Wael Ghonim: Inside the Egyptian revolution

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This is Revolution 2.0.
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Toto je revolúcia 2.0.
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No one was a hero. No one was a hero.
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Nikto nebol hrdinom. Nikto.
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Because everyone was a hero.
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Pretože každý bol hrdinom.
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Everyone has done something.
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Každý niečo spravil.
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We all use Wikipedia.
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Všetci používame Wikipédiu.
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If you think of the concept of Wikipedia
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Ak sa zamyslíte nad konceptom Wikipédie,
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where everyone is collaborating on content,
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každý spolupracuje a prispieva k obsahu.
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and at the end of the day
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A napokon
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you've built the largest encyclopedia in the world.
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poskladáte najväčšiu encyklopédiu na svete.
00:41
From just an idea that sounded crazy,
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Z myšlienky, ktorá znela šialene,
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you have the largest encyclopedia in the world.
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máte najväčšiu encyklopédiu na svete.
00:46
And in the Egyptian revolution,
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A v Egyptskej revolúcii,
00:48
the Revolution 2.0,
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revolúcii 2.0,
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everyone has contributed something,
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každý niečím prispel --
00:52
small or big. They contributed something --
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v malom alebo vo veľkom, každý prispel --
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to bring us
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aby nám priniesol
00:57
one of the most inspiring stories
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jeden z najinšpirujúcejších príbehov
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in the history of mankind
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v histórii ľudstva
01:02
when it comes to revolutions.
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čo sa týka revolúcií.
01:04
It was actually really inspiring
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Bolo to skutočne veľmi inšpirujúce
01:06
to see all these Egyptians completely changing.
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vidieť tých všetkých Egypťanov sa úplne meniť.
01:09
If you look at the scene,
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Ak sa pozriete na to miesto, kde sa to celé odohralo,
01:11
Egypt, for 30 years, had been in a downhill --
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Egypt bol 30 rokov v úpadku,
01:14
going into a downhill.
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šiel dole.
01:16
Everything was going bad.
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Všetko bolo zlé.
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Everything was going wrong.
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Všetko šlo nesprávym smerom.
01:21
We only ranked high when it comes to poverty,
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V rebríčkoch sme boli vysoko, len keď sa týkali chudoby,
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corruption,
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korupcie,
01:26
lack of freedom of speech,
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nedostatku slobody prejavu,
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lack of political activism.
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nedostatku politického aktivizmu.
01:30
Those were the achievements
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To boli plody
01:32
of our great regime.
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nášho "úžasného" režimu.
01:36
Yet, nothing was happening.
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A napriek tomu sa nič nedialo.
01:38
And it's not because people were happy
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A nie preto, že by ľudia boli šťastní
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or people were not frustrated.
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alebo neboli frustrovaní.
01:43
In fact, people were extremely frustrated.
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V skutočnosti, ľudia boli až príliš frustrovaní.
01:45
But the reason why everyone was silent
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Ale príčina, prečo bol každý ticho
01:48
is what I call the psychological barrier of fear.
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je tá, ktorú volám "psychologická bariéra strachu".
01:52
Everyone was scared.
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Každý sa bál.
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Not everyone. There were actually a few brave Egyptians
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Vlastne nie každý. Našlo sa zopár odvážnych Egypťanov,
01:56
that I have to thank for being so brave --
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ktorým musím poďakovať za ich odvahu --
01:59
going into protests as a couple of hundred,
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keď niekoľko stoviek z nich protestovalo,
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getting beaten up and arrested.
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a boli zbití a zatknutí.
02:05
But in fact, the majority were scared.
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Ale v skutočnosti, väčšina sa bála.
02:08
Everyone did not want really
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Nikto sa nechcel
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to get in trouble.
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dostať do problému.
02:12
A dictator cannot live without the force.
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Diktátor nemôže žiť bez sily.
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They want to make people live in fear.
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Chcú, aby ľudia žili v strachu.
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And that psychological barrier of fear
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A tá psychologická bariéra strachu
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had worked for so many years,
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fungovali dlhé roky,
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and here comes the Internet,
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až prišiel Internet,
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technology, BlackBerry, SMS.
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technológia, BlackBerry, SMS.
02:29
It's helping all of us to connect.
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Všetkým nám to pomáha spojiť sa.
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Platforms like YouTube, Twitter, Facebook
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Platformy ako YouTube, Twitter, Facebook
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were helping us a lot
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nám veľmi pomohli,
02:38
because it basically gave us the impression that, "Wow, I'm not alone.
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pretože v nás v podstate vytvorili dojem typu, "Wow, nie som sám.
02:41
There are a lot of people who are frustrated."
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Je množstvo ľudí, ktorí sú frustrovaní.
02:43
There are lots of people who are frustrated.
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Je veľa tých, ktorí sú frustrovaní.
02:45
There are lots of people who actually share the same dream.
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Je množstvo ľudí, ktorí majú rovnaký sen
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There are lots of people who care about their freedom.
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Je mnoho ľudí, ktorým záleží na ich slobode.
02:51
They probably have the best life in the world.
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Pravdepodobne majú najlepší život na svete.
02:53
They are living in happiness. They are living in their villas.
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Žijú v šťastí. Žijú vo svojich vilách.
02:56
They are happy. They don't have problems.
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Sú šťastní, nemajú problémy.
02:58
But they are still feeling the pain of the Egyptian.
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Ale stále cítia bolesť Egypťanov.
03:02
A lot of us, we're not really happy
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Väčšina z nás sa necíti šťastne,
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when we see a video of an Egyptian man
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keď vidí video Egypťana,
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who's eating the trash
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ktorý sa živí odpadkami,
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while others are stealing
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zatiaľ čo ostatní kradnú
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billions of Egyptian pounds
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miliardy Egyptských libier
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from the wealth of the country.
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z bohatstva krajiny.
03:14
The Internet has played a great role,
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Internet zohral obrovskú úlohu,
03:16
helping these people to speak up their minds,
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pomáhal týmto ľuďom vysloviť to, čo majú na srdci,
03:19
to collaborate together, to start thinking together.
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spolupracovať, začať rozmýšľať spoločne.
03:22
It was an educational campaign.
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Bola to vzdelávacia kampaň.
03:25
Khaled Saeed was killed
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Khaled Saeed bol zavraždený
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in June 2010.
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v júni 2010.
03:30
I still remember the photo.
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Stále si pamätám na fotku.
03:32
I still remember every single detail of that photo.
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Stále si pamätám každý detail tej fotky.
03:35
The photo was horrible.
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Bola hrozná.
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He was tortured,
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Bol týraný,
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brutally tortured to death.
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brutálne utýraný na smrť.
03:42
But then what was the answer of the regime?
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Ale aká bola odpoveď režimu?
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"He choked on a pile of hash" --
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Zadusil sa hašišom.
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that was their answer:
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To bola ich odpoveď:
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"He's a criminal.
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On je kriminálnik.
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He's someone who escaped from all these bad things."
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On je ten, kto ušiel pred tými zlými vecami."
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But people did not relate to this.
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Ale ľudia sa s tým nestotožnili.
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People did not believe this.
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Neverili tomu.
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Because of the Internet, the truth prevailed
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Vďaka internetu, pravda vyhrala
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and everyone knew the truth.
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a každý poznal pravdu.
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And everyone started to think that "this guy could be my brother."
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A každý začal rozmýšľať nad tým, že "veď ten chlapík mohol byť môj brat."
04:06
He was a middle-class guy.
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Bol to chlap zo strednej vrstvy.
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His photo was remembered by all of us.
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Všetci si pamätáme jeho fotku.
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A page was created.
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Stránka bola vytvorená.
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An anonymous administrator
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Anonymný administrátor
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was basically inviting people to join the page,
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v podstate vyzýval ľudí, aby sa k stránke pripojili,
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and there was no plan.
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a nebol tam žiadny plán.
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"What are we going to do?" "I don't know."
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"Čo budeme robiť?" -- "Neviem".
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In a few days, tens of thousands of people there --
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O pár dní, desiatky tisíc ľudí --
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angry Egyptians
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nahnevaných Egypťanov
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who were asking the ministry of interior affairs,
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žiadali Ministerstvo vnútra,
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"Enough.
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"Dosť.
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Get those who killed this guy.
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Chyťte tých, ktorí zabili toho chlapíka
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To just bring them to justice."
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a priveďte ich pred spravodlivosť."
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But of course, they don't listen.
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Ale samozrejme, oni nepočúvajú.
04:39
It was an amazing story --
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Bol to úžasný príbeh --
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how everyone started feeling the ownership.
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ako každý začal pociťovať vlastníctvo.
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Everyone was an owner in this page.
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Každý bol vlastníkom na tejto stránke.
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People started contributing ideas.
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Ľudia začali písať svoje myšlienky.
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In fact, one of the most ridiculous ideas
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V skutočnosti, jeden z najsmiešnejších nápadov
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was, "Hey, let's have a silent stand.
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bol -- hej, spravme tichý protest.
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Let's get people to go in the street,
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Dostaňme ľudí do ulíc,
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face the sea, their back to the street,
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tak aby stáli čelom k moru, chrbátom k ulici,
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dressed in black, standing up silently for one hour,
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oblečení v čiernom, aby stáli v tichosti jednu hodinu,
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doing nothing and then just leaving,
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nerobili nič a potom len odišli,
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going back home."
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späť domov.
05:06
For some people, that was like, "Wow, silent stand.
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Pre niektorých to bolo -- "Wow, tichý protest.
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And next time it's going to be vibration."
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A nabudúce to bude vibrácia."
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People were making fun of the idea.
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Ľudia sa na tej myšlienke zabávali.
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But actually when people went to the street --
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Ale keď neskôr vyšli do ulíc --
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the first time it was thousands of people
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po prvýkrát to boli tisíce ľudí
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in Alexandria --
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v Alexandrii --
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it felt like -- it was amazing. It was great
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bolo to -- bolo to úžasné. Bolo to super.
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because it connected people from the virtual world,
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Pretože to spojilo ľudí z virtuálneho sveta,
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bringing them to the real world,
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prenieslo ich to do sveta reálneho,
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sharing the same dream,
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všetkých s tým istým snom,
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the same frustration, the same anger,
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rovnakou frustráciou, rovnakým hnevom,
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the same desire for freedom.
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rovnakou túžbou po slobode.
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And they were doing this thing.
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A urobili to.
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But did the regime learn anything? Not really.
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Ale vzal si z toho niečo režim? Ani nie.
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They were actually attacking them.
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V skutočnosti ich napádali.
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They were actually abusing them,
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Nadávali im,
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despite the fact of how peaceful these guys were --
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napriek tomu, že tí ľudia boli veľmi mierumilovní --
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they were not even protesting.
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dokonca ani neprotestovali.
05:46
And things had developed
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A veci sa rozbehli
05:49
until the Tunisian revolution.
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až k Tuniskej revolúcii.
05:52
This whole page was, again,
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Celá stránka bola, zasa,
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managed by the people.
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spravovaná ľuďmi.
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In fact, the anonymous admin job
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V skutočnosti práca anonymného admina
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was to collect ideas,
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bola zozbierať myšlienky,
06:01
help people to vote on them
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pomôcť ľuďom o nich hlasovať
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and actually tell them what they are doing.
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a vysvetliť im, čo vlastne robia.
06:05
People were taking shots and photos;
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Ľudia robili fotky,
06:07
people were reporting violations of human rights in Egypt;
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dokumentovali porušovanie ľudských práv v Egypte,
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people were suggesting ideas,
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navrhovali riešenia,
06:12
they were actually voting on ideas,
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hlasovali za tie návrhy,
06:14
and then they were executing the ideas; people were creating videos.
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a potom vykonávali tie návrhy, tvorili videá.
06:17
Everything was done by the people to the people,
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Všetko robili ľudia pre ľudí,
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and that's the power of the Internet.
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a to je sila Internetu.
06:21
There was no leader.
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Nebol tam žiadny vodca.
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The leader was everyone on that page.
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Vodcom bol každý na tej stránke.
06:26
The Tunisian experiment, as Amir was saying,
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Tuniský experiment, ako Amir vravel,
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inspired all of us, showed us that there is a way.
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nás všetkých inšpiroval, ukázal nám, že je tu cesta.
06:30
Yes we can. We can do it.
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Áno. Zvládneme to.
06:32
We have the same problems;
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Máme tie isté problémy,
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we can just go in the streets.
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môžeme ísť do ulíc.
06:36
And when I saw the street on the 25th,
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A keď som videl ulicu 25. januára,
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I went back and said,
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vrátil som sa a povedal,
06:40
"Egypt before the 25th
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"Egypt po 25-tom,
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is never going to be Egypt after the 25th.
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už nikdy nebude ako Egypt pred 25-tym.
06:44
The revolution is happening.
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Revolúcia sa deje.
06:46
This is not the end,
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Toto nie je koniec,
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this is the beginning of the end."
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toto je začiatok konca."
06:52
I was detained on the 27th night.
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Bol som zadržaný v noci 27-ho.
06:56
Thank God I announced the locations and everything.
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Vďaka bohu som oznámil polohu a všetko.
06:59
But they detained me.
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Ale zadržali ma.
07:01
And I'm not going to talk about my experience, because this is not about me.
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A nebudem rozprávať o mojej skúsenosti, pretože toto nie je o mne.
07:04
I was detained for 12 days,
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Bol som zadržaný na 12 dní,
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blindfolded, handcuffed.
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so zaviazanými očami, spútaný.
07:09
And I did not really hear anything. I did not know anything.
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A nič som nepočul, nič som nevedel.
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I was not allowed to speak with anyone.
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Nemal som dovolené s nikým sa rozprávať.
07:14
And I went out.
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A potom ma pustili.
07:16
The next day I was in Tahrir.
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Nasledujúci deň som bol na Tahrir Square.
07:18
Seriously, with the amount of change I had noticed in this square,
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Vážne, tá zmena, ktorú som si všimol na námestí,
07:21
I thought it was 12 years.
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akoby to bolo 12 rokov.
07:24
I never had in my mind
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Nikdy by mi nenapadlo,
07:26
to see this Egyptian,
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že uvidím takýto Egypt,
07:28
the amazing Egyptian.
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úžasný Egypt.
07:30
The fear is no longer fear.
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Strach už nie je strachom.
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It's actually strength -- it's power.
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Je to v skutočnosti sila -- je to sila.
07:34
People were so empowered.
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Ľudia boli tak posilnení.
07:36
It was amazing how everyone was so empowered
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Bolo úžasné, akú silu každý získal,
07:38
and now asking for their rights.
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a ako sa teraz dožadovali svojich práv.
07:40
Completely opposite.
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Úplný opak.
07:42
Extremism became tolerance.
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Z extrémizmu sa stala tolerancia.
07:45
Who would [have] imagined before the 25th,
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Kto by si to bol predstavil pred 25-tym,
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if I tell you that hundreds of thousands of Christians are going to pray
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ak by som vám povedal, že státisíce kresťanov sa budú modliť
07:50
and tens of thousands of Muslims are going to protect them,
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a desaťtisíce moslimov ich budú chrániť,
07:53
and then hundreds of thousands of Muslims are going to pray
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a potom sa státisíce moslimov pôjdu modliť
07:55
and tens of thousands of Christians are going to protect them --
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a desaťtisíce kresťanov ich budú chrániť --
07:57
this is amazing.
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to je úžasné.
07:59
All the stereotypes
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Všetky stereotypy,
08:01
that the regime was trying to put on us
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ktorý sa režim snažil na nás hodiť
08:04
through their so-called propaganda, or mainstream media,
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cez ich takzvanú propagandu, alebo hlavné média,
08:07
are proven wrong.
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sa ukázali ako nesprávne.
08:09
This whole revolution showed us
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Táto celá revolúcia nám ukázala
08:11
how ugly such a regime was
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ako škaredý tento režim bol
08:14
and how great and amazing
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a ako veľkí a úžasní
08:16
the Egyptian man, the Egyptian woman,
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sú egyptský muž, egyptská žena,
08:19
how simple and amazing these people are
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akí jednoduchí a skvelí títo ľudia sú,
08:21
whenever they have a dream.
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kedykoľvek majú sen.
08:23
When I saw that,
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Keď som to videl,
08:25
I went back and I wrote on Facebook.
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šiel som späť a napísal som na Facebook.
08:28
And that was a personal belief,
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A to bola moja osobná viera,
08:30
regardless of what's going on,
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odhliadnuc od toho čo sa deje,
08:32
regardless of the details.
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odhliadnuc od detailov,
08:34
I said that, "We are going to win.
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Povedal som, "Vyhráme.
08:36
We are going to win because we don't understand politics.
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Vyhráme, pretože nerozumieme tejto politike.
08:39
We're going to win because we don't play their dirty games.
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Vyhráme, pretože nehráme ich špinavé hry.
08:43
We're going to win because we don't have an agenda.
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Vyhráme, pretože nemáme agendu.
08:46
We're going to win because the tears that come from our eyes
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Vyhráme, pretože slzy, ktoré nám tečú z očí
08:49
actually come from our hearts.
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v skutočnosti tečú z našich sŕdc.
08:52
We're going to win because we have dreams.
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Vyhráme, pretože máme sny.
08:55
We're going to win because we are willing to stand up for our dreams."
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Vyhráme, pretože sme ochotní postaviť sa za svoje sny."
08:59
And that's actually what happened. We won.
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A to sa vlastne aj stalo. Vyhrali sme.
09:02
And that's not because of anything,
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A nie je to len tak,
09:04
but because we believed in our dream.
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ale kvôli tomu, že sme verili vo svoj sen.
09:06
The winning here is not
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Výhra nie je
09:08
the whole details of what's going to happen in the political scene.
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o detailoch, ktoré sa udejú na politickej scéne.
09:11
The winning is the winning of the dignity
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Výhra je výhrou dôstojnosti
09:13
of every single Egyptian.
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každého jedného Egypťana.
09:16
Actually, I had this taxi driver telling me,
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Vlastne, jeden taxikár mi vravel,
09:19
"Listen, I am breathing freedom.
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"Počuj, ja dýcham slobodu.
09:22
I feel that I have dignity
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Cítim, že mám dôstojnosť,
09:24
that I have lost for so many years."
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ktorú som stratil pred mnohými rokmi."
09:26
For me that's winning,
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Pre mňa je to výhra,
09:28
regardless of all the details.
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odhliadnuc od detailov.
09:30
My last word to you is a statement I believe in,
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Moje posledné slová sú výrok, ktorému verím,
09:33
which Egyptians have proven to be true,
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a o ktorom Egypťania dokázali, že je pravdivý,
09:36
that the power of the people
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že "moc ľudí
09:38
is much stronger than the people in power.
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je omnoho silnejšia než ľudia pri moci".
09:40
Thanks a lot.
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Ďakujem veľmi pekne.
09:42
(Applause)
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