Dave Isay: Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear

Prevodilac: Ivana Krivokuća Lektor: Ivana Korom

Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case

Večeras ću pokušati da vam predstavim

that inviting a loved one, a friend or even a stranger

kako poziv voljenoj osobi, prijatelju ili čak i nekom nepoznatom

to record a meaningful interview with you

da snimi značajan intervju sa vama

just might turn out to be one of the most important moments in that person's life,

može biti jedan od najvažnijih trenutaka u životu te osobe,

and in yours.

a i u vašem.

When I was 22 years old, I was lucky enough to find my calling

Kada sam imao 22 godine, imao sam sreće da otkrijem svoj poziv

when I fell into making radio stories.

kada sam ušao u pravljenje radio priča.

At almost the exact same time,

Gotovo istovremeno,

I found out that my dad, who I was very, very close to, was gay.

saznao sam da je moj tata, sa kim sam bio veoma, veoma blizak, gej.

I was taken completely by surprise.

Bio sam potpuno iznenađen.

We were a very tight-knit family,

Bili smo vrlo povezana porodica,

and I was crushed.

i bio sam slomljen.

At some point, in one of our strained conversations,

U nekom trenutku, u jednom od naših nategnutih razgovora,

my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.

moj tata je pomenuo Stounvolsku pobunu.

He told me that one night in 1969,

Rekao mi je da se jedne noći 1969. godine

a group of young black and Latino drag queens

grupa mladih crnačkih i latino transvestita

fought back against the police at a gay bar in Manhattan

borila protiv policije u gej baru na Menhetnu

called the Stonewall Inn,

zvanom Stounvol In,

and how this sparked the modern gay rights movement.

i da je to pokrenulo moderni pokret za gej prava.

It was an amazing story, and it piqued my interest.

To je bila neverovatna priča i probudila je moju zainteresovanost.

So I decided to pick up my tape recorder and find out more.

Tako da sam odlučio da uzmem svoj diktafon i saznam više o tome.

With the help of a young archivist named Michael Shirker,

Uz pomoć mladog arhiviste po imenu Majkl Širker,

we tracked down all of the people we could find

pronašli smo sve ljude koje je bilo moguće naći

who had been at the Stonewall Inn that night.

koji su bili u Stounvol Inu te noći.

Recording these interviews,

Snimajući te intervjue,

I saw how the microphone gave me the license

video sam kako mi je mikrofon dao dozvolu

to go places I otherwise never would have gone

da odem na mesta na koja inače ne bih otišao

and talk to people I might not otherwise ever have spoken to.

i pričam sa ljudima sa kojima inače ne bih nikada pričao.

I had the privilege of getting to know

Imao sam privilegiju da upoznam

some of the most amazing, fierce and courageous human beings

neke od najneverovatnijih, žestokih i hrabrih ljudi

I had ever met.

koje sam ikada sreo.

It was the first time the story of Stonewall

To je bilo prvi put da je priča o Stounvolu

had been told to a national audience.

saopštena domaćoj publici.

I dedicated the program to my dad,

Posvetio sam program mom tati,

it changed my relationship with him, and it changed my life.

to je promenilo moj odnos sa njim i promenilo je moj život.

Over the next 15 years, I made many more radio documentaries,

Tokom narednih 15 godina, napravio sam mnogo drugih radio dokumentaraca,

working to shine a light on people who are rarely heard from in the media.

radeći na tome da bacim svetlost na ljude koji se retko čuju u medijima.

Over and over again,

Iznova i iznova,

I'd see how this simple act of being interviewed

video bih kako ovaj jednostavan čin intervjuisanja

could mean so much to people,

toliko mnogo znači ljudima,

particularly those who had been told that their stories didn't matter.

naročito onima kojima je rečeno da njihove priče nisu bitne.

I could literally see people's back straighten

Bukvalno bih video kako se ljudima isprave leđa

as they started to speak into the microphone.

kada počinju da pričaju u mikrofon.

In 1998, I made a documentary about the last flophouse hotels

1998. godine sam napravio dokumentarac o poslednjim sirotinjskim hotelima

on the Bowery in Manhattan.

u Boveriju na Menhetnu.

Guys stayed up in these cheap hotels for decades.

Ljudi su decenijama ostajali u tim jeftinim hotelima.

They lived in cubicles the size of prison cells

Živeli su u kabinama veličine zatvorske ćelije

covered with chicken wire

prekrivenim žičanom preprekom

so you couldn't jump from one room into the next.

tako da ne možete da uskačete iz jedne sobe u drugu.

Later, I wrote a book on the men with the photographer Harvey Wang.

Kasnije sam napisao knjigu o tim ljudima sa fotografom Harvijem Vengom.

I remember walking into a flophouse with an early version of the book

Sećam se da sam ušetao u hotel sa ranom verzijom knjige

and showing one of the guys his page.

i pokazao jednom tipu njegovu stranicu.

He stood there staring at it in silence,

Stajao je i u tišini zurio u nju,

then he grabbed the book out of my hand

zatim je zgrabio knjigu iz moje ruke

and started running down the long, narrow hallway

i počeo da trči niz dugačak uzani hodnik

holding it over his head

držeći je iznad glave

shouting, "I exist! I exist."

i uzvikujući: "Ja postojim! Ja postojim!"

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

In many ways, "I exist" became the clarion call for StoryCorps,

Na mnogo načina, "ja postojim" je postalo poziv na akciju za Storikorps,

this crazy idea that I had a dozen years ago.

tu ludu ideju koju sam imao pre desetinu godina.

The thought was to take documentary work

Zamisao je bila uzeti rad na dokumentarcima

and turn it on its head.

i izvrnuti ga naopačke.

Traditionally, broadcast documentary

Tradicionalno, emitovani dokumentarci

has been about recording interviews to create a work of art or entertainment

su podrazumevali snimanje intervjua da bi se stvorilo umetničko delo, zabavno

or education that is seen or heard by a whole lot of people,

ili edukativno delo koje će videti ili čuti veoma mnogo ljudi,

but I wanted to try something

ali ja sam želeo da probam nešto

where the interview itself was the purpose of this work,

gde je intervju sam po sebi svrha tog dela,

and see if we could give many, many, many people the chance

i da vidim da li možemo pružiti šansu znatnom broju ljudi

to be listened to in this way.

da na taj način budu saslušani.

So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,

Tako smo pre 11 godina u Grand Central Terminalu

we built a booth where anyone can come to honor someone else

napravili kabinu gde bilo ko može doći da oda priznanje nekom drugom

by interviewing them about their life.

intervjuišući ga o njegovom životu.

You come to this booth and you're met by a facilitator who brings you inside.

Kada dođete u tu kabinu, srećete facilitatora koji vas uvodi unutra.

You sit across from, say, your grandfather

Sedite naspram, recimo, vašeg dede

for close to an hour and you listen and you talk.

blizu jednog sata i slušate i govorite.

Many people think of it as, if this was to be our last conversation,

Mnogi razmišljaju o tome na ovaj način: kada bi ovo bio naš poslednji razgovor,

what would I want to ask of and say to this person

šta bih želeo da pitam i kažem ovoj osobi

who means so much to me?

koja mi toliko znači?

At the end of the session, you walk away with a copy of the interview

Po završetku ove sesije, izlazite sa kopijom intervjua

and another copy goes to the American Folklife Center

a druga kopija odlazi centru "American Folklife"

at the Library of Congress

u Kongresnoj biblioteci

so that your great-great-great-grandkids can someday get to know your grandfather

kako bi vaši čukun-čukun-čukununuci mogli da jednog dana upoznaju vašeg dedu

through his voice and story.

kroz njegov glas i priču.

So we open this booth in one of the busiest places in the world

Tako smo otvorili ovu kabinu na jednom od najprometnijih mesta na svetu

and invite people to have this incredibly intimate conversation

i pozvali ljude da obave ovaj neverovatno intimni razgvor

with another human being.

sa drugim ljudskim bićem.

I had no idea if it would work, but from the very beginning, it did.

Nisam imao pojma da li će uspeti, ali jeste i to od samog početka.

People treated the experience with incredible respect,

Ljudi su imali izuzetno poštovanje prema ovom iskustvu,

and amazing conversations happened inside.

i unutra su se odvijali neverovatni razgovori.

I want to play just one animated excerpt

Želim da vam pustim jedan animirani odlomak

from an interview recorded at that original Grand Central Booth.

iz intervjua snimljenog u toj originalnoj Grand Central kabini.

This is 12-year-old Joshua Littman interviewing his mother, Sarah.

Ovo je 12-ogodišnji Džošua Litman koji intervjuiše svoju majku Saru.

Josh has Asperger's syndrome.

Džoš ima Aspergerov sindrom.

As you may know, kids with Asperger's are incredibly smart

Kao što možda znate, deca sa Aspergerom su izuzetno pametna

but have a tough time socially.

ali imaju teškoća na društvenom planu.

They usually have obsessions.

Obično imaju opsesije.

In Josh's case, it's with animals,

U Džošovom slučaju, one su bile vezane za životinje,

so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah

i evo Džoša kako priča sa svojom mamom Sarom

at Grand Central nine years ago.

U Grand Centralu pre devet godina.

(Video) Josh Littman: From a scale of one to 10,

(Video) Džoš Litman: Na skali od jedan do 10,

do you think your life would be different without animals?

da li misliš da bi tvoj život bio drugačiji bez životinja?

Sarah Littman: I think it would be an eight without animals,

Sara Litman: Mislim da bi to bila osmica bez životinja,

because they add so much pleasure to life.

jer one dodaju toliko zadovoljstva životu.

JL: How else do you think your life would be different without them?

DžL: Kako još misliš da bi tvoj život bio drugačiji bez njih?

SL: I could do without things like cockroaches and snakes.

SL: Mogla bih da živim bez nekih kao što su bubašvabe i zmije.

JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes as long as they're not venomous

DžL: Pa, ja sam okej sa zmijama ako nisu otrovnice

or constrict you or anything.

ili udavi ili tako nešto.

SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person --

SL: Da, ja nisam veliki obožavatelj zmija -

JL: But cockroach is just the insect we love to hate.

DžL: Ali bubašvaba je baš insekt kojeg volimo da mrzimo.

SL: Yeah, it really is.

SL: Da, stvarno jeste.

JL: Have you ever thought you couldn't cope with having a child?

DžL: Da li si ikada pomislila da se nećeš snaći sa svojim detetom?

SL: I remember when you were a baby, you had really bad colic,

SL: Sećam se kad si bio beba, imao si stvarno teške kolike,

so you would just cry and cry.

pa si samo plakao i plakao.

JL: What's colic? SL: It's when you get this stomach ache

DžL: Šta je kolika? SL: To je kada dobiješ bolove u stomaku

and all you do is scream for, like, four hours.

i samo vrištiš, recimo, četiri sata.

JL: Even louder than Amy does?

DžL: Čak i glasnije od Ejmi?

SL: You were pretty loud, but Amy's was more high-pitched.

SL: Ti si bio prilično glasan, ali Ejmi je bila piskavija.

JL: I think it feels like everyone seems to like Amy more,

DžL: Meni se čini kao da svi više vole Ejmi,

like she's the perfect little angel.

kao da je ona savršeni mali anđeo.

SL: Well, I can understand why you think that people like Amy more,

SL: Pa, mogu da razumem zašto misliš da ljudi više vole Ejmi,

and I'm not saying it's because of your Asperger's syndrome,

a ne kažem da je to zbog tvog Aspergerovog sindroma,

but being friendly comes easily to Amy,

već zato što je za Ejmi lakše da bude druželjubiva,

whereas I think for you it's more difficult,

dok je to tebi teže,

but the people who take the time to get to know you love you so much.

ali ljudi koji izdvoje vreme da te upoznaju, mnogo te vole.

JL: Like Ben or Eric or Carlos? SL: Yeah --

DžL: Kao Ben ili Erik ili Karlos? SL: Da -

JL: Like I have better quality friends but less quantity? (Laughter)

DžL: Znači ja imam bolji kvalitet prijatelja ali manji kvantitet? (Smeh)

SL: I wouldn't judge the quality, but I think --

SL: Ne bih da sudim o kvalitetu, ali mislim -

JL: I mean, first it was like, Amy loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,

DžL: Mislim, Ejmi je prvo volela Klaudiju, onda je mrzela Klaudiju,

she loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.

pa je volela Klaudiju, pa je mrzela Klaudiju.

SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.

SL: To su bile neke ženske stvari, dušo.

The important thing for you is that you have a few very good friends,

Za tebe je važno da imaš nekoliko veoma dobrih prijatelja,

and really that's what you need in life.

i to je zapravo ono šta ti treba u životu.

JL: Did I turn out to be the son you wanted when I was born?

DžL: Da li sam ispao sin koga si želela kada sam se rodio?

Did I meet your expectations?

Da li sam ispunio tvoja očekivanja?

SL: You've exceeded my expectations, sweetie,

SL: Premašio si moja očekivanja, dušo,

because, sure, you have these fantasies of what your child's going to be like,

jer, istina, imamo fantazije o tome kakvo će nam dete biti,

but you have made me grow so much as a parent, because you think --

ali zbog tebe sam se toliko razvila kao roditelj, jer ti razmišljaš -

JL: Well, I was the one who made you a parent.

DžL: Pa, ja sam te učinio roditeljem.

SL: You were the one who made me a parent. That's a good point. (Laughter)

SL: Ti si me učinio roditeljem. Dobro rečeno. (Smeh)

But also because you think differently

Ali i zato što ti razmišljaš drugačije

from what they tell you in the parenting books,

od onoga što se opisuje u knjigama o roditeljstvu,

I really had to learn to think outside of the box with you,

zaista sam morala da naučim da razmišljam nekonvencionalno,

and it's made me much more creative as a parent and as a person,

i to me je učinilo mnogo kreativnijom kao roditelja i kao ličnost,

and I'll always thank you for that.

i zbog toga ću ti uvek biti zahvalna.

JL: And that helped when Amy was born?

DžL: A to je pomoglo kad se Ejmi rodila?

SL: And that helped when Amy was born, but you are so incredibly special to me

SL: A to je pomoglo kad se Ejmi rodila, ali ti si za mene izuzetno poseban

and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.

i toliko sam srećna što si moj sin.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

David Isay: After this story ran on public radio,

Dejvid Isaj: Nakon što je ova priča javno emitovana na radiju,

Josh received hundreds of letters

Džoš je primio stotine pisama

telling him what an amazing kid he was.

u kojima su mu govorili kako je on neverovatno dete.

His mom, Sarah, bound them together in a book,

Njegova mama Sara ih je povezala u knjigu,

and when Josh got picked on at school, they would read the letters together.

i kada bi Džoša zadirkivali u školi, oni bi zajedno čitali pisma.

I just want to acknowledge that two of my heroes

Samo želim da podelim da su moja dva heroja

are here with us tonight.

ovde večeras sa nama.

Sarah Littman and her son Josh, who is now an honors student in college.

Sara Litman i njen sin Džoš, koji je sada počasni student na koledžu.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

You know, a lot of people talk about crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,

Znate, mnogi govore o plakanju kada čuju Storikorps priče,

and it's not because they're sad.

a to nije zbog toga što su tužne.

Most of them aren't.

Većina njih nije.

I think it's because you're hearing something authentic and pure

Mislim da je to zato što čuju nešto autentično i čisto

at this moment, when sometimes it's hard to tell

u ovo vreme, kada je ponekad teško reći

what's real and what's an advertisement.

šta je stvarno, a šta je reklama.

It's kind of the anti-reality TV.

To je neka vrsta anti-rialiti televizije.

Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.

Niko ne dolazi u Storikorps da se obogati.

Nobody comes to get famous.

Niko ne dolazi da se proslavi.

It's simply an act of generosity and love.

To je jednostavno čin velikodušnosti i ljubavi.

So many of these are just everyday people

Mnogi od njih su samo obični ljudi koji govore o životima

talking about lives lived with kindness, courage, decency and dignity,

proživljenim sa dobrotom, hrabrošću, pristojnošću i dostojanstvom,

and when you hear that kind of story,

i kada čujete takvu priču,

it can sometimes feel like you're walking on holy ground.

nekad se može činiti kao da hodate po svetom tlu.

So this experiment in Grand Central worked,

Dakle, ovaj eksperiment u Grand Centralu je uspeo,

and we expanded across the country.

i proširili smo se po celoj zemlji.

Today, more than 100,000 people in all 50 states

Danas, više od 100 000 ljudi u svih 50 država

in thousands of cities and towns across America

u hiljadama gradova i gradića širom Amerike

have recorded StoryCorps interviews.

snimilo je Storikorps intervjue.

It's now the largest single collection of human voices ever gathered.

To je sada najveća ikada sakupljena kolekcija ljudskih glasova.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

We've hired and trained hundreds of facilitators

Angažovali smo i obučili stotine facilitatora

to help guide people through the experience.

kako bi pomogli u vođenju ljudi kroz ovo iskustvo.

Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps

Većina njih radi za Storikorps godinu ili dve

traveling the country, gathering the wisdom of humanity.

putujući zemljom, prikupljajući mudrost čovečanstva.

They call it bearing witness,

Oni to zovu svedočenjem,

and if you ask them,

i ako ih pitate,

all of the facilitators will tell you that the most important thing

svi facilitatori će vam reći da je najvažnija stvar

they've learned from being present during these interviews

koju su naučili prisustvujući ovim intervjuima

is that people are basically good.

ta da su ljudi u suštini dobri.

And I think for the first years of StoryCorps, you could argue

Mislim da biste za prvih nekoliko godina Storikorpsa mogli pomisliti

that there was some kind of a selection bias happening,

da se tu dešava nekakva pristrasnost u odabiru,

but after tens of thousands of interviews with every kind of person

ali nakon desetina hiljada intervjua sa svakojakim osobama

in every part of the country --

u svakom delu zemlje -

rich, poor, five years old to 105,

bogatima, siromašnima, uzrasta od pet do 105 godina,

80 different languages, across the political spectrum --

na 80 različitih jezika, kroz ceo politički sprektrum -

you have to think that maybe these guys are actually onto something.

morate pomisliti da su možda ovi ljudi zaista na tragu nečega.

I've also learned so much from these interviews.

Takođe sam i toliko toga naučio iz ovih intervjua.

I've learned about the poetry and the wisdom and the grace

Naučio sam o poeziji, mudrosti i gracioznosti

that can be found in the words of people all around us

koji se mogu naći u rečima ljudi oko nas

when we simply take the time to listen,

kada samo izdvojimo vreme da ih slušamo,

like this interview

kao u ovom intervjuu

between a betting clerk in Brooklyn named Danny Perasa

između službenika kladionice u Bruklinu po imenu Deni Perasa

who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps to talk about his love for her.

koji je doveo svoju ženu Eni u Storikorps da bi govorio o svojoj ljubavi prema njoj.

(Audio) Danny Perasa: You see, the thing of it is,

(Audio) Deni Perasa: Vidiš, stvar je u tome

I always feel guilty when I say "I love you" to you.

što uvek osećam krivicu kada ti kažem "volim te".

And I say it so often. I say it to remind you

A govorim to tako često, govorim ti to da bih te podsetio

that as dumpy as I am, it's coming from me.

da koliko god da sam nezgrapan, to dolazi od mene.

It's like hearing a beautiful song from a busted old radio,

To je kao da čujete prelepu pesmu sa razbucanog starog radija,

and it's nice of you to keep the radio around the house.

i lepo je od vas što čuvate taj radio u kući.

Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note on the kitchen table,

Eni Perasa: Ako nema poruke za mene na kuhinjskom stolu,

pomislim da nešto nije u redu.

I think there's something wrong.

You write a love letter to me every morning.

Pišeš mi ljubavna pisma svakog jutra.

DP: Well, the only thing that could possibly be wrong

DP: Pa, jedina stvar koja bi mogla da pođe po zlu

bilo bi to da ne mogu da nađem glupu olovku.

is I couldn't find a silly pen.

AP: To my princess:

EP: Mojoj princezi:

The weather outside today is extremely rainy.

Danas je vreme napolju izuzetno kišovito.

I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.

Zvaću te u 11:20 ujutru.

DP: To je romantična vremenska prognoza.

DP: It's a romantic weather report.

AP: And I love you. I love you. I love you.

EP: I volim te. Volim te. Volim te.

DP: When a guy is happily married, no matter what happens at work,

DP: Kada je čovek srećno oženjen, šta god da se desi na poslu,

no matter what happens in the rest of the day,

šta god da se dogodi tokom ostatka dana,

there's a shelter when you get home,

uvek postoji utočište kada dođe kući,

there's a knowledge knowing that you can hug somebody

postoji ta svest o tome da znate da možete zagrliti nekoga

without them throwing you downstairs and saying, "Get your hands off me."

a da vas ta osoba neće odgurnuti i reći: "Sklanjaj ruke s mene."

Being married is like having a color television set.

Biti u braku je kao da imate televizor u boji.

You never want to go back to black and white.

Ne želite da se ikada više vratite na crno-beli.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

DI: Danny was about five feet tall

DI: Deni je visok oko metar i po

with crossed eyes and one single snaggletooth,

sa ukrštenim očima i izbačenim zubom,

but Danny Perasa had more romance in his little pinky

ali Deni Perasa ima više romantike u svom malom prstu

than all of Hollywood's leading men put together.

nego svi glavni muškarci Holivuda zajedno.

What else have I learned?

Šta sam još naučio?

I've learned about the almost unimaginable capacity

Naučio sam o gotovo nezamislivom kapacitetu

for the human spirit to forgive.

ljudskog duha da oprosti.

I've learned about resilience and I've learned about strength.

Naučio sam o otpornosti i o snazi.

Like an interview with Oshea Israel and Mary Johnson.

Kao u intervjuu sa Ošeom Izrael i Meri Džonson.

When Oshea was a teenager, he murdered Mary's only son,

Kada je Ošej bio tinejdžer, ubio je Merinog sina jedinca,

Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.

Laramiuna Birda, u okršaju bandi.

A dozen years later, Mary went to prison

Desetak godina kasnije, Meri je otišla u zatvor

to meet Oshea and find out who this person was

da upozna Ošea i otkrije ko je ta osoba

who had taken her son's life.

koja je oduzela život njenom sinu.

Slowly and remarkably, they became friends,

Polako i izvanredno, postali su prijatelji,

and when he was finally released from the penitentiary,

a kada je on konačno pušten iz zatvora,

Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.

Ošej se doselio u kuću do Meri.

This is just a short excerpt of a conversation they had

Ovo je samo kraći odlomak razgovora koji su vodili

soon after Oshea was freed.

ubrzo nakon što je Ošej oslobođen.

(Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son is no longer here.

(Audio) Meri Džonson: Moj biološki sin više nije ovde.

I didn't see him graduate, and now you're going to college.

Nisam ga videla kako diplomira, a sada ti ideš na fakultet.

I'll have the opportunity to see you graduate.

Imaću priliku da vidim tebe kako diplomiraš.

I didn't see him get married.

Nisam ga videla kako se ženi.

Hopefully one day, I'll be able to experience that with you.

Nadam se da ću jednoga dana to moći da doživim sa tobom.

Oshea Israel: Just to hear you say those things and to be

Ošej Izrael: Samo kada te čujem kako govoriš te stvari

in my life in the manner in which you are is my motivation.

i kada si na takav način prisutna u mom životu, to me motiviše.

It motivates me to make sure that I stay on the right path.

Motiviše me da se potrudim da ostanem na pravom putu.

You still believe in me,

Još uvek veruješ u mene,

and the fact that you can do it despite how much pain I caused you,

a činjenica da to možeš uprkos bolu koji sam ti izazvao,

it's amazing.

to je neverovatno.

MJ: I know it's not an easy thing to be able to share our story together,

MDž: Znam da nije laka stvar to što možemo da zajedno podelimo našu priču,

even with us sitting here looking at each other right now.

čak i dok sada sedimo ovde i gledamo jedno drugo.

I know it's not an easy thing, so I admire that you can do this.

Znam da to nije lako, zato ti se divim što ovo možeš.

OI: I love you, lady. MJ: I love you too, son.

OI: Volim te, gospođo. MDž: I ja tebe volim, sine.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

DI: And I've been reminded countless times of the courage and goodness of people,

DI: I bezbroj puta sam se podsetio hrabrosti i dobrote ljudi

and how the arc of history truly does bend towards justice.

i kako se svod istorije zaista savija ka pravdi.

Like the story of Alexis Martinez, who was born Arthur Martinez

Kao u priči Aleksise Martinez, koja je rođena kao Artur Martinez,

in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.

u naselju Herold Ikis u Čikagu.

In the interview, she talks with her daughter Lesley

U intervjuu, ona priča sa svojom ćerkom Lesli

about joining a gang as a young man,

o priključivanju bandi kada je bila mladić,

and later in life transitioning into the woman she was always meant to be.

i kasnije u životu, o prelaženju u ženu, što je oduvek trebalo da bude.

This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.

Ovo su Aleksis i njena ćerka Lesli.

(Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most difficult things for me was

(Audio) Aleksis Martinez: Jedna od najtežih stvari za mene je bila

I was always afraid that I wouldn't be allowed

to što sam uvek bila uplašena da mi neće biti dopušteno

to be in my granddaughters' lives,

da budem deo života mojih unuka,

and you blew that completely out of the water,

a vi ste to uklonili u potpunosti,

you and your husband.

ti i tvoj muž.

One of the fruits of that is, in my relationship with my granddaughters,

Jedan od plodova toga je moj odnos sa unukama.

they fight with each other sometimes over whether I'm he or she.

Ponekad se svađajaju oko toga da li sam on ili ona.

Lesley Martinez: But they're free to talk about it.

Lesli Martinez: Ali su slobodne da pričaju o tome.

AM: They're free to talk about it, but that, to me, is a miracle.

AM: Slobodne su da pričaju o tome, ali to je čudo za mene.

LM: You don't have to apologize. You don't have to tiptoe.

LM: Ne moraš da se izvinjavaš. Ne moraš da ideš na prstima.

We're not going to cut you off, and that's something I've always

Nećemo te odbaciti, i to je nešto što sam uvek

wanted you to just know, that you're loved.

želela da znaš, da te volimo.

AM: You know, I live this every day now.

AM: Znaš, živim svaki dan sa ovim.

I walk down the streets as a woman, and I really am at peace with who I am.

Šetam ulicama kao žena i zaista sam u miru sa tim ko sam.

I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,

Mislim, volela bih možda da imam mekši glas,

but now I walk in love and I try to live that way every day.

ali sada šetam u ljubavi i nastojim da živim tako svakog dana.

DI: Now I walk in love.

DI: Sada šetam u ljubavi.

I'm going to tell you a secret about StoryCorps.

Reći ću vam tajnu o Storikorpsu.

It takes some courage to have these conversations.

Treba hrabrosti za ove razgovore.

StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.

Storikorps se obraća našoj smrtnosti.

Participants know this recording will be heard long after they're gone.

Učesnici znaju da će se ovaj snimak slušati dugo nakon što njih ne bude bilo.

There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock

Postoji doktor staračkog doma po imenu Ajra Bajok

who has worked closely with us on recording interviews

koji je sarađivao sa nama na snimanju intervjua

with people who are dying.

sa ljudima koji umiru.

He wrote a book called "The Four Things That Matter Most"

Napisao je knjigu pod nazivom "Četiri stvari koje su najbitnije"

about the four things you want to say to the most important people in your life

o četiri stvari koje želite da kažete najvažnijim ljudima u vašem životu

before they or you die:

pre nego što oni ili vi umrete:

thank you, I love you,

hvala, volim te,

forgive me, I forgive you.

oprosti mi, opraštam ti.

They're just about the most powerful words we can say to one another,

To su takoreći najsnažnije reči koje možemo reći jedni drugima,

and often that's what happens in a StoryCorps booth.

a to je često ono što se događa u kabini Storikorpa.

It's a chance to have a sense of closure with someone you care about --

To je prilika da imate osećaj završnice sa nekim do koga vam je stalo -

no regrets, nothing left unsaid.

bez kajanja, bez neizgovorenih reči.

And it's hard and it takes courage,

A to je teško i za to je potrebna hrabrost,

but that's why we're alive, right?

ali zbog toga živimo, zar ne?

So, the TED Prize.

Dakle, TED nagrada.

When I first heard from TED and Chris a few months ago

Kada sam se prvi put čuo sa TEDom i Krisom pre nekoliko meseci

about the possibility of the Prize, I was completely floored.

u vezi sa mogućnošću za nagradu, bio sam potpuno oboren s nogu.

They asked me to come up with a very brief wish for humanity,

Zatražili su mi da smislim vrlo kratku želju za čovečanstvo,

no more than 50 words.

ne više od 50 reči.

So I thought about it, I wrote my 50 words,

Razmislio sam o tome, napisao 50 reči,

and a few weeks later, Chris called and said, "Go for it."

i nekoliko nedelja kasnije, Kris je nazvao i rekao: "Samo napred."

So here is my wish:

I evo moje želje:

that you will help us

da ćete nam pomoći

take everything we've learned through StoryCorps

da uzmemo sve što smo naučili kroz Storikorps

and bring it to the world

i donesemo to svetu

so that anyone anywhere can easily record a meaningful interview

tako da bilo ko bilo gde može lako snimiti značajan intervju

with another human being which will then be archived for history.

sa drugom osobom koji će zatim biti arhiviran za istoriju.

How are we going to do that? With this.

Kako ćemo to učiniti? Ovim.

We're fast moving into a future where everyone in the world

Ubrzano se krećemo ka budućnosti u kojoj će svi na svetu

will have access to one of these,

imati pristup ovome,

and it has powers I never could have imagined 11 years ago

a to ima moći koje ja nikad nisam mogao ni da zamislim pre 11 godina

when I started StoryCorps.

kada sam osnovao Storikorps.

It has a microphone,

Ima mikrofon,

it can tell you how to do things,

može da vam kaže kako da obavite neke stvari,

and it can send audio files.

može da šalje audio fajlove.

Those are the key ingredients.

To su ključni sastojci.

So the first part of the wish is already underway.

Dakle prvi deo želje je već u toku.

Over the past couple of months,

Tokom proteklih par meseci,

the team at StoryCorps has been working furiously

tim Storikorpsa užurbano radi

to create an app that will bring StoryCorps out of our booths

na stvaranju aplikacije koja će izneti Storikorps iz naših kabina

so that it can be experienced by anyone, anywhere, anytime.

tako da ga može doživeti bilo ko, bilo gde, bilo kada.

Remember, StoryCorps has always been two people and a facilitator

Setite se, Storikorps je uvek bio između dvoje ljudi i facilitatora

helping them record their conversation, which is preserved forever,

koji im pomaže da snime razgovor, koji je sačuvan zauvek,

but at this very moment,

ali u ovom trenutku,

we're releasing a public beta version of the StoryCorps app.

puštamo javnu beta verziju Storikorps aplikacije.

The app is a digital facilitator that walks you through

Aplikacija je digitalni facilitator koji vas vodi

the StoryCorps interview process,

kroz Storikorps proces intervjuisanja,

helps you pick questions,

pomaže vam da odaberete pitanja,

and gives you all the tips you need

daje vam sve savete koji su vam potrebni

to record a meaningful StoryCorps interview,

da snimite značajan Storikorps intervju,

and then with one tap upload it to our archive at the Library of Congress.

i zatim ga jednim dodirom pošaljete našoj arhivi u Kongresnoj biblioteci.

That's the easy part, the technology.

To je lak deo, tehnologija.

The real challenge is up to you:

Pravi izazov je na vama:

to take this tool and figure out how we can use it

da uzmete ovu alatku i otkrijete kako je možemo upotrebiti

all across America and around the world,

širom Amerike i širom sveta,

so that instead of recording thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,

tako da umesto da snimamo hiljade Storikorps intervjua godišnje,

we could potentially record tens of thousands

mogli bismo eventualno snimiti desetine hiljada

or hundreds of thousands

ili stotine hiljada

or maybe even more.

ili možda čak i više.

Imagine, for example, a national homework assignment

Zamislite, na primer, nacionalni domaći zadatak

where every high school student studying U.S. history across the country

u kome bi svaki srednjoškolac širom zemlje koji izučava istoriju SAD-a

records an interview with an elder over Thanksgiving,

snimio intervju sa starijom osobom na Dan zahvalnosti,

so that in one single weekend

tako da bi za samo jedan vikend

an entire generation of American lives and experiences are captured.

bila zabeležena čitava generacija američkih života i iskustava.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Or imagine mothers on opposite sides of a conflict somewhere in the world

Ili zamislite majke na suprotstavljenim stranama konflikta negde na svetu

sitting down not to talk about that conflict

kako sede, ne da bi pričale o tom kofliktu

but to find out who they are as people,

već da bi otkrile ko su one kao ljudi,

and in doing so, begin to build bonds of trust;

i time počele da grade veze poverenja;

or that someday it becomes a tradition all over the world

ili da jednog dana postane tradicija širom sveta

that people are honored with a StoryCorps interview

da ljudima bude iskazana počast Storikorps intervjuom

on their 75th birthday;

na njihov 75. rođendan;

or that people in your community

ili da ljudi u vašoj zajednici

go into retirement homes or hospitals or homeless shelters or even prisons

odlaze u staračke domove ili bolnice ili skloništa beskućnika ili čak zatvore

armed with this app to honor the people least heard in our society

naoružani ovom aplikacijom da odaju priznanje ljudima

koji su se najmanje čuli u ovom društvu i pitaju ih ko su oni,

and ask them who they are, what they've learned in life,

šta su naučili u životu, i kako žele da budu upamćeni.

and how they want to be remembered.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Ten years ago, I recorded a StoryCorps interview with my dad

Pre deset godina, snimio sam Storikorps intervju sa svojim tatom

who was a psychiatrist, and became a well-known gay activist.

koji je bio psihijatar i postao poznati gej aktivista.

This is the picture of us at that interview.

Ovo je naša slika na tom intervjuu.

I never thought about that recording until a couple of years ago,

Nikada nisam razmišljao o tom snimku do pre nekoliko godina,

when my dad, who seemed to be in perfect health

kada je mom tati, koji je izgledao kao da je savršenog zdravlja

and was still seeing patients 40 hours a week,

i još uvek je viđao pacijente 40 sati nedeljno,

was diagnosed with cancer.

dijagnostikovan rak.

He passed away very suddenly a few days later.

Preminuo je vrlo iznenadno nekoliko dana kasnije.

It was June 28, 2012,

Bio je 28 jun 2012. godine,

the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.

godišnjica Stounvolske pobune.

I listened to that interview for the first time at three in the morning

Slušao sam taj intervju prvi put u tri ujutru

on the day that he died.

dana kada je umro.

I have a couple of young kids at home,

Imam par dece kod kuće,

and I knew that the only way they were going to get to know this person

i znao sam da će jedini način na koji će oni upoznati ovu osobu,

who was such a towering figure in my life would be through that session.

koja je bila tako istaknuta figura u mom životu, biti kroz ovu sesiju.

I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps any more deeply than I did,

Mislio sam da ne mogu da verujem u Storikorps dublje nego što jesam,

but it was at that moment

ali u tom trenutku

that I fully and viscerally grasped the importance of making these recordings.

sam potpuno i celim telom pojmio značaj pravljenja ovih snimaka.

Every day, people come up to me

Svakoga dana, ljudi mi prilaze

and say, "I wish I had interviewed my father or my grandmother or my brother,

i govore: "Voleo bih da sam intervjuisao svog oca ili baku ili brata,

but I waited too long."

ali sam čekao predugo.

Now, no one has to wait anymore.

Niko više ne mora da čeka.

At this moment,

U ovom trenutku,

when so much of how we communicate is fleeting and inconsequential,

kada je toliko toga u načinu naše komunikacije prolazno i nevažno,

join us in creating this digital archive

pridružite nam se u stvaranju ovog digitalnog arhiva

of conversations that are enduring and important.

razgovora koji su trajni i važni.

Help us create this gift to our children,

Pomozite nam da napravimo ovaj poklon za našu decu,

this testament to who we are as human beings.

ovo svedočanstvo onoga što jesmo kao ljudska bića.

I hope you'll help us make this wish come true.

Nadam se da ćete nam pomoći da ostvarimo ovu želju.

Interview a family member, a friend or even a stranger.

Intervjuišite člana porodice, prijatelja ili čak i nekog nepoznatog.

Together, we can create an archive of the wisdom of humanity,

Zajedno možemo stvoriti arhiv mudrosti čovečanstva,

and maybe in doing so,

i možda ćemo time

we'll learn to listen a little more and shout a little less.

naučiti da malo više slušamo, a malo manje vičemo.

Maybe these conversations will remind us what's really important.

Možda će nas ovi razgovori podsetiti na to šta je zaista važno.

And maybe, just maybe,

I možda, samo možda,

it will help us recognize that simple truth

će nam pomoći da prepoznamo tu jednostavnu istinu

that every life, every single life,

da svaki život, svi do jednog,

matters equally and infinitely.

znače podjednako i beskrajno.

Thank you very much.

Hvala vam mnogo.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Thank you. Thank you.

Hvala. Hvala.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

Thank you.

Hvala.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)