What does my headscarf mean to you? | Yassmin Abdel-Magied

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翻译人员: HONGYU SONG 校对人员: Elsa Hu
00:13
Someone who looks like me walks past you in the street.
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在街上如果有 看起来和我很像的人经过你身边
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Do you think they're a mother,
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你会认为他们是母亲?
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a refugee
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难民?
00:22
or a victim of oppression?
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还是压迫下的受害者?
00:24
Or do you think they're a cardiologist,
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或者你会认为他们是心脏病专家?
00:26
a barrister
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法庭律师?
00:27
or maybe your local politician?
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或者当地的政客?
00:30
Do you look me up and down,
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你会上下打量我
00:32
wondering how hot I must get
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猜想我该觉得有多热
00:33
or if my husband has forced me to wear this outfit?
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或者我的丈夫是否强迫我穿成这样
00:38
What if I wore my scarf like this?
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如果我把围巾戴成这样呢
00:43
I can walk down the street in the exact same outfit
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我可以装扮得完全一样 走过街道
00:46
and what the world expects of me and the way I'm treated
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周围人对我的看法和态度
00:49
depends on the arrangement of this piece of cloth.
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都取决于我怎么佩戴这块头巾
00:52
But this isn't going to be another monologue about the hijab
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这并不是又一个关于伊斯兰妇女头巾的独白
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because Lord knows, Muslim women are so much more than the piece of cloth
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因为上帝知道 伊斯兰妇女远不是一条头巾就能代表的
00:59
they choose, or not, to wrap their head in.
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无论他们是否选择佩戴
01:03
This is about looking beyond your bias.
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这是一个关于 抛弃个人偏见的问题
01:08
What if I walked past you and later on
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如果我走过你的身旁
01:10
you'd found out that actually I was a race car engineer,
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之后你发现我实际上 是一名赛车工程师
01:13
and that I designed my own race car and I ran my university's race team,
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设计了自己的赛车 组织了自己的大学赛车队呢?
01:17
because it's true.
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因为这是真的
01:19
What if I told you that I was actually trained as a boxer for five years,
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如果我告诉你我其实 做了五年拳击手呢?
01:24
because that's true, too.
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因为这也是事实
01:26
Would it surprise you?
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你会感到惊讶吗?
01:29
Why?
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为什么?
01:31
Ladies and gentlemen, ultimately,
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先生们 女士们 总之
01:33
that surprise and the behaviors associated with it
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你们感到的惊讶 和作出的行为
01:36
are the product of something called unconscious bias,
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是无意识里偏见的产物
01:39
or implicit prejudice.
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或者说 隐形偏见的产物
01:40
And that results in the ridiculously detrimental
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结果这导致了严重有害的后果
01:43
lack of diversity in our workforce,
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那就是 劳动力中多样性的缺乏
01:45
particularly in areas of influence.
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尤其是在具有较强影响力的领域
01:47
Hello, Australian Federal Cabinet.
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嗨 澳大利亚联邦内阁
01:50
(Applause)
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(掌声)
01:52
Let me just set something out from the outset:
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我想先讲讲这个
01:55
Unconscious bias is not the same as conscious discrimination.
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无意识偏见不同于有意识的歧视
01:58
I'm not saying that in all of you, there's a secret sexist or racist
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我并非指在座各位 都是秘密的性别歧视者或种族歧视者
02:02
or ageist lurking within, waiting to get out.
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或年龄歧视者 你们等待着把歧视公之于众
02:04
That's not what I'm saying.
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我并非这个意思
02:06
We all have our biases.
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我们都有自己的偏见
02:08
They're the filters through which we see the world around us.
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偏见是我们观察这个世界的过滤器
02:11
I'm not accusing anyone,
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我不是在指责任何人
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bias is not an accusation.
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偏见并非罪过
02:15
Rather, it's something that has to be identified,
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反而 我们需要意识到这些偏见
02:17
acknowledged and mitigated against.
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承认偏见 减轻偏见
02:21
Bias can be about race,
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偏见可以是关于种族
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it can be about gender.
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可以是关于性别
02:23
It can also be about class, education, disability.
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也可以是关于阶级 教育程度 和残障
02:27
The fact is, we all have biases against what's different,
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事实上 我们都对与众不同的事物抱有偏见
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what's different to our social norms.
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对那些和社会习俗不同的事物 抱有偏见
02:33
The thing is, if we want to live in a world
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问题是 如果我们希望
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where the circumstances of your birth
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自己出身的环境
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do not dictate your future
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不会决定我们的未来
02:41
and where equal opportunity is ubiquitous,
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到处都是平等的机会的话
02:44
then each and every one of us has a role to play
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那么我们每个人都要做出努力
02:47
in making sure unconscious bias does not determine our lives.
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确保无意识偏见 无法决定我们的命运
02:52
There's this really famous experiment in the space of unconscious bias
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曾有一个著名的 关于性别领域中无意识偏见的实验
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and that's in the space of gender in the 1970s and 1980s.
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那是在上世纪七八十年代
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So orchestras, back in the day, were made up mostly of dudes,
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当时的交响乐团大部分都由男性组成
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up to only five percent were female.
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只有5%的女性成员
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And apparently, that was because men played it differently,
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显然 这是因为
03:09
presumably better, presumably.
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人们假设男性成员演奏得更好
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But in 1952, The Boston Symphony Orchestra
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但在1952年 波士顿交响乐团
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started an experiment.
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开始了一项实验
03:17
They started blind auditions.
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他们开始了“盲听”选拔
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So rather than face-to-face auditions, you would have to play behind a screen.
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演奏者在幕布后面演奏 而不是进行面对面的试音
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Now funnily enough,
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非常有趣的是
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no immediate change was registered
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事情并没有立刻发生变化
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until they asked the audition-ers to take their shoes off
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直到演奏者被要求
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before they entered the room.
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在进入试音房间前脱去鞋子
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because the clickity-clack of the heels
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因为光是鞋跟踩在硬木地板上的嗒嗒声
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against the hardwood floors
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was enough to give the ladies away.
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就足以出卖那些女性演奏者
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Now get this,
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于是
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there results of the audition showed
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试音的结果表示
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that there was a 50 percent increased chance
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女性演奏员通过试音前几关的机会
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a woman would progress past the preliminary stage.
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提高了50%
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And it almost tripled their chances of getting in.
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她们最后通过的几率提高了3倍
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What does that tell us?
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这个故事告诉了我们什么呢
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Well, unfortunately for the guys, men actually didn't play differently,
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不幸的是 我得告诉男士们 男性并没有演奏得更好
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but there was the perception that they did.
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只是大家这样以为罢了
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And it was that bias that was determining their outcome.
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正是这种偏见决定了他们的结果
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So what we're doing here is identifying and acknowledging
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所以我们现在要做的就是
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that a bias exists.
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认识到 并且承认 偏见是存在的
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And look, we all do it.
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我们都有
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Let me give you an example.
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让我来举个列子
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A son and his father are in a horrible car accident.
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一个儿子和他的父亲 遭遇了一场可怕的车祸
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The father dies on impact
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父亲当场死亡
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and the son, who's severely injured, is rushed to hospital.
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而身受重伤的儿子 被送去了医院
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The surgeon looks at the son when they arrive and is like,
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当他们到达后 外科医生看着儿子说
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"I can't operate."
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我不能进行手术
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Why?
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为什么呢?
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"The boy is my son."
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这个男孩是我儿子
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How can that be?
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怎么会呢?
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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女士 先生们
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the surgeon is his mother.
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那名外科医生是他的母亲
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Now hands up -- and it's okay --
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现在举手 没有关系
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but hands up if you initially assumed the surgeon was a guy?
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但如果你最假设那名医生是男性的观众请举手。
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There's evidence that that unconscious bias exists,
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有证据表明 无意识偏见是存在的
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but we all just have to acknowledge that it's there
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只是我们需要承认它的存在
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and then look at ways that we can move past it
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并寻求解决方法
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so that we can look at solutions.
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04:54
Now one of the interesting things
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在无意识偏见领域 有一个很有趣的话题
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around the space of unconscious bias is the topic of quotas.
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就是选拔问题
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And this something that's often brought up.
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这是经常会被提到的问题
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And of of the criticisms is this idea of merit.
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被诟病最多的 就是有关优点这一概念
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Look, I don't want to be picked because I'm a chick,
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听着 我不想因为我长得漂亮被挑选
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I want to be picked because I have merit,
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我想因为有能力而被挑选
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because I'm the best person for the job.
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因为我是最适合这份工作的人
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It's a sentiment that's pretty common among female engineers
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这是很多女性工程师都有的想法
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that I work with and that I know.
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至少我共事过的 我认识的都是这样
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And yeah, I get it, I've been there.
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是啊 我理解 我也这样想过
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But, if the merit idea was true,
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但如果真是这样的话
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why would identical resumes, in an experiment done in 2012 by Yale,
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为何在耶鲁大学2012年所做的一个实验中
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identical resumes sent out for a lab technician,
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应聘实验室技术人员时 发出的两份完全相同的简历
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why would Jennifers be deemed less competent,
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会使得面试人认为 约翰比詹妮弗能力更高
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be less likely to be offered the job,
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更有可能得到工作
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and be paid less than Johns.
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得到更高的工资呢
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The unconscious bias is there,
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无意识偏见的确存在
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but we just have to look at how we can move past it.
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只是我们需要想办法克服它
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And, you know, it's interesting,
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而且 有趣的是
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there's some research that talks about
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有过很多研究
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why this is the case and it's called the merit paradox.
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都在讨论这类问题 这被称作优点悖论
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And in organizations -- and this is kind of ironic --
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对很多机构来说 有点讽刺的是
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in organizations that talk about merit being their primary value-driver
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那些声称雇佣人才时
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in terms of who they hire,
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首先考虑应聘者自身价值的机构
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they were more likely to hire dudes and more likely to pay the guys more
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都更倾向于雇佣男性 付给男性更高工资
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because apparently merit is a masculine quality.
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因为优秀显然是男性的特质
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But, hey.
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但是 嘿
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So you guys think you've got a good read on me,
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所以你们以为已经了解我了
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you kinda think you know what's up.
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你们以为你们知道是怎么回事
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Can you imagine me running one of these?
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但你们能想象我来做这件事吗
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Can you imagine me walking in and being like,
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你们能想象我走进屋子 然后说
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"Hey boys, this is what's up. This is how it's done."
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嘿各位 就得这样了 没办法
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Well, I'm glad you can.
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那好吧 我很欣慰你们能想象出来
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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Because ladies and gentlemen, that's my day job.
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因为 女士们 先生们 这就是我每天的工作
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And the cool thing about it is that it's pretty entertaining.
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其中好的一点就是 这做起来挺愉快的
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Actually, in places like Malaysia,
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其实 在马来西亚这类地方
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Muslim women on rigs isn't even comment-worthy.
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船上的穆斯林女人不足为奇
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There are that many of them.
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因为她们比比皆是
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But, it is entertaining.
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但是 有时候挺有趣的
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I remember, I was telling one of the guys,
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我记得 我对一个男人说
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"Hey, mate, look, I really want to learn how to surf."
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嘿 老兄 我真的很想学冲浪
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And he's like, "Yassmin, I don't know how you can surf
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然后他说 Yassmin 我真的不知道你该怎么冲浪
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with all that gear you've got on,
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因为你穿成那样
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and I don't know any women-only beaches."
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而且我也不知道有 只允许女人去的海滩
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And then, the guy came up with a brilliant idea,
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紧接着 这个人想出了一个绝妙的点子
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he was like, "I know, you run that organization
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他说 我知道了 你不是在运营那个组织吗
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Youth Without Borders, right?
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叫 年轻无极限 对吧?
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Why don't you start a clothing line for Muslim chicks in beaches.
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你可以在海滩上 组织一场穆斯林姑娘的时装秀嘛
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You can call it Youth Without Boardshorts."
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你可以管它叫 年轻无泳裤
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And I was like, "Thanks, guys."
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于是我说 谢了 兄弟
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And I remember another bloke telling me that
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我还记得另一个家伙对我说
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I should eat all the yogurt I could
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我可以把能吃到的酸奶都吃了
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because that was the only culture I was going to get around there.
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因为我在那个地方 只能学到这一种文化
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But, the problem is, it's kind of true
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不过 问题是 他说的没什么大错
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because there's an intense lack of diversity in our workforce,
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因为我们的劳动人员队伍 十分缺乏多样性
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particularly in places of influence.
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尤其是在有影响力的领域
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Now, in 2010,
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现在 在2010年时
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The Australian National University did an experiment
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澳大利亚国立大学进行了一项实验
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where they sent out 4,000 identical applications
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他们发出了4000份完全相同的申请
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to entry level jobs, essentially.
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主要是申请一些差不多的工作 结果表明
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To get the same number of interviews as someone with an Anglo-Saxon name,
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如果想得到和有欧美人名字的申请者 一样多的面试机会
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if you were Chinese, you had to send out 68 percent more applications.
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如果你是中国人 你需要多申请68次
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If you were Middle Eastern -- Abdel-Magied --
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如果你是中东人
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you had to send out 64 percent,
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你需要多申请64次
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and if you're Italian, you're pretty lucky,
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如果你是意大利人 还是挺幸运的
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you only have to send out 12 percent more.
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你只需要多申请12次
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In places like Silicon Valley, it's not that much better.
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在硅谷之类的地方 情况也不太乐观
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In Google, they put out some diversity results
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在谷歌 人员构成大概为
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and 61 percent white, 30 percent Asian and nine, a bunch of blacks, Hispanics,
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61%白人 30%亚裔人 9%黑人和西班牙裔人
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all that kind of thing.
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到处都是一样
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And the rest of the tech world is not that much better
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整个科技行业都差不多
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and they've acknowledged it,
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他们已经承认了事实
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but I'm not really sure what they're doing about it.
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但我并不知道 他们打算做点什么
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The thing is, it doesn't trickle up.
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情况并没有好转
08:29
In a study done by Green Park,
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Green Park公司是英国一家 高级酒店连锁集团
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who are a British senior exec supplier,
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它作出的一项研究显示
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they said that over half of the FTSE 100 companies
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富时100指数中超过半数的公司
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don't have a nonwhite leader at their board level,
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其董事层都是完全由白人组成的
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executive or non-executive.
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无论他们有没有执行权
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And two out of every three don't have an executive
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并且在三分之二的公司中 有执行权的董事
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who's from a minority.
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都不是来自少数种族
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And most of the minorities that are at that sort of level
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董事级别的少数族人
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are non-executive board directors.
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大多是非执行董事
08:54
So their influence isn't that great.
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所以他们的权力不大
08:57
I've told you a bunch of terrible things.
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我已经给你们讲了很多坏事了
08:59
You're like, "Oh my god, how bad is that? What can I do about it?"
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你们一定觉得 天呐 这么惨 我能做点什么
09:03
Well, fortunately,
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嗯 好事就是
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we've identified that there's a problem.
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你们已经认识到问题的存在了
09:07
There's a lack of opportunity, and that's due to unconscious bias.
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由于潜意识偏见 很多人失去了机会
09:13
But you might be sitting there thinking,
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但你们可能正在想
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"I ain't brown. What's that got to do with me?"
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反正我是白人 和我有什么关系呢
09:20
Let me offer you a solution.
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我来告诉你吧
09:22
And as I've said before,
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正如我刚才讲的
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we live in a world where we're looking for an ideal.
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我们活在世上 都在追求理想的世界
09:27
And if we want to create a world
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如果我们希望
09:29
where the circumstances of your birth don't matter,
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自己出身的环境 不再那么重要
09:31
we all have to be part of the solution.
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我们都得参与进来 一起解决
09:33
And interestingly, the author of the lab resume experiment
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有趣的是 那个实验室简历实验的作者
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offered some sort of a solution.
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提出了一些解决方案
09:38
She said the one thing that brought the successful women together,
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她说 使成功女性聚在一起的一件事
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the one thing that they had in common,
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成功女性共有的一个特点
09:44
was the fact that they had good mentors.
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就是她们都得到了很好的教导
09:46
So mentoring, we've all kind of heard that before,
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教导 我们差不多都听说过一些
09:49
it's in the vernacular.
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这是方言里的说法
09:52
Here's another challenge for you.
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现在我又要给你们提出一个挑战
09:54
I challenge each and every one of you to mentor someone different.
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我希望你们每人 都来教导一个人
09:59
Think about it.
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想想吧
10:00
Everyone wants to mentor someone who kind of is familiar,
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每个人都想要教导一个熟悉的
10:04
who looks like us,
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10:04
we have shared experiences.
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和我们相似的
有共同经历的人
10:06
If I see a Muslim chick who's got a bit of attitude,
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如果我看见一个穆斯林姑娘 态度还不错
10:09
I'm like, "What's up? We can hang out."
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我可能就会说 怎么样 我们可以一起出去玩
10:10
You walk into a room and there's someone who went to the same school,
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你走进一间屋子 看见屋里有你的校友
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you play the same sports,
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或者你们玩同一种运动
10:15
there's a high chance that you're going to want to help that person out.
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很可能你就会帮助那个人
10:19
But for the person in the room who has no shared experiences with you
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但对于屋子里 和你没有共同经历的人来说
10:22
it becomes extremely difficult to find that connection.
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想要找到那种联系 是极其困难的
10:25
The idea of finding someone different to mentor,
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找一个与你不同的陌生人来教导他
10:27
someone who doesn't come from the same background as you,
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找一个和你背景不同的人
10:30
whatever that background is,
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无论是什么背景
10:31
is about opening doors for people who couldn't even get
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这件事意味着对他人敞开大门
10:35
to the damn hallway.
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虽然他可能离门还有很远
10:38
Because ladies and gentlemen, the world is not just.
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因为女士们 先生们 这个世界是不公平的
10:41
People are not born with equal opportunity.
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人们生来机会便不均等
10:43
I was born in one of the poorest cities in the world, Khartoum.
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我生在世界上最穷的城市之一 喀土穆
10:46
I was born brown, I was born female,
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我是棕色人种 我是女人
10:49
and I was born Muslim in a world that is pretty suspicious of us
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我还是穆斯林 这世界对穆斯林有太多偏见
10:52
for reasons I can't control.
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我控制不了
10:56
However, I also acknowledge the fact that I was born with privilege.
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但是 我也同时承认 我生来带有优势
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I was born with amazing parents,
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我的父母开明
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I was given an education
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我受到良好教育
11:03
and had the blessing of migrating to Australia.
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还有幸移民到澳大利亚
11:06
But also, I've been blessed with amazing mentors
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但与此同时 我还很幸运的遇见了好的指路人
11:08
who've opened doors for me that I didn't even know were there.
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他们甚至还不了解我 就为我打开了门
11:11
A mentor who said to me,
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一位导师曾对我说
11:13
"Hey, your story's interesting.
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嘿 你的故事很有趣
11:14
Let's write something about it so that I can share it with people."
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我们写点什么吧 这样我就能和人们分享了
11:17
A mentor who said,
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另一位导师说
11:18
"I know you're all those things that don't belong on an Australian rig,
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我知道你看起来不像澳大利亚的人
11:22
but come on anyway."
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但还是来吧
11:23
And here I am, talking to you.
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所以我现在才能在这里 和你们说话
11:25
And I'm not the only one.
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我不是唯一一个
11:26
There's all sorts of people in my communities
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在我所处的社会中 有各类人们
11:28
that I see have been helped out by mentors.
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他们都被良师拯救了 我亲眼所见
11:31
A young Muslim man in Sydney
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悉尼的一个年轻穆斯林
11:32
who ended up using his mentor's help
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最后靠着导师的帮助
11:35
to start up a poetry slam in Bankstown
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在班克斯镇创立了一个诗歌会
11:39
and now it's a huge thing.
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现在已经做得很大
11:41
And he's able to change the lives of so many other young people.
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他能够改变许多年轻人的生活
11:44
Or a lady here in Brisbane,
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还有一位布里斯班的女士
11:45
an Afghan lady who's a refugee,
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是一位阿富汗难民
11:47
who could barely speak English when she came to Australia,
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刚来澳大利亚时还不怎么会说英语
11:50
her mentors helped her become a doctor
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她的导师帮助她成为了一名医生
11:52
and she took our Young Queenslander of the Year Award in 2008.
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她还获得了2008年的 年轻昆士兰之星奖
11:55
She's an inspiration.
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她的经历十分鼓舞人
12:02
This is so not smooth.
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虽然她经历了很多困难
12:06
This is me.
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这个人就是我
12:08
But I'm also the woman in the rig clothes,
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但我也是一个穆斯林女人
12:11
and I'm also the woman who was in the abaya at the beginning.
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起初穿着长袍
12:15
Would you have chosen to mentor me if you had seen me
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如果你那时看见那样的我
12:18
in one of those other versions of who I am?
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你会选择成为我的导师吗
12:20
Because I'm that same person.
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因为现在的我和那时的我是同一个人
12:24
We have to look past our unconscious bias,
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我们需要超越自己意识不到的偏见
12:27
find someone to mentor who's at the opposite end of your spectrum
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选择一个最不可能的人来教导
12:30
because structural change takes time,
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因为社会普遍的改变是需要时间的
12:32
and I don't have that level of patience.
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我没有那么多的耐心
12:36
So if we're going to create a change,
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所以如果我们想带来改变
12:38
if we're going to create a world
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让生活在这个世界中的人们
12:40
where we all have those kinds of opportunities,
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都能享有各种各样的机会
12:42
then choose to open doors for people.
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那么就请向他人敞开大门吧
12:44
Because you might think that diversity has nothing to do with you,
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因为你或许认为 多样性和你无关
12:48
but we are all part of this system
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但我们都是多样性系统中的一部分
12:50
and we can all be part of that solution.
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我们也可以一同解决现存的问题
12:52
And if you don't know where to find someone different,
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并且 如果你不知道 该去哪找不一样的人
12:54
go to the places you wouldn't usually go.
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就去你不常去的地方
12:56
If you enroll in private high school tutoring,
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如果你在私立高中上学
12:58
go to your local state school
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就去当地公立学校
13:00
or maybe just drop into your local refugee tutoring center.
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或者去当地难民教育中心看看
13:03
Or perhaps you work at an office.
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如果你在办公室工作
13:05
Take out that new grad who looks totally out of place --
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就教教那个看起来格格不入的 新毕业生
13:08
'cause that was me --
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因为那就像我
13:09
and open doors for them,
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并且为他们敞开大门
13:11
not in a tokenistic way, because we're not victims,
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不只是做做样子而已 因为这对我们没有害处
13:13
but show them the opportunities
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向他们展示机会
13:15
because opening up your world
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因为当你打开你的世界
13:18
will make you realize that you have access to doors
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你会意识到 你所拥有的机会
13:20
that they didn't even know existed
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是他们根本想象不到的
13:22
and you didn't even know they didn't have.
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而你从前并不知道
13:25
Ladies and gentlemen,
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女士们 先生们
13:28
there is a problem in our community with lack of opportunity,
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我们的社会存在着缺乏机会的问题
13:31
especially due to unconscious bias.
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这尤其是无意识偏见造成的
13:33
But each and every one one of you has the potential to change that.
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但你们每个人 都有能力改变它
13:37
I know you've been given a lot of challenges today,
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我知道你们今天已经接受很多挑战了
13:40
but if you can take this one piece and think about it a little differently,
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但希望你能想想这件事 以一种不同的方式思考
13:44
because diversity is magic.
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因为多样性是奇妙的
13:47
And I encourage you to look past your initial perceptions
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此外 我鼓励你们回顾自己 最初的想法
13:51
because I bet you,
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因为我打赌
13:53
they're probably wrong.
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那些想法可能是错的
13:55
Thank you.
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谢谢
13:57
(Applause)
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