Drew Curtis: How I beat a patent troll

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Prevodilac: Dejan Vicai Lektor: Mile Živković
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Last January, my company, Fark.com, was sued
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Prošlog januara, moju kompaniju, Fark.com je tužila,
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along with Yahoo, MSN, Reddit,
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pored Jahua, MSN-a, Redit-a,
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AOL, TechCrunch and others
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AOL-a, Tehkranča i drugih,
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by a company called Gooseberry Natural Resources.
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kompanija koja se zove Prirodni resursi Gusberi.
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Gooseberry owned a patent
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Gusberi poseduje patent
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for the creation and distribution
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za stvaranje i distribuciju
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of news releases via email.
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vesti preko elektronske pošte.
00:35
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:38
Now it may seem kind of strange that such a thing can actually be patented,
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Možda deluje čudno da se takva stvar može zapravo patentirati,
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but it does happen all the time.
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ali se to dešava sve vreme,
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Take something already being done
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Uzmite nešto što se već radi
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and patent it for an emerging technology --
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i patentirajte za neku novu tehnologiju -
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like phone calls on the internet
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kao telefonski pozivi preko interneta
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or video listings for TV shows
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ili lista programa za TV emisije
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or radio but for cellphones,
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ili radio ali za mobilne telefone,
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and so on.
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i tako dalje.
00:57
The problem with these patents
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Problemi sa ovim patentima
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is that the mechanisms are obscure
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je to što su im mehanizmi nejasni
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and the patent system is dysfunctional,
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i patentni sistem je nefunkcionalan,
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and as a result, most of these lawsuits end in settlements.
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i kao rezultat, većina tužbi se završi nagodbom.
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And because these settlements are under a non-disclosure agreement,
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Pošto su te nagodbe skopljene pod neotkrivenim okolnostima
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no one knows what the terms were.
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niko ne zna šta su bili uslovi.
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And as a result, the patent troll can claim
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Kao rezultat, patentski bauk može da tvrdi
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that they won the case.
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da su oni dobili slučaj.
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In the case of Gooseberry Natural Resources,
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U slučaju Prirodnih resursa Gusberi,
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this patent on emailing news releases
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patent slanja vesti preko elektronske pošte
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had sort of a fatal flaw
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imao je neku vrstu kobne greške
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as it pertained to myself,
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kako se to odnosilo i na mene,
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and that was that in the mainstream media world
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greška je da u javnom medijskom svetu
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there is only one definition for news release,
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postoji samo jedna definicija za vesti,
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and it turns out that is press release --
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ispostavilo se da je to javna objava -
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as in P.R.
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to jest PR.
01:33
Now my company, Fark,
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Moja kompanija, Fark,
01:35
deals with news, ostensibly,
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bavi se vestima, navodno,
01:37
and as a result
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i kao rezultat
01:39
we were not in violation of this patent.
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nismo kršili zakon tog patenta.
01:41
So case closed, right?
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Rešen slučaj, zar ne?
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Wrong.
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Nipošto.
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One of the major problems with patent law is that,
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Jedan od najvećih problema sa zakonima patenata je,
01:47
in the case that when you are sued by a patent troll,
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da kada vas tuži neki patentski bauk,
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the burden of proof that you did not infringe on the patent
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težina dokaza da niste narušili patent
01:53
is actually on the defendant,
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pada na okrivljenog,
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which means you have to prove
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što znači da morate dokazati
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that you do not infringe on the patent they're suing you on.
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da niste narušili patent zbog kojeg vas tuže.
02:00
And this can take quite a while.
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To može da potraje.
02:03
You need to know that the average patent troll defense
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Morate znati da prosečni patentski bauk
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costs two million dollars
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košta dva miliona dolara
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and takes 18 months when you win.
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i potraje 18 meseci kada pobedite.
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That is your best case outcome
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To je najbolji ishod
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when you get sued by a patent troll.
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kada vas tuži patentski bauk.
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Now I had hoped to team up with some of these larger companies
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Nadao sam se udruživanju sa većim kompanijama
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in order to defend against this lawsuit,
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da se branim protiv ove parnice,
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but one-by-one they settled out of the case,
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ali jedan po jedan su se nagodili,
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even though -- and this is important --
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iako - ovo je važno -
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none of these companies
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nijedna od tih kompanija
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infringed on this patent -- not a one of them.
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nije narušila patent - nijedna od njih.
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And they started settling out.
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Nagodili su se.
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The reason they settled out
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Razlog nagodbi
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is because it's cheaper to settle than to fight the lawsuit --
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je što je jeftinije nagoditi se nego se parničiti -
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clearly, two million dollars cheaper in some cases,
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očigledno je jeftinije za dva miliona dolara u nekim slučajevima,
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and much worse if you actually lose.
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mnogo je gore ako izgubite.
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It would also constitute a massive distraction for management of a company,
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To je takođe velika smetnja rukovodstvu kompanije,
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especially a small eight-man shop like my company.
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posebno malom biznisu sa osam ljudi kao što je moja kompanija.
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Six months into the lawsuit,
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Šest meseci parničenja,
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we finally reached the discovery phase.
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napokon smo stigli do faze otkrivanja.
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And in discovery phase,
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U toj fazi otkrivanja,
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we asked the patent troll to please provide
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zatražili smo od patentskog bauka da predstavi
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screenshots of Fark
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slike Farka
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where the infringement of their patent
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gde se narušavanje njihovih patenata
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was actually occurring.
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zapravo dešava.
03:01
Now perhaps it's because no such screenshots actually existed,
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Možda zbog toga što dotične slike nisu postojale,
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but suddenly Gooseberry wanted to settle.
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Gusberi je odjednom želeo nagodbu.
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Their attorney:
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Njihov advokat:
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"Ah, yes. My company's having a reorganization on our end."
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"Ah, da. Moja kompanija se reorganizuje."
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Never mind the fact
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Zanemarite činjenicu
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that the address led to a strip mall somewhere in Northern L.A.
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da adresa vodi do tržnog centra negde u severnom delu Los Anđelesa
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with no employees.
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bez zaposlenih.
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"And we'd like to go ahead and close this out.
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"Hteli bismo da završimo ovim.
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So would you mind giving us your best and final offer?"
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Da li biste mogli da nam ponudite najbolju i poslednju ponudu?"
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My response:
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Moj odgovor:
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"How about nothing?!"
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"Kako bi bilo ništa?"
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
03:34
We didn't have high hopes for that outcome.
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Nismo se mnogo nadali tom ishodu.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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But they settled.
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Ali su prihvatili.
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No counter offer.
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Nema kontra ponude.
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Now, as mentioned before,
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Kao što je bilo rečeno pre,
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one of the reasons I can talk to you about this
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jedan od razloga što sa vama mogu da pričam o ovome
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is because there's no non-disclosure agreement on this case.
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je to što nema dogovora o neobjavljivanju ovog slučaja.
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Now how did that happen?
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Kako se to dogodilo?
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Well during the settlement process, when we received our copy, I struck it.
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Tokom procesa nagodbe, kada smo primili našu kopiju, otkucao sam.
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My attorney said, "Nah, no chance of that working."
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Moj advokat je rekao: "Nema šanse da to prođe."
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It came back signed.
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Vratili su potpisano.
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Now why? You can call them.
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Zašto? Možete ih zvati.
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They're not under NDA either.
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Nemaju ni ugovor o zaštiti poverljivih podataka.
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Now what did I learn from this case? Well, three things.
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Šta sam naučio iz ovog sluačaja? Tri stvari.
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First of all, if you can,
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Prvo, ako možete,
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don't fight the patent, fight the infringement.
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nemojte se boriti protiv patenta, borite se protiv narušavanja.
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Patents are very difficult to overturn.
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Patente je teško preokrenuti.
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Infringement is a lot easier to disprove.
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Narušavanja je lakše opovrgnuti.
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Secondly, make it clear from the beginning
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Drugo, neka bude jasno od početka
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that either you have no money at all
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da ili nemate novca uopšte
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or that you would rather spend money with your attorney fighting the troll
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ili da biste radije trošili novac na advokata u borbi protiv bauka
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than actually giving them the money.
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nego da im date novac.
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Now the reason this works
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Razlog zašto ovo funkcioniše
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is because patent trolls
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je taj što su patentski bauci
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are paid a percentage of what they're able to recover in settlements.
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plaćeni procentom od sume koju izvuku u nagodbi.
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If it becomes clear to them that they cannot recover any money,
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Kada im postane jasno da ne mogu da izvuku nikakav novac,
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they become less interested in pursuing the case.
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postanu manje zainteresovani da nastave slučaj.
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Finally, make sure that you can tell them
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Naposletku, budite sigurni da im možete reći
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that you will make this process
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da ćete ovaj proces učiniti
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as annoying and as painful
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toliko dosadnim i bolnim
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and as difficult as possible for them.
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i tako teškim za njih koliko je to moguće.
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Now this is a tactic that patent trolls are supposed to use on people
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To je taktika koju bi patentski bauci trebalo da koriste na ljudima
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to get their way.
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da bi pobedili.
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It turns out, because they're paid on contingency,
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Ispostavlja se, zato što su plaćeni po učinku,
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it works really, really well in reverse.
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da ovo radi veoma, veoma lepo i kada se obrne.
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Don't forget that.
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Ne zaboravite to.
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So what does all this mean?
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Šta sve ovo znači?
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Well to sum up,
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Da sumiramo,
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it boils down to one thing:
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sve se svodi na jednu stvar:
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Don't negotiate with terrorists.
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nemojte pregovarati sa teroristima.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
05:13
Patent trolls have done more damage to the United States economy
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Patenski bauci su učinili više štete ekonomiji SAD
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than any domestic or foreign
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nego bilo koja domaća ili strana
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terrorist organization in history
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teroristička organizacija svake godine
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every year.
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u istoriji.
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And what do they do with that money?
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Šta rade sa tim novcem?
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They plow it right back into filing more troll lawsuits.
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Vrate sve nazad da bi mogli da pokrenu više takvih parnica.
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Now this is the point in the Talk
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Ovo je momenat u govoru
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where I'm supposed to come up with some kind of a solution for the patent system.
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gde ja treba da smislim neko rešenje za sistem patenata.
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And the problem with that
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Problem sa time je
05:38
is that there are two very large industry groups
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što postoje dve veoma velike industrijske grupe
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that have different outcomes in mind
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koje imaju različite ishode na umu
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for the patent system.
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za sistem patenata.
05:44
The health care industry
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Industrija zdravstva
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would like stronger protections for inventors.
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bi volela veće mere sigurnosit za ulagače.
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The hi-tech industry
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Tehnološka industrija
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would like stronger protections for producers.
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bi volela veće mere sigurnosti za proizvođače.
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And these goals aren't necessarily diametrically opposed, but they are at odds.
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Ova rešenja nisu nužno u sukobu, ali se ne slažu.
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And as a result, patent trolls can kind of live in the space in between.
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Kao rezultat, patentski bauci mogu da žive u prostoru između.
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So unfortunately I'm not smart enough
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Nažalost, nisam dovoljno pametan
06:01
to have a solution for the patent troll problem.
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da imam rešenje za problem patentskih bauka.
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However, I did have this idea,
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Međutim, imao sam sledeću ideju,
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and it was kind of good.
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i bila je dobra.
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And I thought, "I should patent this."
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I mislio sam: "Trebalo bi da je patentiram."
06:12
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
06:15
Behold, patent infringement via mobile device --
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Gle, narušavanje patenta preko mobilnog uređaja -
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defined as a computer which is not stationary.
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definisan kao računar koji nije stacioniran.
06:24
My solution: award me this patent
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Moje rešenje: dodelite mi ovaj patent
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and I will troll them out of existence.
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a ja ću rešiti postojanje bauka.
06:28
Thank you.
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Hvala.
06:30
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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