When ideas have sex | Matt Ridley

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When I was a student here in Oxford in the 1970s,
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Da jeg studerede her i Oxford i 1970erne,
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the future of the world was bleak.
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så Verdens fremtid ikke godt ud.
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The population explosion was unstoppable.
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Befolkningstilvæksten var ustoppelig.
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Global famine was inevitable.
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Global hungersnød var uundgåelig.
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A cancer epidemic caused by chemicals in the environment
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En cancerepidemi, forårsaget af kemikalier i miljøet,
00:29
was going to shorten our lives.
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ville forkorte vores liv.
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The acid rain was falling on the forests.
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Syreregnen faldt på skovene.
00:35
The desert was advancing by a mile or two a year.
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Ørkenen spredte sig med to-tre km om året.
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The oil was running out,
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Olien var ved at slippe op.
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and a nuclear winter would finish us off.
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Og en atomvinter ville gøre en ende på os.
00:42
None of those things happened,
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Intet af det skete.
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(Laughter)
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(Latter)
00:46
and astonishingly, if you look at what actually happened in my lifetime,
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Og forbløffende nok, hvis man ser på, hvad der faktisk er sket i min livstid,
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the average per-capita income
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så er gennemsnitsindkomsten
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of the average person on the planet,
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for gennemsnitsindbyggeren på denne planet
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in real terms, adjusted for inflation,
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i faste priser og justeret for inflation;
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has tripled.
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tredoblet.
00:58
Lifespan is up by 30 percent in my lifetime.
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I løbet af min livstid er levealderen øget med 30 procent.
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Child mortality is down by two-thirds.
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Børnedødeligheden er faldet med to trediedele.
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Per-capita food production
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Fødevareproduktionen pr. indbygger
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is up by a third.
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er øget med en trediedel.
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And all this at a time when the population has doubled.
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Og alt dette samtidig med, at befolkningstallet er fordoblet.
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How did we achieve that, whether you think it's a good thing or not?
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Hvordan opnåede vi det - hvad end du mener, det er en god ting eller ej -
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How did we achieve that?
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hvordan opnåede vi det?
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How did we become
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Hvordan blev vi
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the only species
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den eneste art,
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that becomes more prosperous
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der bliver mere velstående
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as it becomes more populous?
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samtidig med, at befolkningen øges?
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The size of the blob in this graph represents the size of the population,
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Plettens størrelse i denne graf, repræsenterer befolkningens størrelse.
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and the level of the graph
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Og højden af grafen
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represents GDP per capita.
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repræsenterer BNP pr. indbygger.
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I think to answer that question
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Jeg tror, at for at besvare det spørgsmål,
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you need to understand
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må man først forstå,
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how human beings bring together their brains
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hvordan mennesker kobler sine hjerner sammen
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and enable their ideas to combine and recombine,
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og derved muliggør kombinationer af idéer,
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to meet and, indeed, to mate.
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deres møde og ja; deres parring.
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In other words, you need to understand
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Med andre ord, man skal forstå,
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how ideas have sex.
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hvordan idéer dyrker sex.
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I want you to imagine
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Du skal forestille dig,
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how we got from making objects like this
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hvordan vi kom fra at lave ting, som denne
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to making objects like this.
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til at lave ting, som denne.
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These are both real objects.
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De er begge ægte ting.
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One is an Acheulean hand axe from half a million years ago
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Den ene er en halv million år gammel acheulean håndøkse
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of the kind made by Homo erectus.
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af den slags, Homo erectus lavede.
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The other is obviously a computer mouse.
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Den anden er naturligvis en computermus.
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They're both exactly the same size and shape to an uncanny degree.
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I en utrolig grad har de præcis samme størrelse og form.
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I've tried to work out which is bigger,
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Jeg har prøvet at beregne, hvilken af dem er størst,
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and it's almost impossible.
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og det er næsten umuligt.
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And that's because they're both designed to fit the human hand.
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Og det er fordi, de begge er designede til at passe til en menneskehånd.
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They're both technologies. In the end, their similarity is not that interesting.
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De er begge teknologier. I sidste ende er deres lighed ikke så interessant.
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It just tells you they were both designed to fit the human hand.
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Den fortæller blot, at begge var designede til at passe til en menneskehånd.
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The differences are what interest me,
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Forskellene er, hvad interesserer mig.
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because the one on the left was made to a pretty unvarying design
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Fordi, den til venstre blev lavet efter et temmelig uvarieret design
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for about a million years --
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i omkring en million år -
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from one-and-a-half million years ago to half a million years ago.
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fra 1½ millioner til ½ millioner år siden.
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Homo erectus made the same tool
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Homo erectus lavede det samme redskab
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for 30,000 generations.
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i 30.000 generationer.
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Of course there were a few changes,
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Selvfølgelig var der nogle få forandringer,
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but tools changed slower than skeletons in those days.
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men redskaber ændrede sig langsommere end skeletter dengang.
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There was no progress, no innovation.
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Der var intet fremskridt, ingen innovation.
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It's an extraordinary phenomenon, but it's true.
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Det er et usædvanligt fænomen, men det er rigtigt.
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Whereas the object on the right is obsolete after five years.
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Derimod er tingen til højre forældet efter fem år.
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And there's another difference too,
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Og der er endnu en forskel;
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which is the object on the left is made from one substance.
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tingen til venstre er fremstillet af ét materiale.
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The object on the right is made from
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Tingen til højre er lavet af
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a confection of different substances,
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en blanding af forskellige materialer,
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from silicon and metal and plastic and so on.
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af silikone og metal og plastik osv.
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And more than that, it's a confection of different ideas,
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Og mere end det, den er en blanding af forskellige idéer,
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the idea of plastic, the idea of a laser,
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idéeen om plastik, idéen om laser,
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the idea of transistors.
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idéen om transistorer.
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They've all been combined together in this technology.
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De er alle blevet kombineret i denne teknologi.
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And it's this combination,
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Og det er denne kombination,
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this cumulative technology, that intrigues me,
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denne kumulative teknologi, der fascinerer mig.
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because I think it's the secret to understanding
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Fordi, jeg tror, den er hemmeligheden bag forståelsen af,
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what's happening in the world.
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hvad der sker i Verden.
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My body's an accumulation of ideas too:
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Min krop er også en samling af idéer,
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the idea of skin cells, the idea of brain cells, the idea of liver cells.
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idéen om hudceller, idéen om hjerneceller, idéen om leverceller.
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They've come together.
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De er blevet sat sammen.
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How does evolution do cumulative, combinatorial things?
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Hvordan laver evolutionen kumulative kombinerede ting?
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Well, it uses sexual reproduction.
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Ja, den bruger seksuel reproduktion.
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In an asexual species, if you get two different mutations in different creatures,
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Hvis en ikke-seksuel art laver to mutationer i forskellige individer,
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a green one and a red one,
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en grøn og en rød,
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then one has to be better than the other.
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så må den ene være bedre end den anden.
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One goes extinct for the other to survive.
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Den ene overlever på bekostning af den andens uddøen.
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But if you have a sexual species,
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Men hvis du har en seksuel art,
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then it's possible for an individual
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så er det muligt for et individ
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to inherit both mutations
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at arve begge mutationer
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from different lineages.
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fra forskellige slægter.
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So what sex does is it enables the individual
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Så det sex gør er, at give individet mulighed for,
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to draw upon
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at drage fordele af
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the genetic innovations of the whole species.
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hele artens genetiske innovationer.
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It's not confined to its own lineage.
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Det er ikke begrænset til sin egen slægt.
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What's the process that's having the same effect
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Hvilken proces har en tilsvarende effekt
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in cultural evolution
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i en kulturel evolution,
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as sex is having in biological evolution?
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som sex har i den biologiske evolution?
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And I think the answer is exchange,
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Jeg tror, svaret er udveksling,
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the habit of exchanging one thing for another.
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sædvanen med at bytte en ting for en anden.
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It's a unique human feature.
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Det er et unikt menneskeligt træk.
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No other animal does it.
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Ingen andre dyr gør det.
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You can teach them in the laboratory to do a little bit of exchange --
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I laboratoriet kan man lære dem en lille smule bytteri.
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and indeed there's reciprocity in other animals --
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Og der er bestemt vekselvirkninger mellem andre dyr.
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But the exchange of one object for another never happens.
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Men udvekslingen af en ting for en anden sker aldrig.
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As Adam Smith said, "No man ever saw a dog
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Som Adam Smith sagde: "Ingen har nogensinde set en hund
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make a fair exchange of a bone with another dog."
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lave en fair bytning af kødben med en anden hund."
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(Laughter)
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(Latter)
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You can have culture without exchange.
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Man kan have kultur uden bytteri.
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You can have, as it were, asexual culture.
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Man kan have aseksuel kultur.
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Chimpanzees, killer whales, these kinds of creatures, they have culture.
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Chimpanser, dræberhvaler, disse skabninger har kultur.
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They teach each other traditions
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De lærer hinanden traditioner,
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which are handed down from parent to offspring.
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der går i arv fra forældre til afkom.
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In this case, chimpanzees teaching each other
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I dette tilfælde lærer chimpanser hinanden,
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how to crack nuts with rocks.
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hvordan man knækker nødder med sten.
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But the difference is
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Men forskellen er,
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that these cultures never expand, never grow,
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at disse kulturer aldrig udvider sig, aldrig vokser,
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never accumulate, never become combinatorial,
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aldrig akkumulerer, aldrig bliver kombinatoriske.
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and the reason is because
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Og grunden er,
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there is no sex, as it were,
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at der ikke er noget sex,
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there is no exchange of ideas.
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der er ingen udveksling af idéer.
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Chimpanzee troops have different cultures in different troops.
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Chimpanseflokke har forskellige kulturer i forskellige flokke.
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There's no exchange of ideas between them.
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Der er ingen udveksling af idéer mellem dem.
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And why does exchange raise living standards?
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Hvorfor øger udveksling levestandarden?
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Well, the answer came from David Ricardo in 1817.
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Ja, svaret kom fra David Ricardo i 1817.
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And here is a Stone Age version of his story,
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Og her er en stenalderversion af hans historie,
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although he told it in terms of trade between countries.
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selvom han fortalte den m.h.t. handel mellem lande.
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Adam takes four hours to make a spear and three hours to make an axe.
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Det tager Adam fire timer at lave et spyd og tre timer at lave en økse.
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Oz takes one hour to make a spear and two hours to make an axe.
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Det tager Oz en time at lave et spyd og to timer at lave en økse.
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So Oz is better at both spears and axes than Adam.
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Så Oz er bedre til at lave både spyd og økser end Adam.
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He doesn't need Adam.
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Han har ikke brug for Adam.
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He can make his own spears and axes.
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Han kan lave sine egne spyd og økser.
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Well no, because if you think about it,
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Men egentlig ikke, fordi hvis man tænker over det,
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if Oz makes two spears and Adam make two axes,
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hvis Oz laver to spyd, og Adam laver to økser,
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and then they trade,
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og de bytter med hinanden,
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then they will each have saved an hour of work.
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så har de hver sparet en times arbejde.
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And the more they do this, the more true it's going to be,
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Og jo mere de gør dette, jo mere rigtigt bliver det.
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because the more they do this, the better Adam is going to get at making axes
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Fordi, jo mere de gør dette, jo dygtigere bliver Adam til at lave økser,
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and the better Oz is going to get at making spears.
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og jo bedre bliver Oz til at lave spyd.
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So the gains from trade are only going to grow.
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Så fordelene ved at bytte kommer kun til at vokse.
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And this is one of the beauties of exchange,
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Og dette er en af skønhederne ved bytteri,
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is it actually creates the momentum
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det skaber faktisk den drivende kraft
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for more specialization,
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til mere specialisering,
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which creates the momentum for more exchange and so on.
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der skaber den drivende kraft til mere udveksling osv.
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Adam and Oz both saved an hour of time.
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Adam og Oz sparede begge en times arbejde.
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That is prosperity, the saving of time
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At spare tid på opfyldelse af ens behov,
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in satisfying your needs.
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det er velstand.
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Ask yourself how long you would have to work
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Spørg dig selv hvor længe du skulle arbejde
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to provide for yourself
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for at tilvejebringe
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an hour of reading light this evening to read a book by.
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en times lys at læse en bog ved i aften.
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If you had to start from scratch, let's say you go out into the countryside.
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Hvis du skulle starte fra bunden, lad os sige, du tager ud på landet.
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You find a sheep. You kill it. You get the fat out of it.
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Du finder et får. Du dræber det. Du tager fedtet fra.
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You render it down. You make a candle, etc. etc.
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Du afsmelter det. Du laver et lys, osv., osv.
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How long is it going to take you? Quite a long time.
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Hvor længe vil det tage dig? Ret længe!
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How long do you actually have to work
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I hvor lang tid skal du egentlig arbejde
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to earn an hour of reading light
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for at tjene en times læselys,
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if you're on the average wage in Britain today?
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hvis du tjener en gennemsnitsløn i Storbritannien idag?
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And the answer is about half a second.
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Og svaret er; ca. et sekund.
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Back in 1950,
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Tilbage i 1950
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you would have had to work for eight seconds on the average wage
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skulle du arbejde i otte sekunder til en gennemsnitsløn
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to acquire that much light.
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for at erhverve dig den mængde lys.
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And that's seven and a half seconds of prosperity that you've gained
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Og det er 7½ sekunders velstand, du har tjent.
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since 1950, as it were,
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Siden 1950.
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because that's seven and a half seconds in which you can do something else,
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Fordi, det er 7½ sekunder, du kan bruge på at lave noget andet.
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or you can acquire another good or service.
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Eller du kan erhverve dig en anden vare eller service.
06:44
And back in 1880,
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Og tilbage i 1880
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it would have been 15 minutes
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ville det have taget 15 minutter
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to earn that amount of light on the average wage.
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at tjene til den mængde lys på en gennemsnitsløn.
06:50
Back in 1800,
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Tilbage i år 1800
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you'd have had to work six hours
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skulle du arbejde i 6 timer
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to earn a candle that could burn for an hour.
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for at tjene til et lys, der kunne brænde i en time.
06:57
In other words, the average person on the average wage
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Med andre ord, en gennemsnitsperson med en gennemsnitsløn
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could not afford a candle in 1800.
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havde ikke råd til et lys i år 1800.
07:02
Go back to this image of the axe and the mouse,
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Vend tilbage til dette billede af øksen og musen
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and ask yourself: "Who made them and for who?"
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og spørg dig selv: "Hvem lavede dem og til hvem?"
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The stone axe was made by someone for himself.
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Stenøksen blev lavet af en eller anden til ham selv.
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It was self-sufficiency.
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Det var selvforsyning.
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We call that poverty these days.
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Idag kalder vi det fattigdom.
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But the object on the right
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Men tingen til højre
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was made for me by other people.
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blev lavet til mig af andre mennesker.
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How many other people?
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Hvor mange andre mennesker?
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Tens? Hundreds? Thousands?
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Ti? Hundreder? Tusinder?
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You know, I think it's probably millions.
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Ved du hvad, jeg tror, det formentlig er millioner.
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Because you've got to include the man who grew the coffee,
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For man må medregne manden, der dyrkede kaffen,
07:27
which was brewed for the man who was on the oil rig,
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der blev brygget til manden på boreplatformen,
07:30
who was drilling for oil, which was going to be made into the plastic, etc.
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ham, der borede efter olien, der blev lavet til plastik, osv.
07:33
They were all working for me,
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De arbejdede alle for mig,
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to make a mouse for me.
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for at fremstille en mus til mig.
07:37
And that's the way society works.
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Og sådan fungerer samfundet.
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That's what we've achieved as a species.
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Det er det, vi som art har opnået.
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In the old days, if you were rich,
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I gamle dage, hvis man var rig,
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you literally had people working for you.
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havde man bogstavelig talt folk til at arbejde for sig.
07:48
That's how you got to be rich; you employed them.
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Det var sådan, man blev rig; man hyrede folk.
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Louis XIV had a lot of people working for him.
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Louis XIV havde mange mennesker til at arbejde for sig.
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They made his silly outfits, like this,
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De fremstillede hans fjollede tøj, som dette.
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(Laughter)
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(Latter)
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and they did his silly hairstyles, or whatever.
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Og de satte hans fjollede frisurer eller noget.
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He had 498 people
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Han havde 498 folk,
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to prepare his dinner every night.
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til at tilberede sit måltid hver aften.
08:03
But a modern tourist going around the palace of Versailles
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Men en moderne turist, der besøger paladset i Versailles
08:05
and looking at Louis XIV's pictures,
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og ser på Louis XIVs billeder,
08:08
he has 498 people doing his dinner tonight too.
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har også 498 folk til at tilberede sit aftenmåltid.
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They're in bistros and cafes and restaurants
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De er i bistroer og caféer og restauranter
08:12
and shops all over Paris,
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og butikker i hele Paris.
08:14
and they're all ready to serve you at an hour's notice with an excellent meal
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Og med kort varsel står de alle klar til at servere dig et fremragende måltid,
08:17
that's probably got higher quality
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der formentlig er af højere kvalitet,
08:19
than Louis XIV even had.
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end selv Loius XIV fik.
08:21
And that's what we've done, because we're all working for each other.
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Og det er det, vi har opnået, fordi vi alle arbejder for hinanden.
08:24
We're able to draw upon specialization and exchange
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Vi kan drage nytte af specialisering og udveksling
08:27
to raise each other's living standards.
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og dermed øge hinandens levestandarder.
08:30
Now, you do get other animals working for each other too.
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Nuvel, man ser også andre dyr, der arbejder for hinanden.
08:33
Ants are a classic example; workers work for queens and queens work for workers.
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Myrer er et klassisk eksempel; arbejdere arbejder for dronninger og dronninger arbejder for arbejdere.
08:36
But there's a big difference,
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Men der er en stor forskel,
08:38
which is that it only happens within the colony.
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nemlig at det udelukkende sker indenfor kolonien.
08:40
There's no working for each other across the colonies.
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De arbejder ikke for hinanden kolonierne imellem.
08:42
And the reason for that is because there's a reproductive division of labor.
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Og grunden til det er, at avlsarbejdet er opdelt.
08:45
That is to say, they specialize with respect to reproduction.
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Det vil sige, de specialiserer sig m.h.t. reproduktion.
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The queen does it all.
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Dronningen står for det hele.
08:50
In our species, we don't like doing that.
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Indenfor vores art kan vi ikke lide det sådan.
08:52
It's the one thing we insist on doing for ourselves, is reproduction.
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Dét er det eneste vi insisterer på at gøre selv, vi reproducerer os selv.
08:55
(Laughter)
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(Latter)
08:58
Even in England, we don't leave reproduction to the Queen.
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Selv i England overlader vi ikke reproduktionen til dronningen.
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(Applause)
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(Bifald)
09:05
So when did this habit start?
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Så hvornår begyndte denne vane?
09:07
And how long has it been going on? And what does it mean?
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Og hvor længe har det stået på? Og hvad betyder det?
09:09
Well, I think, probably, the oldest version of this
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Ja, jeg tror, at det ældste eksempel
09:12
is probably the sexual division of labor.
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formentlig er det kønsopdelte arbejde.
09:14
But I've got no evidence for that.
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Men det har jeg ikke noget bevis for.
09:16
It just looks like the first thing we did
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Det ser blot ud som om, at det første vi foretog os var,
09:18
was work male for female and female for male.
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at hanner arbejdede for hunner og hunner arbejdede for hanner.
09:21
In all hunter-gatherer societies today,
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I alle jagt- og samlersamfund idag,
09:23
there's a foraging division of labor
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er der arbejdsdeling indenfor anskaffelse af mad,
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between, on the whole, hunting males and gathering females.
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stort set med hanner, der jager og hunner, der samler.
09:27
It isn't always quite that simple,
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Det er ikke altid helt så simpelt.
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but there's a distinction between
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Men der er en skelnen mellem
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specialized roles for males and females.
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specialiserede roller for mænd og kvinder.
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And the beauty of this system
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Og skønheden ved dette system er,
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is that it benefits both sides.
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at det kommer begge parter til gode.
09:38
The woman knows
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Kvinden ved,
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that, in the Hadzas' case here --
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som her i Hadzas-stammens tilfælde,
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digging roots to share with men in exchange for meat --
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at rødder kan graves op og byttes for kød.
09:44
she knows that all she has to do to get access to protein
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Hun ved, at alt hun skal gøre for at få adgang til proteiner er,
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is to dig some extra roots and trade them for meat.
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at grave nogle ekstra rødder op og bytte dem for kød.
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And she doesn't have to go on an exhausting hunt
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Og hun behøver ikke gå på en udmattende jagt
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and try and kill a warthog.
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for at prøve at nedlægge et vildsvin.
09:54
And the man knows that he doesn't have to do any digging
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Og manden ved, han ikke behøver at grave
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to get roots.
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for at få rødder.
09:58
All he has to do is make sure that when he kills a warthog
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Alt han behøver at sørge for er, at vildsvinet, han dræber,
10:00
it's big enough to share some.
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er stort nok til at dele.
10:02
And so both sides raise each other's standards of living
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Og derved øger begge parter hinandens levestandarder
10:05
through the sexual division of labor.
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gennem den kønsbaserede arbejdsdeling.
10:07
When did this happen? We don't know, but it's possible
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Hvornår begyndte dette? Vi ved det ikke, men det er muligt,
10:10
that Neanderthals didn't do this.
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at neandertalerne ikke gjorde det.
10:12
They were a highly cooperative species.
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De var en yderst samarbejdsvillig art.
10:14
They were a highly intelligent species.
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De var en yderst intelligent art.
10:16
Their brains on average, by the end, were bigger than yours and mine
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Hen mod slutningen var deres hjerner i gennemsnit større end din og min
10:18
in this room today.
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i dette lokale idag.
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They were imaginative. They buried their dead.
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De var fantasifulde. De begravede deres døde.
10:22
They had language, probably,
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De havde sandsynligvis sprog,
10:24
because we know they had the FOXP2 gene of the same kind as us,
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for vi ved, at de havde samme slags FOXP2-gen som os,
10:26
which was discovered here in Oxford.
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hvilket blev opdaget her i Oxford.
10:28
And so it looks like they probably had linguistic skills.
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Og det tyder på, at de havde sproglige færdigheder.
10:31
They were brilliant people. I'm not dissing the Neanderthals.
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De var formidable mennesker. Jeg disser ikke neandertalerne.
10:35
But there's no evidence
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Men der er intet tegn på
10:37
of a sexual division of labor.
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en kønsopdeling af arbejdet.
10:39
There's no evidence of gathering behavior by females.
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Der er intet tegn på samleradfærd hos kvinderne.
10:42
It looks like the females were cooperative hunters with the men.
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Det ser ud som om, kvinderne samarbejdede med mændene om jagten.
10:46
And the other thing there's no evidence for
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Og den anden ting, der ikke er tegn på
10:48
is exchange between groups,
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er bytteri mellem grupper.
10:51
because the objects that you find in Neanderthal remains,
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For tingene man finder blandt neandertalernes efterladenskaber,
10:54
the tools they made,
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redskaberne de lavede,
10:56
are always made from local materials.
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er altid lavet af lokale materialer.
10:58
For example, in the Caucasus
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For eksempel i Kaukasus
11:00
there's a site where you find local Neanderthal tools.
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der er et område, hvor man finder lokale neandertalredskaber.
11:03
They're always made from local chert.
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De er altid fremstillet af lokal flint.
11:05
In the same valley there are modern human remains
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I den samme dal findes også efterladenskaber fra moderne mennesker
11:07
from about the same date, 30,000 years ago,
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fra ca. samme tid; 30.000 år siden.
11:09
and some of those are from local chert,
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Og nogle af disse er af lokal flint,
11:11
but more -- but many of them are made
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men ydermere er mange af dem lavet
11:13
from obsidian from a long way away.
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af obsidian fra langt væk.
11:15
And when human beings began
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Og da mennesker begyndte
11:17
moving objects around like this,
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at flytte ting på den måde,
11:19
it was evidence that they were exchanging between groups.
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var det tegn på, at de handlede grupperne imellem.
11:22
Trade is 10 times as old as farming.
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Handel er ti gange ældre end landbrug.
11:25
People forget that. People think of trade as a modern thing.
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Det glemmer folk. Folk tænker på handel som en moderne ting.
11:28
Exchange between groups has been going on
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Bytteri mellem grupper har foregået
11:30
for a hundred thousand years.
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i 100.000 år.
11:33
And the earliest evidence for it crops up
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Og de tidligste beviser på det dukker op
11:35
somewhere between 80 and 120,000 years ago in Africa,
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et sted mellem 80.000 og 120.000 år siden i Afrika,
11:38
when you see obsidian and jasper and other things
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når man ser obsidian og jaspis og andre ting,
11:41
moving long distances in Ethiopia.
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der er flyttet over store afstande i Etiopien.
11:44
You also see seashells --
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Man finder også konkylier,
11:46
as discovered by a team here in Oxford --
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som et hold her fra Oxford opdagede,
11:48
moving 125 miles inland
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der er transporteret 200km ind i landet
11:50
from the Mediterranean in Algeria.
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fra Middelhavet til Algeriet.
11:53
And that's evidence that people
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Og det er bevis på, at mennesker
11:55
have started exchanging between groups.
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var begyndt at bytte grupperne imellem.
11:57
And that will have led to specialization.
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Og det må have leddet til specialisering.
11:59
How do you know that long-distance movement
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Hvordan ved man, at langdistancetransport
12:01
means trade rather than migration?
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betyder handel fremfor migration?
12:04
Well, you look at modern hunter gatherers like aboriginals,
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Ja, man ser på moderne jægersamlere som aboriginere,
12:06
who quarried for stone axes at a place called Mount Isa,
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der brød sten til økser et sted, der hedder Mt. Isa,
12:09
which was a quarry owned by the Kalkadoon tribe.
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hvilket er et stenbrud, der ejes af Kalkadoon-stammen.
12:12
They traded them with their neighbors
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De byttede økserne med naboerne
12:14
for things like stingray barbs,
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for ting som pilrokker.
12:16
and the consequence was that stone axes
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Og konsekvensen var, at stenøkser
12:18
ended up over a large part of Australia.
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endte op i store dele af Australien.
12:20
So long-distance movement of tools
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Så langdistancetransport af redskaber
12:22
is a sign of trade, not migration.
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er et tegn på handel, ikke migration.
12:25
What happens when you cut people off from exchange,
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Hvad sker der, når man afskærer folk fra udveksling,
12:28
from the ability to exchange and specialize?
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fra muligheden for at udveksle og specialisere sig?
12:31
And the answer is that
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Og svaret er, at
12:33
not only do you slow down technological progress,
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ikke alene sinker man deres teknologiske udvikling,
12:35
you can actually throw it into reverse.
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man kan faktisk få den til at gå baglæns.
12:38
An example is Tasmania.
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Et eksempel er Tasmanien.
12:40
When the sea level rose and Tasmania became an island 10,000 years ago,
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Da havniveauet steg og Tasmanien blev en ø for 10.000 år siden,
12:43
the people on it not only experienced
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oplevede de lokale ikke alene
12:45
slower progress than people on the mainland,
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en langsommere udvikling, end folk på hovedlandet gjorde,
12:48
they actually experienced regress.
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de oplevede faktisk tilbagegang.
12:50
They gave up the ability to make stone tools
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De mistede evnen til at lave benredskaber
12:52
and fishing equipment and clothing
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og fiskeudstyr og beklædning,
12:54
because the population of about 4,000 people
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fordi befolkningen på ca. 4.000 mennesker
12:57
was simply not large enough
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simpelthen ikke var stor nok
12:59
to maintain the specialized skills
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til at opretholde de specialiserede færdigheder,
13:01
necessary to keep the technology they had.
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der behøves for at bevare teknologierne, de havde.
13:04
It's as if the people in this room were plonked on a desert island.
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Det svarer til, at menneskene i dette lokale plumpede ned på en øde ø.
13:06
How many of the things in our pockets
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Hvor mange af tingene i vore lommer,
13:08
could we continue to make after 10,000 years?
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ville vi stadig kunne lave om 10.000 år?
13:12
It didn't happen in Tierra del Fuego --
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Det skete ikke i Tierra del Fuego -
13:14
similar island, similar people.
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lignende ø, lignende folk.
13:16
The reason: because Tierra del Fuego
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Grunden er, at Tierra del Fuego
13:18
is separated from South America by a much narrower straight,
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er adskilt fra Sydamerika af et meget smallere stræde.
13:21
and there was trading contact across that straight
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Og der var handelskontakter på tværs af strædet
13:23
throughout 10,000 years.
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gennem 10.000 år.
13:25
The Tasmanians were isolated.
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Tasmanierne var isolerede.
13:28
Go back to this image again
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Vend igen tilbage til dette billede
13:30
and ask yourself, not only who made it and for who,
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og spørg dig selv, ikke blot hvem der lavede den til hvem,
13:33
but who knew how to make it.
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men hvem vidste, hvordan man laver den.
13:36
In the case of the stone axe, the man who made it knew how to make it.
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I stenøksens tilfælde vidste manden, der lavede den, hvordan den laves.
13:39
But who knows how to make a computer mouse?
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Men hvem ved, hvordan man laver en computermus?
13:42
Nobody, literally nobody.
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Ingen, bogstavelig talt ingen!
13:45
There is nobody on the planet who knows how to make a computer mouse.
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Der er ingen på planeten, der ved, hvordan man laver en computermus.
13:48
I mean this quite seriously.
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Det mener jeg ret alvorligt.
13:50
The president of the computer mouse company doesn't know.
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Direktøren for computermusfirmaet ved det ikke.
13:52
He just knows how to run a company.
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Han ved bare, hvordan man leder et firma.
13:55
The person on the assembly line doesn't know
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Personen ved samlebåndet ved det ikke,
13:57
because he doesn't know how to drill an oil well
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for han ved ikke, hvordan man borer en oliebrønd
13:59
to get oil out to make plastic, and so on.
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og får olie op, så man kan lave plastik osv.
14:02
We all know little bits, but none of us knows the whole.
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Vi ved alle mindre dele, men ingen af os ved det hele.
14:05
I am of course quoting from a famous essay
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Jeg citerer selvfølgelig fra et berømt essay
14:07
by Leonard Read, the economist in the 1950s,
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af økonomen Leonard Reed fra 1950erne
14:10
called "I, Pencil"
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med titlen "Jeg, en Blyant",
14:12
in which he wrote about how a pencil came to be made,
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i hvilken han skriver om, hvordan en blyant blev fremstillet,
14:15
and how nobody knows even how to make a pencil,
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og om hvordan ingen ved, hvordan man fremstiller en blyant,
14:18
because the people who assemble it don't know how to mine graphite,
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fordi folkene, der samler den, ikke ved, hvordan man udvinder grafit.
14:21
and they don't know how to fell trees and that kind of thing.
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Og de ved ikke, hvordan man fælder træer og den slags ting.
14:24
And what we've done in human society,
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Og hvad vi har opnået i det menneskelige samfund,
14:26
through exchange and specialization,
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gennem udveksling og specialisering
14:28
is we've created
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er, at vi har skabt
14:30
the ability to do things that we don't even understand.
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evnen til at lave ting, vi ikke selv forstår.
14:33
It's not the same with language.
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Det er ikke det samme som sprog.
14:35
With language we have to transfer ideas
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Med sprog overfører vi idéer,
14:37
that we understand with each other.
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som vi forstår sammen.
14:40
But with technology,
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Men med teknologi
14:42
we can actually do things that are beyond our capabilities.
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kan vi faktisk lave ting, der ligger hinsides vore evner.
14:44
We've gone beyond the capacity of the human mind
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Vi er rejst hinsides den menneskelige hjernes evner
14:47
to an extraordinary degree.
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i en ekstraordinær grad.
14:49
And by the way,
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Og i øvrigt,
14:51
that's one of the reasons that I'm not interested
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det er en af grundene til, at jeg ikke er interesseret
14:54
in the debate about I.Q.,
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i I.Q.-debatten,
14:56
about whether some groups have higher I.Q.s than other groups.
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om nogle grupper har højere I.Q. end andre grupper,
14:59
It's completely irrelevant.
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det er fuldstændig irrelevant.
15:01
What's relevant to a society
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Det, der er relevant for samfundet,
15:04
is how well people are communicating their ideas,
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er, hvor godt folk kommunikerer sine idéer
15:07
and how well they're cooperating,
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og hvor godt, de samarbejder,
15:09
not how clever the individuals are.
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ikke hvor kloge individerne er.
15:11
So we've created something called the collective brain.
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Så vi har skabt noget, der hedder den kollektive hjerne.
15:13
We're just the nodes in the network.
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Vi er blot knobene i nettet.
15:15
We're the neurons in this brain.
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Vi er neuronerne i denne hjerne.
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It's the interchange of ideas,
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Det er udvekslingen af idéer,
15:20
the meeting and mating of ideas between them,
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mødet mellem og parringen af idéer,
15:22
that is causing technological progress,
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der fremkalder den teknologiske udvikling,
15:25
incrementally, bit by bit.
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gradvist, lidt efter lidt.
15:27
However, bad things happen.
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Imidlertid sker der også dårlige ting.
15:29
And in the future, as we go forward,
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Og i fremtiden, som vi bevæger os fremefter,
15:32
we will, of course, experience terrible things.
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vil vi, selvfølgelig, opleve frygtelige ting.
15:35
There will be wars; there will be depressions;
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Der vil komme krige, der vil komme krisetider,
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there will be natural disasters.
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der vil komme naturkatastrofer.
15:39
Awful things will happen in this century, I'm absolutely sure.
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Rædselsfulde ting vil ske i dette århundrede, det er jeg helt sikker på.
15:42
But I'm also sure that, because of the connections people are making,
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Men jeg er også sikker, grundet forbindelserne folk laver
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and the ability of ideas
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og idéers evner
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to meet and to mate
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til at mødes og parres
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as never before,
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som aldrig før.
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I'm also sure
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Jeg er også sikker på,
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that technology will advance,
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at teknologi vil gøre fremskridt
15:55
and therefore living standards will advance.
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og at levestandarder derfor vil øges.
15:57
Because through the cloud,
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For gennem skyen,
15:59
through crowd sourcing,
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gennem udbud til mængderne,
16:01
through the bottom-up world that we've created,
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gennem denne Verden, der står på hovedet og som vi har skabt,
16:03
where not just the elites but everybody
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hvor ikke blot eliten, men alle
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is able to have their ideas
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er i stand til at have sine idéer
16:08
and make them meet and mate,
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og få dem til at mødes og parres,
16:10
we are surely accelerating the rate of innovation.
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her accelererer vi med sikkerhed innovationshastigheden.
16:13
Thank you.
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Tak.
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(Applause)
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