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譯者: 易帆 余
審譯者: Adrienne Lin
00:12
I was raised by lesbians in the mountains,
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我是在山上,被女同性戀撫養長大的,
00:14
and I sort of came like a forest gnome
to New York City a while back.
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而我就像來自森林的精靈一般,
來到紐約市辦點事再回去。
00:18
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:19
Really messed with my head,
but I'll get into that later.
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紐約把我腦子搞得很複雜,
稍後我再說明。
00:24
I'll start with when
I was eight years old.
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我從我八歲開始講起。
00:27
I took a wood box,
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我拿了一個木盒,
00:29
and I buried a dollar bill, a pen
and a fork inside this box in Colorado.
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把一張紙鈔、一隻筆和一支叉子
放進盒中後埋在科羅拉多洲。
00:35
And I thought some strange humanoids
or aliens in 500 years would find this box
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我在想,一些奇怪的生物或
外星人會在五百年後找到這盒子,
00:40
and learn about the way
our species exchanged ideas,
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並了解我們人類是如何交換想法,
00:45
maybe how we ate our spaghetti.
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可能是我們吃義大利麵的方式等等,
00:47
I really didn't know.
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我真的不知道。
00:49
Anyway, this is kind of funny,
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不管怎樣,這還是挺有趣的。
00:50
because here I am, 30 years later,
and I'm still making boxes.
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因為三十年後我來到這演說,
且我仍然在製造盒子。
00:56
Now, at some point I was in Hawaii --
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在不久前,我在夏威夷。
00:59
I like to hike and surf
and do all that weird stuff,
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我喜歡健行和衝浪
和嘗試各種奇怪的事情,
01:01
and I was making a collage for my ma.
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我給我媽做了一個拼貼畫。
01:04
And I took a dictionary
and I ripped it up,
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我拿起了一本字典,然後把它撕了。
01:06
and I made it into a sort
of Agnes Martin grid,
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我將它弄成艾格尼斯.馬丁格子般,
01:09
and I poured resin all over it
and a bee got stuck.
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倒入樹脂,一隻蜜蜂被困住了。
01:11
Now, she's afraid of bees
and she's allergic to them,
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我媽很怕蜜蜂且對牠們過敏,
01:14
so I poured more resin on the canvas,
thinking I could hide it or something.
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於是我往畫板上倒了更多的樹脂,
希望可以遮蓋那隻蜜蜂什麼的。
01:18
Instead, the opposite happened:
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然而,卻發生相反的事:
01:20
It sort of created a magnification,
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像是增加了一種放大效果,
01:22
like a magnifying glass,
on the dictionary text.
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就像用放大鏡來看字典裡的文字。
01:25
So what did I do? I built more boxes.
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所以接下來我幹什麼了?
我做了更多的盒子。
01:27
This time, I started putting
electronics, frogs,
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這次,我開始放電子產品、青蛙,
01:31
strange bottles I'd find in the street --
anything I could find --
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我在街上找奇特的瓶子,
任何我可以找到的東西,
01:35
because I was always
finding things my whole life,
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因為我終其一生在尋找東西,
01:37
and trying to make relationships
and tell stories between these objects.
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和嘗試建立不同的關係,
並述說這些事物之間的故事。
01:41
So I started drawing around the objects,
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所以我開始畫周圍的事物,
01:44
and I realized: Holy moly,
I can draw in space!
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而我意識到:天啊,
我可以在空間裡作畫!
01:47
I can make free-floating lines,
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我可以畫一些天馬行空的線條,
01:49
like the way you would draw
around a dead body at a crime scene.
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就像那些在犯罪現場的
屍體附近畫的線。
01:52
So I took the objects out,
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所以我將物件取出,
01:54
and I created my own taxonomy
of invented specimens.
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我創造自己的一套分類法。
01:57
First, botanical --
which you can kind of get a sense of.
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首先是植物類,
你們應該可以了解,
02:01
Then I made some
weird insects and creatures.
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然後我開始弄了一些
奇怪的昆蟲和生物。
02:05
It was really fun; I was just
drawing on the layers of resin.
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很有趣,我只是在多層的樹脂上作畫。
02:08
And it was cool, because I was actually
starting to have shows and stuff,
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這超酷的,因為我開始展覽我的東西,
02:12
I was making some money,
I could take my girlfriend for dinner,
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我開始賺錢,我可以帶女友去吃大餐,
02:15
and like, go to Sizzler.
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像是去時時樂用餐等等。
02:16
It was some good shit, man.
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這超爽的,你懂吧?
02:18
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:19
At some point, I got up to the human form,
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從某個時候開始,我開始做人體模型,
02:23
life-size resin sculptures
with drawings of humans inside the layers.
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有人體繪畫的真人大小樹脂雕塑。
02:28
This was great, except for one thing:
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這很棒,但有件事例外:
02:30
I was going to die.
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我快要掛掉了。
02:32
I didn't know what to do,
because the resin was going to kill me.
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我不知道該怎麼辦,
因為那些樹脂快要把我毒死了。
02:35
And I went to bed every night
thinking about it.
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我每晚睡前都在想這件事。
02:37
So I tried using glass.
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於是我嘗試用玻璃。
02:40
I started drawing on the layers of glass,
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我開始在玻璃上作畫,
02:42
almost like if you drew on a window,
then you put another window,
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幾乎像是在窗戶上畫畫,
然後再疊上另一面窗戶,
02:45
and another window, and you had
all these windows together
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再一面窗戶,
然後你把所有窗子都放在一起,
02:48
that made a three-dimensional composition.
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形成一個3D立體空間的組合。
02:50
And this really worked,
because I could stop using the resin.
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這真的行得通,
因為我可以不再使用樹脂。
02:53
So I did this for years,
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於是我持續做了許多年,
02:55
which culminated in a very large work,
which I call "The Triptych."
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我累積了許多作品,
我稱之為「三聯畫」。
「三聯畫」有很大的程度受到
03:00
"The Triptych" was largely inspired
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03:02
by Hieronymus Bosch's
"[The] Garden of Earthly Delights,"
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耶羅尼米斯.博斯《人間地獄》的啟發,
它是一幅存放在西班牙
普拉多博物館的油畫。
03:05
which is a painting
in the [Museo del] Prado in Spain.
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03:07
Do you guys know this painting?
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你們知道這幅作品嗎?
03:09
Good, it's a cool painting.
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很好,那是一幅不錯的作品。
03:10
It's kind of ahead of its time, they say.
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有些人會說,它是走在時代的尖端。
03:12
So, "The Triptych."
I'll walk you through this piece.
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我簡單地帶你們看看
這件「三聯畫」作品。
03:15
It weighs 24,000 pounds.
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它重達 24,000 磅,
03:18
It's 18 feet long.
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長 18 英尺,
03:20
It's double-sided,
so it's 36 feet of composition.
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它是雙面的,所以總共是 36 英尺。
03:23
It's kind of weird.
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這有點奇怪。
03:26
Well, that's the blood fountain.
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是的,那是一個血的噴泉。
03:29
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:31
To the left, you have
Jesus and the locusts.
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左邊你會看到耶穌和蝗蟲。
03:34
There's a cave
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那裡有一個洞穴,
03:35
where all these animal-headed creatures
travel between two worlds.
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那些有著動物頭的生物
穿梭於兩個世界之間。
03:38
They go from the representational world,
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牠們從具象的世界,
03:40
to this analog-mesh underworld,
where they're hiding.
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穿越到躲藏的模擬地底世界。
03:43
This is where the animal-headed creatures
are by the lighthouse,
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這就是為什麼這些有動物頭的
生物會在燈塔附近,
03:46
and they're all about to commit
mass suicide into the ocean.
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而牠們像是要在大海裡搞集體自殺。
03:49
The ocean is made up
of thousands of elements.
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大海是由成千上萬的元素組成。
03:52
This is a bird god
tied up to a battleship.
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這是被綁在戰艦上的「鳥神」。
03:55
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
03:56
Billy Graham is in the ocean;
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葛培理牧師在這大海裡,
03:57
the Horizon from the oil spill;
Waldo; Osama Bin Laden's shelter --
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漏油事件的地平線、瓦多、
賓拉登的藏匿處等。
如果你認真看大海裡的東西,
04:02
there's all kinds of weird stuff
that you can find
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04:04
if you look really hard, in the ocean.
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就能找到各種奇怪的事物。
04:06
Anyway, this is a lady creature.
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好的,這是一個女性的生物。
04:09
She's coming out of the ocean,
and she's spitting oil into one hand
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她從海洋裡出來,
而她正在往一隻手裡吐油,
04:12
and she has clouds
coming out of her other hand.
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她的另一隻手有雲朵跑出來,
04:15
Her hands are like scales,
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她的手就像天秤一樣,
04:16
and she has the mythological reference
of the Earth and cosmos in balance.
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而她有地球和宇宙之間
平衡的神秘關聯性。
這是「三聯畫」的其中一面,
04:22
So that's one side of "The Triptych."
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04:23
It's a little narrative thing.
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有點像是在敘述事情。
04:25
That's her hand that she's spitting into.
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這是她的手,她正在吐東西到上面。
然後,當你到另一面時,
04:28
And then, when you go to the other side,
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she has like a trunk, like a bird's beak,
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她有著像鳥嘴一樣的東西,
04:32
and she's spitting clouds
out of her trunk.
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而她從尖嘴吐出雲來。
04:34
Then she has an 18-foot-long serpent's
tail that connects "The Triptych."
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然後她有著一個18英尺的蛇尾,
來連接「三聯畫」。
04:38
Anyway, her tail catches on fire
from the back of the volcano.
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總之,她的尾巴在火山的背面著火了。
04:41
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:42
I don't know why that happened.
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我不知道為什麼會發生這種事。
04:44
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:46
That happens, you know.
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但就是會發生的。
04:48
Her tail terminates
in a cycloptic eyeball,
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她的尾巴在一隻眼珠中結束,
04:51
made out of 1986 terrorist cards.
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由1986年的「恐怖份子卡」組成的。
04:54
Have you guys seen those?
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你們有看過嗎?
04:55
They were made in the 1980's,
they're like baseball cards of terrorists.
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他們是在1980年代產物,
像是恐怖分子版的棒球卡。
他們還真的是走在時代的尖端啊。
04:59
Way ahead of their time.
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05:00
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:02
That will bring you to my latest project.
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接下來是我最近的一個創作。
05:04
I'm in the middle of two projects:
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我同時進行兩個計畫:
05:06
One's called "Psychogeographies."
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一個叫「心理地圖」。
05:08
It's about a six-year project
to make 100 of these humans.
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這是一個需時六年的計畫,
要製造100個這樣的人類。
05:11
Each one is an archive of our culture,
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每一個是我們文化的舊事件,
05:13
through our ripped-up media and matter,
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由各種撕碎的媒體和物體拼湊,
05:15
whether it's encyclopedias
or dictionaries or magazines.
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可以是百科全書、字典或者是雜誌。
05:18
But each one acts as a sort of an archive
in the shape of a human,
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但每一個代表了一種過去事件,
以人類樣貌呈現,
05:22
and they travel in groups
of 20, 4, or 12 at a time.
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而它們會一群一群出現,
每次20個,4個或者12個。
05:25
They're like cells --
they come together, they divide.
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它們像是細胞一般,
它們一起被創造、分割。
05:28
And you kind of walk through them.
It's taking me years.
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而你可以從它們之中走過,
這花了我很多年的時間。
05:31
Each one is basically
a 3,000-pound microscope slide
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每一個基本上都是3000磅的顯微鏡片,
05:35
with a human stuck inside.
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裡面存著一個人。
05:38
This one has a little cave in his chest.
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這一個的胸腔裡面有個小小的洞穴。
05:40
That's his head; there's the chest,
you can kind of see the beginning.
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這是他的頭,那是他的胸腔,
你可以感受到如何開始的。
05:43
I'm going to go down the body for you:
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接下來我會向你們介紹其他身體的部分:
05:46
There's a waterfall
coming out of his chest,
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這是一個瀑布,從他的胸腔出來,
05:50
covering his penis -- or not-penis,
or whatever it is,
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遮蓋了老二,
或者不是老二,什麼都行,
05:52
a kind of androgynous thing.
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有點像是雌雄同體的物體。
05:54
I'll take you quickly through these works,
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我會快速地向你們
帶過一遍這些作品,
05:57
because I can't explain them for too long.
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因為我不能解釋太久。
06:00
There are the layers,
you can kind of see it.
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你可以大概看到這裡面有很多層。
06:03
That's a body getting split in half.
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這是一個分裂成兩半的身體。
06:06
This one has two heads,
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這一個有兩個頭,
06:07
and it's communicating
between the two heads.
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好像就在兩個頭之間溝通一樣。
06:10
You can see the pills coming out,
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你可以看到,有些東西吐出來,
06:12
going into one head
from this weird statue.
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從這個奇怪的雕像進入到這一個頭裡面。
06:14
There's a little forest scene
inside the chest cavity.
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這裡有一個小小的樹林在胸腔之間。
06:17
Can you see that?
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你看到了嗎?
06:18
Anyway, this talk's all about these boxes,
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總之,這次的演講都是有關於這些盒子,
06:20
like the boxes we're in.
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就像我們生活在其中的盒子。
06:22
This box we're in,
the solar system is a box.
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太陽系就是個盒子,
而我們就在這裡面。
06:25
This brings you to my latest box.
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這就帶到我最新的盒子。
06:28
It's a brick box.
It's called Pioneer Works.
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這是個磚頭盒子,
叫做「先驅者之作」。
06:30
(Cheers)
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(歡呼)
06:32
Inside of this box is a physicist,
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在這個盒子裡,有個物理學家、
06:36
a neuroscientist, a painter, a musician,
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一個神經學家、畫家、音樂家、
06:39
a writer, a radio station,
a museum, a school,
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一個作家、廣播站、博物館、學校、
06:45
a publishing arm to disseminate all
the content we make there into the world;
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一間向全世界宣傳我們
作品內容的出版公司、
06:50
a garden.
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一個花園。
我們搖動這個盒子,
06:52
We shake this box up,
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06:53
and all these people kind of start
hitting each other like particles.
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而這些人就像顆粒一樣
互相撞擊著對方。
06:56
And I think that's the way
you change the world.
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我想,這就是你可以改變世界的方法。
06:59
You redefine your insides
and the box that you're living in.
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你重新定義自己的內在,
和你生活在其中的那個盒子。
07:03
And you come together to realize
that we're all in this together,
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然後你會意識到我們都在這裡面,
07:06
that this delusion of difference --
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彼此差別的這種錯覺──
07:08
this idea of countries, of borders,
of religion -- doesn't work.
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國家、邊界、宗教差異等──
在盒中全部都不存在。
07:13
We're all really made up
of the same stuff, in the same box.
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我們其實是在同一個盒子裡
由同樣的物件組成。
07:18
And if we don't start
exchanging that stuff sweetly and nicely,
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而如果我們現在不開始好好地、
友好地互相交換這個東西,
07:22
we're all going to die real soon.
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我們很快就會滅亡了。
07:25
Thank you very much.
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謝謝。
07:27
(Applause)
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