Thomas Heatherwick: Building the Seed Cathedral

Translator: Lenka Tušar Reviewer: Tilen Pigac - EFZG

Hello, my name is Thomas Heatherwick.

Pozdravljeni, sem Thomas Heatherwick.

I have a studio in London

V našem arhitekturnem studiu v Londonu

that has a particular approach

se poslužujemo posebnega pristopa

to designing buildings.

k načrtovanju zgradb.

When I was growing up,

V mladih letih

I was exposed to making

sem spoznal ročna dela,

and crafts and materials

obrti, materiale

and invention on a small scale.

in majhne izume.

And I was there looking

Ko sem opazoval

at the larger scale of buildings

večje zgradbe

and finding

in odkril,

that the buildings that were around me

da so zgradbe okrog mene,

and that were being designed

načrtovane in objavljene

and that were there in the publications I was seeing

v publikacijah, ki sem jih bral,

felt soulless and cold.

videti brez duše in mrzle.

And there on the smaller scale,

Stvari v manjšem merilu,

the scale of an earring

kot so uhani,

or a ceramic pot

keramična posoda

or a musical instrument,

ali glasbilo, pa so predstavljale

was a materiality and a soulfulness.

predmetnost in bile polne duše.

And this influenced me.

To je name zelo vplivalo.

The first building I built was 20 years ago.

Načrt za prvo zgradbo sem naredil pred 20 leti.

And since, in the last 20 years,

Od takrat, v zadnjih dvajsetih letih,

I've developed a studio in London.

sem razvil arhitekturni studio v Londonu.

Sorry, this was my mother, by the way,

Mimogrede, to je moja mati

in her bead shop in London.

v njeni trgovini s koraldami v Londonu.

I spent a lot of time counting beads and things like that.

Večkrat sem se zamotil s štetjem korald.

I'm just going to show, for people who don't know my studio's work,

Ljudem, ki ne poznajo dela mojega studia,

a few projects that we've worked on.

bi želel pokazati nekaj naših projektov.

This is a hospital building.

To je bolnišnična zgradba.

This is a shop for a bag company.

To je trgovina podjetja s torbami.

This is studios for artists.

To je umetniški studio.

This is a sculpture

To je postavitev

made from a million yards of wire

iz dobrih 900 km žice

and 150,000 glass beads

in 150.000 steklenih krogel,

the size of a golf ball.

velikih kot žogica za golf.

And this is a window display.

In to je izložbeno okno.

And this is pair of cooling towers

To sta dva stolpa za ohlajanje

for an electricity substation

razdelilne postaje

next to St. Paul's Cathedral in London.

poleg katedrale sv. Pavla v Londonu.

And this is a temple in Japan

To je tempelj na Japonskem

for a Buddhist monk.

za nekega budističnega meniha.

And this is a cafe by the sea

To pa je kavarna

in Britain.

ob morju v Veliki Britaniji.

And just very quickly,

Naj le omenim,

something we've been working on very recently

da se trenutno ukvarjamo s projektom,

is we were commissioned by the mayor of London

za katerega nas je pooblastil londonski župan,

to design a new bus

in sicer z načrtovanjem novega avtobusa,

that gave the passenger

ki bi potnikom

their freedom again.

vrnil svobodo gibanja.

Because the original Routemaster bus

Izvirni rdeči dvonadstropni avtobusi,

that some of you may be familiar with,

ki jih najbrž poznate,

which had this open platform at the back --

z zadnjo odprto dostopno ploščadjo,

in fact, I think all our Routemasters

se namreč sedaj

are here in California now actually.

menda trenutno prevažajo po Kaliforniji.

But they aren't in London.

A ni jih v Londonu.

And so you're stuck on a bus.

Tako potniki obtičijo na avtobusu.

And if the bus is going to stop

Če se avtobus namerava ustaviti,

and it's three yards away from the bus stop,

a je tri metre oddaljen od postajališča,

you're just a prisoner.

ste postali ujetnik.

But the mayor of London wanted to reintroduce

Londonski župan pa je hotel

buses with this open platform.

ponovno uvesti avtobuse z odprto ploščadjo.

So we've been working with Transport for London,

Sodelujemo z londonskim prometnim sistemom,

and that organization

ki pa kot organizacija

hasn't actually been responsible

ni bila v vlogi

as a client for a new bus

naročnika novega avtobusa

for 50 years.

že 50 let.

And so we've been very lucky to have a chance to work.

Zato smo imeli veliko srečo, da pri tem sodelujemo.

The brief is that the bus should use 40 percent less energy.

Namen je bil, da avtobus porabi 40 odstotkov manj energije.

So it's got hybrid drive.

Tako deluje na hibridni pogon.

And we've been working

Ukvarjamo pa se

to try to improve

z izboljšavo vsega,

everything from the fabric

od blaga

to the format

do oblike,

and structure

strukture

and aesthetics.

in videza.

I was going to show four main projects.

Rad bi pokazal štiri glavne projekte.

And this is a project for a bridge.

To je projekt za most.

And so we were commissioned to design a bridge that would open.

Pooblastili so nas za načrtovanje mosta, ki bi se odpiral.

And openings seemed --

Odpiranje mosta je --

everyone loves opening bridges,

ljudem so všeč mostovi, ki se odpirajo,

but it's quite a basic thing.

a vseeno gre za precej preprosto stvar.

I think we all kind of stand and watch.

Vsi takrat nekako obstanemo in gledamo.

But the bridges that we saw

A mostovi, kot jih poznamo,

that opened and closed --

ki se dvigajo in spuščajo,

I'm slightly squeamish --

mi vzbujajo pomisleke...

but I once saw a photograph of a footballer

Nekoč sem videl sliko nogometaša,

who was diving for a ball.

ki se je iztegnil za žogo.

And as he was diving, someone had stamped on his knee,

Med stegovanjem je nekdo pohodil njegovo koleno

and it had broken like this.

in ga zlomil tako.

And then we looked at these kinds of bridges

Nato smo opazovali take mostove

and just couldn't help feeling

in nisem si mogel kaj, a všeč mi je bilo,

that it was a beautiful thing that had broken.

da se je zlomilo.

And so this is in Paddington in London.

To je v Paddingtonu v Londonu.

And it's a very boring bridge, as you can see.

Kot vidite, je zelo suhoparen most,

It's just steel and timber.

zgrajen le iz jekla in lesa.

But instead of what it is,

A mi smo se namesto na videz

our focus was on the way it worked.

osredotočili na način delovanja.

(Applause)

(Aplavz)

So we liked the idea that the two farthest bits of it

Navdušila nas je zamisel, da se dva najbolj

would end up kissing each other.

skrajna konca združita kot pri poljubu.

(Applause)

(Aplavz)

We actually had to halve its speed,

Morali smo prepoloviti njegovo hitrost,

because everyone was too scared when we first did it.

saj so se prvič ljudje preveč prestrašili.

So that's it speeded up.

To je pospešeno odpiranje.

A project that we've been working on very recently

Trenutno se ukvarjamo z načrtovanjem

is to design a new biomass power station --

nove energetske postaje za predelavo biomase,

so a power station that uses organic waste material.

postaje, ki izkorišča organske odpadke.

In the news,

V novicah lahko stalno beremo,

the subject of where our future water is going to come from

od kje bomo v prihodnosti

and where our power is going to come from

pridobivali vodo

is in all the papers all the time.

in energijo.

And we used to be quite proud of the way we generated power.

V preteklosti smo se precej ponašali

But recently,

z našimi načini pridobivanja energije.

any annual report of a power company

Zadnje čase pa letna poročila energetskih podjetij

doesn't have a power station on it.

na naslovnicah nimajo energetske postaje,

It has a child running through a field, or something like that.

pač pa je pogosto to otrok, ki teče po polju.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

And so when a consortium of engineers approached us

Ko se je na nas obrnilo združenje inženirjev

and asked us to work with them on this power station,

z željo, da bi sodelovali pri tej energetski postaji,

our condition was that we would work with them

smo ponudbo sprejeli pod pogojem,

and that, whatever we did,

da bi z njimi sodelovali

we were not just going to decorate a normal power station.

in ne le okrasili običajno energetsko postajo.

And instead, we had to learn -- we kind of forced them to teach us.

Namesto tega smo jih prisilili, da so nas učili.

And so we spent time traveling with them

Tako smo z njimi potovali,

and learning about all the different elements,

se učili o vseh mogočih elementih

and finding that there were plenty of inefficiencies

in videli, da obstaja mnogo neučinkovitosti,

that weren't being capitalized on.

ki niso bile izkoriščene.

That just taking a field and banging all these things out

Zgolj nametana zazidava praznega zemljišča

isn't necessarily the most efficient way that they could work.

ni nujno najučinkovitejši način.

So we looked at how we could compose all those elements --

Želeli smo ugotoviti, kako združiti vse dele

instead of just litter, create one composition.

v celoto, brez videza navlake.

And what we found --

Odkrili smo...

this area is one of the poorest parts of Britain.

To območje je eno revnejših delov Velike Britanije.

It was voted the worst place in Britain to live.

Znano je kot najmanj priljubljen kraj za bivanje.

And there are 2,000 new homes being built

Poleg te energetske postaje

next to this power station.

pa gradijo 2.000 novih domov.

So it felt this has a social dimension.

Občutna je bila torej družbena nota,

It has a symbolic importance.

kar ima simboličen pomen.

And we should be proud of where our power is coming from,

Morali bi biti ponosni na vir naše energije,

rather than something we are necessarily ashamed of.

namesto da se ga sramujemo.

So we were looking at how we could make a power station,

Zanimalo nas je, kako bi ustvarili postajo,

that, instead of keeping people out

ki ljudi ne bi odvračala

and having a big fence around the outside,

ali se od družbe zapirala z visoko ograjo,

could be a place that pulls you in.

pač pa bi privabljala ljudi.

And it has to be --

Poleg tega mora biti --

I'm trying to get my --

poskušam se spomniti --

250 feet high.

visoka slabih 80 metrov.

So it felt that what we could try to do

Prišli smo na idejo,

is make a power park

da bi ustvarili energetski park

and actually bring the whole area in,

in vključili celotno okolico,

and using the spare soil that's there on the site,

z odvečno zemljo z gradbišča

we could make a power station that was silent as well.

pa bi ustvarili tiho energetsko postajo.

Because just that soil

Prav ta zemlja

could make the acoustic difference.

lahko ustvari razliko v akustiki.

And we also found that we could make a more efficient structure

Želeli smo tudi izboljšati strukturno učinkovitost

and have a cost-effective way

in najti stroškovno izvedljiv

of making a structure to do this.

način izvedbe take strukture.

The finished project

Končni projekt naj bi predstavljal

is meant to be more than just a power station.

več kot le energetsko postajo.

It has a space where you could have a bar mitzvah at the top.

Na vrhu je prostor, kjer lahko praznujete bar micvo.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

And it's a power park.

Gre torej za energetski park.

So people can come and really experience this

Ljudje lahko pridejo in ga spoznavajo,

and also look out all around the area,

se razgledujejo po okolici in tako izkoristijo

and use that height that we have to have for its function.

višino postaje, ki je potrebna za obratovanje.

In Shanghai,

V Šanghaj

we were invited to build --

so nas povabili, da zgradimo --

well we weren't invited; what am I talking about.

pravzaprav nas niso povabili, kaj pa govorim.

We won the competition, and it was painful to get there.

Zmagali smo na natečaju, kar res ni bilo lahko.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

So we won the competition to build the U.K. pavilion.

Osvojili smo natečaj za postavitev britanskega pavilijona.

And an expo

Tokratnji Expo

is a totally bonkers thing.

je resnično nora stvar.

There's 250 pavilions.

Obsega 250 pavilijonov.

It's the world's biggest ever expo that had ever happened.

Je največji, kar se jih je odvilo.

So there are up to a million people there everyday.

Vsak dan se na njem tre do milijon obiskovalcev.

And 250 countries all competing.

Vseh 250 držav tekmuje med sabo.

And the British government saying,

Britanska vlada pa nam je naročila,

"You need to be in the top five."

da moramo priti med prvih pet.

And so that became

Tako je to postal

the governmental goal --

vladni cilj,

is, how do you stand out in this chaos,

a kako izstopati v tej zmešnjavi,

which is an expo of stimulus?

v tej razstavi dražljajev?

So our sense was we had to do one thing,

Vedeli smo, da moramo narediti le eno stvar,

and only one thing,

le eno

instead of trying to have everything.

in ne želeti vključiti vsega.

And so what we also felt

Prav tako smo se zavedali, da v nobenem primeru

was that whatever we did we couldn't do a cheesy advert for Britain.

ne smemo narediti zlajnane reklame za VB.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

But the thing that was true,

Pomembno pa je bilo,

the expo was about the future of cities,

da je bila tema Expa prihodnost mest

and particularly the Victorians

in še posebej viktorijanci so bili med prvimi,

pioneered integrating nature into the cities.

ki so v mesta vnesli naravo.

And the world's first public park of modern times

Prvi javni park sodobnega časa

was in Britain.

je bil prav v VB.

And the world's first major botanical institution

Prva večja botanična ustanova

is in London,

je v Londonu,

and they have this extraordinary project

kjer izvajajo izjemen projekt

where they've been collecting 25 percent

zbiranja četrtine

of all the world's plant species.

vseh svetovnih rastlinskih vrst.

So we suddenly realized that there was this thing.

Nenadoma smo odkrili nekaj posebnega.

And everyone agrees that trees are beautiful,

Vsi se strinjamo, da so drevesa čudovita.

and I've never met anyone who says, "I don't like trees."

Nisem še slišal, da jih kdo ne bi maral.

And the same with flowers.

Enako je z rožami. Ne poznam nikogar,

I've never met anyone who says, "I don't like flowers."

ki ne bi maral rož.

But we realized that seeds --

A ugotovili smo, da semena --

there's been this very serious project happening --

kljub temu izjemnemu projektu --

but that seeds --

v teh večjih botaničnih vrtovih

at these major botanical gardens,

pravzaprav niso

seeds aren't on show.

razstavljena za javnost.

But you just have to go to a garden center,

Treba je iti v vrtni center,

and they're in little paper packets.

kjer jih prodajajo v vrečkicah.

But this phenomenal project's been happening.

A hkrati se odvija ta fenomenalen projekt.

So we realized we had to make a project

Spoznali smo, da moramo izvesti

that would be seeds, some kind of seed cathedral.

projekt s semeni, nekakšno semensko katedralo.

But how could we show these teeny-weeny things?

A kako naj pokažemo te drobižke?

And the film "Jurassic Park" actually really helped us.

Zelo nam je pomagal film "Jurski park".

Because the DNA of the dinosaur that was trapped in the amber

DNK dinozavra, ki se je ohranil v jantarju,

gave us some kind of clue

nam je dal zamisel,

that these tiny things

da bi lahko te majcene stvari ujeli

could be trapped and be made to seem precious,

in jim dali videz dragocenosti

rather than looking like nuts.

in ne zgolj preprostih semen.

So the challenge was,

Ključen izziv je bil,

how are we going to bring light and expose these things?

kako jih izpostaviti na svetlobi.

We didn't want to make a separate building and have separate content.

Nismo želeli ločiti zgradbe od vsebine.

So we were trying to think,

Želeli smo torej ugotoviti,

how could we make a whole thing emanate.

kako bi cela zadeva izžarevala.

By the way, we had half the budget of the other Western nations.

Mimogrede, naš proračun je bil pol manjši kot pri ostalih zahodnih državah.

So that was also in the mix

To je bilo treba upoštevati pri prostoru,

with the site the size of a football pitch.

velikem kot nogometno igrišče.

And so there was one particular toy that gave us a clue.

Zamisel nam je dala posebna igrača.

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Thomas Heatherwick: Okay, you get the idea.

Dobro, razumete, kaj želim povedati.

So the idea

Zamislili smo si torej,

was to take these 66,000 seeds

da bi vsakega od teh 66.000 semen,

that they agreed to give us,

ki so nam jih odstopili,

and to take each seed and trap it

posamezno ujeli

in this precious optical hair

v ta dragocen optični las,

and grow that through this box,

ga potegnili skozi ta kvader,

very simple box element,

zelo preprosto kvadrasto konstrukcijo

and make it a building

in tako ustvarili zgradbo,

that could move in the wind.

ki bi se gibala v vetru.

So the whole thing can gently move when the wind blows.

Celotna zadeva se ob vetru nežno giba.

And inside, the daylight --

Znotraj nje pa se dnevna svetloba

each one is an optic

prenaša preko teh optičnih vlaken,

and it brings light into the center.

ki jo iz zunanjosti prenašajo v notranjost.

And by night,

Ponoči pa se

artificial light in each one

skoznje izžareva umetna svetloba

emanates and comes out to the outside.

in odseva navzven.

And to make the project affordable,

Da bi bil projekt cenovno izvedljiv,

we focused our energy.

smo zbrali našo energijo

Instead of building a building as big as the football pitch,

in se namesto zgradbe, velike kot nogometno igrišče,

we focused it on this one element.

osredotočili na ta element.

And the government agreed to do that

Vlada je odobrila ta projekt,

and not do anything else,

brez dodatnih aktivnosti

and focus our energy on that.

in tako smo se osredotočili na to,

And so the rest of the site was a public space.

ostala površina prizorišča pa je postala javni prostor.

And with a million people there a day,

Ob milijonu dnevnih obiskovalcev

it just felt like offering some public space.

se nam je zamisel o javnem prostoru zdela prava.

We worked with an AstroTurf manufacturer

Sodelovali smo s proizvajalcem AstroTurf

to develop a mini-me version

in razvili pomanjšano različico

of the seed cathedral,

semenske katedrale,

so that, even if you're partially-sighted,

tako so lahko tudi slabovidni

that it was kind of crunchy and soft,

zaznali hrapavo, a mehko površino,

that piece of landscape that you see there.

ki pokriva javni prostor, ki ga vidite.

And then, you know when a pet has an operation

Kot, na primer, ko pošljejo vašega ljubljenčka

and they shave a bit of the skin

na operacijo in mu odbrijejo del dlake,

and get rid of the fur --

da lažje opravijo poseg,

in order to get you to go into the seed cathedral,

tako smo tudi mi za lažji dostop v notranjost

in effect, we've shaved it.

dobesedno obrili semensko katedralo.

And inside there's nothing;

Znotraj pa ni ničesar;

there's no famous actor's voice;

nobenih glasov znanega igralca,

there's no projections;

nobenih projekcij,

there's no televisions; there's no color changing.

nobenih televizorjev ali barvnih učinkov.

There's just silence

Znotraj je le tišina

and a cool temperature.

in prijetno hladna temperatura.

And if a cloud goes past,

Ko oblak zakrije sonce,

you can see a cloud on the tips

lahko senco zaznate na konicah vlaken,

where it's letting the light through.

ki prepuščajo svetlobo.

This is the only project that we've done

To je naš edini projekt,

where the finished thing

pri katerem je končni rezultat

looked more like a rendering than our renderings.

videti bolj zasnova kot naše zasnove.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

A key thing was how people would interact.

Ključno je bilo vključevanje ljudi.

I mean, in a way it was the most serious thing

Na nek način je bila to najbolj iskrena stvar,

you could possible do at the expo.

ki jo lahko izvedete na Expu.

And I just wanted to show you.

To bi vam želel pokazati.

The British government --

Britanska vlada oz. katerakoli vlada

any government is potentially the worst client in the world

je lahko najslabša stranka na svetu,

you could ever possibly want to have.

ki bi si jo želeli.

And there was a lot of terror.

Zelo nas je skrbelo.

But there was an underlying support.

A imeli smo resnično podporo.

And so there was a moment

V nekem trenutku

when suddenly -- actually, the next thing.

je nenadoma -- to boste videli zdaj.

This is the head of U.K. Trade and Investment,

To je vodja britanske organizacije za Trgovino in investicije,

who was our client,

ki je bila naša stranka,

with the Chinese children, using the landscape.

skupaj s kitajskimi otroci na površini prizorišča.

(Video) Children: One, two, three, go.

(Video) Otroci: Ena, dve, tri, zdaj!

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

TH: I'm sorry about my stupid voice there.

Opravičujem se za moj trapast smeh.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

So finally, texture is something.

Občutek površine je torej pomemben.

In the projects we've been working on,

Pri naših projektih smo ugotovili,

these slick buildings,

da te gladke zgradbe

where they might be a fancy shape,

resda imajo imenitno obliko,

but the materiality feels the same,

materiali pa so še vedno enaki,

is something that we've been trying to research really,

zato smo to področje želeli raziskati

and explore alternatives.

in poiskati druge možnosti.

And the project that we're building in Malaysia

Projekt, ki ga uresničujemo v Maleziji,

is apartment buildings

so stanovanjske zgradbe

for a property developer.

za nepremičninsko podjetje.

And it's in a piece of land

Območje, na katerem gradi,

that's this site.

je ta prostor.

And the mayor of Kuala Lumpur

Župan Kuala Lumpurja je dejal,

said that, if this developer

da bi v primeru, da investitor

would give something that gave something back to the city,

nekaj ponudi oz. vrne mestu,

they would give them more gross floor area, buildable.

ponudili še več zazidljivih parcel.

So there was an incentive for the developer

To je bila spodbuda za investitorja,

to really try to think about

da začne razmišljati

what would be better for the city.

o ugodnostih za mesto.

And the conventional thing with apartment buildings

Običajno pri stanovanjskih zgradbah

in this part of the world

v tem delu sveta je,

is you have your tower,

da so kot stolp

and you squeeze a few trees around the edge,

z nekaj drevesi, stisnjenih ob vogalu,

and you see cars parked.

in parkiranimi avtomobili.

It's actually only the first couple of floors that you really experience,

Dejansko lahko izkusite le prvih nekaj nadstropij,

and the rest of it is just for postcards.

vse ostalo je za razglednice.

The lowest value is actually the bottom part of a tower like this.

Najmanjšo vrednost ima pravzaprav spodnji del take zgradbe.

So if we could chop that away

Če bi lahko spodnja nadstropja skrčili

and give the building a small bottom,

in ustvarili zgradbo z ozkim dnom,

we could take that bit and put it at the top

bi lahko razširili njen zgornji del,

where the greater commercial value is for a property developer.

ki predstavlja večjo tržno vrednost za investitorja.

And by linking these together,

Ko jih povežemo skupaj,

we could have 90 percent of the site

lahko na 90 odstotkih zemljišča

as a rainforest,

ustvarimo deževni gozd

instead of only 10 percent of scrubby trees

namesto zgolj 10 odstodkov oskubljenih dreves

and bits of road around buildings.

in kosov ceste okrog stavb.

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So we're building these buildings.

Gradimo torej take stavbe.

They're actually identical, so it's quite cost-effective.

Ker je ena enaka drugi, so stroškovno učinkovite.

They're just chopped at different heights.

Le odrezane so na različnih višinah.

But the key part

Ključno pa je,

is trying to give back an extraordinary piece of landscape,

da prostoru vrnemo izjemen del pokrajine,

rather than engulf it.

namesto da ga odvzamemo.

And that's my final slide.

In to je moj zadnji diapozitiv.

Thank you.

Hvala lepa.

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Thank you.

Hvala.

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June Cohen: So thank you. Thank you, Thomas. You're a delight.

June Cohen: Hvala lepa, Thomas. Bilo je čudovito.

Since we have an extra minute here,

Ker imamo še minuto,

I thought perhaps you could tell us a little bit about these seeds,

nam morda lahko poveš kaj več o teh semenih,

which maybe came from the shaved bit of the building.

ki morda prihajajo iz odrezanega dela zgradbe.

TH: These are a few of the tests we did

TH: To so eni od mnogih poskusov

when we were building the structure.

pri gradnji konstrukcije.

So there were 66,000 of these.

Imeli smo torej 66.000 takih.

This optic

Te optične palice

was 22 feet long.

so dolge slabih 7 metrov.

And so the daylight was just coming --

Sončna svetloba se je

it was caught on the outside of the box

zbrala zunaj zgradbe,

and was coming down to illuminate each seed.

prodrla skoznjo in osvetlila vsako seme.

Waterproofing the building was a bit crazy.

Narediti zgradbo odporno na vodo je bilo precej noro.

Because it's quite hard to waterproof buildings anyway,

To je vedno precej težko,

but if you say you're going to drill 66,000 holes in it --

če pa vanjo navrtaš še 66.000 lukenj,

we had quite a time.

je še posebej zanimivo.

There was one person in the contractors who was the right size --

En izvajalec del je bil prave velikosti --

and it wasn't a child --

in ni bil otrok --

who could fit between them

da se je zrinil mednje

for the final waterproofing of the building.

in kot zadnji preveril odpornost zgradbe na vodo.

JC: Thank you, Thomas.

JC: Hvala lepa, Thomas.

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