Which country does the most good for the world? | Simon Anholt

翻译人员: Winter Wei 校对人员: Yuanqing Edberg

I've been thinking a lot about the world recently

最近我常常思考我们的世界

and how it's changed over the last 20, 30, 40 years.

以及它在过去的20，30，40年里经历了何等的转变

Twenty or 30 years ago,

20或30年前，

if a chicken caught a cold and sneezed and died

如果在东亚一个遥远村落里，一只鸡

in a remote village in East Asia,

患了感冒，打个喷嚏然后死了，

it would have been a tragedy for the chicken

对那只鸡和它的近亲来说

and its closest relatives,

可能是个灾难，

but I don't think there was much possibility

但我想我们不太可能会

of us fearing a global pandemic

因此而担心全球流行病

and the deaths of millions.

和数百万人的死亡。

Twenty or 30 years ago, if a bank in North America

20或30年前，如果北美的一家银行

lent too much money to some people

借出了太多钱

who couldn't afford to pay it back

给那些无力偿还的人

and the bank went bust,

并因此而倒闭了，

that was bad for the lender

只是借贷双方

and bad for the borrower,

运气不好而已，

but we didn't imagine it would bring

但我们不会想到

the global economic system to its knees

这会给全球经济系统带来

for nearly a decade.

将近10年的瘫痪期。

This is globalization.

这就是全球化。

This is the miracle that has enabled us

这就是奇迹，它已经让

to transship our bodies and our minds

我们的身体，我们的头脑、

and our words and our pictures and our ideas

我们的语言、图像以及我们的思想、

and our teaching and our learning around the planet

还有我们的教育和学习都围绕这个星球

ever faster and ever cheaper.

运转得更快、成本更低。

It's brought a lot of bad stuff,

它带来很多坏事，

like the stuff that I just described,

比如我刚才举的例子。

but it's also brought a lot of good stuff.

但它也带来许多好事。

A lot of us are not aware

我们当中很多人并不了解

of the extraordinary successes of the Millennium Development Goals,

千禧年发展目标取得了非凡的成就，

several of which have achieved their targets

有几个远在截止日期之前

long before the due date.

就完成了预定目标。

That proves that this species of humanity

这证明了人类这个物种

is capable of achieving extraordinary progress

能够取得超凡的进展，

if it really acts together and it really tries hard.

如果我们真正地一起合作并努力的话。

But if I had to put it in a nutshell these days,

但如果我简明扼要地说，

I sort of feel that globalization

我觉得全球化有点儿

has taken us by surprise,

让我们措手不及，

and we've been slow to respond to it.

我们对它的回应太慢了。

If you look at the downside of globalization,

如果你看看全球化的负面影响，

it really does seem to be sometimes overwhelming.

有时候的确有点儿难以应付。

All of the grand challenges that we face today,

今天我们面对的所有重大挑战，

like climate change and human rights

像气候变化或人权问题

and demographics and terrorism and pandemics

还有人口问题、恐怖主义和流行病

and narco-trafficking and human slavery

还有毒品走私和奴隶贩卖

and species loss, I could go on,

以及物种灭绝，我可以一直说下去，

we're not making an awful lot of progress

我们在这么多可怕的挑战面前

against an awful lot of those challenges.

并没有取得多么重大进展。

So in a nutshell, that's the challenge

所以简单来说，

that we all face today

这就是我们所有人今天面临的挑战，

at this interesting point in history.

在这个有意思的历史时期。

That's clearly what we've got to do next.

这很明显是我们接下来要做的。

We've somehow got to get our act together

我们要设法共同行动起来

and we've got to figure out how to globalize

我们要想办法如何更好的

the solutions better

解决全球化的问题

so that we don't simply become a species

以至于我们不会沦为

which is the victim of the globalization of problems.

全球化问题中受害的一个种群。

Why are we so slow at achieving these advances?

为什么我们取得进展的速度如此缓慢？

What's the reason for it?

原因是什么？

Well, there are, of course, a number of reasons,

当然，这有许多原因。

but perhaps the primary reason

但也许最首要的原因

is because we're still organized as a species

是我们这个物种的机构组成

in the same way that we were organized

与200或300年前的

200 or 300 years ago.

还是一样。

There's one superpower left on the planet

目前世界上只有一个超能力

and that is the seven billion people,

那就是这7亿人口，

the seven billion of us who cause all these problems,

我们这7亿人，造成了所有这些问题，

the same seven billion, by the way,

但同样的7亿人，

who will resolve them all.

也要解决这些问题。

But how are those seven billion organized?

但这7亿人是怎么组织起来的呢？

They're still organized in 200 or so nation-states,

他们还是由200多个国家或者多民族国家组成，

and the nations have governments

国家都有政府

that make rules

颁布法律

and cause us to behave in certain ways.

并要求我们遵守一定的准则。

And that's a pretty efficient system,

这是一个相当有效的体制，

but the problem is that the way that those laws are made

但问题是这些法律的形成

and the way those governments think

以及政府思考问题的方式

is absolutely wrong for the solution of global problems,

在解决全球问题上是完全错误的，

because it all looks inwards.

因为它只看到国内。

The politicians that we elect

我们选举出来的政治家

and the politicians we don't elect, on the whole,

还有我们没选的政治家，总体来说，

have minds that microscope.

他们的思维方式都是显微镜式的。

They don't have minds that telescope.

他们没有望远镜式的思维。

They look in. They pretend, they behave,

他们只看国内。当他们行作起来的时候就假装

as if they believed that every country was an island

他们在相信好像每个国家都是一座岛屿

that existed quite happily, independently

独立而快乐地

of all the others

存在于自己的小星球

on its own little planet

于他国不无相干，

in its own little solar system.

而是在自己的太阳系里。

This is the problem:

这就是问题所在：

countries competing against each other,

国家间互相竞争，

countries fighting against each other.

国家间互相征战，

This week, as any week you care to look at,

这周，或任何一周，如果你认真看的话，

you'll find people actually trying to kill each other from country to country,

你会发现一个国家和另一个国家的人民在互相残杀，

but even when that's not going on,

就算没有战争，

there's competition between countries,

国家之间也在互相竞争，

each one trying to shaft the next.

每个国家都试图把别国挤下去。

This is clearly not a good arrangement.

这明显不是个良好的形势。

We clearly need to change it.

我们明显需要改变现状。

We clearly need to find ways

我们明显需要找到一些方式

of encouraging countries to start working together

以鼓励国家之间可以

a little bit better.

共同合作得更好。

And why won't they do that?

但他们为什么不这么做呢？

Why is it that our leaders still persist in looking inwards?

为什么我们的领袖还坚持只看着自己呢？

Well, the first and most obvious reason

最主要和最明显的理由

is because that's what we ask them to do.

就是因为那是我们要求他们这么做的。

That's what we tell them to do.

这是我们叫他们做的。

When we elect governments

当我们选举政府的时候

or when we tolerate unelected governments,

或当我们容忍我们没有选的政府的时候，

we're effectively telling them that what we want

我们就是在告诉他们我们想要的

is for them to deliver us in our country

就是让他们在我们的国家

a certain number of things.

带来一系列的举措。

We want them to deliver prosperity,

我们希望他们带来繁荣、

growth, competitiveness, transparency, justice

发展、竞争力、透明度、正义，

and all of those things.

和所有这些事情。

So unless we start asking our governments

所以除非我们要求政府

to think outside a little bit,

看远一点，

to consider the global problems that will finish us all

考虑一下那些会毁灭我们的全球问题，

if we don't start considering them,

如果我们不开始考虑这些事情的话，

then we can hardly blame them

那么我们难以指责他们

if what they carry on doing is looking inwards,

如果他们继续只是关注国家内部的话，

if they still have minds that microscope

如果他们依然只有显微镜的头脑

rather than minds that telescope.

而没有望远镜头脑的话。

That's the first reason why things tend not to change.

这是第一个为什么事情很难改变的原因。

The second reason is that these governments,

第二个原因是这些政府

just like all the rest of us,

就像我们一样，

are cultural psychopaths.

是文化精神变态。

I don't mean to be rude,

我并非要无礼，

but you know what a psychopath is.

但你知道精神变态是什么。

A psychopath is a person who,

一个精神变态者

unfortunately for him or her,

对他／她来说很不幸的，

lacks the ability to really empathize

是缺乏

with other human beings.

对其他人类真正的同情能力。

When they look around,

当他们四下环顾，

they don't see other human beings

他们看到的不是

with deep, rich, three-dimensional personal lives

有深度的、内心丰富的、三维的人生

and aims and ambitions.

以及梦想和雄心。

What they see is cardboard cutouts,

他们看到的是纸片人，

and it's very sad and it's very lonely,

这其实是非常可悲及孤独的，

and it's very rare, fortunately.

但可幸的是这种情况很少见。

But actually, aren't most of us

但事实上，我们大多数人

not really so very good at empathy?

难道不是缺乏同情心吗？

Oh sure, we're very good at empathy

当然，我们非常有同情心

when it's a question of dealing with people

当问题出在那些

who kind of look like us

跟我们长得差不多

and kind of walk and talk and eat and pray

走路、说话和祈祷的方式差不多

and wear like us,

衣着也差不多的人，

but when it comes to people who don't do that,

但当问题出在那些不那样做的人，

who don't quite dress like us

那些跟我们衣着不同的人，

and don't quite pray like us

祈祷方式不同的人，

and don't quite talk like us,

说话方式不同的人，

do we not also have a tendency to see them

我们岂不是倾向于

ever so slightly as cardboard cutouts too?

把他们当成纸片人吗？

And this is a question we need to ask ourselves.

这是我们需要问自己的问题。

I think constantly we have to monitor it.

我认为我们需要不断地监督自己。

Are we and our politicians to a degree

我们和我们的政党某个程度上

cultural psychopaths?

是不是文化精神变态？

The third reason is hardly worth mentioning

第三个原因都不值一提

because it's so silly,

因为它太白痴了，

but there's a belief amongst governments

但政府间有一种想法，

that the domestic agenda

那就是国内事务

and the international agenda

和国际事务

are incompatible and always will be.

是不兼容的，并会一直如此。

This is just nonsense.

这是无稽之谈。

In my day job, I'm a policy adviser.

我的工作是政策顾问。

I've spent the last 15 years or so

我过去的15年左右

advising governments around the world,

都在世界各国的政府里做顾问，

and in all of that time I have never once seen

整个这段时间我从没见过

a single domestic policy issue

任何一个国家政策问题

that could not be more imaginatively,

会不比国际问题

effectively and rapidly resolved

能够更具想像力的、

than by treating it as an international problem,

高效并快捷的解决了。

looking at the international context,

看看国际大环境，

comparing what others have done,

比较其他国家是怎么做的，

bringing in others, working externally

请别人进来，外部合作

instead of working internally.

而不只是内部工作。

And so you may say, well, given all of that,

你可能说，就算这样，

why then doesn't it work?

为什么不奏效呢？

Why can we not make our politicians change?

为什么我们无法让政党改变？

Why can't we demand them?

为什么我们无法要求他们？

Well I, like a lot of us, spend a lot of time complaining

我，就像我们中间许多人，花很多时间抱怨

about how hard it is to make people change,

让人改变有多困难。

and I don't think we should fuss about it.

我不认为我们应该对此小题大作。

I think we should just accept

我觉得我们应该接受

that we are an inherently conservative species.

我们是天生非常保守的种类。

We don't like to change.

我们不喜欢改变。

It exists for very sensible evolutionary reasons.

这种现状的存在是因为非常合理的进化原因

We probably wouldn't still be here today

如果我们不是如此顽固执守的话，

if we weren't so resistant to change.

我们今天很可能不会在这里。

It's very simple: Many thousands of years ago,

很简单：几千年前，

we discovered that if we carried on

我们发现如果我们继续

doing the same things, we wouldn't die,

做同样的事情，我们就死不了。

because the things that we've done before

因为我们以前所做的，

by definition didn't kill us,

肯定让我们生存下去，

and therefore as long as we carry on doing them,

所以只要我们继续这么做，

we'll be okay,

我们就没事，

and it's very sensible not to do anything new,

不去尝试新事物是很合理的，

because it might kill you.

因为新事物可能会杀了你。

But of course, there are exceptions to that.

但当然，也有例外。

Otherwise, we'd never get anywhere.

不然我们就无法前进。

And one of the exceptions, the interesting exception,

一个有趣的例外

is when you can show to people

是当你告诉别人

that there might be some self-interest

满怀信心

in them making that leap of faith

并做出一些改变

and changing a little bit.

是对他们自身有利的时候。

So I've spent a lot of the last 10 or 15 years

所以我在过去的10到15年里

trying to find out what could be that self-interest

试图找到那个

that would encourage not just politicians

可以鼓励不仅是政治家

but also businesses and general populations,

也包括商家和大众的自身利益是什么，

all of us, to start to think a little more outwardly,

我们所有人，开始一点点往远看，

to think in a bigger picture,

想想大局，

not always to look inwards, sometimes to look outwards.

不要总是只顾自己，偶尔也向外（世界）看看。

And this is where I discovered

这时我发现了

something quite important.

一件相当重要的事。

In 2005, I launched a study

2005年，我展开了一项研究

called the Nation Brands Index.

称为“国家品牌指数”。

What it is, it's a very large-scale study that polls

这是一个非常庞大的调查

a very large sample of the world's population,

它从世界人口范围取出庞大样品数据

a sample that represents about 70 percent

这个样本代表了

of the planet's population,

地球人口的70%，

and I started asking them a series of questions

我开始问他们一系列的问题

about how they perceive other countries.

关于他们是如何看待自己国家的。

And the Nation Brands Index over the years

多年来国家品牌指数

has grown to be a very, very large database.

变成了一个非常非常庞大的数据库。

It's about 200 billion data points

它具有大概两千亿数据点

tracking what ordinary people think about other countries

记载了常人是如何看待他们国家的

and why.

以及为什么。

Why did I do this? Well, because the governments that I advise

为什么我要做这件事呢？因为我做顾问的政府

are very, very keen on knowing

非常非常想要知道

how they are regarded.

他们是如何被看待的。

They've known, partly because

他们已经了解到，一半是出于

I've encouraged them to realize it,

我鼓励他们来意识到

that countries depend

国家很大程度上

enormously on their reputations

取决于他们的声誉

in order to survive and prosper in the world.

来决定他们在世界中的生存及繁荣。

If a country has a great, positive image,

如果一个国家有很伟大很正面的形象，

like Germany has or Sweden or Switzerland,

像德国、瑞典或瑞士，

everything is easy and everything is cheap.

所有事情就很容易而东西也会很便宜。

You get more tourists. You get more investors.

你能得到游客，你能得到投资商。

You sell your products more expensively.

你可以高价卖出你的商品。

If, on the other hand, you have a country

另一方面，如果你的国家

with a very weak or a very negative image,

有一个非常弱或负面的形象，

everything is difficult and everything is expensive.

所有事情就变得困难而且东西昂贵。

So governments care desperately

所以政府极度关注

about the image of their country,

国家的形象。

because it makes a direct difference

因为它直接影响到

to how much money they can make,

他们能挣多少钱，

and that's what they've promised their populations

这也是他们向国民所承诺的

they're going to deliver.

他们将给予的。

So a couple of years ago, I thought I would take

所以几年以后，我认为我可以

some time out and speak to that gigantic database

抽出些时间来跟那个庞大的数据库聊聊

and ask it,

问问它，

why do some people prefer one country

为什么有些人更喜欢一个国家

more than another?

相比于另一个国家？

And the answer that the database gave me

数据库给我的答案

completely staggered me.

完全出乎我的意料。

It was 6.8.

答案是6.8。

I haven't got time to explain in detail.

我没时间解释详情。

Basically what it told me was —

基本上它告诉我的是——

(Laughter) (Applause) —

（笑声）（掌声）——

the kinds of countries we prefer are good countries.

我们喜欢的国家是好国家。

We don't admire countries primarily because they're rich,

我们不会因为有些国家富有而爱慕它们，

because they're powerful, because they're successful,

或因为它们有权势，因为它们成功，

because they're modern, because they're technologically advanced.

因为他们现代化，因为他们有先进的科技。

We primarily admire countries that are good.

我们爱慕一个国家因为它们好。

What do we mean by good?

“好”是什么意思？

We mean countries that seem to contribute

我们指的是那些国家

something to the world in which we live,

对我们所居住的世界作出了贡献。

countries that actually make the world safer

那些让世界更安全

or better or richer or fairer.

或更好或富有或更公平的国家。

Those are the countries we like.

这些是我们喜欢的国家。

This is a discovery of significant importance —

这是一个有重大意义的发现——

you see where I'm going —

你知道我要说什么了——

because it squares the circle.

因为它解释了一切。

I can now say, and often do, to any government,

我现在可以说，而且经常说，对任何政府，

in order to do well, you need to do good.

想要做得好，就要做好事。

If you want to sell more products,

如果你想卖更多产品，

if you want to get more investment,

如果你想得到更多投资，

if you want to become more competitive,

如果你想变得更有竞争力，

then you need to start behaving,

那你就得开始好好表现，

because that's why people will respect you

这样人们才会尊重你

and do business with you,

与你展开商务往来，

and therefore, the more you collaborate,

因此，你合作得越多，

the more competitive you become.

你就越有竞争力。

This is quite an important discovery,

这是一个相当重要的发现。

and as soon as I discovered this,

我一发现这一点，

I felt another index coming on.

我感到另一个指数的必要性。

I swear that as I get older, my ideas become simpler

我发誓我年龄越大，我的想法就越简单

and more and more childish.

也会越孩子气。

This one is called the Good Country Index,

这个指数叫好国家指数。

and it does exactly what it says on the tin.

它所做的完全是它的字面意思。

It measures, or at least it tries to measure,

它衡量，起码试图衡量，

exactly how much each country on Earth contributes

地球上每个国家到底贡献了多少

not to its own population but to the rest of humanity.

不是对它本身的国民而是其余的人类。

Bizarrely, nobody had ever thought

奇怪的是，从来没有人想过

of measuring this before.

要来衡量这个。

So my colleague Dr. Robert Govers and I have spent

我的同事Robert Govers博士和我花了

the best part of the last two years,

过去两年的大部分时间，

with the help of a large number of very serious and clever people,

在许多非常认真而聪明的人们的帮助下，

cramming together all the reliable data in the world

搜集了世界上所有

we could find about what countries give

我们能找到的或国家愿意向世界提供

to the world.

的数据。

And you're waiting for me to tell you which one comes top.

你在等我告诉你哪个国家是第一名。

And I'm going to tell you,

我会告诉你，

but first of all I want to tell you

但首先让我告诉你

precisely what I mean

我对于一个好国家

when I say a good country.

的精确定义是什么。

I do not mean morally good.

我并不是说道德上的好。

When I say that Country X

当我说某国家

is the goodest country on Earth,

是世界上最好的国家，

and I mean goodest, I don't mean best.

而且我说的是最好(goodest)，而不是最优秀的(best)。

Best is something different.

最优秀(best)是另一个意思。

When you're talking about a good country,

当你说一个国家是好国家，

you can be good, gooder and goodest.

你可以是好的，更好的，和最好的。

It's not the same thing as good, better and best.

它与优秀的，更优秀的，和最优秀的不同。

This is a country which simply gives more

这是一个单纯贡献更多

to humanity than any other country.

为人类和其他国家的国家。

I don't talk about how they behave at home

我不是说它们在家的行为如何，

because that's measured elsewhere.

因为那是用其他东西来衡量的。

And the winner is

优胜者是

Ireland.

爱尔兰。

(Applause)

（掌声）

According to the data here,

根据数据，

no country on Earth, per head of population,

世界上没有任何一个国家，平均每个人，

per dollar of GDP, contributes more

国内生产总值的每块钱，比爱尔兰

to the world that we live in than Ireland.

给予世界的更多。

What does this mean?

这意味着什么？

This means that as we go to sleep at night,

这意味着每晚我们睡前，

all of us in the last 15 seconds before we drift off to sleep,

我们所有人在睡前的15秒钟，

our final thought should be,

我们最后的一个想法应该是，

godammit, I'm glad that Ireland exists.

该死的，我真为爱尔兰的存在感到庆幸。

(Laughter)

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And that — (Applause) —

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In the depths of a very severe economic recession,

在每场剧烈的经济萧条期，

I think that there's a really important lesson there,

我想这都是一个重要的功课，

that if you can remember your international obligations

如果你能记得你的国际责任，

whilst you are trying to rebuild your own economy,

在你重建本国经济的同时，

that's really something.

那是件了不起的事。

Finland ranks pretty much the same.

芬兰排名差不太多。

The only reason why it's below Ireland

它之所以排在爱尔兰之后

is because its lowest score is lower than Ireland's lowest score.

是因为它的最低分比爱尔兰的最低分低。

Now the other thing you'll notice about the top 10 there

另外一件你注意到的前十名的事情是

is, of course, they're all, apart from New Zealand,

当然，除了新西兰以外，它们都是

Western European nations.

欧州国家。

They're also all rich.

它们也很富有。

This depressed me,

这让我很沮丧，

because one of the things that I did not want

因为我不想在这套数据中

to discover with this index

发现

is that it's purely the province of rich countries

纯粹是富国

to help poor countries.

在帮助穷国。

This is not what it's all about.

这不是这个指数的含义。

And indeed, if you look further down the list,

的确，如果你继续往下看名单，

I don't have the slide here, you will see

我并没有幻灯片，但你会发现

something that made me very happy indeed,

一些让我非常愉快但事情，

that Kenya is in the top 30,

肯尼亚在前30名里，

and that demonstrates one very, very important thing.

这表明了一件非常非常重要但事情。

This is not about money.

这与钱无关。

This is about attitude.

这是态度问题。

This is about culture.

这是文化问题。

This is about a government and a people that care

这是那些政府和人民

about the rest of the world

他们关注世界其他地区

and have the imagination and the courage

并有想像力及勇气

to think outwards instead of only thinking selfishly.

去向外看而不只是自私的考虑自己。

I'm going to whip through the other slides

我会很快的略过其他幻灯片

just so you can see some of the lower-lying countries.

为了让你看到一些排在后面的国家。

There's Germany at 13th, the U.S. comes 21st,

德国第13，美国第21，

Mexico comes 66th,

墨西哥第66，

and then we have some of the big developing countries,

然后我们看到一些发展中国家，

like Russia at 95th, China at 107th.

俄国第95，中国107。

Countries like China and Russia and India,

像中国、俄国、印度这样的国家，

which is down in the same part of the index,

大概在排名在差不多的位置，

well, in some ways, it's not surprising.

从某种意义上来说并不让人吃惊。

They've spent a great deal of time

他们花很多时间

over the last decades building their own economy,

在过去的几十年中建立自己的经济系统，

building their own society and their own polity,

建立他们自己的社会和体系，

but it is to be hoped

但我们希望是，

that the second phase of their growth

他们发展的第二个阶段

will be somewhat more outward-looking

能够比第一阶段

than the first phase has been so far.

更看得远。

And then you can break down each country

然后你可以将每个国家

in terms of the actual datasets that build into it.

按实际多数据集分开看。

I'll allow you to do that.

我会让你这么做。

From midnight tonight it's going to be on goodcountry.org,

从今天半夜开始它会在goodcountry.org上，

and you can look at the country.

你可以看看每个国家。

You can look right down to the level of the individual datasets.

你可以直接看到每个层次的单个数据集。

Now that's the Good Country Index.

这就是好国家指数。

What's it there for?

它有什么目的？

Well, it's there really because I want to try

它存在的目的是因为我想尝试

to introduce this word,

想介绍这个词，

or reintroduce this word, into the discourse.

或重新介绍这个词，在我们的语境中。

I've had enough hearing about competitive countries.

我已经听够了有竞争力的国家。

I've had enough hearing about

我听够了

prosperous, wealthy, fast-growing countries.

繁荣、富有、发展迅速的国家。

I've even had enough hearing about happy countries

我甚至听够了快乐的国家

because in the end that's still selfish.

因为说到底这都是自私的。

That's still about us,

都是关乎我们自己。

and if we carry on thinking about us,

如果我们继续地考虑自己，

we are in deep, deep trouble.

我们就有大麻烦了。

I think we all know what it is

我想我们都知道

that we want to hear about.

我们想听到什么。

We want to hear about good countries,

我们想听到关于好国家，

and so I want to ask you all a favor.

所以我想请求你一件事。

I'm not asking a lot.

我所要求的不多。

It's something that you might find easy to do

对你来说可能很容易

and you might even find enjoyable

你可能也会觉得做这件事很高兴

and even helpful to do,

甚至很有帮助，

and that's simply to start using the word "good"

那就是单纯地开始使用“好”这个词

in this context.

在这个大环境中。

When you think about your own country,

当你想到你自己的国家，

when you think about other people's countries,

当你想到其他人的国家，

when you think about companies,

当你想到公司，

when you talk about the world that we live in today,

当你谈论我们如今所居住的世界，

start using that word

开始用这个词

in the way that I've talked about this evening.

而且是用我们今晚谈论的方式使用。

Not good, the opposite of bad,

不是“坏”的反义词“好”，

because that's an argument that never finishes.

因为这是一个永无完结的争论。

Good, the opposite of selfish,

是“自私”的反义词“好”，

good being a country that thinks about all of us.

好的意思是这个国家为所有人考虑。

That's what I would like you to do,

这是我希望你做的，

and I'd like you to use it as a stick

我希望你用它当一根棍子

with which to beat your politicians.

来鞭策你的政党。

When you elect them, when you reelect them,

当你选举他们或重选他们的时候，

when you vote for them, when you listen

当你为他们投票，听他们说

to what they're offering you,

他们能给你带来什么的时候，

use that word, "good,"

用“好”这个词，

and ask yourself,

并问你自己，

"Is that what a good country would do?"

“这是一个好国家会做的事吗？”

And if the answer is no, be very suspicious.

如果答案是不，那就要持怀疑态度。

Ask yourself, is that the behavior

问你自己，这种行为

of my country?

是我的国家该有的吗？

Do I want to come from a country

我愿意来自于一个

where the government, in my name,

政府以我的名义

is doing things like that?

做这种事情的国家吗？

Or do I, on the other hand,

或者我，从另一方面来说，

prefer the idea of walking around the world

更喜欢在周游世界的时候

with my head held high thinking, "Yeah,

可以抬头挺胸的说，“是的，

I'm proud to come from a good country"?

我很自豪的来自于一个好国家“？

And everybody will welcome you.

每个人都会欢迎你。

And everybody in the last 15 seconds

每个人都会在

before they drift off to sleep at night will say,

他们睡前都15秒钟说，

"Gosh, I'm glad that person's country exists."

“我为这个国家都存在感到骄傲。”

Ultimately, that, I think,

最终，我认为，

is what will make the change.

这是改变的原因。

That word, "good,"

这个词，“好”，

and the number 6.8

还有6.8这个数字

and the discovery that's behind it

还有这背后的发现

have changed my life.

改变了我的人生。

I think they can change your life,

我想它们也能改变你的人生，

and I think we can use it to change

我认为我们能用它来改变

the way that our politicians and our companies behave,

我们的政党和企业的行为，

and in doing so, we can change the world.

这样，我们就可以改变世界。

I've started thinking very differently about

我开始以非常不同的方式考虑

my own country since I've been thinking about these things.

我自己的国家，自从我开始思考这些事情。

I used to think that I wanted to live in a rich country,

我曾经想我会愿意住在一个富有的国家，

and then I started thinking I wanted to live in a happy country,

后来我想我会愿意住在一个快乐的国家，

but I began to realize, it's not enough.

但我开始意识到，这些都不够。

I don't want to live in a rich country.

我不想住在一个富有的国家。

I don't want to live in a fast-growing

我不想住在一个快速发展

or competitive country.

或是竞争力强的国家。

I want to live in a good country,

我想住在一个好国家，

and I so, so hope that you do too.

而且我十分、十分希望你也这么想。

Thank you.

多谢。

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