My son was a Columbine shooter. This is my story | Sue Klebold | TED

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00:12
The last time I heard my son's voice
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L'última volta que vaig sentir la veu del meu fill
00:15
was when he walked out the front door
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va ser quan sortia per la porta de casa
00:17
on his way to school.
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per anar-se'n a escola.
00:20
He called out one word in the darkness:
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En la foscor va dir una sola paraula:
00:23
"Bye."
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"Adéu."
00:24
It was April 20, 1999.
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Era el 20 d'abril del 1999.
00:28
Later that morning, at Columbine High School,
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Més tard, a l'institut Columbine,
00:31
my son Dylan and his friend Eric
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el meu fill Dylan y el seu amic Eric
00:34
killed 12 students and a teacher
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van assassinar 12 alumnes i un professor
00:38
and wounded more than 20 others before taking their own lives.
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i feriren més de 20 persones abans de suicidar-se.
00:42
Thirteen innocent people were killed,
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Tretze persones innocents van ser assassinades,
00:46
leaving their loved ones in a state of grief and trauma.
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i els seus coneguts patiren el dolor i el trauma.
00:50
Others sustained injuries,
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Altres van rebre ferides i lesions,
00:52
some resulting in disfigurement and permanent disability.
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algunes de les quals han resultat en discapacitat permanent.
00:57
But the enormity of the tragedy
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Però la enormitat de la tragèdia
00:59
can't be measured only by the number of deaths and injuries that took place.
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no pot medir-se només pel nombre de morts i ferides.
01:04
There's no way to quantify the psychological damage
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És impossible quantificar el mal psicològic
01:07
of those who were in the school,
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que patiren aquells que es trobàven a l'institut,
01:09
or who took part in rescue or cleanup efforts.
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o aquells que feren eines de rescat o neteja.
01:14
There's no way to assess the magnitude of a tragedy like Columbine,
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És impossible calcular la magnitud d'una tragèdia com la de Columbine,
01:18
especially when it can be a blueprint
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especialment quan pot donar idees
01:20
for other shooters who go on to commit atrocities of their own.
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per altres assassins que cometran les seues pròpies atrocitats.
01:25
Columbine was a tidal wave,
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La tragèdia de Columbine va ser un sisme,
01:28
and when the crash ended,
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i quan va acabar,
01:29
it would take years for the community and for society
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a la comunitat i la societat els costaria anys
01:33
to comprehend its impact.
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comprendre el seu impacte.
01:36
It has taken me years to try to accept my son's legacy.
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A mi m'ha costat anys intentar acceptar el llegat del meu fill.
01:41
The cruel behavior that defined the end of his life
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El comportament cruent que va definir el final de la seua vida
01:44
showed me that he was a completely different person from the one I knew.
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em va mostrar que era una persona totalmente diferent a la que coneixia.
01:49
Afterwards people asked,
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Després la gent em preguntava,
01:51
"How could you not know?
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"Com pot ser que no ho saberes?"
01:54
What kind of a mother were you?"
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Quina mena de mare eres?"
01:57
I still ask myself those same questions.
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Jo encara em faig les mateixes preguntes.
02:00
Before the shootings, I thought of myself as a good mom.
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Abans de la matança, pensava que era una bona mare.
02:04
Helping my children become caring,
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Intentar fer dels meus fills persones afectuoses,
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healthy, responsible adults
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sanes i responsables
02:09
was the most important role of my life.
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era el paper més important a la meua vida.
02:13
But the tragedy convinced me that I failed as a parent,
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Però la tragèdia em va convèncer de que havia fracassat com a mare,
02:17
and it's partially this sense of failure that brings me here today.
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i, en part, és aquest sentiment de fracàs el que m'ha fet vindre aquí avui.
02:23
Aside from his father,
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A banda del seu pare,
02:24
I was the one person who knew and loved Dylan the most.
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jo era la persona que més coneixia i estimava Dylan.
02:28
If anyone could have known what was happening,
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Si algú hagués pogut saber el que passava,
02:30
it should have been me, right?
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tindria que haver sigut jo, no?
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But I didn't know.
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Però no ho sabia.
02:37
Today, I'm here to share the experience
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Avui he vingut a compartir què es sent
02:39
of what it's like to be the mother of someone who kills and hurts.
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al ser la mare d'algú que ha matat i ha fet mal.
02:44
For years after the tragedy, I combed through memories,
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Els anys següents a la tragèdia repassava els records
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trying to figure out exactly where I failed as a parent.
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intentant esbrinar on exactament havia fracassat com a mare.
02:52
But there are no simple answers.
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Però no hi ha respostes simples.
02:54
I can't give you any solutions.
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No puc donar-vos cap solució.
02:57
All I can do
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Tot el que puc fer
02:59
is share what I have learned.
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és compartir el que he aprés.
03:03
When I talk to people who didn't know me before the shootings,
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Quan parlo amb persones que no em coneixien abans de la matança,
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I have three challenges to meet.
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tinc que superar tres reptes.
03:09
First, when I walk into a room like this,
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Primer, quan entro en una sala com aquesta,
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I never know if someone there has experienced loss
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mai sé si algú ha patit alguna pèrdua
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because of what my son did.
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pel que va fer el meu fill.
03:19
I feel a need to acknowledge the suffering caused by a member of my family
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Sento la necessitat de reconéixer el patiment causat per un familiar meu
03:24
who isn't here to do it for himself.
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que no està aquí per fer-ho ell mateix.
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So first, with all of my heart,
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Així que primer, amb tot el meu cor,
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I'm sorry if my son has caused you pain.
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ho sent molt si el meu fill us ha causat dolor.
03:35
The second challenge I have
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El segon repte al que m'enfronto
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is that I must ask for understanding and even compassion
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és que he de demanar comprensió i fins i tot compassió
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when I talk about my son's death as a suicide.
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quan parlo de la mort del meu fill com un suïcidi.
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Two years before he died,
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Dos anys abans de morir,
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he wrote on a piece of paper in a notebook
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va escriure en un quadern
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that he was cutting himself.
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que s'estava autolessionant.
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He said that he was in agony
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Deia que vivia una agonía
03:54
and wanted to get a gun so he could end his life.
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i que volia una pistola per a acabar amb la seua vida.
03:57
I didn't know about any of this until months after his death.
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Jo no en sabia res d'això fins mesos després de la seva mort.
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When I talk about his death as a suicide,
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Quan parlo de la seva mort com a un suïcidi,
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I'm not trying to downplay the viciousness he showed at the end of his life.
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no intento minimitzar la crueltat que va mostrar al final de la seva vida.
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I'm trying to understand
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El que faig és intentar entendre
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how his suicidal thinking
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com els seus pensaments suïcides
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led to murder.
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van tornar-se assassinat.
04:16
After a lot of reading and talking with experts,
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Després de llegir molt i parlar amb experts,
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I have come to believe
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he arribat a creure
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that his involvement in the shootings was rooted not in his desire to kill
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que el seu involucrament en el tiroteig no es deu al seu desig de matar
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but in his desire to die.
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sino al seu desig de morir.
04:30
The third challenge I have when I talk about my son's murder-suicide
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El tercer repte que trobe al parlar d'aquest assassinat-suïcidi
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is that I'm talking about mental health --
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és que en parlo de la salut mental --
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excuse me --
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disculpeu-me --
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is that I'm talking about mental health,
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és que en parlo de la salut mental --
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or brain health, as I prefer to call it, because it's more concrete.
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o la salut del cervell, terme que prefereixo per ser més concret.
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And in the same breath, I'm talking about violence.
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I de passada, parlo de violència.
04:51
The last thing I want to do is to contribute to the misunderstanding
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No voldria contribuir de cap manera al malentés
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that already exists around mental illness.
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que existeix al voltant de la malaltia mental.
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Only a very small percent of those who have a mental illness
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Sols un xicotet percentatge de les persones amb malalties mentals
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are violent toward other people,
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són violents amb els altres,
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but of those who die by suicide,
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però d'aquells que moren per suïcidi,
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it's estimated that about 75 to maybe more than 90 percent
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s'estima que des d'un 75 per cent fins més d'un 90 per cent
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have a diagnosable mental health condition of some kind.
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pateixen una malaltia mental diagnosticable d'alguna mena.
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As you all know very well,
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Com tots sabeu de sobres,
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our mental health care system is not equipped to help everyone,
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el nostre sistema sanitari és deficitari en quant a salut mental,
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and not everyone with destructive thoughts
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i no tots els que pateixen pensaments destructius
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fits the criteria
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compleixen els criteris
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for a specific diagnosis.
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per un diagnòstic específic.
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Many who have ongoing feelings
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Molts dels que experimenten pensaments recurrents
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of fear or anger or hopelessness
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de por, ira o desesperança
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are never assessed or treated.
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mai són avaluats o tratats.
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Too often, they get our attention only if they reach a behavioral crisis.
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Sovint capten la nostra atenció només si arriben a una crisi de comportament.
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If estimates are correct
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Si les estimacions són correctes
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that about one to two percent of all suicides
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segons les quals d'un a dos per cent dels suïcidis
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involves the murder of another person,
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incloen l'assassinat d'un altra persona,
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when suicide rates rise, as they are rising for some populations,
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quan la taxa de suïcidis puja, com ho fa per algunes poblacions,
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the murder-suicide rates will rise as well.
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la taxa de suïcidis-assassinats també en pujarà.
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I wanted to understand what was going on in Dylan's mind prior to his death,
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Volia entendre el que passava al cap de Dylan abans de la seva mort,
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so I looked for answers from other survivors of suicide loss.
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així que vaig buscar respostes d'altres supervivents de suïcidi.
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I did research and volunteered to help with fund-raising events,
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Vaig investigar i fer voluntariat per ajudar amb events de recaudació,
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and whenever I could,
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i sempre que podia,
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I talked with those who had survived their own suicidal crisis
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parlava amb els que van sobreviure
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or attempt.
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els seus intents de suïcidi.
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One of the most helpful conversations I had
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Una de les conversacions més útils que vaig tindre
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was with a coworker
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va ser amb un company de feina
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who overheard me talking to someone else
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que em va sentir parlar amb una altra persona
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in my office cubicle.
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a la oficina.
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She heard me say that Dylan could not have loved me
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Em va sentir dir que Dylan no m'estimava
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if he could do something as horrible as he did.
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si havia fet una cosa tan dolenta com aquella.
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Later, when she found me alone,
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Després, quan em va trobar a soles,
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she apologized for overhearing that conversation,
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es va disculpar per escoltar la conversa,
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but told me that I was wrong.
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però em va dir que m'equivocava.
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She said that when she was a young, single mother
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Em va dir que quan era una mare jove i soltera
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with three small children,
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amb tres criatures,
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she became severely depressed and was hospitalized to keep her safe.
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va agafar una depressió forta i va ser hospitalitzada.
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At the time, she was certain
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En aquells moments estava segura
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that her children would be better off if she died,
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de que els seus nens estarien millor si ella moria,
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so she had made a plan to end her life.
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així que va planejar acabar amb la seva vida.
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She assured me that a mother's love was the strongest bond on Earth,
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M'assegurava que l'amor d'una mare és el vincle més fort que existeix,
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and that she loved her children more than anything in the world,
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i que s'estimava els seus fills més que res en aquest món,
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but because of her illness,
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però que per la seva enfermetat,
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she was sure that they would be better off without her.
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sabia que estarien millor sense ella.
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What she said and what I've learned from others
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El que em va dir i el que vaig aprendre d'altres
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is that we do not make the so-called decision or choice
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és que nosaltres no prenem la decisió
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to die by suicide
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de morir suïcidant-nos
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in the same way that we choose what car to drive
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com si ens decidirem per un cotxe
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or where to go on a Saturday night.
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o què fer un dissabte a la nit.
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When someone is in an extremely suicidal state,
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Quan algú es troba en un estat extrem suïcida,
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they are in a stage four medical health emergency.
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es troben al nivell quatre d'una emergència mèdica.
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Their thinking is impaired and they've lost access to tools of self-governance.
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El seu raciocini es veu afectat i perden l'accés a l'autogovernament.
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Even though they can make a plan and act with logic,
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Encara que poden planejar i guiar-se per la lògica,
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their sense of truth is distorted by a filter of pain
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el sentit de la veritat es troba distorssionat per un filtre de dolor
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through which they interpret their reality.
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a través del qual interpreten la realitat.
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Some people can be very good at hiding this state,
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Alguna gent és molt hàbil amagant aquest estat,
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and they often have good reasons for doing that.
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i a sovint tenen bones raons per fer-ho.
08:10
Many of us have suicidal thoughts at some point,
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Molts de nosaltres hem tingut pensaments suïcides,
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but persistent, ongoing thoughts of suicide
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però pensaments persistents suicides
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and devising a means to die
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i el fet de planejar formes de morir
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are symptoms of pathology,
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son símptomes d'una patología,
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and like many illnesses,
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i com amb altres malalties,
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the condition has to be recognized and treated
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aquesta condició ha de ser reconeguda i tractada
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before a life is lost.
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abans de que es perda una vida.
08:30
But my son's death was not purely a suicide.
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Però la mort del meu fill no va ser només un suïcidi.
08:34
It involved mass murder.
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Va involucrar una massacre.
08:36
I wanted to know how his suicidal thinking became homicidal.
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M'interessava saber com un pensament suïcida va passar a homicida.
08:43
But research is sparse and there are no simple answers.
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Però hi ha pocs estudis i cap respota simple.
08:48
Yes, he probably had ongoing depression.
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Sí, segurament patia una depressió permanent.
08:52
He had a personality that was perfectionistic and self-reliant,
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La seva personalitat era perfeccionista i independent,
08:58
and that made him less likely to seek help from others.
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i això feia que evitara demanar ajuda als demés.
09:03
He had experienced triggering events at the school
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Havia patit succesos traumàtics a l'institut
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that left him feeling debased and humiliated and mad.
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que el van fer sentir menyspreat, humiliat i enfadat.
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And he had a complicated friendship
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I tenia una amistat complicada
09:17
with a boy who shared his feelings of rage and alienation,
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amb un xicon que compartia els seus sentiments de ràbia i alienació,
09:21
and who was seriously disturbed,
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i que estava transtornat,
09:24
controlling and homicidal.
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era controlador i homicida.
09:28
And on top of this period in his life
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I en aquest moment de la seua vida,
09:30
of extreme vulnerability and fragility,
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un període d'extrema vulnerabilitat i fragilitat,
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Dylan found access to guns
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Dylan va trobar accés a armes
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even though we'd never owned any in our home.
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encara que mai n'haviem tingut a casa.
09:40
It was appallingly easy for a 17-year-old boy to buy guns,
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Era increíblement senzill que un noi de 17 anys comprés armes,
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both legally and illegally, without my permission or knowledge.
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tan legal com ilegalment, sense el meu permís o coneixement.
09:51
And somehow, 17 years and many school shootings later,
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I no sé com, 17 anys i moltes matances després,
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it's still appallingly easy.
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continúa sent increíblement senzill.
10:00
What Dylan did that day broke my heart,
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El que Dylan va fer aquell dia em trencà el cor,
10:05
and as trauma so often does,
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i com sol passar amb els traumes,
10:06
it took a toll on my body and on my mind.
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em va passar factura tant al cos com a la ment.
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Two years after the shootings, I got breast cancer,
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Dos anys després, em diagnosticaren càncer de mama,
10:15
and two years after that, I began to have mental health problems.
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i dos anys després d'això, vaig començar a tindre problemes mentals.
10:20
On top of the constant, perpetual grief
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A banda de la pena constant i perpètua
10:23
I was terrified that I would run into a family member
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m'aterroritzava trobar-me amb algun familiar
10:27
of someone Dylan had killed,
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de les persones que Dylan havia matat,
10:29
or be accosted by the press
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o que m'assetjaria la prensa
10:31
or by an angry citizen.
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o un ciutadà furiós.
10:34
I was afraid to turn on the news,
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Em feia por engegar les notícies
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afraid to hear myself being called a terrible parent or a disgusting person.
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i sentir que em digueren mala mare o que sóc una persona horrible.
10:45
I started having panic attacks.
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Vaig començar amb els atacs de pànic.
10:49
The first bout started four years after the shootings,
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El primer episodi va començar quatre anys després del tiroteig,
10:53
when I was getting ready for the depositions
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quan em preparava per les deposicions
10:55
and would have to meet the victims' families face to face.
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on anava a trobar-me cara a cara amb els familiars de les víctimes.
10:59
The second round started six years after the shootings,
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El segon episodi va ser sis anys després,
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when I was preparing to speak publicly about murder-suicide
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mentre em preparava per parlar en públic sobre l'assassinat-suïcidi
11:06
for the first time at a conference.
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per primera vegada a una conferència.
11:09
Both episodes lasted several weeks.
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Ambdós episodis duraren diverses setmanes.
11:13
The attacks happened everywhere:
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Els atacs ocorrien a qualsevol lloc:
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in the hardware store, in my office,
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a la ferretería, a l'oficina,
11:19
or even while reading a book in bed.
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o inclós llegint un llibre al llit.
11:22
My mind would suddenly lock into this spinning cycle of terror
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La meva ment es tancava de sobte en un cercle de terror
11:27
and no matter how I hard I tried
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i per molt que intentara
11:29
to calm myself down or reason my way out of it,
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calmar-me o raonar-ho
11:33
I couldn't do it.
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no era capaç de fer-ho.
11:36
It felt as if my brain was trying to kill me,
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Era com si el meu cervell intentara matar-me,
11:39
and then, being afraid of being afraid
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i després, asustat de tindre por
11:42
consumed all of my thoughts.
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em consumira tots els pensaments.
11:45
That's when I learned firsthand
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En aquell moment vaig aprendre
11:46
what it feels like to have a malfunctioning mind,
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el que és tindre un cervell que no funciona bé,
11:50
and that's when I truly became a brain health advocate.
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i quan em vaig convertir en defensora de la salut mental.
11:55
With therapy and medication and self-care,
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Gràcies a la teràpia, la medicació i al cuidar-me,
11:58
life eventually returned
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la vida va acabar tornant
12:00
to whatever could be thought of as normal under the circumstances.
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a una mena de normalitat donades les circunstàncies.
12:05
When I looked back on all that had happened,
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Quan reflectia sobre tot el que va passar,
12:07
I could see that my son's spiral into dysfunction
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me'n vaig adonar de que la caiguda en la disfunció del meu fill
12:11
probably occurred over a period of about two years,
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segurament va passar en un període de dos anys,
12:15
plenty of time to get him help,
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temps de sobres per que rebés ajuda,
12:18
if only someone had known that he needed help
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si algú se'n hagués adonat de que necessitava ajuda
12:21
and known what to do.
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i hagués sabut què fer.
12:27
Every time someone asks me,
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Cada vegada que algú em pregunta,
12:30
"How could you not have known?",
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"Com pot ser que no ho saberes?",
12:32
it feels like a punch in the gut.
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sento com una punyada a la panxa.
12:35
It carries accusation and taps into my feelings of guilt
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És una pregunta acusadora que colpeja els meus sentiments de culpa
12:40
that no matter how much therapy I've had
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els quals mai podré erradicar del tot
12:42
I will never fully eradicate.
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per molta teràpia que faci.
12:45
But here's something I've learned:
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Però una cosa n'he aprés:
12:48
if love were enough
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Si l'amor fora suficient
12:50
to stop someone who is suicidal
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per evitar que una persona suïcida
12:52
from hurting themselves,
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es fes mal a ella mateixa,
12:54
suicides would hardly ever happen.
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no hi haurien gairebé suïcidis.
12:58
But love is not enough,
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Però l'amor no és prou,
13:01
and suicide is prevalent.
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i el suïcidi prevaleix.
13:03
It's the second leading cause of death
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És la segona causa de mort
13:06
for people age 10 to 34,
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de la gent entre 10 i 34 anys,
13:09
and 15 percent of American youth
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i el 15 per cent dels joves americans
13:12
report having made a suicide plan
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han confessat haver fet plans de suïcidi
13:14
in the last year.
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només l'any passat.
13:17
I've learned that no matter how much we want to believe we can,
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Jo vaig aprendré que per molt que creiem que podem,
13:22
we cannot know or control
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no sóm capaços de controlar o conéixer
13:25
everything our loved ones think and feel,
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tot el que fan o senten els nostres éssers estimats.
13:28
and the stubborn belief that we are somehow different,
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I que la convicció de que nosaltres serem diferents,
13:32
that someone we love would never think of hurting themselves
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que els nostres familiars mai pensarien en fer-se mal
13:35
or someone else,
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a ells o als altres,
13:37
can cause us to miss
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pot fer que no ens n'assabentem
13:39
what's hidden in plain sight.
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del que s'amaga a simple vista.
13:43
And if worst case scenarios do come to pass,
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I si el pitjor dels casos arriba a passar,
13:48
we'll have to learn to forgive ourselves for not knowing
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tindrem que aprendre a perdonar-nos per no saber
13:52
or for not asking the right questions
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o per no fer les preguntes adequades
13:54
or not finding the right treatment.
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o per no trobar el tractament adequat.
13:59
We should always assume
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Sempre deuriem ser capaços d'assumir
14:00
that someone we love may be suffering,
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que algú que volem pot estar sofrint,
14:03
regardless of what they say
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sense tenir en compte el que diguen
14:06
or how they act.
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o com actúen.
14:08
We should listen with our whole being,
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Deuriem escoltar amb tots els nostres instints,
14:11
without judgments,
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sense jutjar,
14:13
and without offering solutions.
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i sense oferir solucions.
14:19
I know that I will live with this tragedy,
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Jo sé que viuré amb aquesta tragèdia,
14:22
with these multiple tragedies,
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amb aquestes múltiples tragèdies,
14:24
for the rest of my life.
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la resta de la meva vida.
14:27
I know that in the minds of many,
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Sé que per a molta gent,
14:32
what I lost can't compare to what the other families lost.
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el que vaig perdre no es pot comparar a la resta de famílies.
14:38
I know my struggle doesn't make theirs any easier.
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Sé que la meva lluita no alleugera la seva.
14:42
I know there are even some who think I don't have the right to any pain,
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Sé que hi ha alguns que pensen que no tinc dret a sentir dolor,
14:48
but only to a life of permanent penance.
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sinó a una vida de penitència eterna.
14:53
In the end what I know comes down to this:
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Al cap i a la fi el que jo sé es pot resumir així:
14:57
the tragic fact is that even the most vigilant and responsible of us
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la tragèdia és que encara el més alerta i responsable de nosaltres
15:03
may not be able to help,
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pot trobar que no resulta d'ajuda,
15:06
but for love's sake,
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però pel que més volgueu,
15:08
we must never stop trying
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no hem de deixar d'intentar
15:11
to know the unknowable.
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conéixer el desconegut.
15:13
Thank you.
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Gràcies.
15:14
(Applause)
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(Aplaudiments)
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