Why bother leaving the house? | Ben Saunders

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Thu-Huong Ha
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譯者: Regina Chu 審譯者: Hsin Wei Tseng
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I essentially drag sledges for a living,
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基本上我拉雪橇為生
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so it doesn't take an awful lot to flummox me intellectually,
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所以不需太費心就可以考倒我
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but I'm going to read this question
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但我還是要念出
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from an interview earlier this year:
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今年早些時後的訪談問題
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"Philosophically, does the constant supply of information
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「從哲學角度看,源源不絕的資訊
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steal our ability to imagine
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會不會偷走我們想像的能力
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or replace our dreams of achieving?
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或者取代實現夢想的意願?
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After all, if it is being done somewhere by someone,
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畢竟,如果有人已完成對某處的探險
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and we can participate virtually,
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而且我們能虛擬參與
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then why bother leaving the house?"
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那何必還要離家探險?」
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I'm usually introduced as a polar explorer.
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通常人們介紹我是極地探險家
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I'm not sure that's the most progressive or 21st-century
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我不知道這算不算是最先進、最符合21世紀的
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of job titles, but I've spent more than two percent now
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工作職稱,但我的確已花了超過
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of my entire life living in a tent inside the Arctic Circle,
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百分之二的人生住在北極圈的帳篷裡
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so I get out of the house a fair bit.
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也就是說我常常離家探險
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And in my nature, I guess, I am a doer of things
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而我猜我的本性是比較偏向做事的人
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more than I am a spectator or a contemplator of things,
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而不是一個旁觀者或是沈思者
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and it's that dichotomy, the gulf between ideas and action
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我想要簡單試著解釋、探索的
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that I'm going to try and explore briefly.
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就是這個把想法與行動分開的隔閡 這個二分法
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The pithiest answer to the question "why?"
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過去12年,「為什麼要離家探險」這個問題
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that's been dogging me for the last 12 years
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一直不斷困擾著我 而我能得到的最精闢解答
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was credited certainly to this chap, the rakish-looking gentleman
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絕對要歸功於這個傢伙 這個看起來流裡流氣的紳士
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standing at the back, second from the left,
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站在後排左數第二的那位
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George Lee Mallory. Many of you will know his name.
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喬治·馬洛里(George Mallory) 各位馬上就會知道他是誰
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In 1924 he was last seen disappearing into the clouds
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1924年他最後被人目睹消失在
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near the summit of Mt. Everest.
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靠近聖母峰(珠穆朗瑪峰)峰頂的雲裡
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He may or may not have been the first person to climb Everest,
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很難說他是不是第一個登上聖母峰的人
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more than 30 years before Edmund Hillary.
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比愛德蒙·希拉瑞(史上記錄第一人)攻頂還早30年
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No one knows if he got to the top. It's still a mystery.
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沒有人知道他是否登上山頂。這仍是個謎
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But he was credited with coining the phrase, "Because it's there."
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但他的確是說出「因為山就在那裡」這句名言的人
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Now I'm not actually sure that he did say that.
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我現在也不確定他是否真的說了那句話
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There's very little evidence to suggest it, but what he did say
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幾乎沒有什麼證據能證明,但他確實說過的話
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is actually far nicer,
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比那句其實還更好
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and again, I've printed this. I'm going to read it out.
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所以又來了,我把它印下來了,所以我要把它念出來
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"The first question which you will ask
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「你會問的第一個問題
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and which I must try to answer is this:
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而我一定要試著回答的,是這個:
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What is the use of climbing Mt. Everest?
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登上聖母峰有什麼好處?
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And my answer must at once be, it is no use.
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而我當下的回答則是,沒有任何好處
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There is not the slightest prospect of any gain whatsoever.
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這件事沒有任何一點得到好處的展望
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Oh, we may learn a little about the behavior
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噢,我們可能會對人體在那樣的高度
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of the human body at high altitudes,
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有什麼反應多一點點瞭解
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and possibly medical men may turn our observation
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也有可能醫療人員會把我們的觀察
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to some account for the purposes of aviation,
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轉成對航空有實際價值的東西
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but otherwise nothing will come of it.
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但在其他方面一點用處也沒有
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We shall not bring back a single bit of gold or silver,
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我們不會帶一丁點兒的金或銀回來
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and not a gem, nor any coal or iron.
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也不會帶回任何寶石、煤礦或鐵礦
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We shall not find a single foot of earth that can be planted
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我們也不會找到任何一吋土地
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with crops to raise food. So it is no use.
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能種作物以增加糧食。所以這沒有任何好處
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If you cannot understand that there is something in man
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如果你不能明白人的內心有某種東西
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which responds to the challenge of this mountain
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會回應這座山的挑戰
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and goes out to meet it, that the struggle
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並且走出去面對它,而這種奮鬥
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is the struggle of life itself upward and forever upward,
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是促使生命永遠不斷向上的奮鬥
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then you won't see why we go.
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那麼你不會明白為什麼我們要去
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What we get from this adventure is just sheer joy,
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我們從這個冒險所能得到的僅是純粹的喜悅
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and joy, after all, is the end of life.
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而喜悅終究是生命的最終目的
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We don't live to eat and make money.
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我們不是為了吃喝及賺錢活著
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We eat and make money to be able to enjoy life.
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我們吃喝及賺錢是為了享受生命
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That is what life means, and that is what life is for."
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那是生命的意義,也是生命的目的。」
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Mallory's argument that leaving the house,
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馬洛里對離家探險的論點是
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embarking on these grand adventures is joyful and fun,
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從事這些偉大的冒險既喜悅又有趣
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however, doesn't tally that neatly with my own experience.
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但是,這並不完全符合我自己的經驗
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The furthest I've ever got away from my front door
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我離家到過最遠的地方
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was in the spring of 2004. I still don't know exactly
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發生在2004年春天。我仍然不明瞭
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what came over me, but my plan was to make
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是什麼原因讓我這麼做,但我的計劃是要
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a solo and unsupported crossing of the Arctic Ocean.
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獨自且不受支援地跨越北冰洋
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I planned essentially to walk from the north coast of Russia
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基本上我計劃要徒步從俄羅斯的北海岸
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to the North Pole, and then to carry on to the north coast of Canada.
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走到北極,然後繼續往加拿大北海岸過去
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No one had ever done this. I was 26 at the time.
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從來沒人做過這個。我那時26歲
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A lot of experts were saying it was impossible,
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許多專家都說這是不可能的
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and my mum certainly wasn't very keen on the idea.
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我媽媽當然對這個想法一點也不熱衷
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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The journey from a small weather station on the north coast
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這段從西伯利亞北海岸小氣象站
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of Siberia up to my final starting point,
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到我最後的出發點的旅程
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the edge of the pack ice, the coast of the Arctic Ocean,
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也就是浮冰的邊緣,北冰洋的海岸
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took about five hours, and if anyone watched fearless
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花了我大約五小時。如果有人看過不怕死的
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Felix Baumgartner going up, rather than just coming down,
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菲利克斯·保加拿(高空跳傘專家) 向高空飛升而不是向下跳
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you'll appreciate the sense of apprehension,
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你就能領悟當我坐在直升機上,向北呼嘯而去時
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as I sat in a helicopter thundering north,
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那種憂慮的感覺
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and the sense, I think if anything, of impending doom.
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如果我還能想出什麼好形容,那就是末日臨頭的感覺
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I sat there wondering what on Earth I had gotten myself into.
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我坐在那想著,我到底在搞什麼
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There was a bit of fun, a bit of joy.
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的確是有一點好玩,是有一點快樂
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I was 26. I remember sitting there
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我26歲。我記得我坐在那裡
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looking down at my sledge. I had my skis ready to go,
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低頭看著我的雪橇。我已經準備好了滑雪板
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I had a satellite phone, a pump-action shotgun
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我有一只衛星電話,一把滑桿式散彈槍
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in case I was attacked by a polar bear.
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以防萬一我被北極熊攻擊
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I remember looking out of the window and seeing the second helicopter.
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我還記得從窗戶往外看著第二架直升機
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We were both thundering through this incredible Siberian dawn,
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我們兩架轟隆隆地飛過 這奇妙無比的西伯利亞黎明
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and part of me felt a bit like a cross between Jason Bourne
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我覺得自己有個部分好像 神鬼認證的傑森·包恩
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and Wilfred Thesiger. Part of me
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及英國探險家威福瑞·塞西格的合體
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felt quite proud of myself, but mostly I was just utterly terrified.
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是有一點覺得自傲,但其實我是怕得不得了
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And that journey lasted 10 weeks, 72 days.
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那段旅程歷時10週,72天
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I didn't see anyone else. We took this photo next to the helicopter.
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之間我沒有看過任何人。我們在直升機旁照了這張相片
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Beyond that, I didn't see anyone for 10 weeks.
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除此之外,這10週我沒看到任何人
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The North Pole is slap bang in the middle of the sea,
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北極就坐落在海洋中間
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so I'm traveling over the frozen surface of the Arctic Ocean.
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所以我走在表層冰凍的北冰洋上
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NASA described conditions that year as the worst since records began.
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美國國家航空暨太空總署形容 那年的天候是有史以來最糟
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I was dragging 180 kilos of food and fuel and supplies,
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我拖著180公斤的食物、燃油及補給品
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about 400 pounds. The average temperature for the 10 weeks
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大約是400磅。那十週的平均溫度
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was minus 35. Minus 50 was the coldest.
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是零下35度,最冷的時候是零下50度
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So again, there wasn't an awful lot of joy or fun to be had.
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所以再說一次,這真的沒甚麼喜悅,也不怎麼好玩
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One of the magical things about this journey, however,
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但在這旅程中最令人驚奇的
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is that because I'm walking over the sea,
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就是因為我是走在海上
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over this floating, drifting, shifting crust of ice
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走在漂搖不定、處處移動的大冰塊上
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that's floating on top of the Arctic Ocean is
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漂浮在北冰洋面上的冰
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it's an environment that's in a constant state of flux.
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是不穩定狀態的環境
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The ice is always moving, breaking up, drifting around,
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冰塊永遠在移動、破裂、四處漂流
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refreezing, so the scenery that I saw for nearly 3 months
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再結凍,所以我在這近3個月所看到的景象
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was unique to me. No one else will ever, could ever,
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對我是非常特別的。再沒有人
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possibly see the views, the vistas, that I saw for 10 weeks.
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能有機會看到我在這10週內看到的風景、景色
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And that, I guess, is probably the finest argument for leaving the house.
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而我猜這可能是離家探險最有力的論點
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I can try to tell you what it was like,
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我可以試著描述它像什麼
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but you'll never know what it was like,
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但你永遠不會真正明白那到底是什麼樣子
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and the more I try to explain that I felt lonely,
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而且我愈試著解釋當時的孤獨
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I was the only human being in 5.4 million square-miles,
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540萬平方英哩只有我一個人
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it was cold, nearly minus 75 with windchill on a bad day,
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真的好冷,很慘的日子裡風寒指數是零下75度
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the more words fall short, and I'm unable to do it justice.
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就愈發現再多的言語也不能形容, 而我也不知道該如何說的明白
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And it seems to me, therefore, that the doing,
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因此我是這樣看的,身體力行
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you know, to try to experience, to engage, to endeavor,
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你知道的,去試著體驗、參與冒險
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rather than to watch and to wonder, that's where
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而不只是旁觀及猜想,才是
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the real meat of life is to be found,
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找到生命的重點的方法
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the juice that we can suck out of our hours and days.
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從漫漫人生中榨出的精華
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And I would add a cautionary note here, however.
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不過我還是要在這裡加上幾點注意事項
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In my experience, there is something addictive
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依我的經驗,去嘗試人力所能及的極限
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about tasting life at the very edge of what's humanly possible.
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存在着一些非常容易上癮的東西
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Now I don't just mean in the field of
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我不單指那種愛德華時代風
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daft macho Edwardian style derring-do,
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充滿男子氣概又有點蠢的非凡大冒險
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but also in the fields of pancreatic cancer,
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同時也指像是得了胰腺癌那樣
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there is something addictive about this, and in my case,
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這裡面的確有些東西會使人上癮,以我為例
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I think polar expeditions are perhaps not that far removed
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我認為極地探險跟毒癮
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from having a crack habit.
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也相差不遠
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I can't explain quite how good it is until you've tried it,
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我無法解釋這有多美好,直到你親自嘗試
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but it has the capacity to burn up all the money I can get my hands on,
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而它也有辦法燒掉你手上所有的錢
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to ruin every relationship I've ever had,
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破壞你所有的人際關係
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so be careful what you wish for.
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所以許願要小心
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Mallory postulated that there is something in man
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馬洛里認為在人的內心
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that responds to the challenge of the mountain,
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有些東西會回應山峰發出的挑戰
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and I wonder if that's the case whether there's something
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而我不知道是否真的有東西在
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in the challenge itself, in the endeavor, and particularly
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挑戰本身裡、在冒險裡呼喚著我們,特別是在那些
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in the big, unfinished, chunky challenges that face humanity
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很大、尚未完成、非常困難,迫使我們面對人性的挑戰裡。
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that call out to us, and in my experience that's certainly the case.
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而以我的經驗那的確是如此
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There is one unfinished challenge
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我有一件尚未完成的挑戰
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that's been calling out to me for most of my adult life.
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在我大部份的成人歲月裡呼喚著我
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Many of you will know the story.
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在座各位很快會知道這個故事
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This is a photo of Captain Scott and his team.
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這是英國極地探險家斯科特隊長及其隊員的照片
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Scott set out just over a hundred years ago to try
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斯科特在一百多年前出發,嘗試
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to become the first person to reach the South Pole.
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要成為第一個抵達南極的人
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No one knew what was there. It was utterly unmapped
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沒有人知道那裡有什麼。那時地圖上完全
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at the time. We knew more about the surface of the moon
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沒有這個點。我們對月球表面的瞭解
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than we did about the heart of Antarctica.
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多過我們對南極洲的瞭解
07:39
Scott, as many of you will know, was beaten to it
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很多人都知道,斯科特其實是被
07:42
by Roald Amundsen and his Norwegian team,
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挪威人羅爾德·亞孟及其團隊打敗
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who used dogs and dogsleds. Scott's team were on foot,
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亞孟一行人使用雪橇犬及狗用雪橇 斯科特的團隊採用步行
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all five of them wearing harnesses and dragging around sledges,
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這五人隊伍全副武裝以人力拉雪橇
07:49
and they arrived at the pole to find the Norwegian flag already there,
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當他們到達南極時,發現挪威旗已經插在那兒
07:53
I'd imagine pretty bitter and demoralized.
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我可以想像那種苦澀與沮喪
07:56
All five of them turned and started walking back to the coast
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這五人團隊於是回頭開始走回海岸營地
07:59
and all five died on that return journey.
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而這五人在回程中全部喪生
08:02
There is a sort of misconception nowadays that
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現今人們有種誤解,就是
08:05
it's all been done in the fields of exploration and adventure.
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在探索及冒險這個領域,該做的都做完了
08:08
When I talk about Antarctica, people often say,
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當我講起南極洲,大家都說
08:09
"Hasn't, you know, that's interesting,
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「你知道,是很有趣,但是
08:11
hasn't that Blue Peter presenter just done it on a bike?"
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那個藍色彼得(英國兒童節目)主持人 不是已經騎單車完成了嗎?」
08:14
Or, "That's nice. You know, my grandmother's going
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或說「很好,很好,你知道我祖母明年
08:18
on a cruise to Antarctica next year. You know.
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要搭郵輪去南極,你知道的。
08:20
Is there a chance you'll see her there?"
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你有機會在那邊見見她嗎?」
08:23
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:25
But Scott's journey remains unfinished.
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但斯科特的旅程依然未完成
08:28
No one has ever walked from the very coast of Antarctica
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沒有人真正全程走完從南極洲海岸
08:30
to the South Pole and back again.
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到南極再返回的路程
08:32
It is, arguably, the most audacious endeavor
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這真可說是,最具愛德華時代
08:35
of that Edwardian golden age of exploration,
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探險金色年華風格的大膽奮進冒險
08:38
and it seemed to me high time, given everything
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對我而言這也是最佳時期,想想
08:40
we have figured out in the century since
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在過去這個世紀我們已經搞懂的一切
08:42
from scurvy to solar panels, that it was high time
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從壞血病治療到太陽能板。的確時機已經成熟
08:46
someone had a go at finishing the job.
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該是有人去完成這項工作的時候
08:47
So that's precisely what I'm setting out to do.
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所以這就是我要出發去做的事
08:50
This time next year, in October, I'm leading a team of three.
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明年這個時候,十月份,我要帶一個三人團隊
08:53
It will take us about four months to make this return journey.
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我們這會花大約四個月的時間來完成這項旅程
08:56
That's the scale. The red line is obviously halfway to the pole.
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那是探險圖。紅色線很明顯就是到南極的半程
08:59
We have to turn around and come back again.
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我們到達後必須回轉再返回出發地
09:00
I'm well aware of the irony of telling you that we will be
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我很瞭解,說我們會寫部落格及推文
09:02
blogging and tweeting. You'll be able to live
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聽起來非常諷刺。你們可以
09:05
vicariously and virtually through this journey
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用前所未有的方式間接、虛擬
09:07
in a way that no one has ever before.
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參與這次冒險旅程
09:10
And it'll also be a four-month chance for me to finally
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這也給我四個月的機會,能敲定
09:13
come up with a pithy answer to the question, "Why?"
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一個精闢的答案來回答那個「為什麼」
09:17
And our lives today are safer and more comfortable
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我們今日的生活比起以前
09:22
than they have ever been. There certainly isn't much call
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更安全更舒適。已經沒有太多地方
09:24
for explorers nowadays. My career advisor at school
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呼喚我們去探險了。我學校裡的職業顧問
09:28
never mentioned it as an option.
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從來也沒提過這個選擇
09:31
If I wanted to know, for example,
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假使我想知道,舉個例子
09:33
how many stars were in the Milky Way,
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在銀河裡有多少星星
09:36
how old those giant heads on Easter Island were,
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復活節島上的巨石像有多古老
09:38
most of you could find that out right now
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在座的多數可以現在就找到答案
09:40
without even standing up.
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甚至不用站起來
09:43
And yet, if I've learned anything in nearly 12 years now
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但是,如果說我在過去12年裡
09:46
of dragging heavy things around cold places,
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從在寒冷的地方拉重物學到了什麼
09:49
it is that true, real inspiration and growth
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那就是又真又活的啟示及成長
09:53
only comes from adversity and from challenge,
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只能從逆境及挑戰中獲得
09:57
from stepping away from what's comfortable and familiar
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要離開自己舒適又熟悉的空間
10:00
and stepping out into the unknown.
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進入未知的領域才能獲得
10:03
In life, we all have tempests to ride and poles to walk to,
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我們的生命裡都有必須克服的風暴及要到達的目標
10:06
and I think metaphorically speaking, at least,
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而我想,象徵性地說,至少
10:08
we could all benefit from getting outside the house
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我們大家都能從多一點的離家冒險得到好處
10:11
a little more often, if only we could summon up the courage.
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只要我們能鼓起一點勇氣
10:15
I certainly would implore you to open the door just a little bit
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我當然會懇請各位把大門打開一點點
10:18
and take a look at what's outside.
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看看外面的世界有什麼
10:21
Thank you very much.
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謝謝
10:22
(Applause)
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