Stefan Larsson: What doctors can learn from each other

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืžืชืจื’ื: Shlomo Adam ืžื‘ืงืจ: Ido Dekkers
00:12
Five years ago, I was on a sabbatical,
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ืœืคื ื™ 5 ืฉื ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ืฉื ืช-ืฉื‘ืชื•ืŸ,
00:15
and I returned to the medical university
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ื•ื—ื–ืจืชื™ ืœื‘ื™ื”"ืก ืœืจืคื•ืื”
00:17
where I studied.
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ืฉื‘ื• ืœืžื“ืชื™.
00:19
I saw real patients and I wore the white coat
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ืงื™ื‘ืœืชื™ ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืืžื™ืชื™ื™ื ื•ืœื‘ืฉืชื™ ืืช ื”ื—ืœื•ืง ื”ืœื‘ืŸ
00:24
for the first time in 17 years,
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ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžื–ื” 17 ืฉื ื”,
00:26
in fact since I became a management consultant.
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ืœืžืขืฉื”, ืžืื– ื”ืคื›ืชื™ ืœื™ื•ืขืฅ ื ื™ื”ื•ืœื™.
00:30
There were two things that surprised me
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ื”ื™ื• ืฉื ื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉื”ืคืชื™ืขื• ืื•ืชื™
00:32
during the month I spent.
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ื‘ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ืฉื‘ื• ืฉื”ื™ืชื™ ืฉื.
00:34
The first one was that the common theme
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ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืฉื”ื ื™ืžื” ื”ืฉืœื˜ืช
00:36
of the discussions we had were hospital budgets
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ื‘ื“ื™ื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ื”ื™ืชื” ืกื‘ื™ื‘ ืชืงืฆื™ื‘ื™ ื‘ืชื™-ื—ื•ืœื™ื
00:39
and cost-cutting,
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ื•ื”ื•ืจื“ืช ืขืœื•ื™ื•ืช,
00:41
and the second thing, which really bothered me,
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ื•ื”ืฉื ื™, ื•ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื”ื˜ืจื™ื“ ืื•ืชื™,
00:43
actually, was that several of the colleagues I met,
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ื”ื™ื” ื›ืžื” ืžืขืžื™ืชื™, ืฉืื•ืชื ืคื’ืฉืชื™,
00:46
former friends from medical school,
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ื—ื‘ืจื™ื-ืœืฉืขื‘ืจ ืžื‘ื™ื”"ืก ืœืจืคื•ืื”,
00:48
who I knew to be some of the smartest,
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ืฉืื•ืชื ื”ื›ืจืชื™ ื‘ืชื•ืจ ืื—ื“ื™ื ืžืื ืฉื™ื ื”ื—ื›ืžื™ื,
00:50
most motivated, engaged and passionate people
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ื—ื“ื•ืจื™ ื”ืžื•ื˜ื™ื‘ืฆื™ื”, ื”ืžืขื•ืจื‘ื™ื ื•ื”ื ืœื”ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ
00:53
I'd ever met,
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ืฉื”ื›ืจืชื™ ืžืขื•ื“ื™,
00:55
many of them had turned cynical, disengaged,
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ืจื‘ื™ื ืžื”ื ื”ืคื›ื• ืœืฆื™ื ื™ื™ื, ืžื ื•ืชืงื™ื,
00:59
or had distanced themselves from hospital management.
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ืื• ืฉื”ืจื—ื™ืงื• ืขืฆืžื ืžื ื™ื”ื•ืœ ืฉืœ ื‘ืชื™-ื—ื•ืœื™ื.
01:02
So with this focus on cost-cutting,
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ืื– ื›ืฉืื ื• ืžืชืžืงื“ื™ื ื‘ืงื™ืฆื•ืฅ ืขืœื•ื™ื•ืช,
01:05
I asked myself, are we forgetting the patient?
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ื›ืš ืฉืืœืชื™ ืืช ืขืฆืžื™, ื”ืื ืื ื• ืฉื•ื›ื—ื™ื ืืช ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื?
01:09
Many countries that you represent
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ืžื“ื™ื ื•ืช ืจื‘ื•ืช ืฉืืชื ืžื™ื™ืฆื’ื™ื,
01:11
and where I come from
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ื•ื’ื ื–ื• ืฉืžืžื ื” ื‘ืืชื™,
01:13
struggle with the cost of healthcare.
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ื ืื‘ืงื•ืช ื‘ืขืœื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉื™ืจื•ืชื™ ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช.
01:16
It's a big part of the national budgets.
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ื–ื”ื• ืžืจื›ื™ื‘ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ืชืงืฆื™ื‘ื™ื ื”ืœืื•ืžื™ื™ื.
01:19
And many different reforms aim at holding back this growth.
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ื•ืจืคื•ืจืžื•ืช ืจื‘ื•ืช ืžื ืกื•ืช ืœืขืฆื•ืจ ืืช ื”ื’ื™ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ื”ืŸ.
01:22
In some countries, we have long waiting times
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ื‘ืžื“ื™ื ื•ืช ืžืกื•ื™ืžื•ืช ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื–ืžื ื™-ื”ืžืชื ื” ืžืžื•ืฉื›ื™ื
01:24
for patients for surgery.
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ืฉืœ ื—ื•ืœื™ื, ืœื ื™ืชื•ื—ื™ื.
01:27
In other countries, new drugs are not being reimbursed,
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ื‘ืžื“ื™ื ื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช ืื™ืŸ ื›ื™ืกื•ื™ ืขืœ ืชืจื•ืคื•ืช ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช,
01:29
and therefore don't reach patients.
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ื•ืœื›ืŸ ื”ืŸ ืœื ืžื’ื™ืขื•ืช ืืœ ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื.
01:32
In several countries, doctors and nurses
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ื‘ื›ืžื” ืžื“ื™ื ื•ืช, ื”ืจื•ืคืื™ื ื•ื”ืื—ื™ื•ืช
01:34
are the targets, to some extent, for the governments.
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ื”ื ื”ืืฉืžื™ื, ื‘ืžื™ื“ื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžืช. ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ื”ืžืžืฉืœ.
01:38
After all, the costly decisions in health care
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ืื—ืจื™ ื”ื›ืœ, ื”ื”ื—ืœื˜ื•ืช ื”ื™ืงืจื•ืช ื‘ื˜ื™ืคื•ืœ ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืชื™
01:42
are taken by doctors and nurses.
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ืžืชืงื‘ืœื•ืช ืข"ื™ ืจื•ืคืื™ื ื•ืื—ื™ื•ืช.
01:44
You choose an expensive lab test,
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ืืชื ืืœื” ืฉื‘ื•ื—ืจื™ื ืœื‘ืฆืข ื‘ื“ื™ืงืช-ืžืขื‘ื“ื” ื™ืงืจื”,
01:47
you choose to operate on an old and frail patient.
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ืืชื ืืœื” ืฉื‘ื•ื—ืจื™ื ืœื ืชื— ืื™ื–ื” ื—ื•ืœื” ื–ืงืŸ ื•ืฉื‘ืจื™ืจื™.
01:51
So, by limiting the degrees of freedom of physicians,
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ืื– ื”ื’ื‘ืœืช ื—ื•ืคืฉ ื”ืคืขื•ืœื” ืฉืœ ื”ืจื•ืคืื™ื,
01:55
this is a way to hold costs down.
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ื”ื™ื ื“ืจืš ืœืฉืžื•ืจ ืขืœ ืขืœื•ื™ื•ืช ื ืžื•ื›ื•ืช.
01:58
And ultimately, some physicians will say today
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ื•ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ, ื™ืฉ ืจื•ืคืื™ื ืฉื™ื’ื™ื“ื• ื”ื™ื•ื
02:01
that they don't have the full liberty
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ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื”ื ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ืžืœืื”
02:03
to make the choices they think are right for their patients.
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ืœืงื‘ืœ ื”ื—ืœื˜ื•ืช ืฉื‘ืขื™ื ื™ื”ื ืžืชืื™ืžื•ืช ืœื—ื•ืœื™ื ืฉืœื”ื.
02:07
So no wonder that some of my old colleagues
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ืื– ืื™ืŸ ืคืœื ืฉื›ืžื” ืžืขืžื™ืชื™ ืžืฉื›ื‘ืจ
02:09
are frustrated.
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ื”ื ืžืชื•ืกื›ืœื™ื.
02:12
At BCG, we looked at this,
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ื‘"ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ื”ื™ื™ืขื•ืฅ ืฉืœ ื‘ื•ืกื˜ื•ืŸ" ื‘ื“ืงื ื• ืืช ื–ื”,
02:14
and we asked ourselves,
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ื•ืฉืืœื ื• ืืช ืขืฆืžื ื•,
02:16
this can't be the right way of managing healthcare.
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ืœื ื™ื™ืชื›ืŸ ืฉื–ื• ื”ื“ืจืš ื”ื ื›ื•ื ื” ืœื ื”ืœ ืžืขืจื›ืช ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช.
02:19
And so we took a step back and we said,
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ืื– ืฆืขื“ื ื• ืฆืขื“ ืœืื—ื•ืจ ื•ืืžืจื ื•:
02:23
"What is it that we are trying to achieve?"
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"ืžื”ื• ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืื ื• ืžื ืกื™ื ืœื”ืฉื™ื’?"
02:25
Ultimately, in the healthcare system,
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ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ, ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช,
02:27
we're aiming at improving health for the patients,
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ืžื˜ืจืชื ื• ืœืฉืคืจ ืืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื,
02:31
and we need to do so at a limited,
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ื•ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ืืช
02:34
or affordable, cost.
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ื‘ืขืœื•ืช ืžื•ื’ื‘ืœืช ืื• ืืคืฉืจื™ืช ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ื›ืกืคื™ืช.
02:36
We call this value-based healthcare.
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ืื ื• ืžื›ื ื™ื ื–ืืช "ื˜ื™ืคื•ืœ ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืชื™ ืžื‘ื•ืกืก-ืขืจืš".
02:38
On the screen behind me, you see what we mean
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ืขืœ ื”ืžืกืš ืžืื—ื•ืจื™ ืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื ืœืžื” ื›ื•ื•ื ืชื™
02:40
by value:
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ื‘"ืขืจืš":
02:42
outcomes that matter to patients
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ืชื•ืฆืื•ืช ืฉื ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืช ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื
02:44
relative to the money we spend.
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ื‘ื”ืฉื•ื•ืื” ืœื›ืกืฃ ืฉืื ื• ืžื•ืฆื™ืื™ื.
02:47
This was described beautifully in a book in 2006
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ื–ื” ืชื•ืืจ ืœื”ืคืœื™ื ื‘ืกืคืจ ืžืฉื ืช 2006
02:50
by Michael Porter and Elizabeth Teisberg.
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ืžืืช ืžื™ื™ืงืœ ืคื•ืจื˜ืจ ื•ืืœื™ื–ื‘ืช ื˜ื™ื™ืกื‘ืจื’.
02:54
On this picture, you have my father-in-law
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ื‘ืชืžื•ื ื” ื”ื–ื• ืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื ืืช ื—ืžื™,
02:57
surrounded by his three beautiful daughters.
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ื•ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื• ืฉืœื•ืฉืช ื‘ื ื•ืชื™ื• ื”ื™ืคื”ืคื™ื•ืช.
03:01
When we started doing our research at BCG,
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ื›ืฉื”ืชื—ืœื ื• ื‘ืžื—ืงืจ ืฉืœื ื• ื‘ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ื”ื™ื™ืขื•ืฅ ืฉืœ ื‘ื•ืกื˜ื•ืŸ,
03:04
we decided not to look so much at the costs,
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ื”ื—ืœื˜ื ื• ืœื ืœื”ืชืขืกืง ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™ ืขื ื”ืขืœื•ื™ื•ืช,
03:06
but to look at the quality instead,
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ืืœื ืœื‘ื—ื•ืŸ ืืช ื”ืื™ื›ื•ืช.
03:09
and in the research, one of the things
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ื•ื‘ืžื—ืงืจ, ืื—ื“ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื
03:11
that fascinated us was the variation we saw.
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ืฉืจื™ืชืงื• ืื•ืชื ื• ื”ื™ื” ื”ื”ื‘ื“ืœื™ื ืฉืจืื™ื ื•.
03:14
You compare hospitals in a country,
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ืื ืชืฉื•ื• ื‘ืชื™-ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื‘ืžื“ื™ื ื” ื›ืœืฉื”ื™,
03:17
you'll find some that are extremely good,
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ืชื’ืœื• ืฉื—ืœืงื ืžืžืฉ ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื,
03:19
but you'll find a large number that are vastly much worse.
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ืื‘ืœ ืชืžืฆืื• ื’ื ื”ืžื•ืŸ ื‘ืชื™-ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื’ืจื•ืขื™ื ื‘ื”ืจื‘ื”.
03:22
The differences were dramatic.
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ื”ื”ื‘ื“ืœื™ื ื”ื™ื• ื“ืจืžื˜ื™ื™ื.
03:25
Erik, my father-in-law,
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ืืจื™ืง, ื—ืžื™,
03:27
he suffers from prostate cancer,
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ืกื‘ืœ ืžืกืจื˜ืŸ ื”ืขืจืžื•ื ื™ืช,
03:29
and he probably needs surgery.
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ื•ืกื‘ื™ืจ ืœื”ื ื™ื— ืฉื ื–ืงืง ืœื ื™ืชื•ื—.
03:32
Now living in Europe, he can choose to go to Germany
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ืžื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื•ื ื—ื™ ื”ื™ื•ื ื‘ืื™ืจื•ืคื”, ื‘ืืคืฉืจื•ืชื• ืœื ืกื•ืข ืœื’ืจืžื ื™ื”
03:34
that has a well-reputed healthcare system.
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ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื” ืฉื™ืจื•ืชื™ ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช ื‘ืขืœื™ ืžื•ื ื™ื˜ื™ืŸ ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื.
03:38
If he goes there and goes to the average hospital,
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ืื ื™ื™ืœืš ืœืฉื ื•ื™ื™ื›ื ืก ืœื‘ื™ืช ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื”ืžืžื•ืฆืข,
03:42
he will have the risk of becoming incontinent
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ื”ืกื™ื›ื•ื™ ืฉืœื• ืœืื‘ื“ ืืช ื›ื•ืฉืจ ื”ื”ืชืืคืงื•ืช ืฉืœื•
03:46
by about 50 percent,
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ื”ื•ื ื›-50%,
03:48
so he would have to start wearing diapers again.
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ื•ื™ื”ื™ื” ืขืœื™ื• ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืฉื•ื‘ ืœืœื‘ื•ืฉ ื—ื™ืชื•ืœ.
03:51
You flip a coin. Fifty percent risk. That's quite a lot.
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ื–ื• ื”ื˜ืœืช ืžื˜ื‘ืข. ืกื™ื›ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ 50%. ื–ื” ื“ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื”.
03:55
If he instead would go to Hamburg,
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ื‘ืžืงื•ื ื–ื”, ืื ื™ื—ืœื™ื˜ ืœืœื›ืช ืœื”ืžื‘ื•ืจื’,
03:57
and to a clinic called the Martini-Klinik,
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ืœืžืจืคืื” ื‘ืฉื "ืžืจื˜ื™ื ื™ ืงืœื™ื ื™ืง",
04:00
the risk would be only one in 20.
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ื”ืกื™ื›ื•ืŸ ื™ื”ื™ื” ืจืง 1 ืœ-20.
04:03
Either you a flip a coin,
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ื”ื‘ืจื™ืจื” ื”ื™ื ืื• ื”ื˜ืœืช ืžื˜ื‘ืข,
04:04
or you have a one in 20 risk.
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ืื• ืกื™ื›ื•ืŸ ืฉืœ 1 ืœ-20.
04:06
That's a huge difference, a seven-fold difference.
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ื–ื”ื• ื”ื‘ื“ืœ ืขืฆื•ื, ื”ื‘ื“ืœ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืคื™ 7.
04:10
When we look at many hospitals
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ื›ืฉืื ื• ื‘ื•ื—ื ื™ื ื‘ืชื™-ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื
04:12
for many different diseases,
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ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืœืžื—ืœื•ืช ืจื‘ื•ืช,
04:13
we see these huge differences.
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ืื ื• ืžื•ืฆืื™ื ื”ื‘ื“ืœื™ื ืขืฆื•ืžื™ื ื›ืืœื”.
04:16
But you and I don't know. We don't have the data.
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ืื‘ืœ ืืชื ื•ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ื–ืืช. ืื™ืŸ ืœื ื• ื”ื ืชื•ื ื™ื.
04:19
And often, the data actually doesn't exist.
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ื•ืœืขืชื™ื ืงืจื•ื‘ื•ืช, ื”ื ืชื•ื ื™ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืœื ืงื™ื™ืžื™ื.
04:21
Nobody knows.
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ืื™ืฉ ืื™ื ื ื• ื™ื•ื“ืข.
04:23
So going the hospital is a lottery.
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ื›ืš ืฉื‘ื—ื™ืจื” ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืžืกื•ื™ื ื”ื™ื ื”ื’ืจืœื”.
04:27
Now, it doesn't have to be that way. There is hope.
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ื–ื” ืœื ื—ื™ื™ื‘ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ืš. ื™ืฉ ืชืงื•ื•ื”.
04:32
In the late '70s, there were a group
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ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืฉื ื•ืช ื”-70 ื”ื™ืชื” ืงื‘ื•ืฆื”
04:34
of Swedish orthopedic surgeons
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ืฉืœ ืžื ืชื—ื™ื ืื•ืจื˜ื•ืคื“ื™ื™ื ืฉื•ื•ื“ื™ื™ื,
04:37
who met at their annual meeting,
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ืฉื”ืชื›ื ืกื• ืœืžืคื’ืฉ ื”ืฉื ืชื™ ืฉืœื”ื,
04:38
and they were discussing the different procedures
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ื•ื”ื ื“ื ื• ื‘ื ื”ืœื™ื ื”ืฉื•ื ื™ื
04:40
they used to operate hip surgery.
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ืฉื‘ื”ื ื”ื ืžื ืชื—ื™ื ืืช ืžื™ืคืจืง ื”ื™ืจืš.
04:44
To the left of this slide, you see a variety
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ื‘ืฆื“ ืฉืžืืœ ืฉืœ ื”ืฉืงื•ืคื™ืช ืืช ืจื•ืื™ื ืžื’ื•ื•ืŸ
04:45
of metal pieces, artificial hips that you would use
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ืฉืœ ืคื™ืกื•ืช ืžืชื›ืช, ืžื™ืคืจืงื™ื ืžืœืื›ื•ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ื”ื ื”ืฉืชืžืฉื•
04:48
for somebody who needs a new hip.
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ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืžื™ ืฉื ื–ืงืงื• ืœืžื™ืคืจืง ื™ืจืš ื—ื“ืฉ.
04:51
They all realized they had their individual way of operating.
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ื”ื ืชืคืฉื• ืฉื›ื•ืœื ืžืฉืชืžืฉื™ื ื‘ืฉื™ื˜ื•ืช ื ื™ืชื•ื— ืฉื•ื ื•ืช.
04:55
They all argued that, "My technique is the best,"
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ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ื˜ืขืŸ: "ื”ื˜ื›ื ื™ืงื” ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ื”,"
04:57
but none of them actually knew, and they admitted that.
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ืืš ืื™ืฉ ืžื”ื ืœื ื™ื“ืข ืœื‘ื˜ื—, ื•ื›ื•ืœื ื”ื•ื“ื• ื‘ื›ืš.
05:00
So they said, "We probably need to measure quality
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ืœื›ืŸ ื”ื ืืžืจื•: "ื›ื ืจืื” ืฉืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืžื“ื•ื“ ืืช ื”ืื™ื›ื•ืช
05:04
so we know and can learn from what's best."
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ื›ื“ื™ ืฉื ื“ืข ืžื”ื™ ื•ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืžื”ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ."
05:08
So they in fact spent two years debating,
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ื•ื”ื ืœืžืขืฉื” ื‘ื™ืœื• ืฉื ืชื™ื™ื ื‘ื•ื•ื™ื›ื•ื—ื™ื,
05:11
"So what is quality in hip surgery?"
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"ืžื”ื™ ืื™ื›ื•ืช ื‘ื ื™ืชื•ื— ืžื™ืคืจืง ื”ื™ืจืš?"
05:13
"Oh, we should measure this." "No, we should measure that."
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"ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืžื“ื•ื“ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื–ื”," "ืœื, ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืžื“ื•ื“ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื”ื•ื."
05:16
And they finally agreed.
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ื•ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœื”ืกื›ืžื”.
05:18
And once they had agreed, they started measuring,
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ื•ืžืจื’ืข ืฉื”ืกื›ื™ืžื•, ื”ื ื”ื—ืœื• ืœืžื“ื•ื“,
05:20
and started sharing the data.
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ื•ื”ื—ืœื• ืœื—ืœื•ืง ืืช ื”ื ืชื•ื ื™ื.
05:23
Very quickly, they found that if you put cement
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ื‘ืžื”ืจื” ื”ื ื’ื™ืœื• ืฉืื ืฉืžื™ื ืžืœื˜
05:25
in the bone of the patient
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ื‘ืขืฆื ืฉืœ ื”ื—ื•ืœื”,
05:27
before you put the metal shaft in,
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ืœืคื ื™ ืฉืžื›ื ื™ืกื™ื ืืช ืžื•ื˜ ื”ืžืชื›ืช,
05:29
it actually lasted a lot longer,
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ื–ื” ืœืžืขืฉื” ืžื—ื–ื™ืง ืžืขืžื“ ื–ืžืŸ ืจื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ,
05:31
and most patients would never have to be
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ื•ืจื•ื‘ ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืœืขื•ืœื ืœื ื™ื–ื“ืงืงื•
05:33
re-operated on in their lifetime.
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ืœื ื™ืชื•ื— ื—ื•ื–ืจ ื‘ืฉืืจื™ืช ื—ื™ื™ื”ื.
05:35
They published the data,
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ื”ื ืคื™ืจืกืžื• ืืช ื”ื ืชื•ื ื™ื,
05:37
and it actually transformed clinical practice in the country.
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ื•ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ืฉื™ื ื” ืืช ืคื ื™ ื”ื˜ื™ืคื•ืœ ื”ืจืคื•ืื™ ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืืจืฅ.
05:40
Everybody saw this makes a lot of sense.
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ื›ื•ืœื ืจืื• ืฉื™ืฉ ื‘ื›ืš ื˜ืขื ืจื‘.
05:43
Since then, they publish every year.
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ืžืื–, ื”ื ืžืคืจืกืžื™ื ืžื™ื“ื™ ืฉื ื”.
05:46
Once a year, they publish the league table:
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ืื—ืช ืœืฉื ื” ื”ื ืžืคืจืกืžื™ื ืืช ื˜ื‘ืœืช ื”ืœื™ื’ื” ืฉืœื”ื:
05:47
who's best, who's at the bottom?
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ืžื™ ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘? ืžื™ ื ืžืฆื ื‘ืชื—ืชื™ืช?
05:50
And they visit each other to try to learn,
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ื•ื”ื ืžื‘ืงืจื™ื ื–ื” ืืฆืœ ื–ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื ืกื•ืช ืœื”ื—ื›ื™ื,
05:53
so a continuous cycle of improvement.
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ื›ืš ืฉื–ื”ื• ืžื—ื–ื•ืจ ืžืชืžื™ื“ ืฉืœ ืฉื™ืคื•ืจ.
05:56
For many years, Swedish hip surgeons
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ื‘ืžืฉืš ืฉื ื™ื ืจื‘ื•ืช, ืžื ืชื—ื™ ืžื™ืคืจืง ื”ื™ืจืš ื”ืฉื•ื•ื“ื™ื™ื
05:59
had the best results in the world,
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ื”ืฉื™ื’ื• ืืช ื”ืชื•ืฆืื•ืช ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ื•ืช ื‘ืขื•ืœื,
06:02
at least for those who actually were measuring,
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ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืืฆืœ ืžื™ ืฉืื›ืŸ ืžื“ื“ื• ื‘ื™ืฆื•ืขื™ื,
06:04
and many were not.
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ื•ื‘ื™ืฆื•ืขื™ื”ื ืฉืœ ืจื‘ื™ื ืœื ื ืžื“ื“ื•.
06:07
Now I found this principle really exciting.
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ื‘ืขื™ื ื™, ื”ืขืงืจื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืžืœื”ื™ื‘.
06:09
So the physicians get together,
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ื”ืจื•ืคืื™ื ืžืชื›ื ืกื™ื,
06:11
they agree on what quality is,
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ื”ื ืžืกื›ื™ืžื™ื ื‘ื™ื ื™ื”ื ืžื”ื™ ืื™ื›ื•ืช,
06:13
they start measuring, they share the data,
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ื•ืžืชื—ื™ืœื™ื ืœื”ืขืจื™ืš ื‘ื™ืฆื•ืขื™ื, ื—ื•ืœืงื™ื ืืช ื”ื ืชื•ื ื™ื,
06:17
they find who's best, and they learn from it.
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ืžื•ืฆืื™ื ืžื™ ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื•ืœื•ืžื“ื™ื ืžื–ื”,
06:21
Continuous improvement.
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ืฉื™ืคื•ืจ ืžืชืžื™ื“.
06:23
Now, that's not the only exciting part.
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ื•ื–ื” ืื™ื ื ื• ื”ื—ืœืง ื”ืžืœื”ื™ื‘ ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“.
06:26
That's exciting in itself.
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ื–ื” ืžืœื”ื™ื‘ ื‘ืคื ื™ ืขืฆืžื•.
06:28
But if you bring back the cost side of the equation,
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ื•ืžื•ืกื™ืคื™ื ืืช ื”ื™ื‘ื˜ ื”ืขืœื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืžืฉื•ื•ืื”,
06:31
and look at that,
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ื•ื‘ื•ื—ื ื™ื ืื•ืชื•,
06:32
it turns out, those who have focused on quality,
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ืžืกืชื‘ืจ ืฉืืœื” ืฉื”ืชืžืงื“ื• ื‘ืื™ื›ื•ืช,
06:35
they actually also have the lowest costs,
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ืืฆืœื ื”ื™ื• ืœืžืขืฉื” ื”ืขืœื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื›ื™ ื ืžื•ื›ื•ืช,
06:37
although that's not been the purpose in the first place.
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ืืคื™ืœื• ืฉืœื ื–ื• ื”ื™ืชื” ืžื˜ืจืชื ืžืœื›ืชื—ื™ืœื”.
06:40
So if you look at the hip surgery story again,
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ืื– ืื ื ื™ืงื— ืฉื•ื‘ ืืช ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ื ื™ืชื•ื— ืžื™ืคืจืง ื”ื™ืจืš,
06:43
there was a study done a couple years ago
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ืœืคื ื™ ื›ืžื” ืฉื ื™ื ื ืขืจืš ืžื—ืงืจ
06:45
where they compared the U.S. and Sweden.
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ืฉื‘ื• ื”ืฉื•ื• ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืจื”"ื‘ ืœืฉื•ื•ื“ื™ื”.
06:49
They looked at how many patients have needed
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ื‘ืžื—ืงืจ ื‘ื“ืงื• ื›ืžื” ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื ื–ืงืงื•
06:51
to be re-operated on seven years after the first surgery.
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ืœื ื™ืชื•ื— ื—ื•ื–ืจ ืชื•ืš 7 ืฉื ื™ื ืžืื– ื”ื ื™ืชื•ื— ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ.
06:55
In the United States, the number was three times
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ื‘ืืจื”"ื‘ ื”ืžืกืคืจ ื”ื™ื” ืคื™ 3
06:58
higher than in Sweden.
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ื’ื‘ื•ื” ืžืืฉืจ ื‘ืฉื•ื•ื“ื™ื”.
07:01
So many unnecessary surgeries,
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ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื”ืžื•ืŸ ื ื™ืชื•ื—ื™ื ืžื™ื•ืชืจื™ื,
07:04
and so much unnecessary suffering
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ื•ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ืกื‘ืœ ืžื™ื•ืชืจ
07:07
for all the patients who were operated on
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ืœื›ืœ ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืฉื ื•ืชื—ื•
07:08
in that seven year period.
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ื‘ืื•ืชืŸ 7 ื”ืฉื ื™ื.
07:11
Now, you can imagine how much savings
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ืืชื ื•ื“ืื™ ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ื’ื ื›ืžื” ื—ืกื›ื•ืŸ
07:12
there would be for society.
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ื—ื‘ืจื”.
07:15
We did a study where we looked at OECD data.
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ืขืจื›ื ื• ืžื—ืงืจ ืฉื‘ื• ื‘ื“ืงื ื• ืืช ื ืชื•ื ื™ ื”ืืจื’ื•ืŸ ืœืฉื™ืชื•ืฃ ืคืขื•ืœื” ื•ืคื™ืชื•ื— ื›ืœื›ืœื™.
07:18
OECD does, every so often,
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ื”ืื•-ืื™-ืกื™-ื“ื™ ื‘ื•ื“ืง ืžื™ื“ื™ ืคืขื ื‘ืคืขื
07:21
look at quality of care
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ืืช ืื™ื›ื•ืช ืฉื™ืจื•ืชื™ ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช
07:23
where they can find the data across the member countries.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื ืชื•ื ื™ ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื•ืช ื”ื—ื‘ืจื•ืช ื‘ื•.
07:28
The United States has, for many diseases,
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ื‘ืืจื”"ื‘, ื‘ืžื—ืœื•ืช ืจื‘ื•ืช ืœืžืขืฉื”,
07:30
actually a quality which is below the average
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ื”ืื™ื›ื•ืช ื”ื™ื ืžืชื—ืช ืœืžืžื•ืฆืข
07:32
in OECD.
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ืฉืœ ื”ืื•-ืื™-ืกื™-ื“ื™.
07:34
Now, if the American healthcare system
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ืื ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช ื”ืืžืจื™ืงืื™ืช
07:36
would focus a lot more on measuring quality,
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ืชืชืžืงื“ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืžื“ื™ื“ืช ืื™ื›ื•ืช,
07:38
and raise quality just to the level of average OECD,
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ื•ืชืขืœื” ืืช ื”ืื™ื›ื•ืช, ื•ืœื• ืจืง ืœืจืžื” ื”ืžืžื•ืฆืขืช ืฉืœ ื”ืื•-ืื™-ืกื™-ื“ื™,
07:43
it would save the American people
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ื–ื” ื™ื—ืกื•ืš ืœืขื ื”ืืžืจื™ืงืื™
07:45
500 billion U.S. dollars a year.
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500 ืžื™ืœื™ืืจื“ ื“ื•ืœืจ ื‘ืฉื ื”.
07:49
That's 20 percent of the budget,
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ืืœื” 20% ืžื”ืชืงืฆื™ื‘,
07:52
of the healthcare budget of the country.
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ืžืชืงืฆื™ื‘ ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช ื”ืืจืฆื™.
07:55
Now you may say that these numbers
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ืื•ืœื™ ืชืืžืจื• ืฉื”ืžืกืคืจื™ื ื”ืืœื”
07:57
are fantastic, and it's all logical,
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ื”ื ืคื ื˜ืกื˜ื™ื™ื, ื•ืฉื”ื›ืœ ื”ื’ื™ื•ื ื™,
08:00
but is it possible?
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ืื ื–ื” ืืคืฉืจื™?
08:02
This would be a paradigm shift in healthcare,
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ื–ื” ื™ื”ื™ื” ืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ืคืจื“ื™ื’ืžื” ื‘ืฉื™ืจื•ืชื™ ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช,
08:05
and I would argue that not only can it be done,
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ื•ืื ื™ ื˜ื•ืขืŸ ืฉืœื ืจืง ืฉื–ื” ื‘ืจ-ื‘ื™ืฆื•ืข,
08:08
but it has to be done.
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ืืœื ืฉื–ื” ืžื—ื•ื™ื™ื‘ ื‘ื™ืฆื•ืข.
08:10
The agents of change are the doctors and nurses
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ืžื•ื‘ื™ืœื™ ื”ืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ื”ื ื”ืจื•ืคืื™ื ื•ื”ืื—ื™ื•ืช
08:14
in the healthcare system.
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ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช.
08:16
In my practice as a consultant,
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ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ืชื™ ื›ื™ื•ืขืฅ,
08:19
I meet probably a hundred or more than a hundred
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ืื ื™ ืคื•ื’ืฉ ืื•ืœื™ ืžืื”, ืื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืžืื”
08:21
doctors and nurses and other hospital
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ืจื•ืคืื™ื, ืื—ื™ื•ืช ื•ืกื’ืœ ืจืคื•ืื™ ื ื•ืกืฃ
08:24
or healthcare staff every year.
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ืžืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช ืžื™ื“ื™ ืฉื ื”.
08:27
The one thing they have in common is
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ื•ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“ ืฉืžืฉื•ืชืฃ ืœื›ื•ืœื ื”ื•ื
08:29
they really care about what they achieve
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ืฉื‘ืืžืช ืื™ื›ืคืช ืœื”ื ืžื” ื”ื ืžืฉื™ื’ื™ื
08:31
in terms of quality for their patients.
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ื‘ืžื•ื ื—ื™ื ืฉืœ ืื™ื›ื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื—ื•ืœื™ื”ื.
08:34
Physicians are, like most of you in the audience,
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ืจื•ืคืื™ื, ื›ืžื• ืžืจื‘ื™ืชื›ื ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืงื”ืœ,
08:36
very competitive.
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ื”ื ืชื—ืจื•ืชื™ื™ื ืžืื“.
08:39
They were always best in class.
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ื”ื ืชืžื™ื“ ื”ื™ื• ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื›ื™ืชื”.
08:41
We were always best in class.
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ืื ื• ืชืžื™ื“ ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื›ื™ืชื”.
08:44
And if somebody can show them that the result
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ื•ืื ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืœื”ื ืฉื”ืชื•ืฆืื•ืช
08:47
they perform for their patients
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ืฉืœ ืžื” ืฉื”ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืขื ื—ื•ืœื™ื”ื
08:48
is no better than what others do,
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ืื™ื ืŸ ื˜ื•ื‘ื•ืช ืžืฉืœ ืื—ืจื™ื,
08:51
they will do whatever it takes to improve.
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ื”ื ื™ืขืฉื• ื”ื›ืœ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืฉืชืคืจ.
08:54
But most of them don't know.
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ืื‘ืœ ืœืจื•ื‘ื ืื™ืŸ ืžื•ืฉื’.
08:56
But physicians have another characteristic.
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ืจื•ืคืื™ื ืžืชืืคื™ื™ื ื™ื ื‘ืžืฉื”ื• ื ื•ืกืฃ.
08:59
They actually thrive from peer recognition.
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ื”ื ืขืžืœื™ื ืงืฉื” ืœืžืขืŸ ื”ื›ืจื” ืžืฆื“ ืขืžื™ืชื™ื”ื.
09:03
If a cardiologist calls another cardiologist
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ืื ืงืจื“ื™ื•ืœื•ื’ ืื—ื“ ืžื˜ืœืคืŸ ืœืงืจื“ื™ื•ืœื•ื’ ืื—ืจ,
09:05
in a competing hospital
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ื‘ื‘ื™ืช-ื—ื•ืœื™ื ืžืชื—ืจื”,
09:07
and discusses why that other hospital
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ื•ื”ื ื“ื ื™ื ื‘ืฉืืœื” ืžื“ื•ืข ื‘ื™ื”"ื— ื”ืฉื ื™
09:09
has so much better results, they will share.
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ืžืฉื™ื’ ืชื•ืฆืื•ืช ื˜ื•ื‘ื•ืช ื‘ื”ืจื‘ื”, ื”ื ื™ื—ืœืงื• ื‘ืžื™ื“ืข.
09:12
They will share the information on how to improve.
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ื”ื ื™ื—ืœืงื• ื‘ืžื™ื“ืข ืฉื™ืขื–ื•ืจ ืœื”ืฉื™ื’ ืฉื™ืคื•ืจ.
09:15
So it is, by measuring and creating transparency,
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ืื– ื›ืš, ืข"ื™ ืžื“ื™ื“ื” ื•ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืฉืงื™ืคื•ืช,
09:19
you get a cycle of continuous improvement,
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ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื ืžื—ื–ื•ืจ ืฉืœ ืฉื™ืคื•ืจ ืžืชืžื™ื“,
09:22
which is what this slide shows.
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ื•ื–ื” ืžื” ืฉื”ืฉืงื•ืคื™ืช ื”ื–ื• ืžืจืื”.
09:25
Now, you may say this is a nice idea,
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ืื•ืœื™ ืชืืžืจื• ืฉื–ื” ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื ื—ืžื“,
09:28
but this isn't only an idea.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื‘ืœื‘ื“.
09:30
This is happening in reality.
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ื–ื” ืงื•ืจื” ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช.
09:32
We're creating a global community,
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ืื ื• ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื’ืœื•ื‘ืœื™ืช,
09:35
and a large global community,
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ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื’ืœื•ื‘ืœื™ืช ืจื—ื‘ื”,
09:37
where we'll be able to measure and compare
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ืฉื‘ื” ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืขืจื™ืš ื•ืœื”ืฉื•ื•ืช
09:40
what we achieve.
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ืžื” ืื ื• ืžืฉื™ื’ื™ื.
09:41
Together with two academic institutions,
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ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ืฉื ื™ ืžื•ืกื“ื•ืช ืืงื“ืžื™ื™ื,
09:44
Michael Porter at Harvard Business School,
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ืžื™ื™ืงืœ ืคื•ืจื˜ืจ ืžื‘ื™ื”"ืก ืœืขืกืงื™ื ืฉืœ ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ืช ื”ืจื•ื•ืืจื“,
09:46
and the Karolinska Institute in Sweden,
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ื•ืžื›ื•ืŸ ืงืจื•ืœื™ื ืกืงื” ื‘ืฉื•ื•ื“ื™ื”,
09:48
BCG has formed something we call ICHOM.
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ืงื‘ื•ืฆืช ื”ื™ื™ืขื•ืฅ ืฉืœ ื‘ื•ืกื˜ื•ืŸ ื”ืงื™ืžื” ืžืฉื”ื• ื‘ืฉื "ืื™ื™ืฆ'ื•ื".
09:52
You may think that's a sneeze,
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ื–ื” ื•ื“ืื™ ื ืฉืžืข ืœื›ื ื›ืžื• ืขื™ื˜ื•ืฉ.
09:54
but it's not a sneeze, it's an acronym.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ืขื™ื˜ื•ืฉ, ืืœื ืจืืฉื™-ืชื™ื‘ื•ืช:
09:57
It stands for the International Consortium
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"ืฉื•ืชืคื•ืช ื‘ื™ื ืœืื•ืžื™ืช ืœื”ืขืจื›ืช ืชื•ืฆืื•ืช ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืชื™ื•ืช".
10:00
for Health Outcome Measurement.
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"ืฉื•ืชืคื•ืช ื‘ื™ื ืœืื•ืžื™ืช ืœื”ืขืจื›ืช ืชื•ืฆืื•ืช ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืชื™ื•ืช".
10:03
We're bringing together leading physicians
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ืื ื• ืžื›ื ืกื™ื ืจื•ืคืื™ื ื‘ื›ื™ืจื™ื
10:05
and patients to discuss, disease by disease,
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ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื—ื•ืœื™ื, ื•ื“ื ื™ื, ืžื—ืœื” ืื—ืจื™ ืžื—ืœื”,
10:09
what is really quality,
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ื‘ืกื•ื’ื™ื” ืžื”ื™ ื‘ืืžืช ืื™ื›ื•ืช,
10:11
what should we measure,
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ืžื” ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืžื“ื•ื“,
10:13
and to make those standards global.
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ื•ืคื•ืขืœื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคื•ืš ืืช ืืœื” ืœืชืงื ื™ื ื’ืœื•ื‘ืœื™ื™ื.
10:16
They've worked -- four working groups have worked
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ื”ื ืขื‘ื“ื•-- 4 ืงื‘ื•ืฆื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืคืขืœื•
10:18
during the past year:
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ื‘ืžืฉืš ื”ืฉื ื” ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื”:
10:20
cataracts, back pain,
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ืงื˜ืจืงื˜, ื›ืื‘ื™ ื’ื‘,
10:23
coronary artery disease, which is, for instance, heart attack,
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ืžื—ืœืช-ืœื‘ ื›ืœื™ืœื™ืช, ืฉื–ื”, ืœืžืฉืœ, ื”ืชืงืคื™ ืœื‘,
10:27
and prostate cancer.
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ื•ืกืจื˜ืŸ ื”ืขืจืžื•ื ื™ืช.
10:29
The four groups will publish their data
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ืืจื‘ืข ื”ืงื‘ื•ืฆื•ืช ืชืคืจืกืžื ื” ืืช ื”ื ืชื•ื ื™ื ืฉืœื”ืŸ
10:32
in November of this year.
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ื‘ื ื•ื‘ืžื‘ืจ, ื”ืฉื ื”.
10:33
That's the first time we'll be comparing
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ื–ืืช ืชื”ื™ื” ื”ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉื‘ื” ื ืฉื•ื•ื”
10:36
apples to apples, not only within a country,
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ืชืคื•ื—ื™ื ืœืชืคื•ื—ื™ื, ื•ืœื ืจืง ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืžื“ื™ื ื”,
10:39
but between countries.
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ืืœื ื‘ื™ืŸ ืžื“ื™ื ื•ืช.
10:42
Next year, we're planning to do eight diseases,
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ื‘ืฉื ื” ื”ื‘ืื” ืื ื• ืžืชื›ื ื ื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ืจ ืขืœ 8 ืžื—ืœื•ืช,
10:46
the year after, 16.
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ื‘ืฉื ื” ืฉืื—ืจื™ื” - 16.
10:48
In three years' time, we plan to have covered
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ืชื•ืš 3 ืฉื ื™ื ืื ื• ืžืชื›ื ื ื™ื ืœื›ืกื•ืช
10:51
40 percent of the disease burden.
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40% ืžืขื•ืžืก ื”ืžื—ืœื•ืช.
10:54
Compare apples to apples. Who's better?
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ืœื”ืฉื•ื•ืช ืชืคื•ื—ื™ื ืœืชืคื•ื—ื™ื. ืžื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘?
10:57
Why is that?
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ื•ืžื“ื•ืข?
11:00
Five months ago,
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ืœืคื ื™ 5 ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื,
11:03
I led a workshop at the largest university hospital
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ื ื™ื”ืœืชื™ ืกื“ื ื” ื‘ื‘ื™ื”"ื— ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ืื™ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ
11:06
in Northern Europe.
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ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ ืื™ืจื•ืคื”.
11:07
They have a new CEO, and she has a vision:
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ื™ืฉ ืœื”ื ืžื ื›"ืœื™ืช ื—ื“ืฉื”, ื•ื™ืฉ ืœื” ื—ื–ื•ืŸ:
11:11
I want to manage my big institution much more
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"ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื ื”ืœ ืืช ื”ืžื•ืกื“ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืฉืœื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ
11:14
on quality, outcomes that matter to patients.
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"ืขืœ ื‘ืกื™ืก ืื™ื›ื•ืช, ืขืœ ืชื•ืฆืื•ืช ืฉื—ืฉื•ื‘ื•ืช ืœื—ื•ืœื™ื."
11:19
This particular day, we sat in a workshop
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ื‘ืืชื• ื™ื•ื ืžืกื•ื™ื ื™ืฉื‘ื ื• ื‘ืกื“ื ื”,
11:22
together with physicians, nurses and other staff,
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ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ืจื•ืคืื™ื, ืื—ื™ื•ืช ื•ืื ืฉื™ ืกื’ืœ ื ื•ืกืคื™ื,
11:25
discussing leukemia in children.
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ื•ื“ื ื• ื‘ืกืจื˜ืŸ-ื“ื ืืฆืœ ื™ืœื“ื™ื.
11:29
The group discussed,
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ื”ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ื“ื ื” ื‘ืฉืืœื”,
11:31
how do we measure quality today?
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ืื™ืš ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœื”ืขืจื™ืš ื”ื™ื•ื ืื™ื›ื•ืช?
11:33
Can we measure it better than we do?
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ื”ืื ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืžื“ื•ื“ ืื•ืชื” ื˜ื•ื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื›ืคื™ ืฉืื ื• ืขื•ืฉื™ื ื›ืขืช?
11:36
We discussed, how do we treat these kids,
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ื“ื ื• ื‘ืฉืืœื” ืื™ืš ืœื˜ืคืœ ื‘ื™ืœื“ื™ื ื”ืืœื”,
11:38
what are important improvements?
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ืžื”ื ื”ืฉื™ืคื•ืจื™ื ื”ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื™ื?
11:40
And we discussed what are the costs for these patients,
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ื•ื’ื ื“ื ื• ื‘ืขืœื•ื™ื•ืช ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื”ืืœื”,
11:43
can we do treatment more efficiently?
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ื”ืื ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœื˜ืคืœ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื™ืขื™ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ?
11:45
There was an enormous energy in the room.
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ื”ื™ืชื” ื‘ืื•ืœื ืื ืจื’ื™ื” ื ื”ื“ืจืช.
11:47
There were so many ideas, so much enthusiasm.
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ื”ื™ื• ืจืขื™ื•ื ื•ืช ื›ื” ืจื‘ื™ื, ื”ืชืœื”ื‘ื•ืช ื›ื” ืจื‘ื”.
11:51
At the end of the meeting,
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ื‘ืชื•ื ื”ืžืคื’ืฉ,
11:53
the chairman of the department, he stood up.
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ื™ื•"ืจ ื”ืžื—ืœืงื” ื ืขืžื“,
11:56
He looked over the group and he said --
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ื”ื‘ื™ื˜ ืกื‘ื™ื‘ ืขืœ ื”ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ื•ืืžืจ --
12:01
first he raised his hand, I forgot that --
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ืชื—ื™ืœื” ื”ื•ื ื”ืจื™ื ืืช ื™ื“ื•, ืฉื›ื—ืชื™ ืืช ื–ื” --
12:03
he raised his hand, clenched his fist,
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ื”ื•ื ื”ืจื™ื ืืช ื™ื“ื•, ืงืžืฅ ืืช ืื’ืจื•ืคื•,
12:05
and then he said to the group, "Thank you.
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ื•ืืžืจ ืœืงื‘ื•ืฆื”: "ืชื•ื“ื” ืœื›ื.
12:08
Thank you. Today, we're finally discussing
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"ืชื•ื“ื” ืœื›ื. ื”ื™ื•ื ืื ื• ืกื•ืฃ-ืกื•ืฃ ื“ื ื™ื
12:11
what this hospital does the right way."
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"ืขืœ ืžื” ื‘ื™ืช ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื ื”ื–ื” ืขื•ืฉื” ื ื›ื•ืŸ."
12:14
By measuring value in healthcare,
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ืข"ื™ ืžื“ื™ื“ืช ืขืจืš ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช,
12:17
that is not only costs
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ื•ืœื ืจืง ืขืจืš ื›ืกืคื™,
12:19
but outcomes that matter to patients,
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ืืœื ืชื•ืฆืื•ืช ืฉื—ืฉื•ื‘ื•ืช ืœื—ื•ืœื™ื,
12:21
we will make staff in hospitals
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ื ื”ืคื•ืš ืืช ื”ืกื’ืœ ืฉืœ ื‘ืชื™ ื”ื—ื•ืœื™ื
12:23
and elsewhere in the healthcare system
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ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ืื—ืจ ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช
12:25
not a problem but an important part of the solution.
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ืœื ืœื‘ืขื™ื”, ืืœื ืœื—ืœืง ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืžืŸ ื”ืคืชืจื•ืŸ.
12:29
I believe measuring value in healthcare
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ืื ื™ ืžืืžื™ืŸ ืฉืžื“ื™ื“ืช ืขืจืš ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืื•ืช
12:31
will bring about a revolution,
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ืชื—ื•ืœืœ ืžื”ืคื›ื”,
12:33
and I'm convinced that the founder
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ื•ืื ื™ ืžืฉื•ื›ื ืข ืฉื”ืžื™ื™ืกื“
12:36
of modern medicine, the Greek Hippocrates,
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ืฉืœ ื”ืจืคื•ืื” ื”ืžื•ื“ืจื ื™ืช, ื”ื™ืคื•ืงืจื˜ืก ื”ื™ื•ื•ื ื™,
12:39
who always put the patient at the center,
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ืฉืชืžื™ื“ ื”ืฆื™ื‘ ืืช ื”ื—ื•ืœื” ื‘ืžืจื›ื–,
12:42
he would smile in his grave.
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ื™ื—ื™ื™ืš ื‘ืงื‘ืจื•.
12:44
Thank you.
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ืชื•ื“ื” ืœื›ื.
12:47
(Applause)
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[ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื]
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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