Susan Lim: Transplant cells, not organs

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翻译人员: Bear Jin 校对人员: Pei Zhang
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So I was privileged to train in transplantation
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能在两位伟大的外科先驱者
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under two great surgical pioneers:
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手下学习移植手术,是我的荣幸。
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Thomas Starzl,
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一位是托马斯·斯达泽,
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who performed the world's first successful liver transplant
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世界上第一个成功完成肝脏移植手术的人
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in 1967,
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在1967年,
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and Sir Roy Calne,
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另一位是罗伊·卡恩爵士,
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who performed the first liver transplant in the U.K.
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在英国第一个完成肝脏移植手术的人
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in the following year.
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在世界首例肝脏手术完成之后的一年(1978)。
00:37
I returned to Singapore
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我回到新加坡
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and, in 1990,
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然后,在1990年
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performed Asia's first successful
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完成了亚洲首例
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cadaveric liver transplant procedure,
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尸肝移植手术,
00:46
but against all odds.
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尽管手术困难重重。
00:49
Now when I look back,
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现在,当我回过头来看的时候,
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the transplant was actually the easiest part.
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手术部分其实是最简单的。
00:55
Next, raising the money to fund the procedure.
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其次是,凑钱来准备手术的费用。
00:59
But perhaps the most challenging part
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但最有难度的是
01:03
was to convince the regulators --
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是让那些立法者明白一件事实--
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a matter which was debated in the parliament --
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这件事曾在议会辩论过--
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that a young female surgeon
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就是一个年轻女外科医生
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be allowed the opportunity
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有没有资格
01:13
to pioneer for her country.
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获得国家外科先驱的称号。
01:16
But 20 years on,
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20年过去了,
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my patient, Surinder,
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我的病人,萨伦德,
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is Asia's longest surviving
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是到目前为止的亚洲尸肝移植的
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cadaveric liver transplant to date.
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最长存活者。
01:25
(Applause)
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(掌声)
01:29
And perhaps more important,
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但更重要的是,
01:32
I am the proud godmother
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我有幸成为她
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to her 14 year-old son.
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14岁儿子的教母。
01:36
(Applause)
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(掌声)
01:40
But not all patients on the transplant wait list
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但并不是所有在移植手术表单上排队等侯的病人
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are so fortunate.
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都是那么幸运。
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The truth is,
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现实是,
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there are just simply not enough donor organs
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捐献的器官根本不够
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to go around.
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用。
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As the demand for donor organs
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对捐献器官需求
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continues to rise,
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持续的增加,
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in large part due to the aging population,
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很大程度上是因为人口的老龄化,
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the supply has remained relatively constant.
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然而器官的供应还是相对的保持不变。
02:01
In the United States alone,
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仅美国而言,
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100,000 men, women and children
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就有10万人,有男人,女人还有小孩
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are on the waiting list for donor organs,
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都在等待捐助的器官的名单之中,
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and more than a dozen die each day
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而且每天有十几人死亡
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because of a lack of donor organs.
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就因为缺少捐献的器官。
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The transplant community
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移植团体
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has actively campaigned in organ donation.
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活跃于器官捐献的活动中。
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And the gift of life
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而且器官(捐赠范围)
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has been extended
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已经被扩大化
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from brain-dead donors
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从脑死亡的捐献者
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to living, related donors --
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到还在世的有血缘关系的亲属捐献者
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relatives who might donate an organ
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这样的亲属捐献者可能会捐献整个器官
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or a part of an organ,
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或者部分器官,
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like a split liver graft,
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例如将肝脏部分移植
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to a relative or loved one.
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给亲属或者是所爱的人。
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But as there was still a dire shortage of donor organs,
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但是捐献器官还是非常紧缺,
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the gift of life was then extended
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接着器官(捐赠范围)再一次扩大
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from living, related donors
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从活着的有血缘关系的亲属捐献者
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to now living, unrelated donors.
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到现在活着的没有血缘关系的非亲属捐献者。
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And this then has given rise
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这样就引发了
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to unprecedented and unexpected
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前所未有的
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moral controversy.
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一场道德纷争。
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How can one distinguish
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怎么才能辨别出
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a donation that is voluntary and altruistic
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捐献者是出于自愿和无私
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from one that is forced or coerced
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而不是被迫或强制捐献器官
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from, for example,
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举个例子,在
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a submissive spouse, an in-law,
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顺从的伴侣,媳婿,
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a servant, a slave,
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仆人,奴隶,
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an employee?
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雇员这样的身份下我们如何分辨捐赠的自愿性?
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Where and how can we draw the line?
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这条界限我们如何以及怎样加以区分?
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In my part of the world,
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在我生活周围,
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too many people live below the poverty line.
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很多人都生活在贫困线之下。
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And in some areas,
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在有些地方,
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the commercial gifting of an organ
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用活体器官
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in exchange for monetary reward
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来换取金钱上的回报
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has led to a flourishing trade
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已经是非常盛行的
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in living, unrelated donors.
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的一种商业交易。
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Shortly after I performed the first liver transplant,
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在完成首例肝移植后不久,
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I received my next assignment,
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我接到的下一个任务
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and that was to go to the prisons
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就是去监狱里
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to harvest organs
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从执行死刑的犯人身上
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from executed prisoners.
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获取器官。
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I was also pregnant at the time.
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在那时我已经怀孕了。
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Pregnancies are meant
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孕期
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to be happy and fulfilling moments
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是个让人高兴和充满喜悦的时期
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in any woman's life.
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对每个女人来说都是这样。
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But my joyful period
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但是本该属于我的这段喜悦的时期
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was marred by solemn and morbid thoughts --
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却被一种幽暗的病态的境况所损坏。
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thoughts of walking through
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这种境况就是步行穿过
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the prison's high-security death row,
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监狱的最高安保的死囚区,
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as this was the only route
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因为这是到临时的手术室(从死刑犯身上移取器官)
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to take me to the makeshift operating room.
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的唯一的一条路。
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And at each time,
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每当这时,
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I would feel the chilling stares
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我就能感到那
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of condemned prisoners' eyes follow me.
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跟随我的死刑犯人眼中的令人毛骨悚然的目光。
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And for two years,
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之后的2年,
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I struggled with the dilemma
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我都挣扎在这样的困境中
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of waking up at 4:30 am
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每周五早上
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on a Friday morning,
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凌晨四点半醒来,
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driving to the prison,
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开车去到监狱,
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getting down, gloved and scrubbed,
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着手准备,戴上手套,消毒,
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ready to receive the body
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准备从
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of an executed prisoner,
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死刑犯人的尸体中
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remove the organs
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移出器官
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and then transport these organs
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然后将这些器官带回
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to the recipient hospital
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到接受者的医院
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and then graft the gift of life
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之后当天下午
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to a recipient the same afternoon.
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给接受者移植这些器官。
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No doubt, I was informed,
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毫无疑问,手术是
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the consent had been obtained.
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是获得了准许(捐赠器官)。
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But, in my life,
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但是我一生,
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the one fulfilling skill that I had
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我拥有的唯一在行的技术
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was now invoking feelings of conflict --
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使我产生了情感上的冲突
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conflict ranging
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这种感情上的冲突
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from extreme sorrow and doubt at dawn
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从清晨时的极度悲伤和疑虑一直延续
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to celebratory joy
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到黄昏时
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at engrafting the gift of life at dusk.
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庆祝移植器官成功的喜悦。
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In my team,
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在我的团队中,
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the lives of one or two of my colleagues
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有一两个同事的生活
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were tainted by this experience.
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也被这样的经历所困扰。
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Some of us may have been sublimated,
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我们中的一些人已经可以接受这样的状况,
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but really none of us remained the same.
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但是实际上没有人还是原来的自己。
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I was troubled
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我很担忧
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that the retrieval of organs from executed prisoners
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这种从死刑囚犯上得来器官的做法。
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was at least as morally controversial
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这种做法起码在道德上看来是有争议的
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as the harvesting of stem cells
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就像从人类胚胎中
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from human embryos.
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获取干细胞一样有争议。
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And in my mind,
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而且我认为,
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I realized as a surgical pioneer
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作为一名外科先锋人物
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that the purpose of my position of influence
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我拥有影响力的地位的目的
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was surely to speak up
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就是为了
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for those who have no influence.
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替那些没有影响力的人说话。
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It made me wonder
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这让我思考
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if there could be a better way --
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是否有更好的方法--
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a way to circumvent death
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即能绕过死亡
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and yet deliver the gift of life
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而又同时获得器官的方法。
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that might exponentially impact
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这样可能会以指数级的影响力影响到
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millions of patients worldwide.
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全世界成千上万的病人。
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Now just about that time,
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也就是在那个时候,
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the practice of surgery evolved
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外科手术
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from big to small,
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逐渐从宏观到微观
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from wide open incisions
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从大的开放性的切口
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to keyhole procedures,
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到孔洞式的
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tiny incisions.
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微创技术。
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And in transplantation, concepts shifted
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而且移植手术的概念已经转变成了
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from whole organs to cells.
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从完整的器官移植到细胞移植。
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In 1988, at the University of Minnesota,
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1988年,在明尼苏达大学,
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I participated in a small series
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我参与了一个小规模的
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of whole organ pancreas transplants.
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完整胰脏移植手术。
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I witnessed the technical difficulty.
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我亲眼目睹了此项技术的难度。
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And this inspired in my mind
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同时这激发了我
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a shift from transplanting whole organs
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关于从移植整个器官
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to perhaps transplanting cells.
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到移植细胞的思考。
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I thought to myself,
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我在想,
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why not take the individual cells
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为什么不能把那些能分泌出胰岛素治愈糖尿病的个体细胞
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out of the pancreas --
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移出
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the cells that secrete insulin to cure diabetes --
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胰腺
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and transplant these cells? --
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然后移植这些细胞呢?
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technically a much simpler procedure
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从技术的角度讲这更为简单
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than having to grapple with the complexities
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相比起进行整个器官移植
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of transplanting a whole organ.
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手术的复杂性。
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And at that time,
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当时,
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stem cell research
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干细胞研究
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had gained momentum,
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已经有了一定的进展,
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following the isolation of the world's first
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世界上首次分离出
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human embryonic stem cells
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人类胚胎干细胞
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in the 1990s.
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是在90年代。
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The observation that stem cells, as master cells,
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干细胞,也叫主细胞,
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could give rise
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能发育成
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to a whole variety of different cell types --
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完整的不同种类的细胞-
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heart cells, liver cells,
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像心肌细胞,肝细胞,
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pancreatic islet cells --
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胰岛细胞--
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captured the attention of the media
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这项发现引起了媒体的广泛关注
07:56
and the imagination of the public.
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也激发了公众的想象力。
07:59
I too was fascinated
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我也被这种全新的
08:01
by this new and disruptive cell technology,
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分离细胞的技术所吸引,
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and this inspired a shift in my mindset,
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同时这激发了我思维上的转变,
08:07
from transplanting whole organs
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从移植整个器官
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to transplanting cells.
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到移植细胞。
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And I focused my research on stem cells
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我把研究集中放在
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as a possible source
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可能会成为
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for cell transplants.
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细胞移植来源的干细胞中。
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Today we realize
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今天我们认识到
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that there are many different types of stem cells.
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有很多种不同种类的干细胞。
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Embryonic stem cells
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其中,胚胎干细胞
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have occupied center stage,
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占据了中心地位,
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chiefly because of their pluripotency --
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主要是因为它的多能性--
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that is their ease in differentiating
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就是胚胎干细胞能轻松的分化成
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into a variety of different cell types.
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不同种类的细胞。
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But the moral controversy
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但是之所以胚胎干细胞
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surrounding embryonic stem cells --
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在道德上备受非议是
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the fact that these cells are derived
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因为这些细胞来源于
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from five-day old human embryos --
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5天大的人类胚胎--
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has encouraged research
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正是因为这种争议才激励人们研究
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into other types of stem cells.
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其他类型的干细胞。
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Now to the ridicule of my colleagues,
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在同事的嘲讽声中,
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I inspired my lab
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我将实验放在
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to focus on what I thought
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集中研究
09:05
was the most non-controversial source of stem cells,
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最没有争议的干细胞源
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adipose tissue, or fat, yes fat --
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那就是脂肪组织,或叫脂肪,对是肥肉
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nowadays available in abundant supply --
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现如今随处可以找到脂肪
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you and I, I think, would be very happy to get rid of anyway.
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我想你和我一样肯定很乐意摆脱它。
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Fat-derived stem cells
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脂肪源干细胞
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are adult stem cells.
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是一种成体干细胞。
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And adult stem cells
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成体干细胞在
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are found in you and me --
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你和我身上都能找到--
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in our blood, in our bone marrow,
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它存在于血液,骨髓,
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in our fat, our skin and other organs.
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脂肪,皮肤和其他器官中。
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And as it turns out,
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同时这也证明,
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fat is one of the best sources
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脂肪是成体干细胞的
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of adult stem cells.
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最优来源之一。
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But adult stem cells
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但是成体干细胞
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are not embryonic stem cells.
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并不是胚胎干细胞。
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And here is the limitation:
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它有其自身的局限性:
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adult stem cells are mature cells,
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成体干细胞是成熟的细胞,
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and, like mature human beings,
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就像成年人一样,
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these cells are more restricted in their thought
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较难改变它们的思维定势
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and more restricted in their behavior
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较难改变它们的行为方式
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and are unable to give rise
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同时它们也不能像胚胎干细胞一样
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to the wide variety of specialized cell types,
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分化成很多种
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as embryonic stem cells [can].
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特定的功能细胞。
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But in 2007,
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但是在2007年,
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two remarkable individuals,
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两位杰出人士,
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Shinya Yamanaka of Japan
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日本京都大学教授山中伸弥教授
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and Jamie Thomson of the United States,
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和美国的杰米·汤普逊,
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made an astounding discovery.
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有了一项令人震惊的发现。
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They discovered
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他们发现
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that adult cells, taken from you and me,
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那些从你我身上获取的成体细胞
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could be reprogrammed
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可以重组
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back into embryonic-like cells,
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变回到类似胚胎的干细胞,
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which they termed IPS cells,
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他们将这些细胞命名为IPS细胞,
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or induced pluripotent stem cells.
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或称为诱导性多潜能干细胞。
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And so guess what,
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你猜怎么着,
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scientists around the world and in the labs
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全世界科学家在实验室中
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are racing
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争先恐后的
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to convert aging adult cells --
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转变
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aging adult cells from you and me --
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从你我身上的得来的成体细胞,
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they are racing to reprogram these cells
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他们竞相重组这些细胞
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back into more useful IPS cells.
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使之成为更有用的IPS细胞。
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And in our lab,
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在实验室,
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we are focused on taking fat
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我们专注于提取脂肪
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and reprogramming
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并重新编辑,
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mounds of fat
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将成堆的脂肪
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into fountains of youthful cells --
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变成幼年细胞
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cells that we may use
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我们可以将这些幼年的细胞
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to then form other,
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转化为其他细胞,
11:14
more specialized, cells,
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更为特定的细胞,
11:16
which one day may be used as cell transplants.
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而转化后的这些细胞或许也可以用作细胞移植。
11:20
If this research is successful,
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如果这项实验成功的话,
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it may then reduce the need
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它就能减少用于
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to research and sacrifice
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研究和
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human embryos.
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牺牲人类胚胎的需求数量。
11:32
Indeed, there is a lot of hype, but also hope
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真的,这样说也许有些夸张,但是我们也希望
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that the promise of stem cells
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干细胞
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will one day provide cures
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能够在将来治愈
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for a whole range of conditions.
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下列一系列的病症,
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Heart disease, stroke, diabetes,
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心脏病,中风,糖尿病,
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spinal cord injury, muscular dystrophy,
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脊髓损伤,肌肉萎缩,
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retinal eye diseases --
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视网膜病症--
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are any of these conditions
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在以上病症中有与你
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relevant, personally, to you?
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有关的吗?
11:54
In May 2006,
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2006年5月,
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something horrible happened to me.
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有件恐怖的事情发生在我身上。
12:00
I was about to start a robotic operation,
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我在进行常规手术的准备,
12:02
but stepping out of the elevator
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但是当我走出电梯
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into the bright and glaring lights of the operating room,
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来到手术室的明亮炫目的手术灯下的时候,
12:07
I realized
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我感觉到
12:09
that my left visual field
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左眼
12:11
was fast collapsing into darkness.
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很快就看不到任何东西了。
12:14
Earlier that week,
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那一周的早些时候,
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I had taken a rather hard knock
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我在春末滑雪时
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during late spring skiing -- yes, I fell.
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跌了蛮重的一跤--是的,我摔倒了。
12:21
And I started to see floaters and stars,
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紧接着眼冒金星,
12:23
which I casually dismissed
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当时我并没有重视这个现象
12:25
as too much high-altitude sun exposure.
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只认为那是高海拔阳光照射过多的缘故。
12:28
What happened to me
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这件事
12:30
might have been catastrophic,
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发生以后,
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if not for the fact
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如果我没有
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that I was in reach of good surgical access.
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接受良好的手术治疗的话,我想现在对我来说,肯定是场大灾难。
12:36
And I had my vision restored,
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经过了三个月(并不算长的时间)
12:38
but not before a prolonged period of convalescence --
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一直保持头向下的状态的康复期
12:41
three months --
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之后
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in a head down position.
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我的视力恢复了。
12:45
This experience
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这次的经历
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taught me to empathize more with my patients,
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让我更加能体谅患者
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and especially those with retinal diseases.
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特别是有视觉疾病的患者。
12:54
37 million people worldwide
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世界上3700万人
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are blind,
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是盲人,
12:58
and 127 million more
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同时1亿2700万的人
13:01
suffer from impaired vision.
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饱受视觉受损的困扰。
13:04
Stem cell-derived retinal transplants,
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视网膜干细胞移植,
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now in a research phase,
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目前正处于研究的阶段,
13:09
may one day restore vision,
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也许将来的某天它就能帮世界上成千上万
13:11
or part vision,
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视觉障碍患者
13:13
to millions of patients with retinal diseases worldwide.
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重现光明,或者恢复部分视力。
13:17
Indeed, we live
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确实,我们生活在
13:19
in both challenging
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一个即富有挑战
13:21
as well as exciting times.
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又令人刺激的年代。
13:25
As the world population ages,
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当全球人口出现老龄化,
13:28
scientists are racing
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科学家们竞相
13:30
to discover new ways
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去寻找新的方法:
13:32
to enhance the power of the body
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通过干细胞治愈自身
13:34
to heal itself through stem cells.
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来达到提高人体机能的目的。
13:37
It is a fact
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事实上,
13:39
that when our organs or tissues are injured,
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当器官或者组织受损时,
13:42
our bone marrow
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我们的骨髓
13:44
releases stem cells
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会通过血液循环向血液中
13:46
into our circulation.
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释放干细胞。
13:48
And these stem cells
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这些干细胞
13:50
then float in the bloodstream
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漂浮在血液中
13:52
and hone in to damaged organs
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找到受损的器官然后
13:55
to release growth factors
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释放出生长因子
13:57
to repair the damaged tissue.
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来修复受损组织。
13:59
Stem cells may be used as building blocks
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干细胞就好比是砌墙用的砖块
14:02
to repair damaged scaffolds within our body,
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修复身体中受损的支架,
14:06
or to provide new liver cells
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或是变成新的肝细胞
14:08
to repair damaged liver.
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来修复受损的肝脏。
14:11
As we speak, there are 117 or so clinical trials
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在我们说话的时候,大约有117例用
14:14
researching the use of stem cells
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干细胞来治疗肝脏疾病
14:17
for liver diseases.
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的临床实验在进行。
14:19
What lies ahead?
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那种病症是世界上的头号杀手?
14:21
Heart disease
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心脏病
14:23
is the leading cause of death worldwide.
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是世界上首要死亡原因。
14:25
1.1 million Americans
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每年有110万美国人
14:27
suffer heart attacks yearly.
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心脏病发作。
14:30
4.8 million
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480万人
14:32
suffer cardiac failure.
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患有心力衰竭。
14:34
Stem cells may be used
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干细胞可以通过
14:36
to deliver growth factors
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传递生长因子
14:38
to repair damaged heart muscle
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来修复受损的心肌
14:40
or be differentiated
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也可以分化成
14:42
into heart muscle cells
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不同的心肌细胞
14:44
to restore heart function.
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来恢复心脏机能。
14:46
There are 170 clinical trials
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有170例临床实验
14:49
investigating the role of stem cells in heart disease.
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正在研究干细胞在心脏疾病中所起的作用。
14:53
While still in a research phase,
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这虽然尚在研发阶段,
14:56
stem cells may one day herald
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但是干细胞就给我们预示了
14:59
a quantum leap in the field of cardiology.
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以后会在心脏学领域会有巨大的突破。
15:03
Stem cells provide hope for new beginnings --
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干细胞为新的起点带来了希望,
15:06
small, incremental steps,
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这个希望是循序渐进的,
15:09
cells rather than organs,
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是用细胞移植来代替是器官移植,
15:12
repair rather than replacement.
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是用修复器官来代替是取代器官。
15:15
Stem cell therapies
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干细胞疗法
15:18
may one day reduce the need for donor organs.
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将来会减少对于捐献器官的需求。
15:22
Powerful new technologies
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强有力的新科技
15:24
always present enigmas.
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总是向人们展现它的神秘。
15:26
As we speak,
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就在我们说话的时候,
15:28
the world's first human embryonic stem cell trial for spinal cord injury
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世界上首例用人类胚胎干细胞治疗脊髓受损的实验
15:31
is currently underway
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在美国食品药物管理局批准下
15:33
following the USFDA approval.
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正在进行当中。
15:36
And in the U.K.,
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同时在英国,
15:38
neural stem cells to treat stroke
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用神经干细胞来治疗中风
15:40
are being investigated in a phase one trial.
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也正处于临床阶段。
15:44
The research success that we celebrate today
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我们今天所称赞的这些研究成果
15:47
has been made possible
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之所以成为现实
15:49
by the curiosity and contribution and commitment
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是要归功于那些具有探索和献身精神的
15:53
of individual scientists
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科学家
15:55
and medical pioneers.
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和医学界先锋们。
15:57
Each one has his story.
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每个人都有属于自己的故事。
16:00
My story has been about my journey
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而我的故事是我从器官移植
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from organs to cells --
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走到细胞移植的一段旅程,
16:05
a journey through controversy,
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这其中即充满了争议,
16:07
inspired by hope --
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同时又有希望的鼓舞。
16:09
hope that, as we age,
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这个希望就是当我们老去的时候
16:12
you and I may one day celebrate longevity
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你和我有一天能在良好的生活水平下
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with an improved quality of life.
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来庆祝人类的长寿。
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
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