pri ženskah.
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And what this has led to
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In to je vodilo v veliko bolj oseben pristop
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is a more personalized approach
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to the treatment of lung cancer that also includes sex.
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zdravljenja raka, ki vključuje tudi spol.
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This is what we can accomplish
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To lahko dosežemo, če zdravja žensk ne prepustimo naključju.
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when we don't leave women's health to chance.
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09:55
We know that when you invest in research,
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Vemo, da ko investiraš v raziskave, dobiš rezultate.
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you get results.
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10:00
Take a look at the death rate from breast cancer over time.
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Poglejte razvoj umrljivosti zaradi raka dojke.
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And now take a look at the death rates
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Sedaj pa poglejte umrljivost zaradi pljučnega raka pri ženskah skozi čas.
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from lung cancer in women over time.
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Now let's look at the dollars invested in breast cancer --
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Poglejmo dolarje, vložene v raka na dojki - to so vloženi dolarji na smrt -
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these are the dollars invested per death --
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and the dollars invested in lung cancer.
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in dolarje, vložene v raka na pljučih.
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Now, it's clear that our investment in breast cancer
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Jasno je, da je naše vlaganje v raka dojke prineslo rezultate.
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has produced results.
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They may not be fast enough,
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Morda niso dovolj hitri, ampak rezultati so.
10:29
but it has produced results.
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We can do the same
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Lahko naredimo enako za raka pljuč in vsako bolezen.
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for lung cancer and for every other disease.
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10:38
So let's go back to depression.
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Pojdimo nazaj k depresiji.
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Depression is the number one cause
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Depresija je danes vzrok številka ena na svetu za invalidnost žensk.
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of disability in women in the world today.
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Our investigators have found
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Naši raziskovalci so ugotovili, da obstajajo razlike v možganih
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that there are differences in the brains
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of women and men
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moških in žensk v območjih, ki so povezana z razpoloženjem.
10:54
in the areas that are connected with mood.
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And when you put men and women
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In ko pregledaš moške in ženske s funkcionalno magnetno resonanco -
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in a functional MRI scanner --
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that's the kind of scanner that shows how the brain is functioning when it's activated --
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ta pokaže, kako možgani delujejo, ko so aktivirani -
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so you put them in the scanner and you expose them to stress.
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jih daš v skener in jih izpostaviš stresu.
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You can actually see the difference.
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Lahko dejansko vidiš razliko.
11:13
And it's findings like this
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In za taka odkritja verjamemo, da vsebujejo določene razlage,
11:16
that we believe hold some of the clues
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for why we see these very significant sex differences
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zakaj vidimo vse te razlike med spoloma pri depresiji.
11:23
in depression.
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11:25
But even though we know
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Ampak čeprav vemo, da se te razlike pojavljajo,
11:27
that these differences occur,
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66 percent
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je 66 odstotkov raziskav možganov, ki se začnejo na živalih,
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of the brain research that begins in animals
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is done in either male animals
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narejenih na živalih moškega spola ali na živalih nedoločenega spola.
11:38
or animals in whom the sex is not identified.
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11:43
So, I think we have to ask again the question:
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Zato se spet vrnimo k vprašanju: Zakaj prepustiti zdravje žensk naključju?
11:46
Why leave women's health to chance?
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11:51
And this is a question that haunts those of us
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In to vprašanje preganja tiste med nami v znanosti in medicini,
11:54
in science and medicine
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who believe that we are on the verge of being able to dramatically improve
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ki verjamemo, da smo na robu tega, da bomo lahko dramatično izboljšali
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the health of women.
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zdravje žensk.
12:04
We know that every cell has a sex.
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Vemo, da ima vsaka celica spol.
12:06
We know that these differences are often overlooked.
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Vemo, da so te razlike pogosto spregledane.
12:09
And therefore we know that women are not getting the full benefit
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In zatorej vemo, da ženske ne uživajo vseh koristi
12:14
of modern science and medicine today.
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moderne znanosti in medicine.
12:17
We have the tools
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Imamo orodja, a manjkata nam skupinska volja in zagon.
12:19
but we lack the collective will and momentum.
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12:23
Women's health is an equal rights issue
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Zdravje žensk je problem enakopravnosti, tako pomemben kot enako plačilo.
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as important as equal pay.
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12:29
And it's an issue of the quality
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In je problem kakovosti in integritete znanosti in medicine.
12:31
and the integrity of science and medicine.
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12:35
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
12:42
So imagine the momentum we could achieve
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Predstavljajte si zagon, ki bi ga lahko dosegli v napredku zdravja žensk,
12:47
in advancing the health of women
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12:49
if we considered whether these sex differences were present
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če bi upoštevali, ali so te razlike med spoloma prisotne
12:52
at the very beginning of designing research.
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na začetku načrtovanja raziskave.
12:55
Or if we analyzed our data by sex.
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Ali če bi analizirali podatke glede na spol.
12:59
So, people often ask me:
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Ljudje me pogosto vprašajo: "Kaj lahko storim?"
13:01
What can I do?
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And here's what I suggest:
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In to predlagam:
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First, I suggest that you think about women's health
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Prvič, predlagam vam, da o zdravju žensk premišljujete na isti način,
13:09
in the same way
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that you think and care about other causes that are important to you.
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kot premišljujete in vam je mar za druge pomembne cilje.
13:17
And second, and equally as important,
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In drugič, enako pomembno je, da kot ženska vprašate svojega zdravnika
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that as a woman,
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you have to ask your doctor
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13:25
and the doctors who are caring for those who you love:
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in zdravnike, ki skrbijo za vaše bližnje:
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Is this disease or treatment different in women?
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Je ta bolezen ali zdravljenje pri ženskah drugačna?
13:34
Now, this is a profound question because the answer is likely yes,
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To je pomembno vprašanje, ker je odgovor verjetno da.
13:38
but your doctor may not know the answer, at least not yet.
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A vaš zdravnik morda ne ve odgovora, vsaj ne še.
13:42
But if you ask the question, your doctor will very likely
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Ampak če vprašate, bo verjetno šel poiskat odgovor.
13:46
go looking for the answer.
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13:48
And this is so important,
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In to je zelo pomembno, ne samo za nas, ampak za vse, ki jih imamo radi.
13:51
not only for ourselves,
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but for all of those whom we love.
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13:55
Whether it be a mother, a daughter, a sister,
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Naj bo to mati, hči, sestra, prijateljica ali babica.
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a friend or a grandmother.
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14:04
It was my grandmother's suffering
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Trpljenje moje babice je navdihnilo moje delo na izboljšanju zdravja žensk.
14:06
that inspired my work
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to improve the health of women.
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That's her legacy.
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To je njena zapuščina.
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Our legacy can be to improve the health of women
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Naša zapuščina je lahko izboljšanje zdravja žensk
14:18
for this generation
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te generacije in naslednjih generacij.
14:20
and for generations to come.
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Thank you.
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Hvala.
14:25
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
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