Dave Isay: Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear

翻译人员: Yumeng Guo 校对人员: Min WANG

Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case

今晚，我要邀请你爱的人，

that inviting a loved one, a friend or even a stranger

你的朋友，甚至是一个陌生人，

to record a meaningful interview with you

来与你进行一段有意义的访谈，

just might turn out to be one of the most important moments in that person's life,

希望这段对话会是你和他/她此生

and in yours.

最为重要的时刻之一。

When I was 22 years old, I was lucky enough to find my calling

22岁的时候， 在我全身心投入制作广播故事时，

when I fell into making radio stories.

很庆幸，我发现了我毕生所爱。

At almost the exact same time,

几乎是在同时，

I found out that my dad, who I was very, very close to, was gay.

我发现我无比挚爱的父亲，是同性恋。

I was taken completely by surprise.

我十分震惊，无法接受这一事实。

We were a very tight-knit family,

那时我们一家人关系很紧密，

and I was crushed.

我崩溃了。

At some point, in one of our strained conversations,

后来，在一次不安的谈话中，

my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.

我的父亲提到了石墙事件。

He told me that one night in 1969,

他告诉我，1969年的一个晚上，

a group of young black and Latino drag queens

在曼哈顿石墙旅馆的 一个同性恋酒吧里，

fought back against the police at a gay bar in Manhattan

一群年轻的黑人和 拉丁美裔扮装皇后与警察之间

called the Stonewall Inn,

发生了一系列暴力冲突，

and how this sparked the modern gay rights movement.

石墙事件被认为是 现代同性恋权利运动的起点。

It was an amazing story, and it piqued my interest.

这真是一个不可思议的故事， 它激起了我的兴趣。

So I decided to pick up my tape recorder and find out more.

于是我决定拿起我的录音机， 进一步探索。

With the help of a young archivist named Michael Shirker,

在一个名为Michael Shirker的 年轻档案保管员的帮助下，

we tracked down all of the people we could find

我们追踪到了所有能找到的

who had been at the Stonewall Inn that night.

石墙事件的亲历者。

Recording these interviews,

通过录下一段段对话，

I saw how the microphone gave me the license

我意识到麦克风是如何让我

to go places I otherwise never would have gone

前往不曾涉足的地方，

and talk to people I might not otherwise ever have spoken to.

与素未谋面的人对话。

I had the privilege of getting to know

我得以认识那些

some of the most amazing, fierce and courageous human beings

素昧平生的，最不可思议、激进

I had ever met.

和果敢的人。

It was the first time the story of Stonewall

这是这个故事首次被传播给

had been told to a national audience.

整个国家的听众，

I dedicated the program to my dad,

我把它献给我的父亲，

it changed my relationship with him, and it changed my life.

这改变了我跟他的关系， 也改变了我的一生。

Over the next 15 years, I made many more radio documentaries,

随后的15年中，我制作了很多录音，

working to shine a light on people who are rarely heard from in the media.

力求发掘那些被媒体忽视的人们的故事，

Over and over again,

一次又一次

I'd see how this simple act of being interviewed

我见证着，简简单单的访谈，

could mean so much to people,

对某些人来说却意义深远，

particularly those who had been told that their stories didn't matter.

尤其是那些被告知 自己的故事无关紧要的人。

I could literally see people's back straighten

我甚至能看到人们开始对着麦克风

as they started to speak into the microphone.

讲话时后背都绷紧了。

In 1998, I made a documentary about the last flophouse hotels

在1998年， 我探访了曼哈顿Bowery区的

on the Bowery in Manhattan.

最后几家廉价旅馆。

Guys stayed up in these cheap hotels for decades.

那里的人在这些廉价旅馆 住了数十年，

They lived in cubicles the size of prison cells

他们住在牢房大小的小间里，

covered with chicken wire

四周围着铁丝网，

so you couldn't jump from one room into the next.

以防他们窜到其他房间。

Later, I wrote a book on the men with the photographer Harvey Wang.

后来，我与摄像师Harvey Wang一起 基于他们的故事写了本书。

I remember walking into a flophouse with an early version of the book

我记得当我拿着这本书的初版 走进廉价旅馆，

and showing one of the guys his page.

给其中一个人看他的故事时，

He stood there staring at it in silence,

他站在那儿，默默地盯着那几页书，

then he grabbed the book out of my hand

突然从我手中抢去了那本书，

and started running down the long, narrow hallway

在那又长又窄的过道里狂奔，

把书举在头顶，

holding it over his head

shouting, "I exist! I exist."

高声呐喊， ”我是存在的！我是存在的！“

(Applause)

（掌声）

In many ways, "I exist" became the clarion call for StoryCorps,

”我是存在的“通过很多途径 成为了StoryCorps的口号，

this crazy idea that I had a dozen years ago.

StoryCorps是我十多年前 就想到的疯狂的主意。

我的想法是制作纪实作品，

The thought was to take documentary work

and turn it on its head.

并变革它，赋予它新的意义。

Traditionally, broadcast documentary

通常来讲，广播纪实来自于访谈，

has been about recording interviews to create a work of art or entertainment

进而以艺术、娱乐或教育的目的呈现出来，

or education that is seen or heard by a whole lot of people,

以视听的方式传播给每个人。

but I wanted to try something

但我要尝试，

where the interview itself was the purpose of this work,

让访谈本身成为这些作品的目的，

and see if we could give many, many, many people the chance

从而给越来越多的人机会，

to be listened to in this way.

通过这种方式被人知晓。

So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,

因此，11年前，在纽约中央车站，

we built a booth where anyone can come to honor someone else

我们建造了一个亭子， 每个人都可以走进来，

与另外一个人以访谈的方式 表达对彼此的尊敬。

by interviewing them about their life.

You come to this booth and you're met by a facilitator who brings you inside.

你走到这个亭子旁边， 一个工作人员会领你进去，

You sit across from, say, your grandfather

你的对面坐着，比如你的祖父，

for close to an hour and you listen and you talk.

在将近一小时的时间里， 你们互相倾听与交流。

Many people think of it as, if this was to be our last conversation,

许多人是这么想的， 如果这是我们之间最后一次谈话，

what would I want to ask of and say to this person

我会问什么？ 我想对这位对我而言

who means so much to me?

意义非凡的人说些什么？

At the end of the session, you walk away with a copy of the interview

访谈结束后， 你带着一份音像记录离开，

and another copy goes to the American Folklife Center

另有一份将存入美国国会图书馆的

at the Library of Congress

Folklife中心，

这样未来的一天， 你的曾曾曾孙辈就能通过这段音频和故事

so that your great-great-great-grandkids can someday get to know your grandfather

through his voice and story.

了解你的祖父。

So we open this booth in one of the busiest places in the world

就这样，在世界最繁华的地段之一， 我们建立了这个小亭子，

and invite people to have this incredibly intimate conversation

邀请人们与另外一个人完成一段

with another human being.

亲密对话。

I had no idea if it would work, but from the very beginning, it did.

起初我不知道它会不会成功， 但事实上一开始就成功了。

People treated the experience with incredible respect,

人们怀揣崇高的敬意来对待这段经历，

and amazing conversations happened inside.

奇妙的谈话就在里面产生了。

I want to play just one animated excerpt

现在我要播放一段配有动画的节选，

from an interview recorded at that original Grand Central Booth.

来自起初的纽约中央车站 亭子的一个访谈。

This is 12-year-old Joshua Littman interviewing his mother, Sarah.

12岁的Joshua Littman 采访了他的母亲，Sarah。

Josh has Asperger's syndrome.

Josh患有艾斯伯格综合症，

As you may know, kids with Asperger's are incredibly smart

你们或许知道， 患有艾斯伯格综合症的孩子智商超群，

but have a tough time socially.

却很难与人打交道。

They usually have obsessions.

他们通常都有恋物癖。

In Josh's case, it's with animals,

对Josh而言，他迷恋的是动物，

so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah

下面就是来自9年前， Josh与他的妈妈Sarah

at Grand Central nine years ago.

在纽约中央车站的访谈。

(Video) Josh Littman: From a scale of one to 10,

（录音）Josh Littman: 没有动物的话，从1到10衡量，

do you think your life would be different without animals?

你认为你的生活会发生 多大程度上的变化？

Sarah Littman: I think it would be an eight without animals,

Sarah Littman: 如果没有动物，我想应该是8，

because they add so much pleasure to life.

因为它们为我们的生活 增添了这么多欢乐。

JL: How else do you think your life would be different without them?

JL: 若没有动物， 你的生活会变成什么样？

SL: I could do without things like cockroaches and snakes.

SL: 如果没有蟑螂、 蛇之类的动物应该没什么影响。

JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes as long as they're not venomous

JL: 好吧，只要蛇没有毒， 也不会让你吓得四肢瘫软，

or constrict you or anything.

我还是能接受蛇的。

SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person --

SL: 是的，我不是很喜欢蛇——

JL: But cockroach is just the insect we love to hate.

JL: 但我们都很恨讨厌蟑螂。

SL: Yeah, it really is.

SL: 没错，的确是。

JL: Have you ever thought you couldn't cope with having a child?

JL: 你有没有想过养育一个孩子 会让你忙不过来？

SL: I remember when you were a baby, you had really bad colic,

SL: 我记得当你还是个婴儿时， 有一次你患了严重的急腹痛（疝气），

so you would just cry and cry.

你不停地哭啊哭啊。

JL: What's colic? SL: It's when you get this stomach ache

JL: 什么是急腹痛？ SL:就是你的胃会很疼，

and all you do is scream for, like, four hours.

你会一直叫喊，持续好几个钟头。

JL: Even louder than Amy does?

JL: 叫得比Amy还要响吗？

SL: You were pretty loud, but Amy's was more high-pitched.

SL: 你的叫声很响， 但Amy的音调更高一些。

JL: I think it feels like everyone seems to like Amy more,

JL: 我感觉所有人都更喜欢Amy，

like she's the perfect little angel.

她就像一个完美的小天使。

SL: Well, I can understand why you think that people like Amy more,

SL: 我能理解为什么你会觉得 所有人都更喜欢Amy，

and I'm not saying it's because of your Asperger's syndrome,

我并不是说因为你 患有艾斯伯格综合症，

but being friendly comes easily to Amy,

只是因为Amy更容易展现出 友好的一面，

whereas I think for you it's more difficult,

而我觉得对于你而言更难，

but the people who take the time to get to know you love you so much.

但那些花时间去了解 你的人都很喜欢你。

JL: Like Ben or Eric or Carlos? SL: Yeah --

JL: 就像Ben，Eric，或Carlos？ SL: 是的。

JL: Like I have better quality friends but less quantity? (Laughter)

JL: 就是说我的朋友质量更高， 虽然数量少一些？（笑声）

SL: I wouldn't judge the quality, but I think --

SL: 我不会就质量做评论， 但我想——

JL: I mean, first it was like, Amy loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,

JL: 我的意思是，好像最开始 Amy喜欢Claudia，然后又烦Claudia，

she loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.

然后又喜欢Claudia，然后又烦了。

SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.

SL: 亲爱的，那是女孩子的事。

The important thing for you is that you have a few very good friends,

重要的是你有一些 非常要好的朋友，

真的，那才是你生活中需要的。

and really that's what you need in life.

JL: Did I turn out to be the son you wanted when I was born?

JL: 现在的我是那个出生时 你盼望长成的孩子吗？

Did I meet your expectations?

我达到你的期望了吗？

SL: You've exceeded my expectations, sweetie,

SL: 你超出我的预期了，亲爱的，

因为，当然，人都会对自己的孩子 有各种各样的幻想，

because, sure, you have these fantasies of what your child's going to be like,

but you have made me grow so much as a parent, because you think --

但你让作为母亲的我 成长了许多，因为你想——

JL: Well, I was the one who made you a parent.

JL: 是我让你成为了母亲。

SL: You were the one who made me a parent. That's a good point. (Laughter)

SL: 确实是你让我成为了母亲。 这个观点很好。（笑声）

但也是因为你的想法跟

But also because you think differently

那些育儿书上讲的不一样，

from what they tell you in the parenting books,

I really had to learn to think outside of the box with you,

跟你在一起我必须学习 如何让思维冲破牢笼，

and it's made me much more creative as a parent and as a person,

作为一个母亲，作为一个人， 这都让我更富有创造力，

and I'll always thank you for that.

对此我会永远感谢你。

JL: 这在Amy出生时帮助你了吗？

JL: And that helped when Amy was born?

SL: And that helped when Amy was born, but you are so incredibly special to me

SL: 的确， 但你对我而言是无比珍贵和特殊，

and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.

能有你这样的儿子我很幸运。

(Applause)

（掌声）

David Isay: After this story ran on public radio,

David Isay: 当这个故事公开以后，

Josh received hundreds of letters

Josh收到了数百封信，

telling him what an amazing kid he was.

告诉Josh他是多么优秀的孩子。

His mom, Sarah, bound them together in a book,

他的母亲，Sarah， 把这些信捆扎成书，

and when Josh got picked on at school, they would read the letters together.

当Josh在学校被人欺负时， 他们会一起读这些信件。

I just want to acknowledge that two of my heroes

我需要感谢的是，我的这两位英雄

are here with us tonight.

今晚也来到了这里，

Sarah Littman and her son Josh, who is now an honors student in college.

Sarah Littman和她的儿子Josh， Josh现在已经是一名优秀的大学生了。

(Applause)

（掌声）

You know, a lot of people talk about crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,

许多人都说在听到StoryCorps的 一个个故事后会忍不住流泪，

and it's not because they're sad.

并不是因为他们感到悲伤。

Most of them aren't.

大多数都不是。

I think it's because you're hearing something authentic and pure

我想是因为， 在这个真实故事和虚假广告

at this moment, when sometimes it's hard to tell

有时都难以分清的年代，

what's real and what's an advertisement.

你们在StoryCorps听到的 都是真实质朴的故事。

It's kind of the anti-reality TV.

这跟如今的电视节目背道而驰。

Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.

没有人来StoryCorps是为了赚钱，

Nobody comes to get famous.

没有人来是为了出名，

It's simply an act of generosity and love.

这完全是一种出于慷慨和爱的行动。

So many of these are just everyday people

许多故事只是日常生活中

talking about lives lived with kindness, courage, decency and dignity,

人们会谈论的慈爱，勇气，礼仪和尊严，

and when you hear that kind of story,

当你听到这种故事时，

it can sometimes feel like you're walking on holy ground.

有时你会觉得你漫步在神圣的土地上。

So this experiment in Grand Central worked,

纽约中央车站的试验成功了，

and we expanded across the country.

我们就将其拓展到整个国家。

Today, more than 100,000 people in all 50 states

如今，在美国50个州，

in thousands of cities and towns across America

数以千计的城市和乡镇中，

have recorded StoryCorps interviews.

超过十万人在StoryCorps进行了访谈。

It's now the largest single collection of human voices ever gathered.

如今，它已成为世界上 最大的人类声音数据库。

(Applause)

（掌声）

We've hired and trained hundreds of facilitators

我们雇佣并培训了数百名工作人员

to help guide people through the experience.

来协助人们访谈，

Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps

他们中的大多数会服务一到两年，

traveling the country, gathering the wisdom of humanity.

与StoryCorps一起走遍全国， 收集人性散发出的智慧。

They call it bearing witness,

他们称之为见证，

and if you ask them,

如果你问他们，

all of the facilitators will tell you that the most important thing

所有的工作人员都会告诉你 他们在见证这些访谈时

they've learned from being present during these interviews

获得的最重要的启迪是，

is that people are basically good.

人性本善。

And I think for the first years of StoryCorps, you could argue

在StoryCorps出现的第一年， 你或许会说

that there was some kind of a selection bias happening,

走进StoryCorps的人并没有代表性，

but after tens of thousands of interviews with every kind of person

但当来自全国各地的

in every part of the country --

各种各样的人——

rich, poor, five years old to 105,

富人，穷人，5岁到105岁，

80 different languages, across the political spectrum --

80种不同的语言，不同的宗教信仰， 进行了多达数以万计的访谈后——

you have to think that maybe these guys are actually onto something.

你不得不相信这些人或许 都有某种共同的特点。

I've also learned so much from these interviews.

从这么多访谈中，我也收获良多。

I've learned about the poetry and the wisdom and the grace

我意识到，在只要肯花时间倾听，

that can be found in the words of people all around us

我们都能从身边人的言语中

when we simply take the time to listen,

发现诗词般的美，以及智慧与优雅。

like this interview

正如这一则访谈，

between a betting clerk in Brooklyn named Danny Perasa

一名来自布鲁克林的 名叫Danny Perasa的职员，

who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps to talk about his love for her.

把他的夫人Annie带到StoryCorps， 告诉她他有多么爱她。

(Audio) Danny Perasa: You see, the thing of it is,

（录音）Danny Perasa: 你懂的，是这样的，

I always feel guilty when I say "I love you" to you.

每当对你说”我爱你“时 我都有种罪恶感，

And I say it so often. I say it to remind you

而我又那么经常说。 我是想要提醒你

that as dumpy as I am, it's coming from me.

虽然我很挫， 但三个字是我亲口说出来的。

It's like hearing a beautiful song from a busted old radio,

就如同听到锈迹斑斑的收音机里 传出美丽的歌声，

and it's nice of you to keep the radio around the house.

感谢你把这台收音机留在身边。

Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note on the kitchen table,

Annie Perasa: 如果你没在厨房的桌子上留一张纸条，

我会以为是出了什么意外。

I think there's something wrong.

You write a love letter to me every morning.

每天早晨你都会写下 充满爱意的话语。

DP: 唯一可能出差错的就是

DP: Well, the only thing that could possibly be wrong

我找不到一支该死的笔。

AP: 至我的贵妃：

is I couldn't find a silly pen.

AP: To my princess:

今天外面雨下得大，

The weather outside today is extremely rainy.

上午11:20我会给你打电话。

I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.

DP: It's a romantic weather report.

DP: 这真是浪漫的天气预报。

AP: And I love you. I love you. I love you.

AP: 我爱你。我爱你。我爱你。

DP: When a guy is happily married, no matter what happens at work,

DP: 一个男人幸福地结婚之后， 无论工作上发生了什么，

no matter what happens in the rest of the day,

其他时间发生了什么，

there's a shelter when you get home,

家都是温暖的避风港，

there's a knowledge knowing that you can hug somebody

你永远都会知道你可以 拥抱家里的那位，

而不用担心被她踹下楼梯， 被吼到，”把手拿开。“

without them throwing you downstairs and saying, "Get your hands off me."

Being married is like having a color television set.

结婚了就像是有了一台彩色电视机。

You never want to go back to black and white.

你永远都不想再看黑白电视了。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

DI: Danny was about five feet tall

DI: Danny身高只有1米5，

with crossed eyes and one single snaggletooth,

交叉眼，还有一颗龅牙，

but Danny Perasa had more romance in his little pinky

但Danny Perasa小拇指上的浪漫

than all of Hollywood's leading men put together.

要比好莱坞所有男星加起来都多。

What else have I learned?

我还收获了什么感触呢？

我感受到人的体谅之心

I've learned about the almost unimaginable capacity

for the human spirit to forgive.

是如此深沉而隽永。

I've learned about resilience and I've learned about strength.

我感受到人的恢复能力， 我感受到人内心的坚强。

Like an interview with Oshea Israel and Mary Johnson.

正如Oshea Israel和Mary Johnson 之间的这一则访谈。

When Oshea was a teenager, he murdered Mary's only son,

在Oshea还年轻的时候， 在一场帮派斗争中，

Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.

他谋杀了Mary唯一的儿子， Laramiun Byrd。

A dozen years later, Mary went to prison

十余年后，Mary去监狱里

to meet Oshea and find out who this person was

见到了Oshea，见到了这个

who had taken her son's life.

夺走她儿子生命的人。

Slowly and remarkably, they became friends,

渐渐地，令人不可思议的是， 他们成为了朋友，

and when he was finally released from the penitentiary,

最后当Oshea刑满释放后，

Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.

他搬到了Mary家旁边。

This is just a short excerpt of a conversation they had

在Oshea重获自由不久， 他俩完成了一段访谈，

soon after Oshea was freed.

下面是一小段节选。

(Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son is no longer here.

（录音）Mary Hohnson: 我真正的儿子已不在人世，

I didn't see him graduate, and now you're going to college.

我看不到他毕业， 而你现在要去大学读书了，

I'll have the opportunity to see you graduate.

我能有机会看到你毕业。

I didn't see him get married.

我看不到他结婚，

Hopefully one day, I'll be able to experience that with you.

但希望有一天， 我能见证你步入婚姻的殿堂。

Oshea Israel: Just to hear you say those things and to be

Oshea Israel: 仅凭这几句话，

in my life in the manner in which you are is my motivation.

你对我的态度就是我此生的动力。

It motivates me to make sure that I stay on the right path.

你激励我走在正确的道路上，

You still believe in me,

你始终这么信任我。

and the fact that you can do it despite how much pain I caused you,

虽然我给你带来如此大的伤害， 你依旧这么恩慈，

it's amazing.

太不可思议了。

MJ: I know it's not an easy thing to be able to share our story together,

MJ: 我知道， 一起分享我们的故事不是件易事，

even with us sitting here looking at each other right now.

即便现在我们面对面坐着， 我依旧这么觉得。

I know it's not an easy thing, so I admire that you can do this.

我知道这很不容易， 所以你肯分享我们的故事，我很感激。

OI: I love you, lady. MJ: I love you too, son.

OI: 我爱你，夫人。 MJ: 我也爱你，孩子。

(Applause)

（掌声）

DI: And I've been reminded countless times of the courage and goodness of people,

DI: 一次又一次，人们的对话 让我感受到勇气和人性的善良，

and how the arc of history truly does bend towards justice.

让我感受到历史的轨迹 是如何指向正义。

Like the story of Alexis Martinez, who was born Arthur Martinez

下面是Alexis Martinez的故事。 她生于芝加哥市的Harold Ickes公营住宅区，

in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.

原名叫Arthur Martinez。

In the interview, she talks with her daughter Lesley

Alexis与她的女儿Lesley在访谈中谈到

about joining a gang as a young man,

她年轻时曾以男性身份加入了一个帮派，

and later in life transitioning into the woman she was always meant to be.

后来又转换成了她梦寐以求的女性身份。

This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.

请听Alexis和她女儿Lesley的故事。

(Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most difficult things for me was

（录音）Alexis Martinez: 对我而言最艰难的事情之一就是

I was always afraid that I wouldn't be allowed

我总在担心我无法

to be in my granddaughters' lives,

融进孙女的生活，

and you blew that completely out of the water,

你和你的丈夫让这种担心

you and your husband.

彻底烟消云散了。

One of the fruits of that is, in my relationship with my granddaughters,

我跟我孙女们的关系就是成就之一。

they fight with each other sometimes over whether I'm he or she.

她们有时会因为我是男是女而争执起来。

Lesley Martinez: But they're free to talk about it.

Lesley Martinez: 但她们对此畅所欲言啊。

AM: They're free to talk about it, but that, to me, is a miracle.

AM: 她们对此并不忌讳， 但这对我而言就像奇迹一般。

LM: You don't have to apologize. You don't have to tiptoe.

LM: 你不必为此感到愧疚， 你不必为此而畏缩。

We're not going to cut you off, and that's something I've always

我们不会排挤你， 这一直是我想让你知道的，

wanted you to just know, that you're loved.

我们是爱你的。

AM: You know, I live this every day now.

AM: 如今每天我都过着向往的生活，

I walk down the streets as a woman, and I really am at peace with who I am.

以真实的自己走在街上， 对此我感到了内心深处的宁静。

I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,

我是说希望我的声音能更轻柔一些，

but now I walk in love and I try to live that way every day.

但如今爱伴随我左右， 我努力让爱融入生活。

DI: Now I walk in love.

DI: 爱伴随我左右。

I'm going to tell you a secret about StoryCorps.

我要告诉你们一个 关于StoryCorps的秘密。

It takes some courage to have these conversations.

为你们讲述这个秘密需要一些勇气。

StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.

StoryCorps也会对死亡进行访谈。

Participants know this recording will be heard long after they're gone.

来StoryCorps访谈的人知道他们的声音 在百年之后依然会被别人听到。

There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock

临终救济院的一位名为Ira Byock的医生

who has worked closely with us on recording interviews

跟我们有着紧密的合作，

with people who are dying.

来录制那些即将逝去的人的对话。

He wrote a book called "The Four Things That Matter Most"

他出了一本书， 名为《最重要的四件事》，

about the four things you want to say to the most important people in your life

书中描述了人们在面临死亡时，

before they or you die:

有四件事情是最想跟最亲近的人说的：

thank you, I love you,

谢谢你，我爱你，

forgive me, I forgive you.

原谅我，我原谅你。

They're just about the most powerful words we can say to one another,

这正是我们能对另外一个人 所说的最强大的几句话，

and often that's what happens in a StoryCorps booth.

这些话经常出现在StoryCorps的小亭子里。

It's a chance to have a sense of closure with someone you care about --

这是一个与你关心的人 近距离沟通的机会——

no regrets, nothing left unsaid.

不留遗憾，倾吐心扉。

And it's hard and it takes courage,

这不容易，需要勇气，

but that's why we're alive, right?

但这不就是我们活着的意义所在吗？

So, the TED Prize.

下面谈谈TED大奖。

When I first heard from TED and Chris a few months ago

在数月前，当我第一次从Chris和TED方面

about the possibility of the Prize, I was completely floored.

听到我有可能获奖时， 我非常震惊。

They asked me to come up with a very brief wish for humanity,

他们要求我过来， 为人性写一段简短的心愿，

不超过50个词。

no more than 50 words.

So I thought about it, I wrote my 50 words,

我斟酌了一下，写下了50个词，

and a few weeks later, Chris called and said, "Go for it."

几周之后，Chris给我打电话说， ”就这样了。“

So here is my wish:

我的心愿如下：

that you will help us

帮助我们，

take everything we've learned through StoryCorps

携我们所获，继往开来，

and bring it to the world

将StoryCorps带往世界，

so that anyone anywhere can easily record a meaningful interview

让各个角落的人都可以便捷地参与访谈，

with another human being which will then be archived for history.

让这意义非凡的声音存入历史。

How are we going to do that? With this.

如何实现呢？通过这个。

We're fast moving into a future where everyone in the world

在不久得将来，世界上每个人手里

will have access to one of these,

都将有一台手机，

and it has powers I never could have imagined 11 years ago

手机拥有无与伦比的能量， 这在11年前当我创立StoryCorps时

when I started StoryCorps.

是不敢想象的。

It has a microphone,

手机上有麦克风，

it can tell you how to do things,

还能指导你如何录音，

and it can send audio files.

并传送音频文件。

Those are the key ingredients.

这就是全部所需。

So the first part of the wish is already underway.

这个愿望的第一步已经在实现了。

Over the past couple of months,

在过去的数月中，

the team at StoryCorps has been working furiously

StoryCorps的团队夜以继日地 开发了一款APP，

to create an app that will bring StoryCorps out of our booths

将StoryCorps从小亭子带到你手中，

so that it can be experienced by anyone, anywhere, anytime.

任何人随时随地都可以使用。

Remember, StoryCorps has always been two people and a facilitator

请记住，StoryCorps永远是两个人的对话，

helping them record their conversation, which is preserved forever,

外加一个协助者帮助录音， 这个模式不会改变，

but at this very moment,

但此时此刻，

we're releasing a public beta version of the StoryCorps app.

StoryCorps 应用公共测试版本已公开。

The app is a digital facilitator that walks you through

这个应用是电子助手，可以帮助你

the StoryCorps interview process,

完成StoryCorps访谈，

helps you pick questions,

帮助你选取问题，

and gives you all the tips you need

给你一切所需的小窍门，

to record a meaningful StoryCorps interview,

协助你完成一段有意义的访谈，

and then with one tap upload it to our archive at the Library of Congress.

随后一键将音频上传到 国会图书馆的数据库。

That's the easy part, the technology.

技术层面不是难题，

The real challenge is up to you:

真正的挑战在于你们：

to take this tool and figure out how we can use it

下载这个工具， 想办法让全美国的人使用它，

all across America and around the world,

让全世界的人使用它，

so that instead of recording thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,

这样一来不再是每年数以千计的访谈量，

we could potentially record tens of thousands

我们很可能记录数万，

or hundreds of thousands

数十万，

or maybe even more.

或者更多的访谈。

Imagine, for example, a national homework assignment

想象一下， 比如有一个全国范围内的作业，

where every high school student studying U.S. history across the country

全国每一个学习美国历史的 高中生都在感恩节

records an interview with an elder over Thanksgiving,

跟一位老人进行一次访谈，

so that in one single weekend

这样仅用一个周末的时间，

an entire generation of American lives and experiences are captured.

整一代美国人的生活 与经历都会被捕捉到；

(Applause)

（掌声）

Or imagine mothers on opposite sides of a conflict somewhere in the world

或者再设想，世界某个角落 中身处对立面的母亲们，

sitting down not to talk about that conflict

能够坐下来，不去谈论矛盾，

but to find out who they are as people,

而是尝试去了解彼此，

and in doing so, begin to build bonds of trust;

进而建立信任的纽带；

or that someday it becomes a tradition all over the world

或者设想某一天，全世界的人都

that people are honored with a StoryCorps interview

把75岁生日时进行一段StoryCorps访谈

on their 75th birthday;

当成一种习俗；

or that people in your community

或者你的社区里的人

go into retirement homes or hospitals or homeless shelters or even prisons

走进养老院，或医院， 或救济所，甚至是监狱，

armed with this app to honor the people least heard in our society

用StoryCorps访谈的方式 表达对那里很少被社会倾听的人的尊敬，

and ask them who they are, what they've learned in life,

问他们： 你们是谁，你们在生活中有什么收获，

and how they want to be remembered.

你们希望如何被这个世界记住。

(Applause)

（掌声）

Ten years ago, I recorded a StoryCorps interview with my dad

10年前，我与父亲进行了一次 StoryCorps访谈，

who was a psychiatrist, and became a well-known gay activist.

他是一名医师， 也是一个知名的同性恋活动家。

This is the picture of us at that interview.

这是那次访谈的照片。

I never thought about that recording until a couple of years ago,

直到数年前，当我那看起来很健康、

when my dad, who seemed to be in perfect health

依旧保持每周行医40小时的父亲

and was still seeing patients 40 hours a week,

突然被诊断出癌症时，

was diagnosed with cancer.

我才想到了这段访谈。

He passed away very suddenly a few days later.

确诊后没几天，他就撒手而去，

It was June 28, 2012,

那是2012年6月28日，

the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.

石墙事件的纪念日。

他离开那天的凌晨三点，

I listened to that interview for the first time at three in the morning

on the day that he died.

我第一次听那段访谈。

I have a couple of young kids at home,

我家里有几个小孩子，

and I knew that the only way they were going to get to know this person

我知道，他们了解这个在我心目中 无比高尚的人的

who was such a towering figure in my life would be through that session.

唯一方法就是通过这段录音。

I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps any more deeply than I did,

过去我认为我已经对StoryCorps 了解的足够彻底了，

but it was at that moment

但只有在那一刻，

that I fully and viscerally grasped the importance of making these recordings.

我才真正地，发自肺腑地 体会到了制作这些录音的真谛。

Every day, people come up to me

每天，都会有人跟我说，

and say, "I wish I had interviewed my father or my grandmother or my brother,

我多么希望能跟我的父亲， 或祖母，或兄弟进行一次访谈，

but I waited too long."

但我等了太久。

Now, no one has to wait anymore.

如今，没人需要等了。

At this moment,

在这个

人与人之间的沟通交流 变得平淡无奇的年代，

when so much of how we communicate is fleeting and inconsequential,

join us in creating this digital archive

与我们一起，录制一段

of conversations that are enduring and important.

历久弥新且无比珍贵的访谈。

Help us create this gift to our children,

与我们一起， 为我们的孩子制作一份礼物，

this testament to who we are as human beings.

一份展现人类本我的箴言。

I hope you'll help us make this wish come true.

希望你会帮助我们，让它变为现实。

Interview a family member, a friend or even a stranger.

与你的家人，朋友， 甚至是一个陌生人进行一段访谈。

Together, we can create an archive of the wisdom of humanity,

我们一起努力，来收集人类智慧的结晶，

and maybe in doing so,

或许，在这个过程中，

we'll learn to listen a little more and shout a little less.

我们会学着慎言，善听。

Maybe these conversations will remind us what's really important.

或许这些对话会提醒我们 什么才是真正重要的。

And maybe, just maybe,

或许，仅仅是或许，

it will help us recognize that simple truth

这将会帮助我们意识到 一个简单的真理，

that every life, every single life,

众生平等，

matters equally and infinitely.

生命的意义没有极限。

Thank you very much.

非常感谢。

(Applause)

（掌声）

Thank you. Thank you.

谢谢。谢谢。

(Applause)

（掌声）

Thank you.

谢谢。

(Applause)

（掌声）