Dave Isay: Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear

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2015-03-25 ใƒป TED


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Dave Isay: Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: ํƒœ๊ทœ ํ—ˆ ๊ฒ€ํ† : Seoyun Choi
00:12
Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋ฐค, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์”€์„ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:15
that inviting a loved one, a friend or even a stranger
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์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ์นœ๊ตฌ, ํ˜น์€ ํƒ€์ธ์ด๋ผ๋„
00:19
to record a meaningful interview with you
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๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ์˜๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
00:22
just might turn out to be one of the most important moments in that person's life,
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ๊ณผ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ
00:26
and in yours.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
00:29
When I was 22 years old, I was lucky enough to find my calling
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์Šค๋ฌผ๋‘์‚ด ๋•Œ, ์ €๋Š” ์šด์ด ์ข‹์•„์„œ ์ œ ์†Œ๋ช…์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:32
when I fell into making radio stories.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ผ๋””์˜ค ์ž‘๊ฐ€์— ๋น ์กŒ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
00:35
At almost the exact same time,
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ํก์‚ฌํ•œ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ์ €์™€ ํ‰์†Œ์— ์•„์ฃผ ๊ฐ€๊น๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜
00:37
I found out that my dad, who I was very, very close to, was gay.
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์ œ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋™์„ฑ์—ฐ์• ์ž๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:42
I was taken completely by surprise.
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์ €๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:44
We were a very tight-knit family,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํ™”๋ชฉํ•œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ ,
00:47
and I was crushed.
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์ €๋Š” ์‹ฌํ•œ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ .
00:49
At some point, in one of our strained conversations,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ป„๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋Œ€ํ™”์ค‘ ์–ด๋Š ์ˆœ๊ฐ„,
00:52
my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ป˜์„œ ์Šคํ†ค์›” ์‹œ์œ„์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ์–ด์š”.
00:54
He told me that one night in 1969,
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹œ๊ธธ, 1969๋…„ ์–ด๋Š ๋ฐค์—
00:58
a group of young black and Latino drag queens
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์ Š์€ ํ‘์ธ๊ณผ ๋ผํ‹ฐ๋…ธ ์—ฌ์žฅ ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค ์—ฌ๋Ÿฟ์ด
01:00
fought back against the police at a gay bar in Manhattan
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์Šคํ†ค์›” ์ธ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋งจํ•ดํŠผ์˜ ๊ฒŒ์ด๋ฐ”์—์„œ
01:04
called the Stonewall Inn,
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๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์—๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•ญํ•ด์„œ ์‹ธ์› ๊ณ ,
01:06
and how this sparked the modern gay rights movement.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทผ๋Œ€ ๊ฒŒ์ด ์ธ๊ถŒ ์šด๋™์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด‰๋ฐœ์‹œ์ผฐ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด์ฃผ์…จ์–ด์š”.
01:10
It was an amazing story, and it piqued my interest.
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์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์–˜๊ธฐ์˜€๊ณ , ์ œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ ์ผ์œผ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:13
So I decided to pick up my tape recorder and find out more.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋…น์Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋” ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:17
With the help of a young archivist named Michael Shirker,
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์ Š์€ ํ™œ๋™๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ดํด ์Šˆ๋ผ์ด์ปค์˜ ๋„์›€์œผ๋กœ
01:21
we tracked down all of the people we could find
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋‚  ๋ฐค ์Šคํ†ค์›” ์ธ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜
01:24
who had been at the Stonewall Inn that night.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ถ”์ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:27
Recording these interviews,
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์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ, ๋งˆ์ดํฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค์‹์œผ๋กœ
01:29
I saw how the microphone gave me the license
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ๊ถŒํ•œ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:32
to go places I otherwise never would have gone
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๋งˆ์ดํฌ ์—†์ด ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์„ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•ด ์ฃผ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
01:34
and talk to people I might not otherwise ever have spoken to.
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๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:38
I had the privilege of getting to know
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์ €๋Š” ์•Œ๊ฒŒ๋˜๋Š” ํŠน๊ถŒ์„ ๋ˆ„๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:40
some of the most amazing, fierce and courageous human beings
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋˜ ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋†€๋ž๊ณ 
๋งน๋ ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฉ๊ฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„์š”.
01:44
I had ever met.
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01:46
It was the first time the story of Stonewall
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์Šคํ†ค์›”์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€
01:48
had been told to a national audience.
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์ „๊ตญ์— ์•Œ๋ ค์ง„ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:50
I dedicated the program to my dad,
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์ €๋Š” ์ด ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ป˜ ๋ฐ”์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:53
it changed my relationship with him, and it changed my life.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊พธ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์ œ ์ธ์ƒ๋„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ดํ›„ 15๋…„์— ๊ฑธ์ณ, ์ €๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ผ๋””์˜ค ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ ,
02:00
Over the next 15 years, I made many more radio documentaries,
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02:03
working to shine a light on people who are rarely heard from in the media.
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๋งค์ฒด์—์„œ ์ข€์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์กฐ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:07
Over and over again,
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์ด ์ผ์„ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ,
02:09
I'd see how this simple act of being interviewed
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์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ํ–‰๋™์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
02:11
could mean so much to people,
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ํฐ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:14
particularly those who had been told that their stories didn't matter.
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ํŠนํžˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋” ๊ทธ๋žฌ์ง€์š”.
02:17
I could literally see people's back straighten
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งˆ์ดํฌ์— ๋Œ€๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๋•Œ
02:20
as they started to speak into the microphone.
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๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋“ฑ์ด ํŽด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:22
In 1998, I made a documentary about the last flophouse hotels
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1998๋…„์— ์ €๋Š” ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋…ธ๋™์ž ํ˜ธํ…”์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:27
on the Bowery in Manhattan.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งจํ•ดํŠผ ๋ฐ”์›Œ๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:29
Guys stayed up in these cheap hotels for decades.
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์ˆ˜์‹ญ๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ด ์ €๋ ดํ•œ ํ˜ธํ…”์—์„œ ๋ฌต์—ˆ๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
02:32
They lived in cubicles the size of prison cells
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๊ฐ๋ฐฉ ์‚ฌ์ด์ฆˆ์˜ ์ž‘์€ ๋ฐฉ์—
02:34
covered with chicken wire
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๋‹ญ์žฅ ์ฒ ์‚ฌ๋กœ ๋ฎ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์— ์‚ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:36
so you couldn't jump from one room into the next.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฐฉ ์‚ฌ์ด๋ฅผ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:39
Later, I wrote a book on the men with the photographer Harvey Wang.
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์ €๋Š” ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ํ•˜๋น„ ์™•์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ง„๊ฐ€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฑ…์„ ์ผ์–ด์š”.
02:43
I remember walking into a flophouse with an early version of the book
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๊ทธ ์ฑ…์˜ ์ดˆํŒ๋ณธ์„ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋™์ž ์ˆ™์†Œ์— ๊ฑธ์–ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”๋˜ ์ผ์ด ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:47
and showing one of the guys his page.
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ํ•œ ๋ช…์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ์˜ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:50
He stood there staring at it in silence,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์กฐ์šฉํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‘์‹œํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์„œ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:52
then he grabbed the book out of my hand
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ์ œ ์†์—์„œ ์ฑ…์„ ๋นผ์•—์•„ ์ฅ๊ณ ,
02:54
and started running down the long, narrow hallway
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์ข๊ณ  ๊ธด ํ™€์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋จธ๋ฆฌ ์œ„๋กœ ์ฑ…์„ ์ฅ๊ณ  ์™ธ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:58
holding it over his head
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02:59
shouting, "I exist! I exist."
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"๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ด์•„์žˆ์–ด! ๋‚˜๋Š” ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค๊ตฌ."
03:04
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
03:08
In many ways, "I exist" became the clarion call for StoryCorps,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด์—์„œ, "๋‚˜๋Š” ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค"๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€
StoryCorps์˜ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ํ˜ธ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:12
this crazy idea that I had a dozen years ago.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ 12๋…„์ „ ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ํ™ฉ๋‹นํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž‘์—…์„
03:16
The thought was to take documentary work
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03:18
and turn it on its head.
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋’ค๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:20
Traditionally, broadcast documentary
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์ „ํ†ต์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐฉ์†ก ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
03:22
has been about recording interviews to create a work of art or entertainment
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์—ฌ์กŒ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋“ค๋ ธ๋˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ด๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ฝ, ๊ต์œก์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
03:26
or education that is seen or heard by a whole lot of people,
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์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:30
but I wanted to try something
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ๊ทธ ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์ด ์ผ์˜
03:32
where the interview itself was the purpose of this work,
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๋ชฉ์ ์ด ๋˜๊ณ , ์ด๋Ÿฐ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š”
03:35
and see if we could give many, many, many people the chance
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๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์•„์ฃผ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€
03:38
to be listened to in this way.
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์‹œ๋„ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 11๋…„์ „ ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์„ผํŠธ๋Ÿด ์—ญ์—
03:41
So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,
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03:44
we built a booth where anyone can come to honor someone else
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์กด๊ฒฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
03:48
by interviewing them about their life.
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๋ถ€์Šค๋ฅผ ์„ค์น˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:51
You come to this booth and you're met by a facilitator who brings you inside.
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์ด ๋ถ€์Šค์— ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋ฉด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๊นŠ์ด ์„ฑ์ฐฐ์‹œํ‚ฌ ๋„์šฐ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:55
You sit across from, say, your grandfather
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€ ๊ฑด๋„ˆํŽธ์— ์•‰์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:57
for close to an hour and you listen and you talk.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋™์•ˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:00
Many people think of it as, if this was to be our last conversation,
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ฃ .
๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ผ๋ฉด, ์ด๋ถ„๊ป˜ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋งํ• ๊นŒ?
04:04
what would I want to ask of and say to this person
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04:07
who means so much to me?
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์ด๋ถ„์€ ๋‚ด๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํฐ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ.
04:09
At the end of the session, you walk away with a copy of the interview
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๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚˜๋ฉด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ์‚ฌ๋ณธ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์„œ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณ ,
04:13
and another copy goes to the American Folklife Center
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋ณธ์€ ๊ตญํšŒ ๋„์„œ๊ด€์— ์œ„์น˜ํ•œ
04:15
at the Library of Congress
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹œ๋ฏผ์ƒํ™œ ์„ผํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋ณด๋‚ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์ฆ์ฆ์ฆ์†์ž๋“ค์€ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์™€
04:18
so that your great-great-great-grandkids can someday get to know your grandfather
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04:22
through his voice and story.
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๊ทธ์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:25
So we open this booth in one of the busiest places in the world
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด ๋ถ€์Šค๋ฅผ ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ
๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋ฐ”์œ ์žฅ์†Œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์— ์„ค์น˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:28
and invite people to have this incredibly intimate conversation
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ
์นœ๊ทผํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ์ดˆ์ฒญํ–ˆ์ง€์š”.
04:32
with another human being.
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04:33
I had no idea if it would work, but from the very beginning, it did.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ฐธ์—ฌํ• ์ง€ ์˜๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์‹œ์ž‘ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ˜์‘์ด ์ข‹์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:38
People treated the experience with incredible respect,
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์ฐธ๊ฐ€์ž๋“ค์€ ์ •์ค‘ํ•œ ์ž์„ธ๋กœ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
04:41
and amazing conversations happened inside.
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๊ทธ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ๋†€๋ž๊ณ ๋„ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:44
I want to play just one animated excerpt
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์• ๋‹ˆ๋ฉ”์ด์…˜์œผ๋กœ ์žฌ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•œ ์งง์€ ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:47
from an interview recorded at that original Grand Central Booth.
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์›๋ž˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์„ผํŠธ๋Ÿด ์—ญ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€์Šค์—์„œ ๋…น์Œํ•œ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ์ธ๋ฐ์š”,
04:50
This is 12-year-old Joshua Littman interviewing his mother, Sarah.
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12์‚ด๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์กฐ์Šˆ์•„ ๋ฆฌํŠธ๋จผ์ด ์ž๊ธฐ ์—„๋งˆ ์„ธ๋ผ๋ฅผ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:55
Josh has Asperger's syndrome.
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์กฐ์‰ฌ๋Š” ์—์Šคํผ๊ฑฐ ์‹ ๋“œ๋กฌ(์žํ์ฆ)์„ ์•“๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:57
As you may know, kids with Asperger's are incredibly smart
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์—์Šคํผ๊ฑฐ ์‹ ๋“œ๋กฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜‘๋˜‘ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
05:00
but have a tough time socially.
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์‚ฌํšŒ์„ฑ์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:02
They usually have obsessions.
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์ง‘์ฐฉ์ด ๊ฐ•ํ•œ๋ฐ,
05:04
In Josh's case, it's with animals,
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์กฐ์‰ฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ง‘์ฐฉ์ด ๊ฐ•ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:06
so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah
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์ž ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋“ค์œผ์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์กฐ์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์ž๊ธฐ ์—„๋งˆ ์„ธ๋ผ์™€
05:09
at Grand Central nine years ago.
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๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์„ผํŠธ๋Ÿด ์—ญ์—์„œ 9๋…„์ „์— ๋‚˜๋ˆˆ ๋Œ€ํ™”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
(Video) Josh Littman: From a scale of one to 10,
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์กฐ์‰ฌ: "1๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 10๊นŒ์ง€๋กœ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•  ๋•Œ,
05:14
do you think your life would be different without animals?
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์— ๋™๋ฌผ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ธ์ƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์กŒ์„๊นŒ์š”?"
05:17
Sarah Littman: I think it would be an eight without animals,
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์„ธ๋ผ: "๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋™๋ฌผ์ด ์—†๋Š” ์‚ถ์€ 8 ์ •๋„ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์• .
05:20
because they add so much pleasure to life.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋™๋ฌผ์€ ์‚ถ์— ํฐ ๊ธฐ์จ์„ ์ฃผ๊ฑฐ๋“ ."
05:22
JL: How else do you think your life would be different without them?
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์กฐ์‰ฌ: "๋˜ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ฌ๋ž์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”?"
05:25
SL: I could do without things like cockroaches and snakes.
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์„ธ๋ผ:"๋ฐ”ํ€ด๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฑ€ ์—†์ด๋Š” ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ฐ™์ด."
05:28
JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes as long as they're not venomous
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์กฐ์‰ฌ: "๋ฑ€์— ๋…์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”. ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด...
05:31
or constrict you or anything.
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์ €๋ฅผ ํœ˜ ๊ฐ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”."
05:32
SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person --
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์„ธ๋ผ:"์‘, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฑ€์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„."
05:34
JL: But cockroach is just the insect we love to hate.
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์กฐ์‰ฌ:"ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ”ํ€ด๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ์ด์—์š”."
05:37
SL: Yeah, it really is.
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์„ธ๋ผ: "๋งž์•„, ์ง„์งœ ๊ทธ๋ž˜."
05:38
JL: Have you ever thought you couldn't cope with having a child?
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์กฐ์‰ฌ: "์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์—†์ด ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณธ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"
05:41
SL: I remember when you were a baby, you had really bad colic,
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์„ธ๋ผ: "๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์•„๊ธฐ์˜€์„ ๋•Œ ์‹ฌํ•œ ๋ฐฐ์•“์ด๋ฅผ ์•“์•˜์„ ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜๋„ค
05:45
so you would just cry and cry.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋„Œ ๊ณ„์† ์šธ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๊ณ ,
05:46
JL: What's colic? SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
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์กฐ์‰ฌ: "๋ฐฐ์•“์ด๊ฐ€ ๋ญ์—์š”?" ์„ธ๋ผ: "๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ณตํ†ต์„ ์•“๋Š”๋ฐ
๋„ค๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ์ง€๋ฅด๋Š”๊ฒƒ ๋ฟ์ธ๊ฑฐ์•ผ. ํ•œ ๋„ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ •๋„."
05:50
and all you do is scream for, like, four hours.
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05:52
JL: Even louder than Amy does?
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์กฐ์‰ฌ: "์—์ด๋ฏธ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์šธ์—ˆ์–ด์š”?"
05:54
SL: You were pretty loud, but Amy's was more high-pitched.
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์„ธ๋ผ: "๊ฝค ์‹œ๋„๋Ÿฌ์› ์ง€๋งŒ, ์—์ด๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์šธ ๋• ๋” ๋‚ ์นด๋กœ์šด ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์•ผ."
05:57
JL: I think it feels like everyone seems to like Amy more,
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์กฐ์‰ฌ: "์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋Š๋ผ๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋“ค ์—์ด๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
06:01
like she's the perfect little angel.
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๊ผญ ๊ฑ”๊ฐ€ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์•„๊ธฐ ์ฒœ์‚ฌ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
06:03
SL: Well, I can understand why you think that people like Amy more,
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์„ธ๋ผ:"์Œ, ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์™œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์—์ด๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋” ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๋Š”์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•ด.
06:07
and I'm not saying it's because of your Asperger's syndrome,
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๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์—์Šคํผ๊ฑฐ ์‹ ๋“œ๋กฌ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ธฐ ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š”,
06:10
but being friendly comes easily to Amy,
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์—์ด๋ฏธ๋Š” ์ƒ๋ƒฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์•ผ.
06:13
whereas I think for you it's more difficult,
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋„ˆ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ณ 
06:15
but the people who take the time to get to know you love you so much.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋“  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋“ค์—ฌ ๋„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด.
06:19
JL: Like Ben or Eric or Carlos? SL: Yeah --
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์กฐ์‰ฌ:"๋ฒค์ด๋‚˜ ์—๋ฆญ, ์นด๋ฅผ๋กœ์Šค ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ?" ์„ธ๋ผ:"๋งž์•„."
06:22
JL: Like I have better quality friends but less quantity? (Laughter)
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์กฐ์‰ฌ: "์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–‘๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฑฐ์—์š”?" (์›ƒ์Œ)
06:26
SL: I wouldn't judge the quality, but I think --
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์„ธ๋ผ: "์งˆ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ธด ์ข€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”,
06:29
JL: I mean, first it was like, Amy loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
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์กฐ์‰ฌ:"๊ทธ์น˜๋งŒ ์—์ด๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋””์•„๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์‹ซ์–ดํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€
06:32
she loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.
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๋˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์‹ซ์–ดํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€
06:34
SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.
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์„ธ๋ผ:"๊ทธ๊ฑด ์—ฌ์ž์• ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹จ๋‹ค, ์•„๊ฐ€์•ผ.
06:36
The important thing for you is that you have a few very good friends,
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๋„ˆ์—๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ ์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์„ ๋’€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
06:40
and really that's what you need in life.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ๊ผญ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ๋ž€๋‹ค."
06:42
JL: Did I turn out to be the son you wanted when I was born?
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์กฐ์‰ฌ:"์ œ๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋žฌ๋˜ ์•„๋“ค์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
06:46
Did I meet your expectations?
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—„๋งˆ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์— ๋ถ€์‘ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?"
06:49
SL: You've exceeded my expectations, sweetie,
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์กฐ์‰ฌ:"๋„ˆ๋Š” ์—„๋งˆ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ ์ด์ƒ์ด๋ž€๋‹ค, ์˜ˆ์œ์•„."
06:52
because, sure, you have these fantasies of what your child's going to be like,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‚˜์˜ ์•„๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿด๊บผ์•ผ ๋ผ๋Š” ํ™˜์ƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ,
06:56
but you have made me grow so much as a parent, because you think --
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๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋กœ์จ ๋งŽ์€ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด. ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด..
07:00
JL: Well, I was the one who made you a parent.
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์กฐ์‰ฌ:"์Œ.. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜์„œ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋œ๊ฑฐ์ž–์•„์š”."
07:02
SL: You were the one who made me a parent. That's a good point. (Laughter)
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์„ธ๋ผ:"๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๋œ๊ฑฐ์ง€. ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ด๋„ค. (์›ƒ์Œ)
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ˆ๋Š” ์œก์•„์„œ์ ์—์„œ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๊ณผ๋Š”
07:06
But also because you think differently
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07:08
from what they tell you in the parenting books,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์•„์ด์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
07:11
I really had to learn to think outside of the box with you,
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๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ํ‚ค์šธ ๋• ์‚ฌ๊ณ ์˜ ํ‹€์„ ๊นจ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋‹จ๋‹ค.
07:14
and it's made me much more creative as a parent and as a person,
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋กœ์จ, ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๋” ์ฐฝ์˜์ ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹จ๋‹ค.
07:19
and I'll always thank you for that.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋„ˆ์—๊ฒŒ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ."
07:21
JL: And that helped when Amy was born?
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์กฐ์‰ฌ:"์—์ด๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”?"
07:22
SL: And that helped when Amy was born, but you are so incredibly special to me
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์„ธ๋ผ:"์—์ด๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ํ‚ค์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ˆ๋Š” ์—„๋งˆํ•œํ…Œ ๋งค์šฐ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•˜๋‹จ๋‹ค.
07:27
and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.
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๋„ค๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ์•„๋“ค์ด๋ผ์„œ ์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ํ–‰์šด์ด์•ผ."
07:31
(Applause)
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07:38
David Isay: After this story ran on public radio,
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์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ณต๊ณต๋ผ๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ฐฉ์†ก ๋œ ํ›„
07:41
Josh received hundreds of letters
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์กฐ์‰ฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์•„์ด์ธ์ง€ ์‘์›ํ•˜๋Š”
07:43
telling him what an amazing kid he was.
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๋ช‡ ๋ฐฑํ†ต์˜ ํŽธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:45
His mom, Sarah, bound them together in a book,
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๊ทธ์˜ ์—„๋งˆ ์„ธ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ทธ ํŽธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์•„ ํ•œ๊ถŒ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฎ์–ด๋†“๊ณ 
07:47
and when Josh got picked on at school, they would read the letters together.
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์กฐ์‰ฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๊ดด๋กญํž˜์„ ๋‹นํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๊ทธ ํŽธ์ง€๋“ค์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ฝ์–ด์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:51
I just want to acknowledge that two of my heroes
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์ €์˜ ์ด ๋‘ ์˜์›…์ด ์˜ค๋Š˜๋ฐค ์ด ์ž๋ฆฌ์—
07:53
are here with us tonight.
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์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:55
Sarah Littman and her son Josh, who is now an honors student in college.
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์„ธ๋ผ ๋ฆฌํŠธ๋จผ๊ณผ ์•„๋“ค ์กฐ์‰ฌ๊ตฌ์š”, ์ด์ œ ์žฅํ•™๊ธˆ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ•™์ƒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:00
(Applause)
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08:03
You know, a lot of people talk about crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
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StoryCorps์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ์‹  ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด
08:07
and it's not because they're sad.
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์šธ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์‹œ์ง€๋งŒ, ์Šฌํผ์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:09
Most of them aren't.
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์Šฌํ”ˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:10
I think it's because you're hearing something authentic and pure
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€
์ง„์‹คํ•˜๊ณ  ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:14
at this moment, when sometimes it's hard to tell
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์ง€๊ธˆ ํ˜„์žฌ, ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ง„์งœ์ธ์ง€ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์ธ์ง€ ๊ฐ€๋”์”ฉ
08:16
what's real and what's an advertisement.
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๊ตฌ๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํž˜๋“ค ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:19
It's kind of the anti-reality TV.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ์•ˆํ‹ฐ-๋ฆฌ์–ผ๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ ์‡ผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
08:21
Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.
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๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ์˜ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
08:23
Nobody comes to get famous.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด ์ง€๋ ค๊ณ  StoryCorps์— ์˜ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:25
It's simply an act of generosity and love.
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๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๊ด€๋Œ€ํ•จ๊ณผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ํ–‰๋™์˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:28
So many of these are just everyday people
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์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด๋ฉฐ
08:31
talking about lives lived with kindness, courage, decency and dignity,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๊ฒช๋Š” ์นœ์ ˆ, ์šฉ๊ธฐ, ํ’ˆ์œ„์™€ ์กด์—„๋“ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:36
and when you hear that kind of story,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ๋•Œ,
08:38
it can sometimes feel like you're walking on holy ground.
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๊ฐ€๋”์”ฉ ์‹ ์„ฑํ•œ ๋•…์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋‚ด ๋”›๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:42
So this experiment in Grand Central worked,
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๊ทธ๋žœ๋“œ ์„ผํŠธ๋Ÿด ์—ญ์—์„œ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง„ ์ด ์‹คํ—˜์€ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:45
and we expanded across the country.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ „๊ตญ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:47
Today, more than 100,000 people in all 50 states
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์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  50๊ฐœ์ฃผ์˜ ์ „ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์žˆ๋Š”
08:50
in thousands of cities and towns across America
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์ฒœ ๋ช‡๊ฐœ๋‚˜ ๋˜๋Š” ๋„์‹œ์˜ 10๋งŒ ๋ช…์ด ๋„˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
08:53
have recorded StoryCorps interviews.
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StoryCorps ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:56
It's now the largest single collection of human voices ever gathered.
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์ด๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ธ๋ฅ˜์—ญ์‚ฌ์ƒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์€ ๋‹จ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ปฌ๋ ‰์…˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:00
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
09:06
We've hired and trained hundreds of facilitators
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๋ฐฑ๋ช…์ด ๋„˜๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ๋„์šฐ๋ฏธ๋“ค์„
09:09
to help guide people through the experience.
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๊ณ ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ํ›ˆ๋ จ์‹œ์ผœ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ์˜ ์„ฑ์ฐฐ์„ ๋•๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:11
Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps
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๋งŽ์€ ๋„์šฐ๋ฏธ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด 1๋…„ ๋‚ด์ง€๋Š” 2๋…„ StoryCorps์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜
09:14
traveling the country, gathering the wisdom of humanity.
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์ผํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด์„œ ์—ฌํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ , ์ธ๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ง€ํ˜œ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜์ง‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:17
They call it bearing witness,
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์„ "์ฆ์ธ์ด ๋˜๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:19
and if you ask them,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
09:21
all of the facilitators will tell you that the most important thing
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ํ•œ๊ฒฐ๊ฐ™์ด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
09:24
they've learned from being present during these interviews
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๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
09:27
is that people are basically good.
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'๋ชจ๋“  ์ธ๊ฐ„์€ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ ํ•˜๋‹ค'๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:30
And I think for the first years of StoryCorps, you could argue
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StoryCorps๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ์ฒซ ํ•ด์—๋Š”
09:33
that there was some kind of a selection bias happening,
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ฐจ๋ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ ๋ณ„ํ•˜์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋น„ํŒ ํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์œผ๋‚˜,
09:36
but after tens of thousands of interviews with every kind of person
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ณณ์˜ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ --
๋ถ€์ž, ๊ฐ€๋‚œํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, 5์‚ด๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 105์‚ด๊นŒ์ง€.
09:39
in every part of the country --
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09:41
rich, poor, five years old to 105,
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80๊ฐœ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋“ค, ์ •์น˜ ์„ฑํ–ฅ๋ฅผ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜์–ด์„œ --
09:44
80 different languages, across the political spectrum --
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์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ํ›„์—
09:49
you have to think that maybe these guys are actually onto something.
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์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ด๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์„๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:53
I've also learned so much from these interviews.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋“ค์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ฐธ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:56
I've learned about the poetry and the wisdom and the grace
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ง์—์„œ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
09:59
that can be found in the words of people all around us
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์‹œ์™€ ์ง€ํ˜œ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ์•„ํ•จ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:02
when we simply take the time to listen,
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋“ค์—ฌ ์กฐ๊ธˆ๋งŒ ๊ท€ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ธ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”.
10:05
like this interview
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๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:09
between a betting clerk in Brooklyn named Danny Perasa
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๋ธŒ๋ฃฉํด๋ฆฐ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์นด์ง€๋…ธ ์ง์› ๋Œ€๋‹ˆ ํŒŒ๋ผ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์•„๋‚ด์ธ
10:12
who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps to talk about his love for her.
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์• ๋‹ˆ๋ฅผ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ ์ฝฅ์Šค๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค์™€ ๊ทธ๋…€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:18
(Audio) Danny Perasa: You see, the thing of it is,
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๋Œ€๋‹ˆ: "์žˆ์ž–์•„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ง์ด์š”
10:20
I always feel guilty when I say "I love you" to you.
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๋‹น์‹ ํ•œํ…Œ "์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฃ„์ฑ…๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๊ปด.
10:23
And I say it so often. I say it to remind you
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ž์ฃผ ๋งํ•ด์„œ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ณด์ž˜ ๊ฒƒ ์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ์ง€
10:26
that as dumpy as I am, it's coming from me.
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์ž๊พธ ๋˜๋‡Œ์ด๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ค€๋‹ค ํ•ด๋„ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์†Œ
10:29
It's like hearing a beautiful song from a busted old radio,
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๋งˆ์น˜ ๋‚ก์•„๋น ์ง€๋„๋ก ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ๋ผ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ํ˜๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์Œ์•…์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
10:32
and it's nice of you to keep the radio around the house.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ผ๋””์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ง‘ ํ•œ์ผ ์— ๋†”๋‘๊ณ  ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค๋‚˜ ์ข‹์ž–์•„."
10:35
Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note on the kitchen table,
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์• ๋‹ˆ:"๋งŒ์•ฝ์— ๋ถ€์—Œ ์‹ํƒ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ ์€ ์ชฝ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์—†์œผ๋ฉด
10:38
I think there's something wrong.
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๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ƒ๊ธด ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ ๊ฐ™์•„.
10:39
You write a love letter to me every morning.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งค์ผ ์•„์นจ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋Ÿฌ๋ธŒ๋ ˆํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ ์–ด์ฃผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ง์˜ˆ์š”."
10:41
DP: Well, the only thing that could possibly be wrong
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๋Œ€๋‹ˆ: "๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ƒ๊ธด๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋ฉด
10:44
is I couldn't find a silly pen.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํŽœ์„ ๋ชป์ฐพ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๋ฟ์ด์ง€."
10:45
AP: To my princess:
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์• ๋‹ˆ: "๋‚˜์˜ ๊ณต์ฃผ์—๊ฒŒ,
10:46
The weather outside today is extremely rainy.
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๋ฐ–์— ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋น„๊ฐ€ ์—„์ฒญ ์Ÿ์•„์ง€๋„ค์š”.
10:49
I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.
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์˜ค์ „ 11์‹œ 20๋ถ„์— ์ „ํ™”ํ• ๊ฒŒ์š”."
10:51
DP: It's a romantic weather report.
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๋Œ€๋‹ˆ: "๋กœ๋งจํ‹ฑํ•œ ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ๋‚ ์”จ ์ž–์†Œ."
10:52
AP: And I love you. I love you. I love you.
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์• ๋‹ˆ: "๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด, ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด, ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด."
10:55
DP: When a guy is happily married, no matter what happens at work,
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๋Œ€๋‹ˆ: "๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ
๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ์ƒํ™œ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋“ ,
10:58
no matter what happens in the rest of the day,
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๊ทธ์˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–  ํ–ˆ๋“  ๊ฐ„์—
11:00
there's a shelter when you get home,
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์ง‘์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‰ผํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
11:02
there's a knowledge knowing that you can hug somebody
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ํฌ์˜น์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ ๋„ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ณ„๋‹จ ๋ฐ‘์œผ๋กœ ๋˜์ง€๋ฉฐ
11:05
without them throwing you downstairs and saying, "Get your hands off me."
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'์† ๋–ผ' ํ•˜๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์ฃ .
11:08
Being married is like having a color television set.
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๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ปฌ๋Ÿฌ ํ…”๋ ˆ๋น„์ „ ์„ธํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•ด์š”.
11:11
You never want to go back to black and white.
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๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ํ‘๋ฐฑ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
11:13
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
11:16
DI: Danny was about five feet tall
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๋Œ€๋‹ˆ์”จ๋Š” 180์ •๋„ ๋˜๋Š” ํ‚ค์—
11:18
with crossed eyes and one single snaggletooth,
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์‚ฌ์‹œ์—๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ด๋นจ๋„ ๋ชป์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:22
but Danny Perasa had more romance in his little pinky
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ์˜ ์•„๊ธฐ ๋ฐœ๊ฐ€๋ฝ์— ํ• ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์˜
11:26
than all of Hollywood's leading men put together.
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๋กœ๋งจ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ•ฉ์ณ ๋†“์€ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋งŽ์€ ๋กœ๋งจ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:29
What else have I learned?
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๋˜ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ๋œ ์ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ƒ๊ณ ์š”?
11:31
I've learned about the almost unimaginable capacity
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์ €๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ์˜ํ˜ผ์ด ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ์ •๋„์˜
11:33
for the human spirit to forgive.
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ํฐ ์šฉ์„œ๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:36
I've learned about resilience and I've learned about strength.
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๋˜ํ•œ ์œ ์—ฐํ•จ๊ณผ ๊ฐ•์ธํ•จ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:39
Like an interview with Oshea Israel and Mary Johnson.
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์˜ค์‰ ์ด์ฆˆ๋ผ์—˜ ๊ณผ ๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ ์กด์Šจ์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ์—์„œ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์˜ˆ์š”.
11:43
When Oshea was a teenager, he murdered Mary's only son,
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์˜ค์‰๊ฐ€ ์‹ญ๋Œ€์˜€์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฐฑ๋‹จ ์‹ธ์›€์—์„œ ๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์˜ ์•„๋“ค์ธ
11:47
Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.
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๋ผ๋ฅด๋ฏธ์–ธ ๋ฒ„๋“œ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:50
A dozen years later, Mary went to prison
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12๋…„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜ ๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ์˜ฅ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
11:52
to meet Oshea and find out who this person was
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์˜ค์‰๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:55
who had taken her son's life.
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ์•„๋“ค์˜ ๋ชฉ์ˆจ์„ ์•—์•„๊ฐ„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
11:58
Slowly and remarkably, they became friends,
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ํ๋ฆ„์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋†€๋ž๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:01
and when he was finally released from the penitentiary,
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์นจ๋‚ด ๊ฐ์˜ฅ์—์„œ ์ถœ์†Œํ•œ ๋’ค์—,
12:03
Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.
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์˜ค์‰๋Š” ๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ์˜ ์˜†์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:07
This is just a short excerpt of a conversation they had
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜ค์‰๊ฐ€ ์ถœ์†Œํ•œ์ง€ ์–ผ๋งˆ ์•ˆ๋˜์–ด
12:10
soon after Oshea was freed.
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๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‚˜๋ˆˆ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ์ทŒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:14
(Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son is no longer here.
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๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ ์กด์Šจ: "๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ณ์€ ์•„๋“ค์€ ์ด์ œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์—†์–ด.
12:17
I didn't see him graduate, and now you're going to college.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์กธ์—…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ชป๋ดค์ง€๋งŒ, ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ด์ œ ๋Œ€ํ•™์„ ๊ฐ€๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
12:20
I'll have the opportunity to see you graduate.
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๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์กธ์—…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ฒ ๋„ค
12:24
I didn't see him get married.
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๊ทธ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ชป๋ดค์ง€๋งŒ,
12:26
Hopefully one day, I'll be able to experience that with you.
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์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€"
12:30
Oshea Israel: Just to hear you say those things and to be
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์˜ค์‰ ์ด์ฆˆ๋ผ์—˜: "๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋ง์”€์„ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„
12:33
in my life in the manner in which you are is my motivation.
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๋˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚ด ์‚ถ์— ์žˆ์–ด์ฃผ์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋™๊ธฐ๋ถ€์—ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์š”.
12:36
It motivates me to make sure that I stay on the right path.
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๋น ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ๊ธธ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋„๋ก ๋ง์ด์—์š”."
12:41
You still believe in me,
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"๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ฏฟ์–ด์ฃผ์‹œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ,
12:43
and the fact that you can do it despite how much pain I caused you,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ณ ํ†ต์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
12:47
it's amazing.
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๋†€๋ผ์›Œ์š”"
12:49
MJ: I know it's not an easy thing to be able to share our story together,
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๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ: "์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‰ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž„์„ ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ"
12:55
even with us sitting here looking at each other right now.
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"๋”๊ตฐ๋‹ค๋‚˜ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์•‰์•„ ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ ๋ง์ด์•ผ."
12:57
I know it's not an easy thing, so I admire that you can do this.
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"์‰ฝ์ง€ ์•Š์€๊ฑฐ ๋‚˜๋„ ์•Œ์•„.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฑธ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ž๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ."
13:03
OI: I love you, lady. MJ: I love you too, son.
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์˜ค์‰: "์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด์š” ์•„์คŒ๋งˆ" ๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ: "๋‚˜๋„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค, ์•„๋“ค์•„."
13:12
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
13:18
DI: And I've been reminded countless times of the courage and goodness of people,
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์šฉ๊ธฐ์™€ ์„ ํ•จ์„ ์…€์ˆ˜ ์—†์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ผ๊นจ์›Œ ์ฃผ๊ณ , ๋˜
13:23
and how the arc of history truly does bend towards justice.
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์—ญ์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ณก์„ ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ •์˜๋กœ์šด ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ํ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:28
Like the story of Alexis Martinez, who was born Arthur Martinez
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์•„์„œ ๋งˆ๋ฅดํ‹ฐ๋„ค์ฆˆ๋กœ ์‹œ์นด๊ณ , ํ•ด๋กค๋“œ ์ดํ‚ค์Šค ํ”„๋กœ์ ์ธ ์—์„œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚œ
13:33
in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.
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์•„์„œ ๋งˆ๋ฅดํ‹ฐ๋„ค์ฆˆ์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:35
In the interview, she talks with her daughter Lesley
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋”ธ ๋ ˆ์Šฌ๋ฆฌ์™€์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ์—์„œ
13:38
about joining a gang as a young man,
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ํ•œ ๋•Œ ์กฐ์งํญ๋ ฅ๋ฐฐ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํ•œ ์ฒญ๋…„์ด
13:40
and later in life transitioning into the woman she was always meant to be.
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๊ทธ์˜ ์šด๋ช…์ธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ์„œ์˜ ์‚ถ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:45
This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.
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์•Œ๋ ‰์‹œ์Šค์™€ ๋”ธ ๋ ˆ์Šฌ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:48
(Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most difficult things for me was
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์•Œ๋ ‰์‹œ์Šค ๋งํ‹ฐ๋„ค์ฆˆ: "๋‚ด๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑด"
13:51
I was always afraid that I wouldn't be allowed
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"๋‚˜๋Š” ์†๋…€๋”ธ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด"
13:54
to be in my granddaughters' lives,
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"ํ—ˆ๋ฝ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์„๊นŒ๋ด ๋‘๋ ค์› ์–ด,"
13:57
and you blew that completely out of the water,
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"ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ˆ์™€ ๋„ค ๋‚จํŽธ,"
13:59
you and your husband.
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"์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋‚ ๋ ค๋ณด๋ƒˆ์ง€"
14:00
One of the fruits of that is, in my relationship with my granddaughters,
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"๋‚˜์™€ ๋‚ด ์†๋…€๋”ธ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„์—์„œ"
14:04
they fight with each other sometimes over whether I'm he or she.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚จ์ž์ธ์ง€ ์—ฌ์ž์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
๊ทธ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹คํˆฌ๊ธด ํ–ˆ์–ด๋„ ๋ง์•ผ."
14:07
Lesley Martinez: But they're free to talk about it.
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๋ ˆ์ฆ๋ฆฌ ๋งํ‹ฐ๋„ค์ฆˆ: "๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑด ์•„์ด๋“ค ์ž์œ ์ฃ ."
14:10
AM: They're free to talk about it, but that, to me, is a miracle.
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์•Œ๋ ‰์‹œ์Šค: "์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ์ž์œ ์ง€, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,๋‚ด๊ฒ, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ธฐ์ ์ด์•ผ."
14:13
LM: You don't have to apologize. You don't have to tiptoe.
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14:16
We're not going to cut you off, and that's something I've always
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๋ ˆ์ฆ๋ฆฌ: "์‚ฌ๊ณผํ•  ํ•„์š”๋„, ์ˆจ์–ด์ง€๋‚ผ ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†์–ด์š”."
14:21
wanted you to just know, that you're loved.
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"์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋‚ด์น˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜"
14:24
AM: You know, I live this every day now.
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"์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„์คฌ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์–ด์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ์š”."
14:26
I walk down the streets as a woman, and I really am at peace with who I am.
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์•Œ๋ ‰์‹œ์Šค: "๋„ˆ๋„ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งค์ผ์„ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹จ๋‹ค."
14:31
I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,
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"ํ•œ ์—ฌ์ž๋กœ์จ ๊ธธ์„ ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ , ์ด์ œ๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ •๋ง ํ‰ํ™”๋กœ์›Œ."
14:34
but now I walk in love and I try to live that way every day.
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"๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ๋” ๋ถ€๋“œ๋Ÿฌ์› ์Œ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,"
14:43
DI: Now I walk in love.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์œผ๋กœ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋งค์ผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด.
14:46
I'm going to tell you a secret about StoryCorps.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์œผ๋กœ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
14:49
It takes some courage to have these conversations.
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์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ ์ฝฅ์Šค์˜ ๋น„๋ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋งํ•ด์ค„๊ฒŒ์š”.
14:53
StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์šฉ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:55
Participants know this recording will be heard long after they're gone.
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์ธ๊ฐ„์€ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์‚ฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
14:59
There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock
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์ฐธ๊ฐ€์ž๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋– ๋‚œ ํ›„์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๊ธฐ๋ก์„ ๋“ค์„๊ฑฐ๋ž€ ๊ฑธ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:02
who has worked closely with us on recording interviews
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์•„์ด๋ผ ๋น„์š•์ด๋ผ๋Š” ํ•œ ์š”์–‘๋ณ‘์› ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:04
with people who are dying.
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์ฃฝ์Œ์„ ์•ž๋‘” ํ™˜์ž๋“ค์„ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ
15:06
He wrote a book called "The Four Things That Matter Most"
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ์ž์ฃผ ์ผ์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด์˜ค์‹  ๋ถ„์ธ๋ฐ์š”.
15:09
about the four things you want to say to the most important people in your life
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"์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋„ค๊ฐ€์ง€" ๋ผ๋Š” ์ฑ…์„ ์“ฐ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:12
before they or you die:
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์ฃฝ๊ธฐ ์ „ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋„ค๊ฐ€์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
15:15
thank you, I love you,
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๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด์š”.
15:18
forgive me, I forgive you.
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๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด์š”,
15:21
They're just about the most powerful words we can say to one another,
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์šฉ์„œํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์šฉ์„œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:25
and often that's what happens in a StoryCorps booth.
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์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ง ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์œ„๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:28
It's a chance to have a sense of closure with someone you care about --
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข…์ข… ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅ์Šค ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:32
no regrets, nothing left unsaid.
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋งค๋“ญ์„ ์ง€์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ์—์š”.
15:34
And it's hard and it takes courage,
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ํ›„ํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋„๋ก, ๊ฐ€์Šด์— ๋‹ด์•„๋‘” ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
15:38
but that's why we're alive, right?
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์–ด๋ ต์ง€๋งŒ ์šฉ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ฃ .
15:43
So, the TED Prize.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ด์œ  ์•„๋‹Œ๊ฐ€์š”? ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
15:45
When I first heard from TED and Chris a few months ago
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ.. TED ํ”„๋ผ์ด์ฆˆ ์ด์ฃ .
15:48
about the possibility of the Prize, I was completely floored.
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๋ช‡๋‹ฌ ์ „ TED์™€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ฒ˜์Œ ์—ฐ๋ฝ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ 
15:52
They asked me to come up with a very brief wish for humanity,
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์ด ์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์–˜๊ธฐ์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋‚˜๋„ ๊ฐ€์Šด์ด ๋ฒ…์ฐผ์–ด์š”.
15:56
no more than 50 words.
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์ธ๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์งง์€ ์†Œ๋ง์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด 50 ๋‹จ์–ด ๋‚ด์™ธ๋กœ
15:57
So I thought about it, I wrote my 50 words,
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๋งํ•ด๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
16:00
and a few weeks later, Chris called and said, "Go for it."
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐ ๋์— 50์ž ์งœ๋ฆฌ ์†Œ๋ง์„ ์ ์–ด๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:05
So here is my wish:
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๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ๋’ค์— ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ™”ํ•ด์„œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ํ•ด๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:08
that you will help us
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ œ ์†Œ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:11
take everything we've learned through StoryCorps
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์Šค์ฝ”๋ฆฌ ์ฝฅ์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„
16:14
and bring it to the world
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์˜จ ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์•Œ๋ ค์„œ
16:16
so that anyone anywhere can easily record a meaningful interview
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ๊ฑด ์•„์ฃผ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์˜๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๊ณ 
16:20
with another human being which will then be archived for history.
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์—ญ์‚ฌ์˜ ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ก์œผ๋กœ ๋‚จ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ฃผ์‹ญ์‚ฌ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:25
How are we going to do that? With this.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ƒ๊ตฌ์š”? ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:30
We're fast moving into a future where everyone in the world
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋กœ ์›€์ง์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:34
will have access to one of these,
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๋ชจ๋“ ์ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฑธ ํ•˜๋‚˜์”ฉ ๋‹ค ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
16:36
and it has powers I never could have imagined 11 years ago
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11๋…„ ์ „ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅ์Šค๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๋•Œ์—๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์ƒ์น˜๋„ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜
16:39
when I started StoryCorps.
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์˜ํ–ฅ๋ ฅ์„ ์ง€๋…”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:41
It has a microphone,
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๋งˆ์ดํฌ๋„ ๋‚ด์žฅ๋˜์–ด์žˆ๊ณ 
16:43
it can tell you how to do things,
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์‚ฌ์šฉ์„ค๋ช…๋„ ์•Œ์•„์„œ ํ•ด์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:45
and it can send audio files.
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์˜ค๋””์˜ค ํŒŒ์ผ๋„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”.
16:48
Those are the key ingredients.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ•„์ˆ˜ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:50
So the first part of the wish is already underway.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์žฌ ์†Œ๋ง์˜ ์ฒซ๋ฒˆ์งธ ํŒŒํŠธ๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์ง„ํ–‰์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:53
Over the past couple of months,
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์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ
16:55
the team at StoryCorps has been working furiously
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์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ ์ฝฅ์Šค๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ๋ถ€์Šค๋ฅผ ์Šค๋งˆํŠธํฐ ์–ดํ”Œ๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
16:58
to create an app that will bring StoryCorps out of our booths
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๋ถ€๋‹จํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:01
so that it can be experienced by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์žฅ์†Œ์™€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ตฌ์• ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:07
Remember, StoryCorps has always been two people and a facilitator
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์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ ์ฝฅ์Šค๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ์ฐธ๊ฐ€์ž์™€ ์˜์›ํžˆ ๊ธฐ๋ก์œผ๋กœ ๋‚จ๋Š”
17:10
helping them record their conversation, which is preserved forever,
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๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋„์šฐ๋ฏธ๋กœ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:14
but at this very moment,
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์ด์ œ
17:16
we're releasing a public beta version of the StoryCorps app.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฒ ํƒ€ ๋ฒ„์ ผ์˜ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅ์Šค ์•ฑ์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๋ ค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:20
The app is a digital facilitator that walks you through
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์ด ์–ดํ”Œ์€ ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ๋„์šฐ๋ฏธ๋กœ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ ์ฝฅ์Šค์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ๊ณผ์ •์„
17:23
the StoryCorps interview process,
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์–ด๋–ค ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๊ณ ๋ฅผ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋„์™€์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:26
helps you pick questions,
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๋˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ํŒ์„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”,
17:27
and gives you all the tips you need
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์˜๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅ์Šค ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•ด์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:29
to record a meaningful StoryCorps interview,
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ํ•œ๋ฒˆ๋งŒ ๋ˆ„๋ฅด๋ฉด ์ €์ ˆ๋กœ ๊ตญํšŒ๋„์„œ๊ด€ ๊ธฐ๋ก๋ณด๊ด€์‹ค๋กœ ์—…๋กœ๋“œ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:32
and then with one tap upload it to our archive at the Library of Congress.
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๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์ธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์‰ฌ์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:38
That's the easy part, the technology.
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์ง„์งœ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:41
The real challenge is up to you:
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์ด ๋„๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์ „ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ, ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๊ฑธ์ณ
17:43
to take this tool and figure out how we can use it
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์“ฐ์ผ์ง€ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด์š”.
17:46
all across America and around the world,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ผ๋…„์— ์ฒœ ๊ฐœ ์ •๋„์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹ 
17:49
so that instead of recording thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
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์ž ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์‹ญ ๋ช‡ ๋งŒ๊ฐœ์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ
17:53
we could potentially record tens of thousands
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๋” ๋งŽ๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ฐฑ ๋งŒ๊ฐœ์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ
17:56
or hundreds of thousands
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋งŽ์ด ๋…น์Œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:58
or maybe even more.
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์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์—ญ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
18:01
Imagine, for example, a national homework assignment
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์ถ”์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์ ˆ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„๋™์•ˆ ์–ด๋ฅธ ํ•œ๋ช…๊ณผ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ผ๋Š” ์ˆ™์ œ
18:05
where every high school student studying U.S. history across the country
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์ „ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ๋‚ด์ค€๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ง์ด์˜ˆ์š”.
18:09
records an interview with an elder over Thanksgiving,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ์ฃผ๋ง ๋™์•ˆ
18:11
so that in one single weekend
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์˜ ์ „ ์„ธ๋Œ€์— ๊ฑธ์นœ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด
18:14
an entire generation of American lives and experiences are captured.
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๊ธฐ๋ก์œผ๋กœ ํฌ์ฐฉ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ง์˜ˆ์š”.
18:19
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
18:27
Or imagine mothers on opposite sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ฐˆ๋“ฑ์˜ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํŽธ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ์ชฝ์—์„œ
18:31
sitting down not to talk about that conflict
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๊ทธ ๊ฐˆ๋“ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
18:34
but to find out who they are as people,
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์ธ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ์จ ์„œ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ ์ž ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
18:37
and in doing so, begin to build bonds of trust;
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์„œ๋กœ์˜ ๋ฏฟ์Œ์„ ์Œ“์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
18:41
or that someday it becomes a tradition all over the world
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ž์‹ ์ด ๊ธฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ ์ฝฅ์Šค ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ
18:44
that people are honored with a StoryCorps interview
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ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚ ์„ ์ „ํ†ต์œผ๋กœ ์ •ํ•ด๋ณด๋Š”๊ฑด ์–ด๋–จ๊นŒ์š”?
18:46
on their 75th birthday;
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75์„ธ ์ƒ์ผ๋‚ ์„ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ•ด์„œ์š”.
18:48
or that people in your community
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ์˜ ์€ํ‡ด์ƒํ™œ์ž๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ์•„ํ”ˆ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค
18:51
go into retirement homes or hospitals or homeless shelters or even prisons
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๋…ธ์ˆ™์ž๋“ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ฃ„์ˆ˜๋“ค์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ
18:56
armed with this app to honor the people least heard in our society
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์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅ์Šค๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ค€๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”.
18:59
and ask them who they are, what they've learned in life,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๊ณ  ๋˜ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€,
19:02
and how they want to be remembered.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ง์˜ˆ์š”.
19:05
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
19:12
Ten years ago, I recorded a StoryCorps interview with my dad
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์‹ญ๋…„์ „ ์ €๋Š” ์ €์˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€ ์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅ์Šค ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:16
who was a psychiatrist, and became a well-known gay activist.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ •์‹ ๊ณผ ์˜์‚ฌ์˜€๊ณ  ์ž˜ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง„ ์„ฑ์†Œ์ˆ˜์ž ์ธ๊ถŒ์šด๋™๊ฐ€ ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:21
This is the picture of us at that interview.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ๋‹น์‹œ์— ์ฐ์€ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:24
I never thought about that recording until a couple of years ago,
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์ฃผ 40์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ์ง„๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์‹ค ์ •๋„๋กœ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜์…จ๋˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋ฅผ
19:27
when my dad, who seemed to be in perfect health
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๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋งŒ ํ•ด๋„ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋…น์Œํ•ด์•ผ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์กฐ์ฐจ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
19:30
and was still seeing patients 40 hours a week,
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์•” ์ง„๋‹จ์„ ๋ฐ›์œผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:33
was diagnosed with cancer.
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๊ทธ ๋ช‡๋…„ ํ›„ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ,
19:35
He passed away very suddenly a few days later.
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์Šคํ†ค์›” ํ˜๋ช…์˜ ๊ธฐ๋…์ผ์ธ
19:39
It was June 28, 2012,
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2012๋…„ 6์›” 28์ผ์ด์˜€์–ด์š”.
19:41
the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์‹  ๊ทธ ๋‚  ์ƒˆ๋ฒฝ ์„ธ์‹œ์—
19:46
I listened to that interview for the first time at three in the morning
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์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:49
on the day that he died.
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์ €๋„ ์ž์‹์ด ๋‘˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
19:51
I have a couple of young kids at home,
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ํ›„์— ๋‚˜์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ๋‚ด๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์šฐ๋š ์„  ์กด์žฌ์ธ
19:53
and I knew that the only way they were going to get to know this person
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๊ทธ๋ถ„์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ๋  ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€
19:56
who was such a towering figure in my life would be through that session.
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์ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ๋ฟ์ด ์—†์„ ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
20:01
I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps any more deeply than I did,
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๊นŠ๊ฒŒ
์Šคํ† ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋†€๋ž์ฃ .
20:05
but it was at that moment
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณธ๋Šฅ์ ์œผ๋กœ
20:06
that I fully and viscerally grasped the importance of making these recordings.
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์ด ๊ธฐ๋ก๋ฌผ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์ค‘์š”์„ฑ์— ๋งค๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๋˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
20:11
Every day, people come up to me
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๋งค์ผ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ์™€์„œ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:13
and say, "I wish I had interviewed my father or my grandmother or my brother,
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"์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ œ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋‚˜ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ ํ˜น์€ ์ €์˜ ํ˜•์ œ๋ฅผ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ•˜๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:18
but I waited too long."
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ ธ์–ด์š”"
20:20
Now, no one has to wait anymore.
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์ง€๊ธˆ, ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆด ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด์š”.
20:22
At this moment,
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ง€๊ธˆ,
20:24
when so much of how we communicate is fleeting and inconsequential,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ๋ง์—†๊ณ  ๋ณด์ž˜๊ฒƒ ์—†์„๋•Œ,
20:27
join us in creating this digital archive
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์ง€์†์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”์˜
20:30
of conversations that are enduring and important.
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์ด ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ์ €์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
20:34
Help us create this gift to our children,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๋กœ์จ
20:37
this testament to who we are as human beings.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•„์ด๋“ค์˜ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋„์™€์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
20:41
I hope you'll help us make this wish come true.
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ด ์†Œ์›์„ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:45
Interview a family member, a friend or even a stranger.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด๋‚˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ ํ˜น์€ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋ณธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋„ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
20:49
Together, we can create an archive of the wisdom of humanity,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ง€ํ˜œ์™€ ์ธ์ •์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ก์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:56
and maybe in doing so,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ์•„๋งˆ๋„,
20:57
we'll learn to listen a little more and shout a little less.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋œ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:01
Maybe these conversations will remind us what's really important.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ์ง„์งœ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ์ง€
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œํ‚ค๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:06
And maybe, just maybe,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ
21:08
it will help us recognize that simple truth
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ์žˆ๋Š”
21:11
that every life, every single life,
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๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์ธ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ์ง„์‹ค์„
21:15
matters equally and infinitely.
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๋™๋“ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์ด๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋„์™€์ค„ ๊ฒƒ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:18
Thank you very much.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:20
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
21:22
Thank you. Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:27
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
21:29
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:31
(Applause)
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๋ฐ•์ˆ˜
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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