The clues to a great story | Andrew Stanton | TED

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翻译人员: Ricki Xie 校对人员: Yuguo Zhang
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A tourist is backpacking
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一个背包客徒步
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through the highlands of Scotland,
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穿过苏格兰高地
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and he stops at a pub to get a drink.
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他进了一个酒馆准备喝一杯
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And the only people in there is a bartender
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酒馆里面只有一位侍者
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and an old man nursing a beer.
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和一个揣着啤酒暗自神伤的老人
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And he orders a pint, and they sit in silence for a while.
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他要了一品托酒,然后和大家各自安静喝着酒
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And suddenly the old man turns to him and goes,
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突然,老人朝着他走过来
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"You see this bar?
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“看见这间酒吧了没有?
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I built this bar with my bare hands
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我就凭着这双手,用郡里
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from the finest wood in the county.
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最好的木材建造了它
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Gave it more love and care than my own child.
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对它的关爱甚至超过了对自己的孩子
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But do they call me MacGregor the bar builder? No."
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但是他们称我酒吧建筑师麦格雷戈了吗?并没有。”
00:41
Points out the window.
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又指着窗户说
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"You see that stone wall out there?
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“你看见那边的石头墙了吗?
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I built that stone wall with my bare hands.
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我就凭这双手砌了这面墙
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Found every stone, placed them just so through the rain and the cold.
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亲手挑选每一块石头,不论下雨还是严寒把它们堆砌起来
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But do they call me MacGregor the stone wall builder? No."
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但是他们称我为石墙建筑师麦格雷戈了吗?也没有。”
00:54
Points out the window.
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指着另一边的窗口
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"You see that pier on the lake out there?
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“你看见那边湖上的码头了吗?
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I built that pier with my bare hands.
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我就凭这双手造了那个码头
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Drove the pilings against the tide of the sand, plank by plank.
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一块一块载着木桩,划过沙地,风雨无阻
01:04
But do they call me MacGregor the pier builder? No.
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他们称我码头建筑师麦格雷戈了吗?没有。
01:08
But you fuck one goat ... "
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但倘若你上了一头山羊…”(即goatfucker,美国俚语,指一个尽管做了很多好事,但由于一件坏事得到了坏名声的人.)
01:11
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:22
Storytelling --
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讲故事-
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:26
is joke telling.
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就像讲笑话
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It's knowing your punchline,
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要明确点睛之笔
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your ending,
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也就是结局
01:33
knowing that everything you're saying, from the first sentence to the last,
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要明确,你所说的一切,从第一句到最后一句
01:36
is leading to a singular goal,
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都引导着一个唯一的目标
01:38
and ideally confirming some truth
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同时完美证实一些事实
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that deepens our understandings
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即加深我们对于
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of who we are as human beings.
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我们为何而存在
01:46
We all love stories.
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我们都爱故事
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We're born for them.
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与生俱来
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Stories affirm who we are.
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故事决定了我们是谁
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We all want affirmations that our lives have meaning.
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我们都想得到那样的肯定,即我们的生命是有意义的
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And nothing does a greater affirmation
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当我们通过故事联系到一起的时候
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than when we connect through stories.
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没什么比这个更好了
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It can cross the barriers of time,
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它可以跨越时间的障碍
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past, present and future,
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过去,现在和未来
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and allow us to experience
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允许我们去体验
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the similarities between ourselves
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我们自己和其他人,真实与虚幻之间
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and through others, real and imagined.
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的各种相似点
02:09
The children's television host Mr. Rogers
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儿童电视节目主持人罗杰斯先生
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always carried in his wallet
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总是在他的皮夹中放着
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a quote from a social worker
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一位社会工作者的箴言
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that said, "Frankly, there isn't anyone you couldn't learn to love
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“坦白的说,任何人都值得去爱,
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once you've heard their story."
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一旦你听过了他们的故事”
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And the way I like to interpret that
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就我自己更想表达的方式
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is probably the greatest story commandment,
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这也许是最有力的讲故事的诫言
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which is "Make me care" --
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“让我在乎”——
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please, emotionally,
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从情感上
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intellectually, aesthetically,
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理性上,美学的角度上
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just make me care.
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令我牵挂
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We all know what it's like to not care.
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我们都清楚,什么是毫不在乎
02:40
You've gone through hundreds of TV channels,
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你看过数以百计的电视节目
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just switching channel after channel,
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在台与台之间不停切换着
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and then suddenly you actually stop on one.
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突然你会停在某个台上
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It's already halfway over,
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它已经播到了一半
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but something's caught you and you're drawn in and you care.
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即便如此,你被某些东西吸引住了,而且你在乎这东西
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That's not by chance,
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这并不是偶然的
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that's by design.
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而是设计好的
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So it got me thinking, what if I told you my history was story,
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于是,这就让我思考,如果我告诉你我的人生是个故事
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how I was born for it,
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我是如何为其而生的
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how I learned along the way this subject matter?
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我是如何沿着这个主题的方式学习的
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And to make it more interesting,
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然后让它变得更有趣的
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we'll start from the ending
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我们从结尾讲起
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and we'll go to the beginning.
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然后回溯到开始
03:11
And so if I were going to give you the ending of this story,
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如果我把故事的结尾告诉你
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it would go something like this:
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就会出现这样的情况:
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And that's what ultimately led me
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“这东西就是基本上启发我
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to speaking to you here at TED
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今天在TED上给你们讲的
03:20
about story.
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关于故事的演讲。”
03:23
And the most current story lesson that I've had
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我最近的一个关于讲故事的课程
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was completing the film I've just done
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是关于一部我刚在2012年
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this year in 2012.
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完成的电影
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The film is "John Carter." It's based on a book called "The Princess of Mars,"
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叫做“异星战场:约翰·卡特传奇”,改编自“火星公主”这本书
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which was written by Edgar Rice Burroughs.
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其作者是埃德加·赖斯·巴勒斯
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And Edgar Rice Burroughs actually put himself
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同时埃德加·赖斯·巴勒斯自己
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as a character inside this movie, and as the narrator.
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也参与到了这部电影中,出任旁白
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And he's summoned by his rich uncle, John Carter, to his mansion
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他收到他富有的叔叔约翰·卡特的电报,要他马上到
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with a telegram saying, "See me at once."
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他的豪宅里会面,电报写着 “欲见从速”
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But once he gets there,
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当他到了那里
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he's found out that his uncle has mysteriously passed away
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却发现他的叔叔却离奇死亡了
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and been entombed in a mausoleum on the property.
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而且已经被埋葬在墓地里
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(Video) Butler: You won't find a keyhole.
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(视频)巴特勒:你不可能找到钥匙孔
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Thing only opens from the inside.
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这东西只能从里面打开
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He insisted,
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他坚持
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no embalming, no open coffin,
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没有防腐剂,没有打开的棺材
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no funeral.
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没有葬礼
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You don't acquire the kind of wealth your uncle commanded
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我们其他人就是无法理解
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by being like the rest of us, huh?
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你叔叔有着这般财富的人的想法,是吧
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Come, let's go inside.
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好了,我们回去吧
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AS: What this scene is doing, and it did in the book,
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这个场景在做的,也就是书里已经告诉我们的
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is it's fundamentally making a promise.
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这实际上是在许下一个承诺
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It's making a promise to you
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向大家作出承诺
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that this story will lead somewhere that's worth your time.
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这个故事的走向将对得起您的时间
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And that's what all good stories should do at the beginning, is they should give you a promise.
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同时这是所有好的故事都应该在最开始做的,他们应该给观众们一个承诺
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You could do it an infinite amount of ways.
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应该用各种方式完成这个承诺
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Sometimes it's as simple as "Once upon a time ... "
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有的时候,也就是“从前有一个…”这么简单
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These Carter books always had Edgar Rice Burroughs as a narrator in it.
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这些关于主人公卡特的书总是有作者巴勒斯的旁白
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And I always thought it was such a fantastic device.
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我一向认为这是一个极其巧妙的技巧
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It's like a guy inviting you around the campfire,
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这就好像有人邀请你到篝火旁
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or somebody in a bar saying, "Here, let me tell you a story.
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或者某个酒吧里的人对你说,“来,让我给你讲个故事
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It didn't happen to me, it happened to somebody else,
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这不是我的亲身经历,但真实的发生在别人的身上
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but it's going to be worth your time."
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而且绝不浪费你的时间”
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A well told promise
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一个完美的口述许诺
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is like a pebble being pulled back in a slingshot
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就好像弹弓的上的鹅卵石弹出的曲线
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and propels you forward through the story
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不断地激起你的兴趣
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to the end.
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由始至终
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In 2008,
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在2008年,
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I pushed all the theories that I had on story at the time
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我把所有在当时我知道的关于故事的理论和理解
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to the limits of my understanding on this project.
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发挥到了极限并运用到了这个项目上
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(Video) (Mechanical Sounds)
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(视频)机械的声音
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♫ And that is all ♫
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♫ 这就是 ♫
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♫ that love's about ♫
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♫ 爱情的诠释 ♫
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♫ And we'll recall ♫
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♫我们将会回忆起 ♫
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♫ when time runs out ♫
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♫ 在年华逝去时♫
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♫ That it only ♫
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♫ 这是唯一的 ♫
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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AS: Storytelling without dialogue.
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没有对话的叙事
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It's the purest form of cinematic storytelling.
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是电影中最单纯的讲故事的方式
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It's the most inclusive approach you can take.
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是你能采取的最包容的方式
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It confirmed something I really had a hunch on,
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它证明了某个我非常在乎的直觉
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is that the audience
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那就是观众们
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actually wants to work for their meal.
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其实更喜欢自己烹饪他们的饕餮盛宴
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They just don't want to know that they're doing that.
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只不过他们不想知道自己亲自动手了
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That's your job as a storyteller,
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这就是讲故事的人的任务
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is to hide the fact
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隐瞒这些事实
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that you're making them work for their meal.
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你实际上在让他们亲自为他们的盛宴下厨
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We're born problem solvers.
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我们生来就是个问题解决者
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We're compelled to deduce
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我们总忍不住反复去推想
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and to deduct,
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去演绎
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because that's what we do in real life.
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因为这就是我们在现实生活中所做的事情
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It's this well-organized absence of information
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正是这个设计好的信息缺漏
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that draws us in.
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吸引了我们的注意力
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There's a reason that we're all attracted to an infant or a puppy.
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这就是为什么我们总是被婴儿或者小狗吸引住
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It's not just that they're damn cute;
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不是因为他们太可爱
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it's because they can't completely express
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而是因为他们完全无法表达
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what they're thinking and what their intentions are.
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自己在想什么和他们的目的是什么
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And it's like a magnet.
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像吸铁石一样吸引我们
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We can't stop ourselves
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我们无法克制自己
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from wanting to complete the sentence and fill it in.
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去想方设法的把这些空白填满
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I first started
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我第一次开始
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really understanding this storytelling device
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确切的理解这个讲故事的技巧
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when I was writing with Bob Peterson on "Finding Nemo."
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是我在和鲍勃·彼德森一起写“海底总动员”的时候
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And we would call this the unifying theory of two plus two.
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我们称之为“2+2的统一定理”
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Make the audience put things together.
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让观众自己把东西拼起来
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Don't give them four,
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不要给他们一个4
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give them two plus two.
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而给他们2+2
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The elements you provide and the order you place them in
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你们提供的元素和其排列顺序
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is crucial to whether you succeed or fail at engaging the audience.
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对决定你是否成功的与观众互动是至关重要的
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Editors and screenwriters have known this all along.
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编辑和剧作家都默契的知道
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It's the invisible application
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正是这无形中的运用
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that holds our attention to story.
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牢牢抓住了我们的对故事的注意力
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I don't mean to make it sound
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我的意思不是把它实施得很确切
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like this is an actual exact science, it's not.
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好像门精确的科学研究一样,不是的。
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That's what's so special about stories,
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这就是为什么故事是如此的独特
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they're not a widget, they aren't exact.
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他们不是零固件,他们不要求精密准确。
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Stories are inevitable, if they're good,
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故事总是存在的,如果他们很赞
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but they're not predictable.
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但不见得可以预知
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I took a seminar in this year
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我今年曾上过一个研讨会
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with an acting teacher named Judith Weston.
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和一个叫朱迪·韦斯顿的表演课老师
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And I learned a key insight to character.
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从中我学到了一个关于人物角色的关键点
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She believed that all well-drawn characters
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她相信所有的成功的的人物角色描写
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have a spine.
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都有一个支撑骨
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And the idea is that the character has an inner motor,
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这个想法是说每个人物都有一个内驱动力
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a dominant, unconscious goal that they're striving for,
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有一个不断追逐的占主导位置却无法察觉的目标
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an itch that they can't scratch.
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和一个怎么也抓不到的痒处
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She gave a wonderful example of Michael Corleone,
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她给我们举了一个关于迈克·柯里昂
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Al Pacino's character in "The Godfather,"
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阿尔·帕西诺在“教父”里的角色
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and that probably his spine
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他的支撑骨大概就是
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was to please his father.
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取悦自己的父亲
08:27
And it's something that always drove all his choices.
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这也是驱使他做出各种决定的原因
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Even after his father died,
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即时在他的父亲去世以后
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he was still trying to scratch that itch.
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他仍然想要挠到那块心痒点
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I took to this like a duck to water.
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这对我来说如鱼得水
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Wall-E's was to find the beauty.
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Wall-E想要找到它心目中的美
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Marlin's, the father in "Finding Nemo,"
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马林,海底总动员里的父亲
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was to prevent harm.
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想要保护自己的儿子
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And Woody's was to do what was best for his child.
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(玩具总动员)胡迪则是做对它的孩子正确的事情
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And these spines don't always drive you to make the best choices.
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这些支撑骨并不总带领你做出最正确的选择
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Sometimes you can make some horrible choices with them.
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有时候你可能会犯下严重的错误
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I'm really blessed to be a parent,
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我很幸运能作为一个父母
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and watching my children grow, I really firmly believe
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看着自己的孩子成长,我也很坚信
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that you're born with a temperament and you're wired a certain way,
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每个人都有某种与生俱来的气质和某些特定的行为
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and you don't have any say about it,
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你也说不出为什么会这样
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and there's no changing it.
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你也无法改变它
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All you can do is learn to recognize it
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我们需要做的就是发现它
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and own it.
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并拥有它
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And some of us are born with temperaments that are positive,
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有的人的个性天生是积极地
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some are negative.
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有的人是消极的
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But a major threshold is passed
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一旦跨过了这主要的坎
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when you mature enough
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当你足够成熟的时候
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to acknowledge what drives you
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能够意识到是什么在驱使你的时候
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and to take the wheel and steer it.
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应该抓过方向盘,勇敢前进
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As parents, you're always learning who your children are.
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作为父母,你总在不断认知你的孩子是怎么样的
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They're learning who they are.
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他们自己的也在认识自己
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And you're still learning who you are.
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而你自己也在仍在不断地了解你自己
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So we're all learning all the time.
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所以我们总是在不断地在学习和了解的过程中的
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And that's why change is fundamental in story.
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这也是为什么变化是故事的基本
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If things go static, stories die,
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如果东西变得静止了,故事也就结束了
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because life is never static.
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因为人生永远是动态而变化的
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In 1998,
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1998年的时候
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I had finished writing "Toy Story" and "A Bug's Life"
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我刚写完“玩具总动员”和“虫虫危机”
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and I was completely hooked on screenwriting.
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我被剧本创作深深地吸引住了
09:52
So I wanted to become much better at it and learn anything I could.
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我想要成为更好,去学习任何我能获得的东西
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So I researched everything I possibly could.
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所以我翻遍了所有我能找到的资料
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And I finally came across this fantastic quote
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直到有一天我遇到这个精彩的句子
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by a British playwright, William Archer:
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来自一位英国剧作家,威廉·阿彻
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"Drama is anticipation
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“戏剧是夹杂着不确定性
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mingled with uncertainty."
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的期待
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It's an incredibly insightful definition.
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这是一个非常有深度的解释
10:10
When you're telling a story,
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当你在讲故事的时候
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have you constructed anticipation?
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你有想过制造悬念么
10:14
In the short-term, have you made me want to know
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你有想过让我在短时间里就想要知道
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what will happen next?
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接下来什么会发生么
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But more importantly,
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更重要的的是
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have you made me want to know
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即便在一段时间后,你有让我想要
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how it will all conclude in the long-term?
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猜测整个结局会是什么的冲动么
10:24
Have you constructed honest conflicts
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你有将矛盾冲突和事实结合
10:26
with truth that creates doubt
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制造出重重疑团
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in what the outcome might be?
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甚至影响最后的结果么
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An example would be in "Finding Nemo,"
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举一个在“海底总动员”里的例子
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in the short tension, you were always worried,
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在一段时间内,你总在担心
10:34
would Dory's short-term memory
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多瑞的短时间记忆
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make her forget whatever she was being told by Marlin.
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会不会让她忘记马文要她做的事情
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But under that was this global tension
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但整个故事的悬念就是
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of will we ever find Nemo
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我们到底能不能找到尼莫
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in this huge, vast ocean?
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在这个一望无际的大海里
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In our earliest days at Pixar,
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早期在皮克斯
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before we truly understood the invisible workings of story,
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在我们真正了解到什么是故事的精髓之前
10:49
we were simply a group of guys just going on our gut, going on our instincts.
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我们就是一群做事只会凭胆子、凭直觉的家伙
10:52
And it's interesting to see
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这倒也挺有趣
10:54
how that led us places
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它给我们带来的东西
10:56
that were actually pretty good.
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其实还挺不错的
10:58
You've got to remember that in this time of year,
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不得不提在那时候
11:01
1993,
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1993年
11:03
what was considered a successful animated picture
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正是动画的鼎盛时期
11:06
was "The Little Mermaid," "Beauty and the Beast,"
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比如“小美人鱼”,“美女与野兽”
11:09
"Aladdin," "Lion King."
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“阿拉丁”,“狮子王”
11:11
So when we pitched "Toy Story" to Tom Hanks for the first time,
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所以当我们挑选汤姆·汉克斯为“玩具总动员”配音的时候
11:14
he walked in and he said,
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他走进来然后说
11:16
"You don't want me to sing, do you?"
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“你该不会是想要我唱歌吧,是吗”
11:18
And I thought that epitomized perfectly
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我想这简短的说明了
11:20
what everybody thought animation had to be at the time.
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那时候的大家认为动画都是怎样的
11:23
But we really wanted to prove
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但我们那时候想要证明
11:25
that you could tell stories completely different in animation.
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在动画里,你可以用完全不同的方式来讲故事
11:28
We didn't have any influence then,
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当时候我们没什么影响力
11:30
so we had a little secret list of rules
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所以我们有一份自己的
11:32
that we kept to ourselves.
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神秘的小规则
11:34
And they were: No songs,
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它们有:不唱歌
11:37
no "I want" moment,
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没有“我想要”片段
11:39
no happy village,
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没有快乐的小镇
11:41
no love story.
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没有爱情故事
11:43
And the irony is that, in the first year,
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最有讽刺意义的是,在我们的第一年
11:45
our story was not working at all
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我们的故事没有任何进展
11:47
and Disney was panicking.
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迪士尼就开始慌虑了
11:49
So they privately got advice
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私下里他们从一个著名的词作家
11:52
from a famous lyricist, who I won't name,
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得到了些建议,名字我就不在这里提了
11:54
and he faxed them some suggestions.
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他给迪士尼传真了一些建议
11:56
And we got a hold of that fax.
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当我们拿到那张纸的时候
11:58
And the fax said,
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上面写着
12:00
there should be songs,
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应该要有唱歌
12:02
there should be an "I want" song,
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应该要有个“我想要”的歌曲
12:04
there should be a happy village song,
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要有个关于快乐小镇的歌曲
12:06
there should be a love story
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还得有个爱情故事
12:08
and there should be a villain.
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和一个反派角色
12:10
And thank goodness
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幸好,当时的我们
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we were just too young, rebellious and contrarian at the time.
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年轻气旺、叛逆、与众不同
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That just gave us more determination
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这些让我们更加决心
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to prove that you could build a better story.
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去证明我们可以编出更好的故事
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And a year after that, we did conquer it.
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一年以后,我们做到了
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And it just went to prove
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这也证明了
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that storytelling has guidelines,
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讲故事是有指导方法的
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not hard, fast rules.
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不难但也不见效快的规则
12:28
Another fundamental thing we learned
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我们学到的另一个重要的东西
12:30
was about liking your main character.
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就是学会喜欢你的人物特点
12:32
And we had naively thought,
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我们总天真的以为
12:34
well Woody in "Toy Story" has to become selfless at the end,
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“玩具总动员”里的胡迪至始至终都要是个自私的角色
12:36
so you've got to start from someplace.
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所以你得从某个点开始来展示
12:38
So let's make him selfish. And this is what you get.
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于是我们做出了这个
12:41
(Voice Over) Woody: What do you think you're doing?
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(配音)胡迪:你这是在干什么?
12:43
Off the bed.
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离开这个床
12:45
Hey, off the bed!
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嘿,下去!
12:47
Mr. Potato Head: You going to make us, Woody?
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蛋头先生:你想要惹我们吗,胡迪?
12:49
Woody: No, he is.
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胡迪:不,他才是。
12:51
Slinky? Slink ... Slinky!
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弹簧狗?弹……簧狗!
12:55
Get up here and do your job.
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快上来把事做好
12:57
Are you deaf?
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你耳聋了吗?
12:59
I said, take care of them.
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我说,注意好他们。
13:01
Slinky: I'm sorry, Woody,
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弹簧狗:我很抱歉,胡迪。
13:03
but I have to agree with them.
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但我同意他们意见
13:05
I don't think what you did was right.
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我不认为你所做的是正确的
13:07
Woody: What? Am I hearing correctly?
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胡迪:什么?我没有听错吧?
13:10
You don't think I was right?
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你不认为我是正确的?
13:12
Who said your job was to think, Spring Wiener?
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谁说你可以考虑的?弹簧香肠?
13:17
AS: So how do you make a selfish character likable?
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所以,我们怎么让一个自私的角色变得讨人喜欢?
13:19
We realized, you can make him kind,
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我们意识到,你也可以他变得善良起来
13:21
generous, funny, considerate,
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慷慨的、风趣的、贴心的
13:23
as long as one condition is met for him,
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只要一个条件满足了
13:25
is that he stays the top toy.
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那就是让他做最受宠爱的玩具
13:27
And that's what it really is,
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而现实也是如此
13:29
is that we all live life conditionally.
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我们过着有条件的生活
13:31
We're all willing to play by the rules and follow things along,
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我们心甘情愿的遵循规则
13:33
as long as certain conditions are met.
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只要某些条件符合了
13:36
After that, all bets are off.
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在这之后,没什么好纠结的
13:38
And before I'd even decided to make storytelling my career,
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在我决定要将讲故事作为我的职业的之前
13:41
I can now see key things that happened in my youth
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我无法理解那些发生在我青年时的关键事件
13:43
that really sort of opened my eyes
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那些真正开放我的眼界
13:45
to certain things about story.
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对于故事的一些事情
13:47
In 1986, I truly understood the notion
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在1986年的时候,我理解到
13:50
of story having a theme.
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故事总是有一个主题的
13:53
And that was the year that they restored and re-released
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而正是那一年,电影“阿拉伯的劳伦斯”
13:56
"Lawrence of Arabia."
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重新上映
13:58
And I saw that thing seven times in one month.
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我把那部片子在一个月里看了七次
14:01
I couldn't get enough of it.
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怎么看都不够
14:03
I could just tell there was a grand design under it --
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我可以分辨出这里面有精心设计的内容——
14:06
in every shot, every scene, every line.
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每个镜头、每个场景、每句台词
14:08
Yet, on the surface it just seemed
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但是,从表面上来看
14:10
to be depicting his historical lineage
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故事好像只是在讲述他古老的血统
14:13
of what went on.
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和之后发生的事情
14:15
Yet, there was something more being said. What exactly was it?
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不过,有些东西还是被提到了。到底是什么呢?
14:17
And it wasn't until, on one of my later viewings,
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直到我最近几次观看,我才发现它
14:19
that the veil was lifted
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这块神秘面纱才被揭露
14:21
and it was in a scene where he's walked across the Sinai Desert
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这个场景里,他在穿越西奈沙漠
14:24
and he's reached the Suez Canal,
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这时他到达了苏伊士运河
14:26
and I suddenly got it.
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然后我一下子就顿悟了
14:33
(Video) Boy: Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!
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(视频)男孩:嗨!嗨!嗨!嗨!
14:46
Cyclist: Who are you?
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骑行者:你们是谁?
14:50
Who are you?
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你们是谁?
14:53
AS: That was the theme: Who are you?
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这就是故事的主题:你们是谁?
14:56
Here were all these seemingly disparate
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看上去这些零散的
14:58
events and dialogues
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事件和对话
15:00
that just were chronologically telling the history of him,
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好像只是按历史顺序在叙述他的故事
15:03
but underneath it was a constant,
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然而深层次里有一个坚持的
15:05
a guideline, a road map.
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指南方向,一个旅行地图
15:07
Everything Lawrence did in that movie
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每一件劳伦斯在电影里所做的事情
15:09
was an attempt for him to figure out where his place was in the world.
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都是在帮助他搞明白他自己是在世界上的哪个地方
15:12
A strong theme is always running through
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一个强烈的主题总是贯穿于
15:15
a well-told story.
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一个动听的故事
15:18
When I was five,
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在我五岁的时候,
15:20
I was introduced to possibly the most major ingredient
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我被告知什么是讲故事
15:23
that I feel a story should have,
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我觉得的最主要的元素
15:26
but is rarely invoked.
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但这很少被提到
15:28
And this is what my mother took me to when I was five.
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这是我在五岁的时候妈妈带我去看的东西
15:34
(Video) Thumper: Come on. It's all right.
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(视频)小兔桑普:来,没事的。
15:37
Look.
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15:39
The water's stiff.
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这河水很牢固
15:45
Bambi: Yippee!
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小鹿斑比:呀!
15:57
Thumper: Some fun,
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小兔桑普:挺好玩的,
15:59
huh, Bambi?
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是吧,斑比?
16:02
Come on. Get up.
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快来,站起来
16:04
Like this.
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像这样
16:24
Ha ha. No, no, no.
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哈哈,不不不
16:27
AS: I walked out of there
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当我走出影院时
16:29
wide-eyed with wonder.
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睁大的眼睛里充满了疑问
16:31
And that's what I think the magic ingredient is,
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这就是我认为的神奇配方
16:33
the secret sauce,
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这个神秘配料
16:35
is can you invoke wonder.
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就是激起你惊疑
16:37
Wonder is honest, it's completely innocent.
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惊疑代表着诚实,它是绝对的天真无邪
16:39
It can't be artificially evoked.
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这是无法人为的制造出来的
16:41
For me, there's no greater ability
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对我来说,没有什么比
16:43
than the gift of another human being giving you that feeling --
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拥有一个来自别人给你带来的一种感觉--
16:46
to hold them still just for a brief moment in their day
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那个让人在某一天的短暂的时刻里
16:49
and have them surrender to wonder.
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屈服于惊疑
16:51
When it's tapped, the affirmation of being alive,
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当它出现的时候,灵动了起来
16:54
it reaches you almost to a cellular level.
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这就好像一个循环系统一样
16:57
And when an artist does that to another artist,
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当一个艺术家对另一个艺术家表现的时候
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it's like you're compelled to pass it on.
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你不得不传递下去
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It's like a dormant command
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就像是一个潜在的命令般
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that suddenly is activated in you, like a call to Devil's Tower.
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突然间激活了你,就像恶魔塔的召唤一样
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Do unto others what's been done to you.
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别人怎么对你你就怎么对他们
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The best stories infuse wonder.
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好故事总是伴随着惊疑
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When I was four years old,
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在我四岁的时候,
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I have a vivid memory
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我有这么一段鲜明的记忆
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of finding two pinpoint scars on my ankle
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关于寻找我的脚裸上的两个大头针伤疤
17:19
and asking my dad what they were.
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当我问我爸爸它们在哪里的时候
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And he said I had a matching pair like that on my head,
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他告诉我我还有一对这样的伤疤在头上
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but I couldn't see them because of my hair.
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但因为头发的缘故我看不到它们
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And he explained that when I was born,
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他解释说在我出生的时候
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I was born premature,
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我早产了
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that I came out much too early,
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我出来的时间过于早
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and I wasn't fully baked;
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我没有完全准备好
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I was very, very sick.
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那时的我非常,非常虚弱
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And when the doctor took a look at this yellow kid with black teeth,
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当医生看着这个黄黄的婴儿和他黑乎乎的牙齿
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he looked straight at my mom and said,
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他盯着我的母亲说
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"He's not going to live."
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“他没办法活下来”
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And I was in the hospital for months.
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我在医院里呆了数个月
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And many blood transfusions later,
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在许多次的血液更换以后
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I lived,
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我活下来了
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and that made me special.
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而这是我独特的地方
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I don't know if I really believe that.
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我不知道自己是不是真的相信这个说法
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I don't know if my parents really believe that,
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我也不知道我的父母是否同意
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but I didn't want to prove them wrong.
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不过我不想去颠覆它们的真实性
18:03
Whatever I ended up being good at,
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每当我获得成功的时候
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I would strive to be worthy of the second chance I was given.
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我会努力去珍惜着这个二次机会的给予
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(Video) (Crying)
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(视频)(哭声)
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Marlin: There, there, there.
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马文:好了,好了,好了。
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It's okay, daddy's here.
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没事了,爹地在这里。
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Daddy's got you.
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爹地找到你了。
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I promise,
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我保证,
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I will never let anything happen to you, Nemo.
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我不会让任何意外发生在你的身上,尼莫。
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AS: And that's the first story lesson I ever learned.
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而那就是我学到的第一个关于故事的课程
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Use what you know. Draw from it.
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用你所知道的,从中取经
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It doesn't always mean plot or fact.
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这不是说总得写情节或者事实
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It means capturing a truth from your experiencing it,
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它是指从你经历中的捕捉真谛
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expressing values you personally feel
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表达那些你切身体会到的有价值的东西
18:54
deep down in your core.
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而且扎根在你的核心
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And that's what ultimately led me to speaking to you
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这就是基本上启发我
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here at TEDTalk today.
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今天在TED上给你们带来的演讲
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
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(Applause)
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