Stefan Larsson: What doctors can learn from each other

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Five years ago, I was on a sabbatical,
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and I returned to the medical university
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where I studied.
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I saw real patients and I wore the white coat
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for the first time in 17 years,
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in fact since I became a management consultant.
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There were two things that surprised me
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during the month I spent.
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The first one was that the common theme
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of the discussions we had were hospital budgets
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and cost-cutting,
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and the second thing, which really bothered me,
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actually, was that several of the colleagues I met,
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former friends from medical school,
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who I knew to be some of the smartest,
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most motivated, engaged and passionate people
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I'd ever met,
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many of them had turned cynical, disengaged,
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or had distanced themselves from hospital management.
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So with this focus on cost-cutting,
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I asked myself, are we forgetting the patient?
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Many countries that you represent
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and where I come from
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struggle with the cost of healthcare.
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It's a big part of the national budgets.
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And many different reforms aim at holding back this growth.
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In some countries, we have long waiting times
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for patients for surgery.
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In other countries, new drugs are not being reimbursed,
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and therefore don't reach patients.
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In several countries, doctors and nurses
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are the targets, to some extent, for the governments.
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After all, the costly decisions in health care
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are taken by doctors and nurses.
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You choose an expensive lab test,
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you choose to operate on an old and frail patient.
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So, by limiting the degrees of freedom of physicians,
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this is a way to hold costs down.
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And ultimately, some physicians will say today
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that they don't have the full liberty
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to make the choices they think are right for their patients.
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So no wonder that some of my old colleagues
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are frustrated.
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At BCG, we looked at this,
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and we asked ourselves,
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this can't be the right way of managing healthcare.
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And so we took a step back and we said,
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"What is it that we are trying to achieve?"
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Ultimately, in the healthcare system,
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we're aiming at improving health for the patients,
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and we need to do so at a limited,
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or affordable, cost.
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We call this value-based healthcare.
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On the screen behind me, you see what we mean
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by value:
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outcomes that matter to patients
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relative to the money we spend.
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This was described beautifully in a book in 2006
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by Michael Porter and Elizabeth Teisberg.
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On this picture, you have my father-in-law
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surrounded by his three beautiful daughters.
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When we started doing our research at BCG,
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we decided not to look so much at the costs,
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but to look at the quality instead,
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and in the research, one of the things
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that fascinated us was the variation we saw.
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You compare hospitals in a country,
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you'll find some that are extremely good,
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but you'll find a large number that are vastly much worse.
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The differences were dramatic.
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Erik, my father-in-law,
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he suffers from prostate cancer,
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and he probably needs surgery.
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Now living in Europe, he can choose to go to Germany
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that has a well-reputed healthcare system.
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If he goes there and goes to the average hospital,
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he will have the risk of becoming incontinent
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by about 50 percent,
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so he would have to start wearing diapers again.
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You flip a coin. Fifty percent risk. That's quite a lot.
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If he instead would go to Hamburg,
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and to a clinic called the Martini-Klinik,
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the risk would be only one in 20.
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Either you a flip a coin,
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or you have a one in 20 risk.
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That's a huge difference, a seven-fold difference.
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When we look at many hospitals
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for many different diseases,
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we see these huge differences.
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But you and I don't know. We don't have the data.
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And often, the data actually doesn't exist.
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Nobody knows.
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So going the hospital is a lottery.
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Now, it doesn't have to be that way. There is hope.
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In the late '70s, there were a group
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of Swedish orthopedic surgeons
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who met at their annual meeting,
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and they were discussing the different procedures
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they used to operate hip surgery.
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To the left of this slide, you see a variety
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of metal pieces, artificial hips that you would use
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for somebody who needs a new hip.
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They all realized they had their individual way of operating.
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They all argued that, "My technique is the best,"
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but none of them actually knew, and they admitted that.
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So they said, "We probably need to measure quality
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so we know and can learn from what's best."
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So they in fact spent two years debating,
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"So what is quality in hip surgery?"
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"Oh, we should measure this." "No, we should measure that."
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And they finally agreed.
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And once they had agreed, they started measuring,
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and started sharing the data.
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Very quickly, they found that if you put cement
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in the bone of the patient
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before you put the metal shaft in,
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it actually lasted a lot longer,
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and most patients would never have to be
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re-operated on in their lifetime.
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They published the data,
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and it actually transformed clinical practice in the country.
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Everybody saw this makes a lot of sense.
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Since then, they publish every year.
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Once a year, they publish the league table:
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who's best, who's at the bottom?
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And they visit each other to try to learn,
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so a continuous cycle of improvement.
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For many years, Swedish hip surgeons
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had the best results in the world,
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at least for those who actually were measuring,
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and many were not.
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Now I found this principle really exciting.
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So the physicians get together,
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they agree on what quality is,
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they start measuring, they share the data,
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they find who's best, and they learn from it.
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Continuous improvement.
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Now, that's not the only exciting part.
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That's exciting in itself.
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But if you bring back the cost side of the equation,
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and look at that,
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it turns out, those who have focused on quality,
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they actually also have the lowest costs,
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although that's not been the purpose in the first place.
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So if you look at the hip surgery story again,
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there was a study done a couple years ago
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where they compared the U.S. and Sweden.
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They looked at how many patients have needed
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to be re-operated on seven years after the first surgery.
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In the United States, the number was three times
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higher than in Sweden.
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So many unnecessary surgeries,
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and so much unnecessary suffering
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for all the patients who were operated on
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in that seven year period.
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Now, you can imagine how much savings
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there would be for society.
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We did a study where we looked at OECD data.
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OECD does, every so often,
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look at quality of care
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where they can find the data across the member countries.
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The United States has, for many diseases,
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actually a quality which is below the average
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in OECD.
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Now, if the American healthcare system
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would focus a lot more on measuring quality,
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and raise quality just to the level of average OECD,
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it would save the American people
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500 billion U.S. dollars a year.
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That's 20 percent of the budget,
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of the healthcare budget of the country.
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Now you may say that these numbers
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are fantastic, and it's all logical,
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but is it possible?
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This would be a paradigm shift in healthcare,
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and I would argue that not only can it be done,
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but it has to be done.
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The agents of change are the doctors and nurses
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in the healthcare system.
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In my practice as a consultant,
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I meet probably a hundred or more than a hundred
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doctors and nurses and other hospital
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or healthcare staff every year.
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The one thing they have in common is
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they really care about what they achieve
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in terms of quality for their patients.
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Physicians are, like most of you in the audience,
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very competitive.
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They were always best in class.
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We were always best in class.
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And if somebody can show them that the result
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they perform for their patients
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is no better than what others do,
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they will do whatever it takes to improve.
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But most of them don't know.
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But physicians have another characteristic.
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They actually thrive from peer recognition.
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If a cardiologist calls another cardiologist
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in a competing hospital
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and discusses why that other hospital
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has so much better results, they will share.
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They will share the information on how to improve.
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So it is, by measuring and creating transparency,
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you get a cycle of continuous improvement,
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which is what this slide shows.
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Now, you may say this is a nice idea,
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but this isn't only an idea.
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This is happening in reality.
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We're creating a global community,
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and a large global community,
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where we'll be able to measure and compare
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what we achieve.
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Together with two academic institutions,
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Michael Porter at Harvard Business School,
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and the Karolinska Institute in Sweden,
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BCG has formed something we call ICHOM.
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You may think that's a sneeze,
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but it's not a sneeze, it's an acronym.
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It stands for the International Consortium
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for Health Outcome Measurement.
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We're bringing together leading physicians
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and patients to discuss, disease by disease,
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what is really quality,
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what should we measure,
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and to make those standards global.
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They've worked -- four working groups have worked
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during the past year:
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cataracts, back pain,
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coronary artery disease, which is, for instance, heart attack,
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and prostate cancer.
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The four groups will publish their data
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in November of this year.
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That's the first time we'll be comparing
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apples to apples, not only within a country,
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but between countries.
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Next year, we're planning to do eight diseases,
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the year after, 16.
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In three years' time, we plan to have covered
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40 percent of the disease burden.
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Compare apples to apples. Who's better?
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Why is that?
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Five months ago,
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I led a workshop at the largest university hospital
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in Northern Europe.
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They have a new CEO, and she has a vision:
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I want to manage my big institution much more
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on quality, outcomes that matter to patients.
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This particular day, we sat in a workshop
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together with physicians, nurses and other staff,
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discussing leukemia in children.
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The group discussed,
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how do we measure quality today?
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Can we measure it better than we do?
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We discussed, how do we treat these kids,
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what are important improvements?
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And we discussed what are the costs for these patients,
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can we do treatment more efficiently?
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There was an enormous energy in the room.
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There were so many ideas, so much enthusiasm.
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At the end of the meeting,
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the chairman of the department, he stood up.
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He looked over the group and he said --
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first he raised his hand, I forgot that --
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he raised his hand, clenched his fist,
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and then he said to the group, "Thank you.
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Thank you. Today, we're finally discussing
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what this hospital does the right way."
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By measuring value in healthcare,
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that is not only costs
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but outcomes that matter to patients,
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we will make staff in hospitals
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and elsewhere in the healthcare system
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not a problem but an important part of the solution.
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I believe measuring value in healthcare
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will bring about a revolution,
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and I'm convinced that the founder
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of modern medicine, the Greek Hippocrates,
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who always put the patient at the center,
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he would smile in his grave.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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