Can we create new senses for humans? | David Eagleman

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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Mile Živković
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We are built out of very small stuff,
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Građeni smo od sićušnih stvari
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and we are embedded in a very large cosmos,
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i smešteni smo u ogromnom kosmosu,
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and the fact is that we are not very good at understanding reality
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a činjenica je da nismo naročito dobri u razumevanju stvarnosti
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at either of those scales,
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ni na jednom od ova dva nivoa,
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and that's because our brains
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a to je zato što naši mozgovi
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haven't evolved to understand the world at that scale.
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nisu evoluirali da razumeju svet u tim razmerama.
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Instead, we're trapped on this very thin slice of perception
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Umesto toga, zarobljenici smo sitnog parčeta percepcije
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right in the middle.
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koje je tačno na sredini.
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But it gets strange, because even at that slice of reality that we call home,
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Međutim sve je čudnije jer čak i na tom parčetu stvarnosti, zvanom dom,
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we're not seeing most of the action that's going on.
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ne vidimo većinu onoga što se dešava.
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So take the colors of our world.
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Uzmite boje našeg sveta.
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This is light waves, electromagnetic radiation that bounces off objects
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Ovo su svetlosni talasi, elektromagnetska radijacija koja se odbija od objekte
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and it hits specialized receptors in the back of our eyes.
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i pogađa specijalizovane receptore na poleđini naših očiju.
00:57
But we're not seeing all the waves out there.
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No mi ne vidimo sve postojeće talase.
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In fact, what we see
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Zapravo vidimo
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is less than a 10 trillionth of what's out there.
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manje od 10 bilionitog svega što postoji.
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So you have radio waves and microwaves
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Pa vam radio talasi i mikrotalasi
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and X-rays and gamma rays passing through your body right now
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i iks zraci i gama zraci trenutno prolaze kroz telo,
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and you're completely unaware of it,
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a vi uopšte niste svesni toga
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because you don't come with the proper biological receptors
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jer niste rođeni s odgovarajućim biološkim receptorima
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for picking it up.
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koji bi to zapazili.
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There are thousands of cell phone conversations
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Na hiljade razgovora mobilnim telefonima
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passing through you right now,
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trenutno prolazi kroz vas,
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and you're utterly blind to it.
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a vi ste krajnje slepi za to.
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Now, it's not that these things are inherently unseeable.
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Sad, ne radi se o tome da su ove stvari suštinski nevidljive.
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Snakes include some infrared in their reality,
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Stvarnost zmija uključuje nešto infracrvene svetlosti,
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and honeybees include ultraviolet in their view of the world,
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a pčelinji pogled na svet uključuje ultraljubičastu
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and of course we build machines in the dashboards of our cars
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i naravno da ugrađujemo mašine u kontrolne table automobila
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to pick up on signals in the radio frequency range,
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koje primaju signale opsega radijskih frekvencija
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and we built machines in hospitals to pick up on the X-ray range.
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i pravimo mašine u bolnicama koje sakupljaju opseg iks zraka.
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But you can't sense any of those by yourself,
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Međutim, ništa od ovog sami ne možete da osetite,
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at least not yet,
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bar ne za sad
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because you don't come equipped with the proper sensors.
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jer se ne rađate opremljeni odgovarajućim senzorima.
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Now, what this means is that our experience of reality
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Sad, ovo znači da je naše iskustvo stvarnosti
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is constrained by our biology,
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ograničeno našom biologijom,
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and that goes against the common sense notion
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a to se protivi pretpostavci zdravog razuma
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that our eyes and our ears and our fingertips
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da naše oči i naše uši i naši vrhovi prstiju
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are just picking up the objective reality that's out there.
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prosto doživljavaju objektivnu postojeću stvarnost.
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Instead, our brains are sampling just a little bit of the world.
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Umesto toga, naši mozgovi prosto uzimaju uzorke malenog dela sveta.
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Now, across the animal kingdom,
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Sad, širom životinjskog carstva,
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different animals pick up on different parts of reality.
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različite životinje doživljavaju različite delove stvarnosti.
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So in the blind and deaf world of the tick,
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Pa su u slepom i gluvom životu krpelja
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the important signals are temperature and butyric acid;
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važni signali: temperatura i buterna kiselina;
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in the world of the black ghost knifefish,
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u svetu ribe crnog duha,
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its sensory world is lavishly colored by electrical fields;
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njen senzorni svet je bogato obojen električnim poljima;
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and for the echolocating bat,
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a za šišmiša sa eholokatorom,
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its reality is constructed out of air compression waves.
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njegova stvarnost je izgrađena od talasa kompresovanog vazduha.
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That's the slice of their ecosystem that they can pick up on,
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To je parče njihovog ekosistema koji mogu da dožive,
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and we have a word for this in science.
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a mi naučnici imamo reč za to.
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It's called the umwelt,
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Zove se "umwelt",
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which is the German word for the surrounding world.
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to je nemački izraz za svet koji nas okružuje.
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Now, presumably, every animal assumes
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Sad, pretpostavljamo da svaka životinja smatra
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that its umwelt is the entire objective reality out there,
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da je njen umwelt celokupna objektivna stvarnost
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because why would you ever stop to imagine
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jer zašto biste ikad zastali da zamislite
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that there's something beyond what we can sense.
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da postoji nešto mimo naših čula.
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Instead, what we all do is we accept reality
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Umesto toga, svi mi prihvatamo stvarnost
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as it's presented to us.
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onakvu kakva nam se čini.
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Let's do a consciousness-raiser on this.
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Hajde da podignemo svest o ovome.
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Imagine that you are a bloodhound dog.
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Zamislite da ste lovački pas.
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Your whole world is about smelling.
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Vaš čitav svet je od mirisa.
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You've got a long snout that has 200 million scent receptors in it,
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Imate dugu njušku sa 200 miliona receptora
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and you have wet nostrils that attract and trap scent molecules,
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i imate vlažne nozdrve koje privlače i hvataju molekule mirisa,
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and your nostrils even have slits so you can take big nosefuls of air.
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a vaše nozdrve čak imaju proreze da biste mogli duboko da udahnete vazduh.
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Everything is about smell for you.
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Vama se sve vrti oko mirisa.
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So one day, you stop in your tracks with a revelation.
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Pa vas jednog dana otkrovenje zaustavi u hodu.
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You look at your human owner and you think,
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Pogledate u ljudskog vlasnika i pomislite:
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"What is it like to have the pitiful, impoverished nose of a human?
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"Kako je to imati bedan, osiromašen ljudski nos?
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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What is it like when you take a feeble little noseful of air?
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Kako izgleda kad slabašno udahnete malo vazduha punim plućima?
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How can you not know that there's a cat 100 yards away,
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Kako možete da ne znate da je mačka na 90 metara od vas
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or that your neighbor was on this very spot six hours ago?"
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ili da je vaš komšija bio baš na ovom mestu pre šest sati?"
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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So because we're humans,
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Pa, zato što smo ljudska bića,
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we've never experienced that world of smell,
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nikad nismo iskusili taj svet mirisa,
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so we don't miss it,
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te nam ne nedostaje
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because we are firmly settled into our umwelt.
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jer smo čvrsto ukorenjeni u sopstvenom umwelt-u.
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But the question is, do we have to be stuck there?
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No pitanje glasi: moramo li da budemo zaglavljeni tu?
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So as a neuroscientist, I'm interested in the way that technology
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Pa sam kao neuronaučnik zainteresovan za to kako tehnologija
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might expand our umwelt,
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može da proširi naš umwelt
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and how that's going to change the experience of being human.
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i kako će to da promeni naše iskustvo kako je biti čovek.
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So we already know that we can marry our technology to our biology,
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Dakle, već nam je poznato da možemo da venčamo našu tehnologiju i biologiju
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because there are hundreds of thousands of people walking around
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jer imamo na stotine hiljada ljudi koji šetaju okolo
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with artificial hearing and artificial vision.
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s veštačkim sluhom i veštačkim vidom.
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So the way this works is, you take a microphone and you digitize the signal,
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Način na koji ovo radi je: uzmete mikrofon i digitalizujete signal
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and you put an electrode strip directly into the inner ear.
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i stavite trake elektroda direktno u unutrašnje uho.
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Or, with the retinal implant, you take a camera
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Ili kod implanta za mrežnjaču, uzmete kameru
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and you digitize the signal, and then you plug an electrode grid
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i digitalizujete signal, a potom priključite mrežu elektroda
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directly into the optic nerve.
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direktno u optički nerv.
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And as recently as 15 years ago,
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A pre samo 15 godina,
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there were a lot of scientists who thought these technologies wouldn't work.
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mnogi naučnici su smatrali da ove tehnologije neće funkcionisati.
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Why? It's because these technologies speak the language of Silicon Valley,
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Zašto? Zato što ove tehnologije govore jezikom Silikonske doline,
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and it's not exactly the same dialect as our natural biological sense organs.
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a to nije baš dijalekat naših prirodnih bioloških čulnih organa.
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But the fact is that it works;
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Međutim, činjenica je da funkcioniše;
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the brain figures out how to use the signals just fine.
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mozak savršeno razume kako da koristi ove signale.
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Now, how do we understand that?
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Sad, kako da to shvatimo?
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Well, here's the big secret:
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Pa, evo te velike tajne:
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Your brain is not hearing or seeing any of this.
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vaš mozak niti čuje, niti vidi bilo šta od ovoga.
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Your brain is locked in a vault of silence and darkness inside your skull.
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Vaš mozak je zaključan u tihoj i mračnoj odaji unutar vaše lobanje.
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All it ever sees are electrochemical signals
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Sve što on vidi su elektrohemijski signali
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that come in along different data cables,
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koji stižu različitim kanalima za podatke
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and this is all it has to work with, and nothing more.
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i to je sve čime raspolaže, ništa više.
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Now, amazingly,
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Sad, začuđujuće,
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the brain is really good at taking in these signals
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ali mozak je zaista dobar u primanju ovih signala
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and extracting patterns and assigning meaning,
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i u prepoznavanju obrazaca i pripisivanju značenja,
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so that it takes this inner cosmos and puts together a story
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pa on uzima ovaj unutrašnji kosmos i sastavlja priču
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of this, your subjective world.
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o ovom, vašem subjektivnom svetu.
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But here's the key point:
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No, ključna stvar je sledeće:
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Your brain doesn't know, and it doesn't care,
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vaš mozak ne zna i ne mari
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where it gets the data from.
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odakle stižu podaci.
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Whatever information comes in, it just figures out what to do with it.
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Koja god da informacija stigne do njega, on prosto razmatra šta da radi s njom.
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And this is a very efficient kind of machine.
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I ovo je izuzetno efikasna mašina.
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It's essentially a general purpose computing device,
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U suštini, njegova glavna svrha je da bude uređaj za proračunavanje,
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and it just takes in everything
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te on prosto prima sve
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and figures out what it's going to do with it,
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i računa šta će da radi s tim,
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and that, I think, frees up Mother Nature
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a to, verujem, oslobađa majku prirodu
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to tinker around with different sorts of input channels.
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da se vrzma oko različitih vrsta ulaznih kanala.
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So I call this the P.H. model of evolution,
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Dakle, ovo zovem G. K. modelom evolucije
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and I don't want to get too technical here,
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i ne želim da zalazim u tehničke detalje,
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but P.H. stands for Potato Head,
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ali G. K. znači Gospodin Krompirko,
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and I use this name to emphasize that all these sensors
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a koristim ovo ime kako bih naglasio da su svi ovi senzori
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that we know and love, like our eyes and our ears and our fingertips,
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koje poznajemo i volimo, poput naših očiju i ušiju i vrhova prstiju
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these are merely peripheral plug-and-play devices:
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da su to samo periferni uređaji koji automatski rade:
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You stick them in, and you're good to go.
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uključite ih, i nemate problema.
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The brain figures out what to do with the data that comes in.
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Mozak razmatra šta da radi s podacima koji dođu do njega.
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And when you look across the animal kingdom,
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Ako pogledate širom životinjskog carstva,
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you find lots of peripheral devices.
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pronaći ćete mnogo perifernih uređaja.
07:23
So snakes have heat pits with which to detect infrared,
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Zmije imaju toplotne duplje kojima prepoznaju infracrvenu svetlost,
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and the ghost knifefish has electroreceptors,
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a riba crni duh ima elektroreceptore,
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and the star-nosed mole has this appendage
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a zvezdaste krtice imaju taj dodatak
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with 22 fingers on it
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s 22 prsta
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with which it feels around and constructs a 3D model of the world,
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kojima opipavaju okolinu i konstruišu maketu sveta u 3D-u,
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and many birds have magnetite so they can orient
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a mnoge ptice imaju magnetit kojim se orjentišu
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to the magnetic field of the planet.
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prema magnetnom polju planete.
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So what this means is that nature doesn't have to continually
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A to znači da priroda ne mora stalno
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redesign the brain.
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da iznova osmišljava mozak.
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Instead, with the principles of brain operation established,
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Umesto toga, kad jednom uspostavi principe rada mozga,
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all nature has to worry about is designing new peripherals.
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sve oko čega priroda treba da se brine je osmišljavanje novih periferija.
08:01
Okay. So what this means is this:
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U redu. To znači sledeće:
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The lesson that surfaces
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lekcija koja izlazi na površinu
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is that there's nothing really special or fundamental
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je da ništa nije uistinu posebno ili suštinsko
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about the biology that we come to the table with.
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kod biologije koja nam je dostupna.
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It's just what we have inherited
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To je prosto nešto što smo nasledili
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from a complex road of evolution.
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tokom složenog evolutivnog puta.
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But it's not what we have to stick with,
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Međutim, ne moramo se držati toga,
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and our best proof of principle of this
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a najbolji dokaz ovog principa
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comes from what's called sensory substitution.
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dolazi od nečega što se zove zamena čula.
08:26
And that refers to feeding information into the brain
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A to se odnosi na pohranjivanje informacija u mozak
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via unusual sensory channels,
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putem neobičnih čulnih kanala,
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and the brain just figures out what to do with it.
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a mozak prosto razmatra šta da radi s tim.
08:35
Now, that might sound speculative,
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Sad, ovo može da zvuči kao nagađanje,
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but the first paper demonstrating this was published in the journal Nature in 1969.
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ali prvi naučni rad koji je to pokazao je objavljen 1969. u časopisu "Nejčer".
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So a scientist named Paul Bach-y-Rita
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Dakle, naučnik po imenu Pol Bahirita
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put blind people in a modified dental chair,
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je sedao slepe ljude u prepravljenu zubarsku stolicu
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and he set up a video feed,
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i postavljao je video napajanje
08:51
and he put something in front of the camera,
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i stavio bi nešto ispred kamere
08:54
and then you would feel that
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i imali biste osećaj
08:56
poked into your back with a grid of solenoids.
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da vas to bocka u leđa solenoidnom rešetkom.
08:59
So if you wiggle a coffee cup in front of the camera,
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Pa, ako biste protresli šoljicu kafe ispred kamere,
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you're feeling that in your back,
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osetili biste to u vašim leđima
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and amazingly, blind people got pretty good
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i slepi ljudi su postali iznenađujuće dobri
09:07
at being able to determine what was in front of the camera
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u sposobnosti prepoznavanja onoga što se nalazilo ispred kamere,
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just by feeling it in the small of their back.
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prosto osećajući to u donjem delu leđa.
09:14
Now, there have been many modern incarnations of this.
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Sad, imali smo mnogo savremenih otelotvorenja ovoga.
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The sonic glasses take a video feed right in front of you
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Sonične naočare stvaljaju video napajanje direktno ispred vas
09:21
and turn that into a sonic landscape,
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i pretvaraju ga u sonični pejzaž,
09:24
so as things move around, and get closer and farther,
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pa kako se stvari pokreću, približavaju i udaljavaju,
09:26
it sounds like "Bzz, bzz, bzz."
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to zvuči kao: "Bzz, bzz, bzz."
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It sounds like a cacophony,
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Zvuči poput kakofonije,
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but after several weeks, blind people start getting pretty good
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ali nakon nekoliko nedelja, slepi ljudi postaju veoma dobri
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at understanding what's in front of them
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u razabiranju šta se nalazi ispred njih
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just based on what they're hearing.
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samo na osnovu onog što čuju.
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And it doesn't have to be through the ears:
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I ne mora da dolazi preko ušiju:
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this system uses an electrotactile grid on the forehead,
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ovaj sistem koristi elektrotaktilnu rešetku na čelu,
09:45
so whatever's in front of the video feed, you're feeling it on your forehead.
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pa šta god da se nalazi ispred video napajanja, osetite to na vašem čelu.
09:49
Why the forehead? Because you're not using it for much else.
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Zašto na čelu? Jer ga inače ne koristite ni za šta drugo.
09:51
The most modern incarnation is called the brainport,
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Najsavremenije otelotvorenje ovog se zove brejnport,
09:56
and this is a little electrogrid that sits on your tongue,
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a to je malena elektromreža koja se smešta na vaš jezik
09:59
and the video feed gets turned into these little electrotactile signals,
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i video napajanje se pretvara u te malene elektrotaktilne signale,
10:03
and blind people get so good at using this that they can throw a ball into a basket,
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a slepi ljudi su toliko dobri u korišćenju ovog da mogu da ubace loptu u koš
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or they can navigate complex obstacle courses.
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ili mogu da se snalaze u složenim deonicama s preprekama.
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They can come to see through their tongue.
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Mogu da progledaju preko jezika.
10:19
Now, that sounds completely insane, right?
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Sad, to zvuči potpuno nenormalno, zar ne?
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But remember, all vision ever is
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No, upamtite, vid se svodi
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is electrochemical signals coursing around in your brain.
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na elektrohemijske signale koji se kreću po vašem mozgu.
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Your brain doesn't know where the signals come from.
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Vaš mozak ne zna odakle potiču signali.
10:31
It just figures out what to do with them.
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On prosto razmatra šta da radi s njima.
10:34
So my interest in my lab is sensory substitution for the deaf,
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Pa je moje interesovanje u laboratoriji senzorna zamena za gluve
10:40
and this is a project I've undertaken
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i to je projekat koji sam preuzeo
10:43
with a graduate student in my lab, Scott Novich,
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sa studentom Skotom Novičem
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who is spearheading this for his thesis.
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kome je ovo diplomska rad.
10:48
And here is what we wanted to do:
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A evo šta smo želeli da postignemo:
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we wanted to make it so that sound from the world gets converted
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želeli smo da postignemo da se zvuk iz sveta preobrati
10:54
in some way so that a deaf person can understand what is being said.
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na neki način kako bi gluva osoba mogla da razume šta se govori.
10:59
And we wanted to do this, given the power and ubiquity of portable computing,
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A želeli smo da ovo uradimo posredstvom moći i sveprisutnosti prenosivih računara,
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we wanted to make sure that this would run on cell phones and tablets,
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želeli smo da se postaramo da će ovo da radi na mobilnim telefonima i tabletima
11:08
and also we wanted to make this a wearable,
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i takođe smo želeli da ovo bude nosivo,
11:11
something that you could wear under your clothing.
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nešto što možete da nosite ispod odeće.
11:14
So here's the concept.
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Dakle, evo tog koncepta.
11:17
So as I'm speaking, my sound is getting captured by the tablet,
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Kako govorim, zvuk mojih reči beleži tablet,
11:22
and then it's getting mapped onto a vest that's covered in vibratory motors,
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a potom se preslikavaju na prsluk koji je prekriven vibrirajućim motorima,
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just like the motors in your cell phone.
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identičnim onim u vašem mobilnom telefonu.
11:31
So as I'm speaking,
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Pa, dok govorim,
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the sound is getting translated to a pattern of vibration on the vest.
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zvuk se prevodi u vibrirajući obrazac na prsluku.
11:40
Now, this is not just conceptual:
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Sad, ovo nije puki koncept:
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this tablet is transmitting Bluetooth, and I'm wearing the vest right now.
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ovaj tablet odašilja blutut signal i ja upravo nosim taj prsluk.
11:47
So as I'm speaking -- (Applause) --
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Pa, dok govorim - (Aplauz) -
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the sound is getting translated into dynamic patterns of vibration.
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zvuk se prevodi u dinamične obrasce vibracija.
11:55
I'm feeling the sonic world around me.
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Osećam sonični svet oko sebe.
12:01
So, we've been testing this with deaf people now,
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Dakle, testirali smo ovo na gluvim ljudima
12:05
and it turns out that after just a little bit of time,
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i ispostavilo se da nakon veoma kratkog vremena,
12:08
people can start feeling, they can start understanding
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ljudi počnu da osećaju, u stanju su da počnu da razumevaju
12:12
the language of the vest.
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jezik prsluka.
12:14
So this is Jonathan. He's 37 years old. He has a master's degree.
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Ovo je Džonatan. Ima 37 godina. Ima diplomu mastera.
12:19
He was born profoundly deaf,
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Rođen je potpuno gluv,
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which means that there's a part of his umwelt that's unavailable to him.
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što znači da postoji deo njegovog umwelt-a koji mu je nedostupan.
12:26
So we had Jonathan train with the vest for four days, two hours a day,
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Pa smo obučavali Džonatana s prslukom četiri dana, po dva sata dnevno
12:30
and here he is on the fifth day.
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i ovo je on petog dana.
12:33
Scott Novich: You.
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Skot Novič: Ti.
Dejvid Iglman: Dakle, Skot kaže reč, a Džonatan je oseti preko prsluka
12:36
David Eagleman: So Scott says a word, Jonathan feels it on the vest,
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and he writes it on the board.
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i napiše je na tablu.
12:42
SN: Where. Where.
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SN: Gde. Gde.
12:46
DE: Jonathan is able to translate this complicated pattern of vibrations
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DI: Džonatan je u stanju da prevede ovaj komplikovani obrazac vibracija
12:49
into an understanding of what's being said.
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i da razume šta mu se govori.
12:52
SN: Touch. Touch.
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SN: Dodir. Dodir.
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DE: Now, he's not doing this --
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DI: Sad, on to ne radi -
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(Applause) --
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(Aplauz) -
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Jonathan is not doing this consciously, because the patterns are too complicated,
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Džonatan ovo ne radi svesno jer su obrasci suviše komplikovani,
13:12
but his brain is starting to unlock the pattern that allows it to figure out
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ali njegov mozak počinje da dešifruje obrazac koji mu omogućuje da shvati
13:17
what the data mean,
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šta ti podaci znače
13:19
and our expectation is that, after wearing this for about three months,
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i mi očekujemo da će nakon oko tri meseca nošenja ovog prsluka
13:23
he will have a direct perceptual experience of hearing
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da ima direktno percepcijsko iskustvo sluha,
13:28
in the same way that when a blind person passes a finger over braille,
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na isti način kao kad slepa osoba pređe prstom preko Brajevog pisma,
13:32
the meaning comes directly off the page without any conscious intervention at all.
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značenje dolazi direktno sa stranice bez ikakvog svesnog posredovanja.
13:38
Now, this technology has the potential to be a game-changer,
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Sad, ova tehnologija ima potencijal da bude prekretnica
13:42
because the only other solution for deafness is a cochlear implant,
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jer je kohlearni implant jedino drugo rešenje za gluvoću,
13:46
and that requires an invasive surgery.
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a on zahteva invazivnu operaciju.
13:49
And this can be built for 40 times cheaper than a cochlear implant,
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A ovo može da se napravi 40 puta jeftinije od kohlearnog implanta,
13:54
which opens up this technology globally, even for the poorest countries.
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što globalno krči put ovoj tehnologiji, čak i u najsiromašnijim zemljama.
14:00
Now, we've been very encouraged by our results with sensory substitution,
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Sad, izuzetno su nas ohrabrili naši rezultati kod senzorne zamene,
14:05
but what we've been thinking a lot about is sensory addition.
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ali mnogo smo razmišljali o senzornim dodacima.
14:09
How could we use a technology like this to add a completely new kind of sense,
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Kako da koristimo sličnu tehnologiju da dodamo potpuno novi tip čula,
14:14
to expand the human umvelt?
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da proširimo ljudski umwelt?
14:17
For example, could we feed real-time data from the Internet
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Na primer, možemo li u realnom vremenu da pohranjujemo podatke s interneta
14:22
directly into somebody's brain,
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direktno u nečiji mozak
14:24
and can they develop a direct perceptual experience?
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i može li ta osoba da razvije direktno čulno iskustvo?
14:27
So here's an experiment we're doing in the lab.
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Evo jednog eksperimenta koji izvodimo u laboratoriji.
14:30
A subject is feeling a real-time streaming feed from the Net of data
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Subjekat oseća u realnom vremenu tok napajanja s mreže podataka
14:34
for five seconds.
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pet sekundi.
14:36
Then, two buttons appear, and he has to make a choice.
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Potom se pojave dva dugmeta, a on mora da odabere jedno.
14:39
He doesn't know what's going on.
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Ne zna šta se dešava.
14:41
He makes a choice, and he gets feedback after one second.
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Odlučuje i dobija odgovor nakon jedne sekunde.
14:43
Now, here's the thing:
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Sad, evo o čemu se radi:
14:45
The subject has no idea what all the patterns mean,
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subjekat nema predstavu o tome šta obrasci znače,
14:47
but we're seeing if he gets better at figuring out which button to press.
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ali mi primećujemo kad postane bolji u razumevanju toga koje dugme da pritisne.
14:51
He doesn't know that what we're feeding
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On ne zna da mi pohranjujemo
14:53
is real-time data from the stock market,
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podatke sa berze u realnom vremenu,
14:56
and he's making buy and sell decisions.
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a da on odlučuje o kupovini i prodaji.
14:59
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
15:01
And the feedback is telling him whether he did the right thing or not.
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A povratna veza mu saopštava da li je dobro uradio ili ne.
15:04
And what we're seeing is, can we expand the human umvelt
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Proveravamo da li možemo da proširimo ljudski umwelt,
15:07
so that he comes to have, after several weeks,
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tako da on nakon nekoliko nedelja počne da stiče
15:10
a direct perceptual experience of the economic movements of the planet.
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direktno čulno iskustvo ekonomskih kretanja u svetu.
15:16
So we'll report on that later to see how well this goes.
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Pa ćemo vam javiti kasnije da znate kako nam ide.
15:20
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
15:22
Here's another thing we're doing:
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Evo šta još radimo:
15:24
During the talks this morning, we've been automatically scraping Twitter
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Tokom jutrošnjih govora, automatski smo pročešljavali Tviter
15:29
for the TED2015 hashtag,
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za haštag TED2015,
15:31
and we've been doing an automated sentiment analysis,
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i obavljali smo automatizovanu analizu osećanja,
15:34
which means, are people using positive words or negative words or neutral?
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u smislu da li ljudi koriste pozitivne, negativne ili neutralne reči?
15:39
And while this has been going on,
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A dok je to bilo u toku,
15:41
I have been feeling this,
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ja sam to osećao,
15:44
and so I am plugged in to the aggregate emotion
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pa sam priključen na sveukupnu emociju
15:48
of thousands of people in real time,
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na hiljade ljudi u realnom vremenu,
15:52
and that's a new kind of human experience, because now I can know
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a to je novi vid ljudskog iskustva jer sad mogu da znam
15:56
how everyone's doing and how much you're loving this.
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kako se svi osećate i koliko volite ovo.
16:00
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smeh) (Aplauz)
16:06
It's a bigger experience than a human can normally have.
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Ovo iskustvo prevazilazi normalna ljudska iskustva.
16:11
We're also expanding the umvelt of pilots.
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Takođe proširujemo umwelt pilota.
16:14
So in this case, the vest is streaming nine different measures
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U ovom slučaju, prsluk prenosi devet različitih merenja
16:18
from this quadcopter,
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ovog kvadkoptera,
16:20
so pitch and yaw and roll and orientation and heading,
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nagib, skretanje i obrtanje, orjentaciju i pravac
16:23
and that improves this pilot's ability to fly it.
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i to unapređuje pilotovu sposobnost upravljanja.
16:27
It's essentially like he's extending his skin up there, far away.
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U suštini, to je kao produžetak njegove kože visoko gore u daljini.
16:32
And that's just the beginning.
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A to je tek početak.
16:34
What we're envisioning is taking a modern cockpit full of gauges
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Naša zamisao je da uzmemo savremeni kokpit, ispunjen spravama
16:40
and instead of trying to read the whole thing, you feel it.
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i umesto da pokušavate da ga tumačite, osećate ga.
16:44
We live in a world of information now,
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Trenutno živimo u svetu informacija
16:47
and there is a difference between accessing big data
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i postoji razlika u pristupanju podacima
16:51
and experiencing it.
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i njihovom doživljavanju.
16:54
So I think there's really no end to the possibilities
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Smatram da zaista ne postoje granice mogućnostima
16:58
on the horizon for human expansion.
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na horizontu ljudske ekspanzije.
17:00
Just imagine an astronaut being able to feel
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Samo zamislite astronauta koji je u stanju da oseti
17:05
the overall health of the International Space Station,
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sveukupno stanje međunarodne svemirske stanice
17:08
or, for that matter, having you feel the invisible states of your own health,
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ili, s tim u vezi, mogućnost da osetite nevidljiva stanja sopstvenog zdravlja.
17:13
like your blood sugar and the state of your microbiome,
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Poput šećera u krvi i stanja vašeg mikrobioma
17:17
or having 360-degree vision or seeing in infrared or ultraviolet.
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ili da imate vid od 360 stepeni ili da vidite infracrvenu ili ultraljubičastu.
17:23
So the key is this: As we move into the future,
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Ključno je sledeće: kako budemo odmicali u budućnost,
17:26
we're going to increasingly be able to choose our own peripheral devices.
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sve ćemo više da budemo u stanju da izaberemo sopstvene periferne uređaje.
17:31
We no longer have to wait for Mother Nature's sensory gifts
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Više ne moramo da čekamo na čulne darove majke prirode
17:35
on her timescales,
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u njenim vremenskim razmacima,
17:37
but instead, like any good parent, she's given us the tools that we need
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već nam je umesto toga, kao svaki dobar roditelj, dala potrebna oruđa
17:41
to go out and define our own trajectory.
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da se osamostalimo i odredimo sopstvene putanje.
17:45
So the question now is,
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Sada se postavlja pitanje:
17:47
how do you want to go out and experience your universe?
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kako želite da izađete u svet i da doživite sopstveni univerzum?
17:52
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
17:54
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
18:11
Chris Anderson: Can you feel it? DE: Yeah.
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Kris Anderson: Osećaš li to? DI: Da.
18:13
Actually, this was the first time I felt applause on the vest.
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Zapravo, prvi put prslukom osećam aplauz.
18:16
It's nice. It's like a massage. (Laughter)
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Lepo je. Liči na masažu. (Smeh)
18:19
CA: Twitter's going crazy. Twitter's going mad.
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KA: Tviter je poludeo. Van pameti je.
18:22
So that stock market experiment.
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Dakle, taj eksperiment s berzom.
18:25
This could be the first experiment that secures its funding forevermore,
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Ovo bi mogao da bude prvi eksperiment koji je sebi osigurao finansiranje zauvek,
18:29
right, if successful?
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je li tako, ukoliko je uspešan?
18:31
DE: Well, that's right, I wouldn't have to write to NIH anymore.
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DI: Pa, to je tačno, neću nikad više morati da pišem zdravstvu.
18:34
CA: Well look, just to be skeptical for a minute,
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KA: Pazi, budimo skeptični na kratko,
18:37
I mean, this is amazing, but isn't most of the evidence so far
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mislim, ovo je sjajno, ali zar nije većina dosadašnjih dokaza
18:40
that sensory substitution works,
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o tome da zamenska čula funkcionišu,
18:43
not necessarily that sensory addition works?
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ali ne nužno i da čulni dodaci funkcionišu?
18:45
I mean, isn't it possible that the blind person can see through their tongue
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Mislim, je li moguće da slepa osoba može da vidi preko jezika
18:48
because the visual cortex is still there, ready to process,
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zato što je vizuelni korteks i dalje tu, spreman da obrađuje podatke
18:53
and that that is needed as part of it?
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i da je to neophodan deo za to?
18:55
DE: That's a great question. We actually have no idea
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DI: To je sjajno pitanje. Zapravo nemamo pojma
18:58
what the theoretical limits are of what kind of data the brain can take in.
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koja su teoretska ograničenja tipa podataka koje naš mozak može da primi.
19:02
The general story, though, is that it's extraordinarily flexible.
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Opšte je poznato, pak, da je neverovatno fleksibilan.
19:05
So when a person goes blind, what we used to call their visual cortex
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Pa, kada osoba oslepi, ono što smo nekad zvali vizuelnim korteksom
19:09
gets taken over by other things, by touch, by hearing, by vocabulary.
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preuzmu druge stvari: dodir, sluh, jezik.
19:14
So what that tells us is that the cortex is kind of a one-trick pony.
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To nam govori da je korteks mađioničar koji zna jedan trik.
19:18
It just runs certain kinds of computations on things.
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On prosto izvodi određene proračune o stvarima.
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And when we look around at things like braille, for example,
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Ako se osvrnemo na stvari, poput Brajevog pisma, na primer,
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people are getting information through bumps on their fingers.
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ljudi primaju informacije preko jagodica na prstima.
19:27
So I don't think we have any reason to think there's a theoretical limit
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Zato mislim da nema razloga za sumnju da postoje teorijska ograničenja
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that we know the edge of.
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čije su nam granice poznate.
19:33
CA: If this checks out, you're going to be deluged.
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KA: Ako se ovo pokaže, bićeš preplavljen.
19:36
There are so many possible applications for this.
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Toliko je mogućih primena ovoga.
19:39
Are you ready for this? What are you most excited about, the direction it might go?
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Jesi li spreman za to? Koji ti je pravac, kojim ovo može da krene, najuzbudljiviji?
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DE: I mean, I think there's a lot of applications here.
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DI: Mislim da su primene ovoga mnogostruke.
19:46
In terms of beyond sensory substitution, the things I started mentioning
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U smislu mimo zamene za čula, stvari koje sam počeo da nabrajam;
19:49
about astronauts on the space station, they spend a lot of their time
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o astronautima na svemirskim stanicama, provode mnogo vremena
19:54
monitoring things, and they could instead just get what's going on,
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pazeći na sve, a umesto toga bi mogli prosto da osete šta se dešava
19:57
because what this is really good for is multidimensional data.
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jer ovo je zaista odlično za višedimenzionalne podatke.
20:00
The key is this: Our visual systems are good at detecting blobs and edges,
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Ključno je sledeće: naši vizuelni sitemi su dobri u zapažanju grudvica i ivica,
20:05
but they're really bad at what our world has become,
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ali su zaista loši u snalaženju u savremenom svetu,
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which is screens with lots and lots of data.
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koji sadrži ekrane s mnogo, mnogo podataka.
20:10
We have to crawl that with our attentional systems.
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Moramo da milimo kroz to našim sistemima za pažnju.
20:12
So this is a way of just feeling the state of something,
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Pa je ovo način da prosto osetite stanje nečeg,
20:15
just like the way you know the state of your body as you're standing around.
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baš kao što vam je poznato stanje vašeg tela dok stojite.
20:18
So I think heavy machinery, safety, feeling the state of a factory,
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Smatram da će teške mehanizacije, sigurnost, osećanje stanja fabrike,
20:22
of your equipment, that's one place it'll go right away.
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vaše opreme, to je jedno od mesta gde će odmah da se primeni.
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CA: David Eagleman, that was one mind-blowing talk. Thank you very much.
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KA: Dejvide Iglmane, ovo je bio impresivan govor. Mnogo ti hvala.
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DE: Thank you, Chris. (Applause)
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DI: Hvala tebi, Krise. (Aplauz)
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