Susan Lim: Transplant cells, not organs

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So I was privileged to train in transplantation
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under two great surgical pioneers:
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Thomas Starzl,
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who performed the world's first successful liver transplant
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in 1967,
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and Sir Roy Calne,
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who performed the first liver transplant in the U.K.
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in the following year.
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I returned to Singapore
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and, in 1990,
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performed Asia's first successful
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cadaveric liver transplant procedure,
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but against all odds.
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Now when I look back,
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the transplant was actually the easiest part.
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Next, raising the money to fund the procedure.
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But perhaps the most challenging part
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was to convince the regulators --
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a matter which was debated in the parliament --
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that a young female surgeon
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be allowed the opportunity
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to pioneer for her country.
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But 20 years on,
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my patient, Surinder,
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is Asia's longest surviving
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cadaveric liver transplant to date.
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(Applause)
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And perhaps more important,
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I am the proud godmother
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to her 14 year-old son.
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(Applause)
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But not all patients on the transplant wait list
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are so fortunate.
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The truth is,
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there are just simply not enough donor organs
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to go around.
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As the demand for donor organs
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continues to rise,
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in large part due to the aging population,
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the supply has remained relatively constant.
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In the United States alone,
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100,000 men, women and children
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are on the waiting list for donor organs,
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and more than a dozen die each day
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because of a lack of donor organs.
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The transplant community
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has actively campaigned in organ donation.
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And the gift of life
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has been extended
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from brain-dead donors
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to living, related donors --
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relatives who might donate an organ
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or a part of an organ,
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like a split liver graft,
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to a relative or loved one.
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But as there was still a dire shortage of donor organs,
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the gift of life was then extended
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from living, related donors
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to now living, unrelated donors.
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And this then has given rise
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to unprecedented and unexpected
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moral controversy.
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How can one distinguish
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a donation that is voluntary and altruistic
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from one that is forced or coerced
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from, for example,
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a submissive spouse, an in-law,
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a servant, a slave,
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an employee?
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Where and how can we draw the line?
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In my part of the world,
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too many people live below the poverty line.
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And in some areas,
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the commercial gifting of an organ
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in exchange for monetary reward
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has led to a flourishing trade
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in living, unrelated donors.
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Shortly after I performed the first liver transplant,
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I received my next assignment,
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and that was to go to the prisons
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to harvest organs
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from executed prisoners.
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I was also pregnant at the time.
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Pregnancies are meant
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to be happy and fulfilling moments
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in any woman's life.
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But my joyful period
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was marred by solemn and morbid thoughts --
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thoughts of walking through
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the prison's high-security death row,
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as this was the only route
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to take me to the makeshift operating room.
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And at each time,
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I would feel the chilling stares
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of condemned prisoners' eyes follow me.
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And for two years,
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I struggled with the dilemma
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of waking up at 4:30 am
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on a Friday morning,
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driving to the prison,
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getting down, gloved and scrubbed,
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ready to receive the body
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of an executed prisoner,
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remove the organs
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and then transport these organs
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to the recipient hospital
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and then graft the gift of life
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to a recipient the same afternoon.
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No doubt, I was informed,
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the consent had been obtained.
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But, in my life,
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the one fulfilling skill that I had
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was now invoking feelings of conflict --
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conflict ranging
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from extreme sorrow and doubt at dawn
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to celebratory joy
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at engrafting the gift of life at dusk.
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In my team,
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the lives of one or two of my colleagues
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were tainted by this experience.
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Some of us may have been sublimated,
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but really none of us remained the same.
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I was troubled
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that the retrieval of organs from executed prisoners
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was at least as morally controversial
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as the harvesting of stem cells
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from human embryos.
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And in my mind,
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I realized as a surgical pioneer
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that the purpose of my position of influence
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was surely to speak up
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for those who have no influence.
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It made me wonder
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if there could be a better way --
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a way to circumvent death
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and yet deliver the gift of life
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that might exponentially impact
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millions of patients worldwide.
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Now just about that time,
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the practice of surgery evolved
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from big to small,
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from wide open incisions
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to keyhole procedures,
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tiny incisions.
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And in transplantation, concepts shifted
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from whole organs to cells.
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In 1988, at the University of Minnesota,
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I participated in a small series
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of whole organ pancreas transplants.
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I witnessed the technical difficulty.
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And this inspired in my mind
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a shift from transplanting whole organs
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to perhaps transplanting cells.
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I thought to myself,
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why not take the individual cells
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out of the pancreas --
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the cells that secrete insulin to cure diabetes --
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and transplant these cells? --
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technically a much simpler procedure
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than having to grapple with the complexities
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of transplanting a whole organ.
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And at that time,
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stem cell research
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had gained momentum,
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following the isolation of the world's first
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human embryonic stem cells
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in the 1990s.
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The observation that stem cells, as master cells,
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could give rise
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to a whole variety of different cell types --
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heart cells, liver cells,
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pancreatic islet cells --
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captured the attention of the media
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and the imagination of the public.
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I too was fascinated
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by this new and disruptive cell technology,
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and this inspired a shift in my mindset,
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from transplanting whole organs
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to transplanting cells.
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And I focused my research on stem cells
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as a possible source
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for cell transplants.
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Today we realize
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that there are many different types of stem cells.
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Embryonic stem cells
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have occupied center stage,
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chiefly because of their pluripotency --
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that is their ease in differentiating
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into a variety of different cell types.
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But the moral controversy
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surrounding embryonic stem cells --
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the fact that these cells are derived
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from five-day old human embryos --
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has encouraged research
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into other types of stem cells.
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Now to the ridicule of my colleagues,
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I inspired my lab
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to focus on what I thought
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was the most non-controversial source of stem cells,
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adipose tissue, or fat, yes fat --
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nowadays available in abundant supply --
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you and I, I think, would be very happy to get rid of anyway.
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Fat-derived stem cells
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are adult stem cells.
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And adult stem cells
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are found in you and me --
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in our blood, in our bone marrow,
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in our fat, our skin and other organs.
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And as it turns out,
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fat is one of the best sources
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of adult stem cells.
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But adult stem cells
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are not embryonic stem cells.
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And here is the limitation:
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adult stem cells are mature cells,
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and, like mature human beings,
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these cells are more restricted in their thought
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and more restricted in their behavior
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and are unable to give rise
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to the wide variety of specialized cell types,
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as embryonic stem cells [can].
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But in 2007,
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two remarkable individuals,
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Shinya Yamanaka of Japan
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and Jamie Thomson of the United States,
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made an astounding discovery.
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They discovered
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that adult cells, taken from you and me,
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could be reprogrammed
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back into embryonic-like cells,
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which they termed IPS cells,
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or induced pluripotent stem cells.
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And so guess what,
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scientists around the world and in the labs
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are racing
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to convert aging adult cells --
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aging adult cells from you and me --
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they are racing to reprogram these cells
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back into more useful IPS cells.
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And in our lab,
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we are focused on taking fat
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and reprogramming
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mounds of fat
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into fountains of youthful cells --
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cells that we may use
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to then form other,
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more specialized, cells,
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which one day may be used as cell transplants.
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If this research is successful,
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it may then reduce the need
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to research and sacrifice
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human embryos.
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Indeed, there is a lot of hype, but also hope
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that the promise of stem cells
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will one day provide cures
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for a whole range of conditions.
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Heart disease, stroke, diabetes,
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spinal cord injury, muscular dystrophy,
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retinal eye diseases --
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are any of these conditions
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relevant, personally, to you?
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In May 2006,
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something horrible happened to me.
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I was about to start a robotic operation,
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but stepping out of the elevator
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into the bright and glaring lights of the operating room,
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I realized
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that my left visual field
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was fast collapsing into darkness.
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Earlier that week,
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I had taken a rather hard knock
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during late spring skiing -- yes, I fell.
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And I started to see floaters and stars,
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which I casually dismissed
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as too much high-altitude sun exposure.
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What happened to me
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might have been catastrophic,
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if not for the fact
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that I was in reach of good surgical access.
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And I had my vision restored,
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but not before a prolonged period of convalescence --
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three months --
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in a head down position.
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This experience
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taught me to empathize more with my patients,
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and especially those with retinal diseases.
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37 million people worldwide
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are blind,
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and 127 million more
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suffer from impaired vision.
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Stem cell-derived retinal transplants,
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now in a research phase,
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may one day restore vision,
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or part vision,
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to millions of patients with retinal diseases worldwide.
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Indeed, we live
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in both challenging
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as well as exciting times.
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As the world population ages,
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scientists are racing
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to discover new ways
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to enhance the power of the body
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to heal itself through stem cells.
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It is a fact
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that when our organs or tissues are injured,
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our bone marrow
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releases stem cells
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into our circulation.
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And these stem cells
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then float in the bloodstream
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and hone in to damaged organs
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to release growth factors
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to repair the damaged tissue.
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Stem cells may be used as building blocks
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to repair damaged scaffolds within our body,
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or to provide new liver cells
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to repair damaged liver.
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As we speak, there are 117 or so clinical trials
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researching the use of stem cells
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for liver diseases.
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What lies ahead?
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Heart disease
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is the leading cause of death worldwide.
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1.1 million Americans
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suffer heart attacks yearly.
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4.8 million
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suffer cardiac failure.
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Stem cells may be used
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to deliver growth factors
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to repair damaged heart muscle
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or be differentiated
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into heart muscle cells
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to restore heart function.
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There are 170 clinical trials
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investigating the role of stem cells in heart disease.
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While still in a research phase,
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stem cells may one day herald
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a quantum leap in the field of cardiology.
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Stem cells provide hope for new beginnings --
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small, incremental steps,
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cells rather than organs,
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repair rather than replacement.
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Stem cell therapies
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may one day reduce the need for donor organs.
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Powerful new technologies
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always present enigmas.
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As we speak,
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the world's first human embryonic stem cell trial for spinal cord injury
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is currently underway
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following the USFDA approval.
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And in the U.K.,
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neural stem cells to treat stroke
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are being investigated in a phase one trial.
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The research success that we celebrate today
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has been made possible
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by the curiosity and contribution and commitment
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of individual scientists
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and medical pioneers.
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Each one has his story.
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My story has been about my journey
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from organs to cells --
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a journey through controversy,
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inspired by hope --
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hope that, as we age,
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you and I may one day celebrate longevity
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with an improved quality of life.
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Thank you.
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