Sara Seager: The search for planets beyond our solar system

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Prevodilac: Tijana Mihajlović Lektor: Ivana Krivokuća
00:12
I'm here to tell you about the real search for alien life.
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Ovde sam da vam ispričam o pravoj potrazi za vanzemaljskim životom.
00:16
Not little green humanoids arriving in shiny UFOs,
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Ne o malim zelenim humanoidima koji stižu u svetlucavim NLO-ima,
00:19
although that would be nice.
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iako bi to bilo lepo,
00:21
But it's the search for planets orbiting stars far away.
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već o potrazi za planetama koje kruže oko zvezda, a koje su daleko.
00:25
Every star in our sky is a sun.
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Svaka zvezda na našem nebu je Sunce,
00:27
And if our sun has planets --
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a ako naše Sunce ima planete –
00:29
Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, etc.,
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Merkur, Venera, Zemlja, Mars, i tako dalje,
00:31
surely those other stars should have planets also,
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sigurno je da i druge zvezde treba da imaju svoje planete.
00:34
and they do.
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I imaju.
00:35
And in the last two decades,
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Tokom protekle dve decenije,
00:36
astronomers have found thousands of exoplanets.
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astronomi su otkrili na hiljade egzoplaneta.
00:40
Our night sky is literally teeming with exoplanets.
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Naše noćno nebo je bukvalno prepuno egzoplaneta.
00:43
We know, statistically speaking,
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Znamo da, statistički govoreći,
00:44
that every star has at least one planet.
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svaka zvezda ima bar jednu planetu.
00:47
And in the search for planets,
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U potrazi za planetama
00:49
and in the future, planets that might be like Earth,
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i u budućnosti, za planetama koje mogu biti slične Zemlji,
00:52
we're able to help address
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možemo da se pozabavimo
00:54
some of the most amazing and mysterious questions
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nekim najneverovatnijim i najmisterioznijim pitanjima
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that have faced humankind for centuries.
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sa kojima se ljudska vrsta susretala vekovima.
00:59
Why are we here?
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Zašto smo ovde?
01:01
Why does our universe exist?
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Zašto svemir postoji?
01:03
How did Earth form and evolve?
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Kako je Zemlja nastala i kako se razvila?
01:05
How and why did life originate and populate our planet?
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Kako i zašto je nastao život i nastanio našu planetu?
01:09
The second question that we often think about is:
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Drugo pitanje o kome često mislimo je:
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Are we alone?
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da li smo sami?
01:14
Is there life out there?
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Ima li života tamo negde?
01:17
Who is out there?
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Koga ima tamo?
01:19
You know, this question has been around for thousands of years,
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Znate, ovo pitanje je bilo aktuelno hiljadama godina,
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since at least the time of the Greek philosophers.
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bar od vremena grčkih filozofa.
01:25
But I'm here to tell you just how close we're getting
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Ovde sam da bih vam rekla koliko smo blizu
01:27
to finding out the answer to this question.
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otkrivanja odgovora na ovo pitanje.
01:30
It's the first time in human history that this really is within reach for us.
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Po prvi put u ljudskoj istoriji ovo nam je zaista nadomak ruke.
01:35
Now when I think about the possibilities for life out there,
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Kada razmišljam o mogućnostima da postoji život tamo negde,
01:38
I think of the fact that our sun is but one of many stars.
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mislim na činjenicu da je naše Sunce samo jedna od mnogo zvezda.
01:42
This is a photograph of a real galaxy,
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Ovo je slika prave galaksije,
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we think our Milky Way looks like this galaxy.
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a mislimo da naš Mlečni put izgleda kao ova galaksija.
01:47
It's a collection of bound stars.
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To je skup povezanih zvezda.
01:48
But our [sun] is one of hundreds of billions of stars
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Naše Sunce je jedna od stotine milijardi zvezda,
01:53
and our galaxy is one of upwards of hundreds of billions of galaxies.
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a naša galaksija je jedna među stotinama milijardi galaksija.
01:58
Knowing that small planets are very common,
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Znajući da se male planete veoma često javljaju,
02:01
you can just do the math.
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možete da izračunate,
02:03
And there are just so many stars and so many planets out there,
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a jednostavno ima toliko puno zvezda i toliko puno planeta tamo
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that surely, there must be life somewhere out there.
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da sigurno mora postojati i život tamo negde.
02:11
Well, the biologists get furious with me for saying that,
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Pa, biolozi se veoma naljute na mene kada to kažem
02:14
because we have absolutely no evidence for life beyond Earth yet.
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jer još uvek ne postaje baš nikakvi dokazi o postojanju života van Zemlje.
02:18
Well, if we were able to look at our galaxy from the outside
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Ako bismo mogli da posmatramo našu galaksiju izvana
02:23
and zoom in to where our sun is,
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i da zumiramo mesto gde se Sunce nalazi,
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we see a real map of the stars.
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vidimo pravu mapu zvezda.
02:28
And the highlighted stars are those with known exoplanets.
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Naglašene zvezde su one sa poznatim egzoplanetama.
02:31
This is really just the tip of the iceberg.
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Ovo je zapravo samo vrh ledenog brega.
02:34
Here, this animation is zooming in onto our solar system.
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Ovde animacija zumira naš solarni sistem.
02:38
And you'll see here the planets
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Ovde ćete videti planete,
02:40
as well as some spacecraft that are also orbiting our sun.
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kao i neke letelice koje kruže oko našeg Sunca.
02:44
Now if we can imagine going to the West Coast of North America,
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Ako zamislimo da smo otišli na zapadnu obalu Severne Amerike
02:48
and looking out at the night sky,
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i da posmatramo noćno nebo,
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here's what we'd see on a spring night.
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evo šta bismo videli tokom prolećne večeri.
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And you can see the constellations overlaid
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Možete videti sazvežđa koja se preklapaju
02:54
and again, so many stars with planets.
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i ponovo, toliko mnogo zvezda sa planetama.
02:57
There's a special patch of the sky where we have thousands of planets.
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Postoji poseban deo neba gde imamo na hiljade planeta.
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This is where the Kepler Space Telescope focused for many years.
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To je mesto na koje je mnogo godina fokusirao Keplerov svemirski teleskop.
03:05
Let's zoom in and look at one of the favorite exoplanets.
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Hajde da uveličamo sliku i pogledamo jednu od omiljenih egzoplaneta.
03:10
This star is called Kepler-186f.
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Ova zvezda se naziva Kepler-186f.
03:14
It's a system of about five planets.
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To je sistem od oko pet planeta.
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And by the way, most of these exoplanets, we don't know too much about.
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Uzgred budi rečeno, o većini egzoplaneta ne znamo mnogo.
03:20
We know their size, and their orbit and things like that.
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Znamo njihovu veličinu, orbitu i slične stvari.
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But there's a very special planet here called Kepler-186f.
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Međutim, ovde postoji posebna planeta koja se naziva Kepler-186f.
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This planet is in a zone that is not too far from the star,
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Ova planeta je u pojasu koji nije predaleko od zvezde,
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so that the temperature may be just right for life.
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te tako temperatura može biti odgovarajuća za život.
03:35
Here, the artist's conception is just zooming in
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Evo, umetnička koncepcija upravo uvećava sliku
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and showing you what that planet might be like.
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i pokazuje vam kakva bi ta planeta mogla biti.
03:43
So, many people have this romantic notion of astronomers
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Mnogi ljudi imaju romantičnu predstavu o astronomima
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going to the telescope on a lonely mountaintop
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koji odlaze do teleskopa na usamljenom vrhu planine
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and looking at the spectacular night sky through a big telescope.
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i gledaju u spektakularno noćno nebo kroz veliki teleskop.
03:55
But actually, we just work on our computers like everyone else,
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U stvari, mi samo radimo na našim kompjuterima kao i svi drugi,
03:59
and we get our data by email or downloading from a database.
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a podatke dobijamo i-mejlom ili kroz preuzimanje iz baze podataka.
04:03
So instead of coming here to tell you
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Umesto da dođem ovde i da vam pričam
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about the somewhat tedious nature of the data and data analysis
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o pomalo dosadnim podacima, analizi podataka
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and the complex computer models we make,
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i komplikovanim kompjuterskim modelima koje pravimo,
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I have a different way to try to explain to you
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imam drugačiji način da pokušam da vam objasnim
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some of the things that we're thinking about exoplanets.
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neke od stvari koje mislimo o egzoplanetama.
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Here's a travel poster:
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Evo postera za putovanje:
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"Kepler-186f:
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"Kepler-186f:
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Where the grass is always redder on the other side."
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Mesto gde je trava uvek crvenija na drugoj strani."
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That's because Kepler-186f orbits a red star,
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To je zbog toga što Kepler-186f kruži oko crvene zvezde,
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and we're just speculating that perhaps the plants there,
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a mi samo nagađamo da su možda biljke tamo crvene,
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if there is vegetation that does photosynthesis,
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ako postoji vegetacija koja obavlja fotosintezu;
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it has different pigments and looks red.
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ima drugačije pigmente i izgleda crveno.
04:34
"Enjoy the gravity on HD 40307g,
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"Uživajte u gravitaciji na HD 40307g,
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a Super-Earth."
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na super-Zemlji."
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This planet is more massive than Earth
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Ova planeta je masivnija nego Zemlja
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and has a higher surface gravity.
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i ima jaču površinsku gravitaciju.
04:44
"Relax on Kepler-16b,
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"Opustite se na Kepleru-16b,
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where your shadow always has company."
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gde vaša senka uvek ima društvo."
04:49
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:51
We know of a dozen planets that orbit two stars,
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Znamo za desetak planeta koje kruže oko dve zvezde,
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and there's likely many more out there.
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a verovatno ih ima još mnogo tamo.
04:57
If we could visit one of those planets,
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Ako bismo mogli da posetimo neku od ovih planeta,
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you literally would see two sunsets
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bukvalno biste videli dva zalaska Sunca
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and have two shadows.
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i imali biste dve senke.
05:03
So actually, science fiction got some things right.
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U stvari, naučna fantastika je oko nekih stvari u pravu.
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Tatooine from Star Wars.
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Tatuin iz "Zvezdanih staza".
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And I have a couple of other favorite exoplanets
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Imam još par omiljenih egzoplaneta
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to tell you about.
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o kojima ću vam pričati.
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This one is Kepler-10b,
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Ova je Kepler-10b.
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it's a hot, hot planet.
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To je vrela, vrela planeta.
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It orbits over 50 times closer to its star
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Kruži oko svoje zvezde preko 50 puta bliže
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than our Earth does to our sun.
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nego naša Zemlja oko našeg Sunca.
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And actually, it's so hot,
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U stvari je toliko vrela
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we can't visit any of these planets, but if we could,
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da ne možemo posetiti nijednu od ovih planeta, a da možemo,
istopili bismo se pre nego što bismo stigli tamo.
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we would melt long before we got there.
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05:27
We think the surface is hot enough to melt rock
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Mislimo da je površina dovoljno vrela da otopi stene
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and has liquid lava lakes.
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i da ima tečna jezera lave.
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Gliese 1214b.
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Glis 1214b.
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This planet, we know the mass and the size
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O ovoj planeti znamo njenu masu i veličinu,
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and it has a fairly low density.
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a ima prilično nisku gustinu.
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It's somewhat warm.
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Donekle je topla.
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We actually don't know really anything about this planet,
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U stvari ne znamo ništa o ovoj planeti,
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but one possibility is that it's a water world,
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ali jedna od mogućnosti je da je to vodeni svet,
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like a scaled-up version of one of Jupiter's icy moons
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uvećana verzija jednog od Jupiterovih ledenih Meseca
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that might be 50 percent water by mass.
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koji možda ima do 50 posto vodene mase.
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And in this case, it would have a thick steam atmosphere
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U ovom slučaju, imao bi gustu atmosferu punu pare
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overlaying an ocean,
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koja bi pokrivala okean,
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not of liquid water,
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ne tečne vode,
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but of an exotic form of water, a superfluid --
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več egzotičnog oblika vode, super-tečnosti –
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not quite a gas, not quite a liquid.
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ne baš gas, ali ni tečnost.
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And under that wouldn't be rock,
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Ispod toga ne bi bio kamen,
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but a form of high-pressure ice,
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već led pod visokim pritiskom,
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like ice IX.
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poput leda IX.
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So out of all these planets out there,
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Od svih ovih planeta tamo,
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and the variety is just simply astonishing,
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a raznovrsnost je jednostavno zapanjujuća,
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we mostly want to find the planets that are Goldilocks planets, we call them.
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uglavnom želimo da nađemo planete koje nazivamo planete Zlatokose –
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Not too big, not too small,
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ni prevelike, ni premale,
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not too hot, not too cold --
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ni previše vruće, ni previše hladne,
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but just right for life.
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već odgovarajuće za život.
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But to do that, we'd have to be able to look
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Da bismo to uradili, morali bismo da pregledamo
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at the planet's atmosphere,
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atmosferu planete,
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because the atmosphere acts like a blanket trapping heat --
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jer se atmosfera ponaša kao ćebe koje zarobljava toplotu –
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the greenhouse effect.
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efekat staklene bašte.
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We have to be able to assess the greenhouse gases
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Moramo biti u mogućnosti da procenimo gasove staklene bašte
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on other planets.
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na drugim planetama.
Pa, naučna fantastika nije bila u pravu za neke stvari.
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Well, science fiction got some things wrong.
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06:37
The Star Trek Enterprise
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"Enterprajz" iz "Zvezdanih staza"
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had to travel vast distances at incredible speeds
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morao je da pređe ogromne daljine po neverovatnim brzinama
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to orbit other planets
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da bi napravio krug oko drugih planeta,
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so that First Officer Spock could analyze the atmosphere
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a kako bi prvi oficir Spok mogao da analizira atmosferu
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to see if the planet was habitable
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da bi video da li se planeta može naseliti
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or if there were lifeforms there.
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i da li tamo ima nekih oblika života.
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Well, we don't need to travel at warp speeds
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Pa, ne treba da putujemo nadsvetlosnim brzinama
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to see other planet atmospheres,
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da bismo videli atmosfere drugih planeta,
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although I don't want to dissuade any budding engineers
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iako ne želim da odvratim inženjere u razvoju
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from figuring out how to do that.
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da shvate kako to možemo.
07:02
We actually can and do study planet atmospheres
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U stvari, možemo da proučavamo atmosfere planeta
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from here, from Earth orbit.
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odavde, iz Zemljine orbite.
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This is a picture, a photograph of the Hubble Space Telescope
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Ovo je slika, fotografija svemirskog teleskopa Habl
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taken by the shuttle Atlantis as it was departing
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koju je napravio šatl Atlantis dok je odlazio
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after the last human space flight to Hubble.
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posle poslednje ljudske posete Hablu.
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They installed a new camera, actually,
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Ugradili su, u stvari, novu kameru
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that we use for exoplanet atmospheres.
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koju koristimo za atmosfere egzoplaneta.
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And so far, we've been able to study dozens of exoplanet atmospheres,
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Do sada smo mogli da istražimo desetak atmosfera egzoplaneta,
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about six of them in great detail.
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a šest od njih veoma detaljno.
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But those are not small planets like Earth.
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Međutim, ovo nisu male planete poput Zemlje;
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They're big, hot planets that are easy to see.
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to su velike, vrele planete koje se lako vide.
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We're not ready,
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Nismo spremni
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we don't have the right technology yet to study small exoplanets.
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i još uvek nemamo odgovarajuću tehnologiju da proučavamo male egzoplanete.
07:36
But nevertheless,
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Bez obzira na to,
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I wanted to try to explain to you how we study exoplanet atmospheres.
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želela sam da pokušam da vam objasnim kako proučavamo atmosfere egzoplaneta.
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I want you to imagine, for a moment, a rainbow.
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Želim da na trenutak zamislite dugu.
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And if we could look at this rainbow closely,
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Ako se zagledamo u ovu dugu,
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we would see that some dark lines are missing.
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videli bismo da neke tamne linije nedostaju.
07:51
And here's our sun,
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Evo našeg Sunca.
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the white light of our sun split up,
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Belo svetlo našeg Sunca je razdvojeno
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not by raindrops, but by a spectrograph.
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ne kapima kiše, već spektrografom.
07:56
And you can see all these dark, vertical lines.
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Možete videti i sve ove tamne, vertikalne linije.
07:59
Some are very narrow, some are wide,
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Neke su uske, neke široke,
08:00
some are shaded at the edges.
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a neke imaju zatamnjene ivice.
08:02
And this is actually how astronomers have studied objects in the heavens,
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Ovako su u stvari astronomi proučavali objekte na nebu,
08:06
literally, for over a century.
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bukvalno više od jednog veka.
08:07
So here, each different atom and molecule
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Ovde, dakle, svaki atom i molekul
08:10
has a special set of lines,
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ima poseban niz linija,
08:11
a fingerprint, if you will.
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otisak prsta, ako hoćete.
08:13
And that's how we study exoplanet atmospheres.
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Tako proučavamo atmosfere egzoplaneta.
08:15
And I'll just never forget when I started working
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Nikada neću zaboraviti kada sam počela raditi
08:18
on exoplanet atmospheres 20 years ago,
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na atmosferama egzoplaneta pre 20 godina,
08:20
how many people told me,
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koliko mi je ljudi reklo:
08:21
"This will never happen.
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"Ovo se nikada neće desiti.
08:22
We'll never be able to study them. Why are you bothering?"
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Nikada nećemo moći da ih proučavamo. Zašto se trudiš?"
08:25
And that's why I'm pleased to tell you about all the atmospheres studied now,
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Zato sam srećna što mogu da vam pričam o svim do sada istraženim atmosferama,
a ovo je stvarno zasebno polje.
08:29
and this is really a field of its own.
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08:31
So when it comes to other planets, other Earths,
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Kada pričamo o drugim planetama, drugim Zemljama,
08:33
in the future when we can observe them,
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kada ih u budućnosti budemo posmatrali,
08:35
what kind of gases would we be looking for?
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za kakvim ćemo gasovima tragati?
08:38
Well, you know, our own Earth has oxygen in the atmosphere
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Znate, naša Zemlja ima kiseonik u atmosferi
08:41
to 20 percent by volume.
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do 20 posto zapremine.
08:43
That's a lot of oxygen.
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To je puno kiseonika.
08:45
But without plants and photosynthetic life,
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Međutim, bez biljaka i fotosintetičkog života,
08:48
there would be no oxygen,
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ne bi bilo kiseonika,
08:49
virtually no oxygen in our atmosphere.
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bukvalno nimalo kiseonika u našoj atmosferi.
08:52
So oxygen is here because of life.
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Dakle, kiseonik je ovde zbog života,
08:54
And our goal then is to look for gases in other planet atmospheres,
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a naš cilj je da tražimo gasove u atmosferama drugih planeta,
08:58
gases that don't belong,
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gasove koji ne pripadaju,
09:00
that we might be able to attribute to life.
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a koje bismo mogli da pripišemo životu.
09:02
But which molecules should we search for?
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Ali, koje molekule treba da tražimo?
09:04
I actually told you how diverse exoplanets are.
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Rekla sam vam zapravo koliko su egzoplanete raznovrsne.
09:07
We expect that to continue in the future
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Očekujemo da se to nastavi u budućnosti
09:09
when we find other Earths.
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kada nađemo druge Zemlje.
09:10
And that's one of the main things I'm working on now,
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To je jedna od glavnih stvari na kojima trenutno radim.
09:13
I have a theory about this.
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Imam teoriju o ovome.
09:14
It reminds me that nearly every day,
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To me je podsetilo da skoro svakog dana
09:17
I receive an email or emails
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dobijem mejl ili mejlove
09:19
from someone with a crazy theory about physics of gravity
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od nekoga sa ludom teorijom o fizici, gravitaciji,
09:23
or cosmology or some such.
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kosmologiji ili nečem sličnom.
09:25
So, please don't email me one of your crazy theories.
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Molim vas da mi ne šaljete mejlove sa jednom od vaših ludih teorija.
09:28
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:29
Well, I had my own crazy theory.
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Imala sam sopstvenu ludu teoriju.
09:32
But, who does the MIT professor go to?
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Ali, kome se obraća predavač sa MIT-a?
09:34
Well, I emailed a Nobel Laureate in Physiology or Medicine
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Poslala sam mejl jednom dobitniku Nobelove nagrade
za fiziologiju ili medicinu, a on je rekao:
09:38
and he said, "Sure, come and talk to me."
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"Naravno, svrati da popričamo".
09:40
So I brought my two biochemistry friends
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Povela sam dva prijatelja sa biohemije
09:42
and we went to talk to him about our crazy theory.
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i popričali smo sa njim o našoj ludoj teoriji.
09:45
And that theory was that life produces all small molecules,
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Teorija je da život proizvodi male molekule,
09:48
so many molecules.
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toliko mnogo malih molekula,
09:50
Like, everything I could think of, but not being a chemist.
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sve čega mogu da se setim, a nisam hemičarka.
09:53
Think about it:
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Razmislite o tome:
09:54
carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide,
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ugljen-dioksid, ugljen-monoksid,
09:56
molecular hydrogen, molecular nitrogen,
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molekularni vodonik, molekularni azot,
09:58
methane, methyl chloride --
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metan, metil hlorid –
09:59
so many gases.
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toliko gasova.
10:01
They also exist for other reasons,
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Oni postoje i iz drugih razloga,
10:03
but just life even produces ozone.
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ali i život proizvodi ozon.
10:04
So we go to talk to him about this,
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Tako smo otišli da popričamo sa njim o ovome
10:06
and immediately, he shot down the theory.
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i momentalno nam je oborio teoriju.
10:09
He found an example that didn't exist.
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Našao je primer koji ne postoji.
10:11
So, we went back to the drawing board
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Vratili smo se nacrtima
10:13
and we think we have found something very interesting in another field.
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i mislimo da smo našli nešto veoma interesantno na drugom polju.
10:17
But back to exoplanets,
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Vratimo se egzoplanetama.
10:18
the point is that life produces so many different types of gases,
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Poenta je da život proizvodi toliko različitih gasova,
10:21
literally thousands of gases.
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bukvalno hiljade gasova.
10:24
And so what we're doing now is just trying to figure out
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Sada pokušavamo da shvatimo
10:26
on which types of exoplanets,
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na kojim tipovima egzoplaneta
10:28
which gases could be attributed to life.
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koji gasovi mogu da se pripišu postojanju života.
10:34
And so when it comes time when we find gases
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Kada dođe do toga da pronađemo gasove
10:36
in exoplanet atmospheres
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u atmosferama egzoplaneta,
10:37
that we won't know if they're being produced
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nećemo znati da li ih stvaraju
10:39
by intelligent aliens or by trees,
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inteligentni vanzemaljci, drveće,
10:42
or a swamp,
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ili močvara,
10:44
or even just by simple, single-celled microbial life.
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ili čak veoma jednostavan, jednoćelijski mikrobski život.
10:47
So working on the models
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Dakle, rad na modelima
10:49
and thinking about biochemistry,
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i razmišljanje o biohemiji
10:50
it's all well and good.
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je potpuno u redu,
10:52
But a really big challenge ahead of us is: how?
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ali je ogroman izazov ispred nas: kako?
10:54
How are we going to find these planets?
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Kako ćemo naći ove planete?
Zapravo postoji mnogo načina da se planete nađu;
10:57
There are actually many ways to find planets,
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10:59
several different ways.
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nekoliko različitih načina.
11:00
But the one that I'm most focused on is how can we open a gateway
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Onaj na koji sam najviše usredsređena je kako otvoriti vrata
11:04
so that in the future,
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da bismo u budućnosti
11:05
we can find hundreds of Earths.
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mogli da pronađemo stotine Zemalja.
11:07
We have a real shot at finding signs of life.
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Imamo pravu priliku da pronašemo znakove života.
11:10
And actually, I just finished leading a two-year project
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U stvari, upravo sam završila vođenje dvogodišnjeg projekta
11:13
in this very special phase
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u posebnoj fazi koncepta
11:15
of a concept we call the starshade.
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koji zovemo "Staršejd".
11:18
And the starshade is a very specially shaped screen
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"Staršejd" je specijalno oblikovan paravan,
11:21
and the goal is to fly that starshade
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a cilj je postaviti "Staršejd"
11:23
so it blocks out the light of a star
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da blokira svetlo zvezda
11:26
so that the telescope can see the planets directly.
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da bi teleskop mogao da direktno uoči planete.
11:29
Here, you can see myself and two team members
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Ovde možete videti mene i dva člana tima
11:31
holding up one small part of the starshade.
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kako držimo jedan mali deo "Staršejda".
11:33
It's shaped like a giant flower,
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U obliku je ogromnog cveta,
11:35
and this is one of the prototype petals.
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a ovo je jedna od latica prototipa.
11:38
The concept is that a starshade and telescope could launch together,
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Koncept je da se "Staršejd" i teleskop zajedno lansiraju
11:43
with the petals unfurling from the stowed position.
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sa laticama koje će se otvarati iz zatvorene pozicije.
11:46
The central truss would expand,
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Centralni nosač će se raširiti,
11:48
with the petals snapping into place.
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sa laticama koje će naglo zauzeti svoje mesto.
11:52
Now, this has to be made very precisely,
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Ovo se mora precizno odraditi,
11:54
literally, the petals to microns
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bukvalno, latice do mikrona
11:55
and they have to deploy to millimeters.
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i moraju se postaviti tačno u milimetar.
11:58
And this whole structure would have to fly
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Cela ova struktura bi morala da odleti
12:00
tens of thousands of kilometers away from the telescope.
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desetine hiljada kilometara dalje od teleskopa.
12:04
It's about tens of meters in diameter.
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To je desetine metara u prečniku.
12:06
And the goal is to block out the starlight to incredible precision
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Cilj je da se blokira svetlost zvezda sa neverovatnom preciznošću
12:11
so that we'd be able to see the planets directly.
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kako bismo mogli da direktno vidimo planete.
12:15
And it has to be a very special shape,
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Mora biti posebnog oblika
12:17
because of the physics of defraction.
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zbog fizike defrakcije.
12:19
Now this is a real project that we worked on,
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To je realni projekat na kome smo radili,
12:21
literally, you would not believe how hard.
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bukvalno, ne biste verovali koliko.
12:24
Just so you believe it's not just in movie format,
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Da ne biste mislili da je samo u filmskom formatu,
12:26
here's a real photograph
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evo stvarne fotografije postolja za testiranje
12:28
of a second-generation starshade deployment test bed in the lab.
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odašiljača "Staršejda" druge generacije u laboratoriji.
12:33
And in this case, I just wanted you to know
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U ovom slučaju, samo sam želela da znate
12:35
that that central truss has heritage left over
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da je središnji nosač izrađen od ostataka
12:38
from large radio deployables in space.
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velikih premeštajućih radio antena u svemiru.
12:41
So after all of that hard work
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Posle ovog velikog posla,
12:43
where we try to think of all the crazy gases that might be out there,
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dok pokušavamo da smislimo sve lude gasove koji bi mogli biti tamo
12:46
and we build the very complicated space telescopes
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i dok gradimo komplikovane svemirske teleskope
12:49
that might be out there,
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koji bi mogli biti tamo,
12:51
what are we going to find?
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šta ćemo pronaći?
12:52
Well, in the best case,
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U najboljem slučaju,
12:54
we will find an image of another exo-Earth.
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naći ćemo sliku još jedne egzo-Zemlje.
12:58
Here is Earth as a pale blue dot.
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Evo Zemlje kao blede, plave tačke.
13:00
And this is actually a real photograph of Earth
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Ovo je, u stvari, prava fotografija Zemlje
koju je usnimila letilica "Vojadžer1"
13:03
taken by the Voyager 1 spacecraft,
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sa udaljenosti od oko 6,500 milijardi kilometara.
13:05
four billion miles away.
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13:07
And that red light is just scattered light in the camera optics.
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Crveno svetlo je samo raspršeno svetlo u optici kamere.
13:11
But what's so awesome to consider
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Izuzetno je pomisliti da,
13:13
is that if there are intelligent aliens
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ako postoje inteligenti vanzemaljci
13:16
orbiting on a planet around a star near to us
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na nekoj planeti, koji kruže oko neke zvezde koja je blizu nas
13:20
and they build complicated space telescopes
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i koji grade komplikovane svemirske teleskope
13:22
of the kind that we're trying to build,
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slične onima koje mi pokušavamo da izgradimo,
13:24
all they'll see is this pale blue dot,
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sve što će videti je ova bleda plava tačka,
13:27
a pinprick of light.
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sićušna tačka svetla.
13:29
And so sometimes, when I pause to think
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Ponekad, kada zastanem da razmislim
13:32
about my professional struggle and huge ambition,
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o svojoj profesionalnoj borbi i ogromnoj ambiciji,
13:36
it's hard to think about that
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teško je misliti o tome
13:38
in contrast to the vastness of the universe.
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ako se uporedi sa ogromnom veličinom svemira.
13:42
But nonetheless, I am devoting the rest of my life
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Bez obzira, ja posvećujem ostatak svog života
13:46
to finding another Earth.
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pronalaženju nove Zemlje,
13:48
And I can guarantee
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a mogu da garantujem
13:50
that in the next generation of space telescopes,
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da će sledeća generacija svemirskih teleskopa,
13:52
in the second generation,
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u drugoj generaciji,
13:54
we will have the capability to find and identity other Earths.
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imati sposobnost da pronađe i identifikuje druge Zemlje,
13:59
And the capability to split up the starlight
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kao i sposobnost da razdvoji svetlost zvezda
14:02
so that we can look for gases
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kako bismo mogli da tražimo gasove
14:04
and assess the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere,
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i procenimo gasove staklene bašte u atmosferi,
14:07
estimate the surface temperature,
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procenimo temperaturu površine
14:09
and look for signs of life.
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i tražimo znakove života.
14:11
But there's more.
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Ima još.
14:13
In this case of searching for other planets like Earth,
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U slučaju potrage za drugim planetama kao što je Zemlja
14:16
we are making a new kind of map
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pravimo novu mapu
14:19
of the nearby stars and of the planets orbiting them,
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obližnjih zvezda i planeta koje kruže oko njih,
14:22
including [planets] that actually might be inhabitable by humans.
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uključujući i planete koje bi ljudi mogli nastaniti.
14:26
And so I envision that our descendants,
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Zamišljam naše potomke
14:29
hundreds of years from now,
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za nekoliko stotina godina
14:31
will embark on an interstellar journey to other worlds.
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kako započinju međuzvezdano putovanje do drugih svetova.
14:35
And they will look back at all of us
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Osvrnuće se na nas
14:37
as the generation who first found the Earth-like worlds.
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kao na generaciju koja je prva pronašla svetove nalik Zemlji.
14:41
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
14:42
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
14:49
June Cohen: And I give you, for a question,
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Džun Koen: Predstavljam vam, za pitanje,
14:51
Rosetta Mission Manager Fred Jansen.
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menadžera misije Rozeta, Freda Džensena.
14:53
Fred Jansen: You mentioned halfway through
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Fred Džensen: Negde na polovini pomenuli ste
14:55
that the technology to actually look at the spectrum
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da tehnologija kojom se zapravo gleda u spektar
14:59
of an exoplanet like Earth is not there yet.
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egzoplaneta poput Zemlje još uvek ne postoji.
15:02
When do you expect this will be there,
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Kada očekujete da će se pojaviti
15:04
and what's needed?
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i šta je potrebno?
15:05
Actually, what we expect is what we call our next-generation Hubble telescope.
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Sara Siger: Očekujemo ono što nazivamo sledeća generacija Habl teleskopa.
15:10
And this is called the James Webb Space Telescope,
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Zove se svemirski teleskop Džejms Veb,
15:12
and that will launch in 2018,
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a lansiraće se 2018. godine
15:14
and that's what we're going to do,
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i to je ono što ćemo uraditi –
15:16
we're going to look at a special kind of planet
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tražićemo posebnu vrstu planeta
15:18
called transient exoplanets,
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koje zovemo prelaznim egzoplanetama
15:20
and that will be our first shot at studying small planets
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i to če biti naš prvi korak u proučavanju malih planeta
15:23
for gases that might indicate the planet is habitable.
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i gasova koji mogu ukazati da je planeta naseljiva.
15:27
JC: I'm going to ask you one follow-up question, too, Sara,
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DžK: Postaviću ti još jedno pitanje, Sara,
15:30
as the generalist.
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uopšteno.
15:31
So I am really struck by the notion in your career
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Na mene je ogroman utisak ostavila ideja opozicije
15:34
of the opposition you faced,
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sa kojom si se susrela u karijeri,
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that when you began thinking about exoplanets,
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da je, kada si počela da razmišljaš o egzoplanetama,
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there was extreme skepticism in the scientific community
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postojao ogroman skepticizam u naučnoj zajednici
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that they existed,
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oko njihovog postojanja,
15:42
and you proved them wrong.
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a ti si im dokazala da greše.
15:43
What did it take to take that on?
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Šta je bilo potrebno za borbu s tim?
15:45
SS: Well, the thing is that as scientists,
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SS: Stvar je u tome da naučnici
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we're supposed to be skeptical,
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treba da su skeptični
15:49
because our job to make sure that what the other person is saying
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jer je naš posao da pokažemo da li ima smisla
15:52
actually makes sense or not.
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ono što druga osoba govori.
15:53
But being a scientist,
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Biti naučnik je,
15:56
I think you've seen it from this session,
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a mislim da ste to videli u ovoj sesiji,
15:58
it's like being an explorer.
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kao da ste istraživač.
16:00
You have this immense curiosity,
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Posedujete ogromnu znatiželju,
16:02
this stubbornness,
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tvrdoglavost,
16:03
this sort of resolute will that you will go forward
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odlučnost da nastavite
16:06
no matter what other people say.
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bez obzira na to šta drugi govore.
16:08
JC: I love that. Thank you, Sara.
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DžK: Jako mi se svidelo ovo. Hvala, Sara.
16:09
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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