Before Avatar ... a curious boy | James Cameron

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: MunJeong Kyung ๊ฒ€ํ† : Miryoung Lee
00:15
I grew up on a steady diet of science fiction.
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์ €๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ๊ณต์ƒ ๊ณผํ•™ ์†Œ์„ค์— ๋น ์ ธ ์ง€๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:20
In high school, I took a bus to school
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๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™๊ต ์‹œ์ ˆ์— ์ €๋Š” ๋ฒ„์Šค๋กœ ํ†ตํ•™์„ ํ•˜์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ
00:23
an hour each way every day.
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๋งค์ผ ์™•๋ณต ๋‘ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์”ฉ ๊ฑธ๋ ธ์ฃ .
00:25
And I was always absorbed in a book,
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๊ทธ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ €๋Š” ๋…์„œ ์‚ผ๋งค๊ฒฝ์— ๋น ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:27
science fiction book,
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๊ณต์ƒ ๊ณผํ•™ ์†Œ์„ค์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
00:29
which took my mind to other worlds,
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์ €๋ฅผ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ธ์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š”
00:32
and satisfied, in a narrative form,
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๊ทธ ์ฑ…๋“ค์ด
00:36
this insatiable sense of curiosity that I had.
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๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ค„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ์ €์˜ ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์„ ์ฑ„์›Œ์ฃผ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:41
And you know, that curiosity also manifested itself
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ํ•™๊ต ์ˆ˜์—…์ด ์—†๋Š” ๋‚ ๋งˆ๋‹ค
00:44
in the fact that whenever I wasn't in school
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์ˆฒ์—์„œ ํ•˜์ดํ‚น์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
00:47
I was out in the woods,
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"ํ‘œ๋ณธ"์„ ์ฑ„์ง‘ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ผ๋“ค์ด
00:49
hiking and taking "samples" --
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์ œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ •๋„์˜€๋Š”์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์ฃ .
00:53
frogs and snakes and bugs and pond water --
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๊ฐœ๊ตฌ๋ฆฌ๋‚˜ ๋ฑ€, ๋ฒŒ๋ ˆ๋‚˜ ์—ฐ๋ชป ๋ฌผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„
00:55
and bringing it back, looking at it under the microscope.
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๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋Œ์•„์™€์„œ ํ˜„๋ฏธ๊ฒฝ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:58
You know, I was a real science geek.
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์ „ ์ •๋ง ๊ณผํ•™๋ฐ–์— ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ดด์งœ์˜€๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
01:00
But it was all about trying to understand the world,
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์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์‹œ๋„์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:03
understand the limits of possibility.
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์˜ ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
01:07
And my love of science fiction
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณต์ƒ ๊ณผํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์€
01:11
actually seemed mirrored in the world around me,
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์ œ ์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์„ธ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ˜์˜๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ผ์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ผ์š”.
01:14
because what was happening, this was in the late '60s,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ 60๋…„๋Œ€ ๋ง์€
01:16
we were going to the moon,
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๋‹ฌ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ 
01:19
we were exploring the deep oceans.
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์‹ฌํ•ด ํƒ์‚ฌ์— ๋‚˜์„œ๋˜ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
01:21
Jacques Cousteau was coming into our living rooms
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์žํฌ ์ฟ ์Šคํ† (์—ญ์ž ์ฃผ:ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์˜ ์ „์„ค์  ๋‹ค์ด๋ฒ„)๋Š”
01:24
with his amazing specials that showed us
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•ˆ๋ฐฉ ๊ทน์žฅ์— ๋“ฑ์žฅํ•ด์„œ
01:27
animals and places and a wondrous world
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๊ณณ๊ณณ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์ด๋กœ์šด ์„ธ๊ณ„์™€ ์ƒ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:29
that we could never really have previously imagined.
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์ด์ „์—๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์ƒ์ƒ๋„ ๋ชปํ•œ ์žฅ๋ฉด๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:32
So, that seemed to resonate
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ๋ˆˆ์—๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์ด
01:34
with the whole science fiction part of it.
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๊ณต์ƒ ๊ณผํ•™์ ์ธ ์š”์†Œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:37
And I was an artist.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฒ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€์  ๊ธฐ์งˆ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:39
I could draw. I could paint.
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๊ทธ๋ฆผ๋„ ์ž˜ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ์ƒ‰์น ๋„ ์ž˜ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:41
And I found that because there weren't video games
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์š”์ฆ˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด๋‚˜ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ์œผ๋กœ ๋„๋ฐฐํ•œ ์˜ํ™”์—์„œ
01:44
and this saturation of CG movies and all of this
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ํ”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋“ค์„
01:48
imagery in the media landscape,
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๋‹น์‹œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
01:51
I had to create these images in my head.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฑธ ์ œ ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:53
You know, we all did, as kids having to
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ฆด ์ ์—๋Š”
01:55
read a book, and through the author's description,
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์ฑ…์—์„œ ๋ณธ ์ž‘๊ฐ€๋“ค์˜ ํ‘œํ˜„์„
01:58
put something on the movie screen in our heads.
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๋จธ๋ฆฟ์† ์Šคํฌ๋ฆฐ์— ๊ทธ๋ ค๋ณด์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ์ž–์•„์š”.
02:02
And so, my response to this was to paint, to draw
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋“ค์„ ์ง์ ‘ ๊ทธ๋ ธ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
02:05
alien creatures, alien worlds,
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์™ธ๊ณ„ ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด, ์™ธ๊ณ„ ์„ธ์ƒ,
02:07
robots, spaceships, all that stuff.
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๋กœ๋ด‡, ์šฐ์ฃผ์„  ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„์š”.
02:09
I was endlessly getting busted in math class
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์ˆ˜ํ•™ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๋ฉด ๊ต๊ณผ์„œ ๋’ค์— ์ˆจ์–ด์„œ
02:12
doodling behind the textbook.
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๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๋ผ์ ์ด๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:15
That was -- the creativity
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ ์•ˆ์˜ ์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์ด
02:18
had to find its outlet somehow.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ๋“  ๋ฐฐ์ถœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๋Š” ์‹œ๋„์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:22
And an interesting thing happened: The Jacques Cousteau shows
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:25
actually got me very excited about the fact that there was
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์ง€๊ตฌ ์ƒ์— ์™ธ๊ณ„ ์„ธ์ƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ์žํฌ ์ฟ ์Šคํ† ์˜ ์‡ผ๋Š”
02:28
an alien world right here on Earth.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ํฅ๋ถ„์‹œํ‚ค๊ณค ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
02:30
I might not really go to an alien world
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ์ฃผ์„ ์„ ํƒ€๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์™ธ๊ณ„ ์„ธ์ƒ์—
02:33
on a spaceship someday --
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๊ฐ€๋ณด๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ผ์š”.
02:35
that seemed pretty darn unlikely.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฐ€๋ง์ด ์—†์–ด ๋ณด์˜€๊ณ ์š”.
02:38
But that was a world I could really go to,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค€ ๊ณณ๋“ค์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง„์งœ ๊ฐ€๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด์ž–์•„์š”.
02:40
right here on Earth, that was as rich and exotic
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์ง€๊ตฌ ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”. ๊ณต์ƒ๊ณผํ•™ ์†Œ์„ค๋“ค์„ ์ฝ์œผ๋ฉฐ
02:42
as anything that I had imagined
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์ƒ์ƒํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ทธ ์–ด๋–ค ์žฅ๋ฉด๋ณด๋‹ค๋„
02:45
from reading these books.
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๋‹ค์ฑ„๋กญ๊ณ  ์ด๊ตญ์ ์ธ ๋ชจ์Šต์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:47
So, I decided I was going to become a scuba diver
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ 15์‚ด์— ์Šค์ฟ ๋ฒ„๋‹ค์ด๋ฒ„๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋กœ
02:49
at the age of 15.
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๊ฒฐ์‹ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:51
And the only problem with that was that I lived
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๊ทธ ๊ฟˆ์„ ์ด๋ฃจ๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋”ฑ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:53
in a little village in Canada,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์บ๋‚˜๋‹ค ๋‚ด๋ฅ™์˜ ์ž‘์€ ๋งˆ์„์— ์‚ฐ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:55
600 miles from the nearest ocean.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๋ฐ”๋‹ค๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด๋ด์•ผ 600๋งˆ์ผ์ด๋‚˜ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:58
But I didn't let that daunt me.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์— ํ’€ ์ฃฝ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
03:00
I pestered my father until he finally found
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์ €๋Š” ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ์กธ๋ผ๋Œ”์ฃ .
03:03
a scuba class in Buffalo, New York,
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ตญ๊ฒฝ ๋„ˆ๋จธ์— ์žˆ๋Š”
03:05
right across the border from where we live.
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๋‰ด์š• ์ฃผ ๋ฒ„ํŒ”๋กœ์˜ ์Šค์ฟ ๋ฒ„๋‹ค์ด๋น™ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์ฐพ์•„ ์ค„ ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€์š”.
03:07
And I actually got certified
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์„œ ๋งˆ์นจ๋‚ด ์ž๊ฒฉ์ฆ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:10
in a pool at a YMCA in the dead of winter
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ํ•œ๊ฒจ์šธ, ๋‰ด์š•์ฃผ ๋ฒ„ํŒ”๋กœ์˜
03:12
in Buffalo, New York.
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ํ•œ YMCA ํšŒ๊ด€ ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์—์„œ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:14
And I didn't see the ocean, a real ocean,
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๊ทธ ํ›„๋กœ๋„ ์บ˜๋ฆฌํฌ๋‹ˆ์•„๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€
03:17
for another two years,
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2๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ
03:19
until we moved to California.
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์ง„์งœ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:21
Since then, in the intervening
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๊ทธ ์ดํ›„ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€
03:24
40 years,
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40๋…„์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์„ธ์›” ๋™์•ˆ
03:26
I've spent about 3,000 hours underwater,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌผ ์†์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ์•ฝ 3,000์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๊ฐ€๋Ÿ‰์ด๊ณ ,
03:30
and 500 hours of that was in submersibles.
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๊ทธ ์ค‘ 500์‹œ๊ฐ„์€ ์ž ์ˆ˜ํ•จ์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:33
And I've learned that that deep-ocean environment,
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๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ์‹ฌํ•ด ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด๊ณ 
03:36
and even the shallow oceans,
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์–•์€ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค์—๋„
03:38
are so rich with amazing life
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๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ๋„˜์ณ๋‚œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:42
that really is beyond our imagination.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ƒ์ƒ๋ ฅ์„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜๋Š” ์กด์žฌ๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
03:45
Nature's imagination is so boundless
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์ž์—ฐ์˜ ์ƒ์ƒ๋ ฅ์€
03:49
compared to our own
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์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋นˆ์•ฝํ•œ ์ƒ์ƒ๋ ฅ์— ๋น„ํ•˜๋ฉด
03:51
meager human imagination.
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์‹ค๋กœ ๋์ด ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:53
I still, to this day, stand in absolute awe
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์ €๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ์ž ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋ฉด
03:55
of what I see when I make these dives.
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์ œ ์•ž์— ํŽผ์ณ์ง€๋Š” ํ’๊ฒฝ์— ์ ˆ๋Œ€์  ๊ฒฝ์™ธ์‹ฌ์„ ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:58
And my love affair with the ocean is ongoing,
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๋ฐ”๋‹ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์€ ํ˜„์žฌ์ง„ํ–‰ํ˜•์ด๊ณ ,
04:01
and just as strong as it ever was.
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์ฒ˜์Œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ•œ ๊ฐ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:03
But when I chose a career as an adult,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋˜์–ด์„œ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ์ง์—…์€
04:06
it was filmmaking.
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์˜ํ™” ์ œ์ž‘์ž์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:09
And that seemed to be the best way to reconcile
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๊ทธ ์ง์—…์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ ค์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ €์˜ ์š•๊ตฌ์™€
04:12
this urge I had to tell stories
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์ด๋ฏธ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์š•๋ง์„
04:14
with my urges to create images.
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์กฐํ™”์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์ฃ .
04:18
And I was, as a kid, constantly drawing comic books, and so on.
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์ €๋Š” ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ์ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ค„๊ณง ๋งŒํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ค์™”์–ด์š”.
04:21
So, filmmaking was the way to put pictures and stories
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ํ•œ ๋งˆ๋””๋กœ ์˜ํ™”์ œ์ž‘์€ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ๊ณผ ์ค„๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ์น˜๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
04:23
together, and that made sense.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„œ ์ผ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ ํƒ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:25
And of course the stories that I chose to tell
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ๋ฅธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์€
04:28
were science fiction stories: "Terminator," "Aliens"
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๊ณต์ƒ๊ณผํ•™๋ฌผ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ . "ํ„ฐ๋ฏธ๋„ค์ดํ„ฐ", "์—์ด๋ฆฌ์–ธ",
04:30
and "The Abyss."
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"์–ด๋น„์Šค" ๊ฐ™์€ ์˜ํ™” ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
04:32
And with "The Abyss," I was putting together my love
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"์–ด๋น„์Šค"์—๋Š” ๊นŠ์€ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค์™€ ์ž ์ˆ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
04:35
of underwater and diving with filmmaking.
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์ œ ์• ์ •์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‹ด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:37
So, you know, merging the two passions.
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๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์—ด์ •์„ ํ•œ๋ฐ ํ•ฉ์นœ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
04:40
Something interesting came out of "The Abyss,"
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"์–ด๋น„์Šค"๋ฅผ ์ œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ํ•œ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋ถ€๋”ชํ˜”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:44
which was that to solve a specific narrative
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์ค„๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ ์ƒ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ์„œ์‚ฌ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ
04:47
problem on that film,
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ํ’€์–ด๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
04:50
which was to create this kind of liquid water creature,
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์•ก์ฒด๋กœ ๋œ ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
04:54
we actually embraced computer generated animation, CG.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ์• ๋‹ˆ๋ฉ”์ด์…˜, ์ฆ‰ CG ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๋„์ž…ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
05:00
And this resulted in the first soft-surface
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์ƒ ์ตœ์ดˆ๋กœ CG๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด
05:05
character, CG animation
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๋ถ€๋“œ๋Ÿฌ์šด ํ‘œ๋ฉด์˜ ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:08
that was ever in a movie.
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์˜ํ™” ์‚ฌ์ƒ ์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ CG ์• ๋‹ˆ๋ฉ”์ด์…˜์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:10
And even though the film didn't make any money --
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์ด ์˜ํ™”๋กœ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
barely broke even, I should say --
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ฒจ์šฐ ๋ณธ์ „๋งŒ ์ฐพ์•˜์„ ์ •๋„์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ์š”
05:15
I witnessed something amazing, which is that the audience,
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์ €๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ ์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:17
the global audience, was mesmerized
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ๊ด€๊ฐ๋“ค์ด
05:19
by this apparent magic.
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์ด ๋ช…๋ฐฑํ•œ ๋งˆ์ˆ ์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋น ์ ธ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹จ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
05:21
You know, it's Arthur Clarke's law
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์•„์„œ ํด๋ผํฌ์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด
05:23
that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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๊ณ ๋„๋กœ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•œ ํ…Œํฌ๋†€๋กœ์ง€๋Š” ๋งˆ์ˆ ๊ณผ ๊ตฌ๋ถ„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์ง€์š”.
05:27
They were seeing something magical.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งˆ์น˜ ๋งˆ์ˆ ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:30
And so that got me very excited.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์ €๋ฅผ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ€์Šด ๋›ฐ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:33
And I thought, "Wow, this is something that needs to be embraced
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์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์šฐ์™€, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์€ ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์˜ํ™” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์—
05:35
into the cinematic art."
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๋„์ž…๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ฒ ๊ตฌ๋‚˜."
05:37
So, with "Terminator 2," which was my next film,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์˜ํ™”์ธ "ํ„ฐ๋ฏธ๋„ค์ดํ„ฐ 2"์—์„œ
05:39
we took that much farther.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•œ์ธต ๋” ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:41
Working with ILM, we created the liquid metal dude
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ILM๊ณผ ์ผํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ ์•ก์ฒด ๊ธˆ์† ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”.
05:44
in that film. The success hung in the balance
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์˜ํ™”์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณต ์—ฌ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ทธ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ตฌํ˜„๋˜๋Š๋ƒ์—
05:46
on whether that effect would work.
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๋‹ฌ๋ ค์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:48
And it did, and we created magic again,
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ž˜ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ . ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋งˆ๋ฒ•์„ ์ผ๊ณ 
05:50
and we had the same result with an audience --
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๊ด€๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ „์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ˜ธ์‘ํ•ด์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:52
although we did make a little more money on that one.
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๋ˆ์€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋ฒŒ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ์š”.
05:54
So, drawing a line through those two dots
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๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ•œ ์ค„๋กœ
05:59
of experience
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์ด์–ด์„œ
06:02
came to, "This is going to be a whole new world,"
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์„ธ์ƒ,
06:04
this was a whole new world of creativity
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์˜ํ™” ์˜ˆ์ˆ ๊ฐ€๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ฐฝ์กฐ์„ฑ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ง€ํ‰์ด
06:06
for film artists.
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์—ด๋ฆฐ ์…ˆ์ด์ฃ .
06:09
So, I started a company with Stan Winston,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์Šคํƒ  ์œˆ์Šคํ„ด๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์„ธ์› ์–ด์š”.
06:11
my good friend Stan Winston,
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์ €์˜ ์ ˆ์นœํ•œ ๋ฒ—์ธ ์Šคํƒ  ์œˆ์Šคํ„ด์€
06:13
who is the premier make-up and creature designer
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๋‹น๋Œ€ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋ถ„์žฅ ๋ฐ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์ณ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ,
06:17
at that time, and it was called Digital Domain.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ๋„๋ฉ”์ธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ง€์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:20
And the concept of the company was
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ์ปจ์…‰์€
06:22
that we would leapfrog past
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๊ด‘ํ•™ ํ”„๋ฆฐํ„ฐ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์˜
06:25
the analog processes of optical printers and so on,
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์•„๋‚ ๋กœ๊ทธ์ ์ธ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜์–ด
06:28
and we would go right to digital production.
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๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ์ œ์ž‘์œผ๋กœ ๊ณง์žฅ ์ง„์ž…ํ•˜์ž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:30
And we actually did that and it gave us a competitive advantage for a while.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด๋ƒˆ๊ณ , ์ด๋กœ์จ ํ•œ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์˜ ์šฐ์œ„์— ์„ฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:34
But we found ourselves lagging in the mid '90s
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ 90๋…„๋Œ€ ์ค‘๋ฐ˜๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋’ค์ณ์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
06:37
in the creature and character design stuff
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์• ์‹œ๋‹น์ดˆ ์ด ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์„ธ์šด ๋ชฉ์ ์ธ
06:40
that we had actually founded the company to do.
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์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ์™€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์ณ ๋””์ž์ธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
06:43
So, I wrote this piece called "Avatar,"
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์ €๋Š” "์•„๋ฐ”ํƒ€"๋ผ๋Š” ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์„ ์ผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:45
which was meant to absolutely push the envelope
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์ด ์ž‘ํ’ˆ์€ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋น„์ฃผ์–ผ ํšจ๊ณผ์™€ CG ํšจ๊ณผ์˜ ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ
06:49
of visual effects,
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์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜์–ด
06:51
of CG effects, beyond,
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์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„
06:53
with realistic human emotive characters
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ ์ธ ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ๋ฅผ CG๋กœ ๊ตฌํ˜„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š”
06:57
generated in CG,
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๋œป์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:59
and the main characters would all be in CG,
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์ฃผ์š” ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ๋“ค๋„ ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ 100% CG๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:01
and the world would be in CG.
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๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ ์—ญ์‹œ CG์˜€์ฃ .
07:03
And the envelope pushed back,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ํ•œ๊ณ„์— ๋ถ€๋”ชํ˜“์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:05
and I was told by the folks at my company
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ด ์˜ํ™”๋Š”
07:10
that we weren't going to be able to do this for a while.
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ํ•œ ๋™์•ˆ ์ œ์ž‘์ด ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:12
So, I shelved it, and I made this other movie about a big ship that sinks.
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ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ด ์ž ์‹œ ๋ณด๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ปค๋‹ค๋ž€ ๋ฐฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋ผ์•‰๋Š” ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
07:16
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
07:19
You know, I went and pitched it to the studio as "'Romeo and Juliet' on a ship:
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์ €๋Š” ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค ์ธก์— ์ด ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ "์„ ์ƒ์˜ ๋กœ๋ฏธ์˜ค์™€ ์ค„๋ฆฌ์—ฃ"์ด๋ผ ์„ ์ „ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:22
"It's going to be this epic romance,
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์›…์žฅํ•œ ๋กœ๋งจ์Šค์™€
07:24
passionate film."
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์—ด์ •์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
07:26
Secretly, what I wanted to do was
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๋น„๋ฐ€์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€
07:28
I wanted to dive to the real wreck of "Titanic."
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์‹ค์ œ ๋‚œํŒŒํ•œ ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ž ์ˆ˜ํ•ด ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:31
And that's why I made the movie.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“  ์ง„์งœ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:33
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
07:37
And that's the truth. Now, the studio didn't know that.
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์ •๋ง์ด์—์š”. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค ์ธก์€ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋ชฐ๋ž์—ˆ์ฃ .
07:39
But I convinced them. I said,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋“ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:41
"We're going to dive to the wreck. We're going to film it for real.
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"์‹ค์ œ ๋‚œํŒŒ์„ ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ž ์ˆ˜ํ•ด์„œ ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ์ฐ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
07:43
We'll be using it in the opening of the film.
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๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์˜ํ™” ๋„์ž…๋ถ€์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
07:46
It will be really important. It will be a great marketing hook."
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์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•ด์š”. ๊ต‰์žฅํ•œ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ…๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
07:48
And I talked them into funding an expedition.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ํƒ์‚ฌ์— ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ๋Œ€๋„๋ก ๊ผฌ๋“œ๊ฒผ์ฃ .
07:50
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
07:52
Sounds crazy. But this goes back to that theme
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๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ๋˜๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์ƒ์ƒ์ด
07:54
about your imagination creating a reality.
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ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ณธ๋ž˜์˜ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ๋˜๋Œ์•„๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:57
Because we actually created a reality where six months later,
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 6๋‹ฌ ๋’ค์—
07:59
I find myself in a Russian submersible
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๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„ ์ž ์ˆ˜์ •์„ ํƒ„ ์ฑ„
08:01
two and a half miles down in the north Atlantic,
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๋ถ๋Œ€์„œ์–‘ ํ•ด์ € 2.5๋งˆ์ผ ์†์—์„œ
08:04
looking at the real Titanic through a view port.
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์ฐฝ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ์‹ค์ œ ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
08:06
Not a movie, not HD -- for real.
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์˜ํ™”๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ , HD๋„ ์•„๋‹Œ, ์‹ค๋ฌผ์„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
08:09
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
08:12
Now, that blew my mind.
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์ €๋Š” ์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์„œ ์–ด์ฉ” ์ค„ ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ง€๊ฒฝ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:14
And it took a lot of preparation, we had to build cameras
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์ด ํƒ์‚ฌ์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:16
and lights and all kinds of things.
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์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ, ์กฐ๋ช…, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฑธ ์ œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:18
But, it struck me how much
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ํ•œํŽธ ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‹ฌํ•ด ์ž ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€
08:20
this dive, these deep dives,
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์šฐ์ฃผ ๋ฏธ์…˜๊ณผ ๋งŽ์ด ์œ ์‚ฌํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š”
08:22
was like a space mission.
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์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:24
You know, where it was highly technical,
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์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด ๋™์›๋˜๊ณ ,
08:26
and it required enormous planning.
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
08:28
You get in this capsule, you go down to this dark
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์šฐ์ฃผ์„ ๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ž ์ˆ˜์ •์„ ํƒ€๊ณ ,
08:30
hostile environment
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๊นœ๊นœํ•œ ์ ๋Œ€์  ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์œผ๋กœ ๊นŠ์ด ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:33
where there is no hope of rescue
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์‚ด์•„๋Œ์•„์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํ•œ
08:35
if you can't get back by yourself.
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๊ตฌ์ถœ๋  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์€ ์ „ํ˜€ ์—†๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ์š”.
08:37
And I thought like, "Wow. I'm like,
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์šฐ์™€, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง
08:39
living in a science fiction movie.
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๊ณต์ƒ๊ณผํ•™ ์˜ํ™” ์† ์ฃผ์ธ๊ณต ๊ฐ™๋„ค.
08:41
This is really cool."
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์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฑธ." ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
08:43
And so, I really got bitten by the bug of deep-ocean exploration.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ, ์ €๋Š” ์‹ฌํ•ด ํƒ์‚ฌ์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋น ์ ธ๋“ค์—ˆ์ฃ .
08:46
Of course, the curiosity, the science component of it --
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ๊ณผ ๊ณผํ•™์ ์ธ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€
08:49
it was everything. It was adventure,
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจํ—˜์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:51
it was curiosity, it was imagination.
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ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์ด์ž ์ƒ์ƒ๋ ฅ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:53
And it was an experience that
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๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ํ—๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฒŒ
08:56
Hollywood couldn't give me.
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์ฃผ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
08:58
Because, you know, I could imagine a creature and we could
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํ• ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋‚ธ ๋‹ค์Œ
09:00
create a visual effect for it. But I couldn't imagine what I was seeing
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์‹œ๊ฐ์  ํšจ๊ณผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ๋‚  ์ œ๊ฐ€
09:02
out that window.
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์ฐฝ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ณธ ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
09:04
As we did some of our subsequent expeditions,
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๊ทธ ํ›„ ๋ช‡ ์ฐจ๋ก€ ๋” ํƒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์†ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
09:07
I was seeing creatures at hydrothermal vents
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์ €๋Š” ์—ด์ˆ˜(็†ฑๆฐด) ๋ถ„์ถœ๊ตฌ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๋“ค์„ ๋ณด์•˜๊ณ 
09:09
and sometimes things that I had never seen before,
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๋•Œ๋กœ ์ด์ „์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๋ณธ ์  ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„,
09:13
sometimes things that no one had seen before,
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์–ด๋–ค ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:15
that actually were not described by science
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ค๋‚ธ ๊ทธ ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๋“ค์€
09:17
at the time that we saw them and imaged them.
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๋‹น์‹œ ํ•™๊ณ„์— ๋ณด๊ณ ๋„ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
09:20
So, I was completely smitten by this,
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋งคํ˜น๋˜์–ด์„œ
09:23
and had to do more.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๊ธฐ์—
09:25
And so, I actually made a kind of curious decision.
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๋‹ค์†Œ ์—‰๋šฑํ•ด ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:27
After the success of "Titanic,"
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"ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰"์ด ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ ํ›„์— ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ฒฐ์‹ฌํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
09:29
I said, "OK, I'm going to park my day job
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"๊ทธ๋ž˜, ํ• ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ ์˜ํ™” ์ œ์ž‘์ž๋ผ๋Š”
09:32
as a Hollywood movie maker,
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์ง์—…์„ ์ž ์‹œ ๋‚ด๋ ค ๋†“๊ณ 
09:34
and I'm going to go be a full-time explorer for a while."
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์ž ์‹œ๋™์•ˆ ์ „๋ฌธ ํƒํ—˜๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ."
09:38
And so, we started planning these
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํƒํ—˜ ๊ณ„ํš์„
09:40
expeditions.
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์„ธ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:42
And we wound up going to the Bismark,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋กœ๋ด‡์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ด
09:44
and exploring it with robotic vehicles.
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์นจ๋ชฐํ•œ ๋น„์Šค๋งˆ๋ฅดํฌํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ํƒ์‚ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:48
We went back to the Titanic wreck.
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ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ์—๋„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ฐพ์•„๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:50
We took little bots that we had created
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ด‘์„ฌ์œ  ์ค„์— ๋งค๋‹ฌ์•„ ๋‚ด๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
09:52
that spooled a fiber optic.
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์ž‘์€ ๋กœ๋ด‡๋„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ•ด์„œ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:54
And the idea was to go in and do an interior
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐฐ ๋‚ด๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์กฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:56
survey of that ship, which had never been done.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์—๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹œ๋„๋ฅผ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:00
Nobody had ever looked inside the wreck. They didn't have the means to do it,
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋‚œํŒŒ์„  ๋‚ด๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์žฅ๋น„๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:02
so we created technology to do it.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์ผ€ ํ•  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ธ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:05
So, you know, here I am now, on the deck
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ €๋Š” ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ ๊ฐ‘ํŒ๊นŒ์ง€
10:07
of Titanic, sitting in a submersible,
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์ž ์ˆ˜์ •์„ ํƒ€๊ณ  ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€์„œ
10:10
and looking out at planks that look much like this,
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๊ผญ ์ด ์—ฐ๋‹จ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ƒ๊ธด ๋ฌด๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:13
where I knew that the band had played.
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ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ์˜ ๋ฐด๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•˜๋˜ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์ด์ฃ .
10:16
And I'm flying a little robotic vehicle
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚œํŒŒ์„  ๋‚ด์˜ ๋ณต๋„๋กœ
10:18
through the corridor of the ship.
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์ž‘์€ ๋กœ๋ด‡ ์ž ์ˆ˜์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ณด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:21
When I say, "I'm operating it,"
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋กœ๋ด‡์„ ์กฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
10:24
but my mind is in the vehicle.
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๊ผญ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋Š๊ปด์ ธ์š”.
10:27
I felt like I was physically present
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์ €๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ œ ๋ชธ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
10:29
inside the shipwreck of Titanic.
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ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ„ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:31
And it was the most surreal kind
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒช์€ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘
10:33
of deja vu experience I've ever had,
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ดˆํ˜„์‹ค์ ์ธ ๋ฐ์ž๋ทฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:35
because I would know before I turned a corner
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋กœ๋ด‡์ด ์ฝ”๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๊ณ 
10:39
what was going to be there before the lights
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์‹ค์ œ ์กฐ๋ช…์„ ๋น„์ถฐ์„œ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ์ „์—
10:41
of the vehicle actually revealed it,
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์•ž์— ๋ญ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์˜ฌ์ง€ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹ค ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
10:43
because I had walked the set for months
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ์ด๋‚˜
10:45
when we were making the movie.
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ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ ์„ธํŠธ์žฅ์„ ๊ฑธ์–ด๋‹ค๋…”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
10:48
And the set was based as an exact replica
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๊ทธ ์„ธํŠธ์žฅ์€ ๋ฐฐ์˜ ์ฒญ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐธ๊ณ ํ•ด
10:50
on the blueprints of the ship.
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์‹ค๋ฌผ๊ณผ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์กŒ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
10:52
So, it was this absolutely remarkable experience.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ด๋ฃจ ํ˜•์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ง„๊ท€ํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:55
And it really made me realize that
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๋กœ๋ด‡์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  ์•„๋ฐ”ํƒ€๊ฐ€ ์ง„์งœ๋กœ
10:57
the telepresence experience --
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์žˆ์–ด๋„ ๋˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ด ๋•Œ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์–ด์š”.
10:59
that you actually can have these robotic avatars,
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๋‚˜์˜ ์˜์‹์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งค๊ฐœ์ฒด์—,
11:01
then your consciousness is injected into the vehicle,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ์กด์žฌ์— ์ฃผ์ž…ํ•˜์—ฌ ์›๊ฒฉ ํ˜„์žฅ๊ฐ์„
11:06
into this other form of existence.
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์ฒดํ—˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
11:08
It was really, really quite profound.
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์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ์‹ฌ์˜คํ•œ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:10
And it may be a little bit of a glimpse as to what might be happening
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๋ช‡ ์‹ญ ๋…„ ๋‚ด์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ผ๋“ค์„
11:13
some decades out
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๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ์‚ด์ง ์—ฟ๋ณธ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:15
as we start to have cyborg bodies
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ํƒ์‚ฌ ํ˜น์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ชฉ์ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์œผ๋กœ
11:18
for exploration or for other means
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์‚ฌ์ด๋ณด๊ทธ ๋ชธ์ฒด๋ฅผ
11:20
in many sort of
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์ด์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์„์š”.
11:22
post-human futures
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๊ณต์ƒ ๊ณผํ•™ ํŒฌ์œผ๋กœ์„œ
11:24
that I can imagine,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
11:26
as a science fiction fan.
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ํฌ์ŠคํŠธํœด๋จผ ์‹œ๋Œ€์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ์š”.
11:28
So, having done these expeditions,
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํƒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
11:33
and really beginning to appreciate what was down there,
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์‹ฌํ•ด ๋ถ„์ถœ๊ตฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ •๋ง ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ƒ๋ฌผ๋“ค์ด ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
11:37
such as at the deep ocean vents
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์‹ฌํ•ด ์ƒํƒœ๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
11:40
where we had these amazing, amazing animals --
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์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐํƒ„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:43
they're basically aliens right here on Earth.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ง€๊ตฌ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์™ธ๊ณ„ ์ƒ๋ช…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:45
They live in an environment of chemosynthesis.
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์ด ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๋“ค์€ ํ™”ํ•™ ํ•ฉ์„ฑ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ์„œ์‹ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:48
They don't survive on sunlight-based
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์ฆ‰ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ํ–‡๋น›์— ์˜์กดํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒํƒœ๊ณ„์—์„œ๋Š”
11:50
system the way we do.
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์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์กด์žฌ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:52
And so, you're seeing animals that are living next to
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500โ„ƒ์˜ ๋ฌผ์ด ์ƒ˜์†Ÿ๋Š” ๋ถ„์ถœ๊ตฌ ์˜†์—์„œ
11:54
a 500-degree-Centigrade
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์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๋„
11:56
water plumes.
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๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ฃ .
11:58
You think they can't possibly exist.
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์•„๋งˆ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋ฆฌ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋„ ๋ชปํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:00
At the same time
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์ €๋Š” ์ด์™€ ๋™์‹œ์—
12:02
I was getting very interested in space science as well --
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์šฐ์ฃผ ๊ณผํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:05
again, it's the science fiction influence, as a kid.
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์ด ๋˜ํ•œ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ ๋ณด์•˜๋˜ ๊ณต์ƒ ๊ณผํ•™๋ฌผ์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์ธ๋ฐ์š”.
12:08
And I wound up getting involved with
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ์ฃผ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:10
the space community,
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๋ฐ”๋กœ NASA์™€
12:12
really involved with NASA,
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์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:14
sitting on the NASA advisory board,
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NASA ์ž๋ฌธ ์œ„์›ํšŒ ์œ„์›์œผ๋กœ์„œ
12:17
planning actual space missions,
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์šฐ์ฃผ ํƒ์‚ฌ ๋ฏธ์…˜์„ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๊ณ 
12:19
going to Russia, going through the pre-cosmonaut
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๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ์šฐ์ฃผ์ธ ์‚ฌ์ „ ํ›ˆ๋ จ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ธ
12:21
biomedical protocols,
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์ƒ์ฒด์˜ํ•™ ํ”„๋กœํ† ์ฝœ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๋ฐŸ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:23
and all these sorts of things,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ 3D ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ 
12:25
to actually go and fly to the international space station
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๊ตญ์ œ ์šฐ์ฃผ ์ •๊ฑฐ์žฅ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋‚ ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š”๋ฐ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ
12:27
with our 3D camera systems.
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๊ทธ ์™ธ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:29
And this was fascinating.
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๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:31
But what I wound up doing was bringing space scientists
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์ €๋Š” ์šฐ์ฃผ ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์„
12:33
with us into the deep.
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์‹ฌํ•ด๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ”์ฃ .
12:36
And taking them down so that they had access --
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์ง์ ‘ ์ฒดํ—˜ํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:39
astrobiologists, planetary scientists,
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์šฐ์ฃผ์ƒ๋ฌผํ•™์ž, ํ–‰์„ฑ ๊ณผํ•™์ž,
12:42
people who were interested in these extreme environments --
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ทนํ•œ์˜ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„
12:45
taking them down to the vents, and letting them see,
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์—ด์ˆ˜ ๋ถ„์ถœ๊ตฌ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ 
12:48
and take samples and test instruments, and so on.
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ํ‘œ๋ณธ์„ ์ฑ„์ง‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹คํ—˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:50
So, here we were making documentary films,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
12:52
but actually doing science,
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๊ณผํ•™์  ์—ฐ๊ตฌ,
12:54
and actually doing space science.
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์šฐ์ฃผ ๊ณผํ•™ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๋„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์˜€์ฃ .
12:56
I'd completely closed the loop
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์ €๋Š” ์ด๋กœ์จ ์–ด๋ฆด ์ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
12:58
between being the science fiction fan,
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๊ณต์ƒ ๊ณผํ•™ ํŒฌ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ๊ณผ
13:00
you know, as a kid,
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ๋“ค์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ถ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜
13:02
and doing this stuff for real.
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๊ฐ„๊ทน์„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋ฉ”์›Œ๋ฒ„๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:04
And you know, along the way in this journey
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํƒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ
13:07
of discovery,
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ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ
13:09
I learned a lot.
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์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:11
I learned a lot about science. But I also learned a lot
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๊ณผํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
13:13
about leadership.
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๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:16
Now you think director has got to be a leader,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๊ฐ๋…์€ ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋ฆฌ๋”๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
13:18
leader of, captain of the ship, and all that sort of thing.
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๋ฐฐ์˜ ํ•จ์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€, ๋ญ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์กด์žฌ๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
13:20
I didn't really learn about leadership
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์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐฐ์šด์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:22
until I did these expeditions.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํƒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „๊นŒ์ง€๋Š”์š”.
13:25
Because I had to, at a certain point, say,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋Š ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ถ๊ธˆ์ฆ์ด ๋ฐ€๋ ค์™”์–ด์š”.
13:28
"What am I doing out here?
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"์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ญ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง€?
13:30
Why am I doing this? What do I get out of it?"
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์™œ ์ด๊ฑธ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง€? ์ด๊ฑธ๋กœ ๋ญ˜ ์–ป์œผ๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง€?"
13:33
We don't make money at these damn shows.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ˆ๋„ ๋ฒŒ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:36
We barely break even. There is no fame in it.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒจ์šฐ ๋ณธ์ „๋งŒ ์ฐพ์•˜์ฃ . ๋ช…์„ฑ๋„ ๋ชป ์–ป์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:38
People sort of think I went away
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€
13:40
between "Titanic" and "Avatar" and was buffing my nails
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"ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰"๊ณผ "์•„๋ฐ”ํƒ€" ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€๋กœ ์ž ์ ํ•ด์„œ
13:42
someplace, sitting at the beach.
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ํ•ด๋ณ€์—์„œ ์†ํ†ฑ ์†์งˆ์ด๋‚˜ ํ•˜๋ ค๋‹ˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:44
Made all these films, made all these documentary films
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €๋Š” ๋ฌด์ฒ™ ์ œํ•œ๋œ ์ˆ˜์˜ ๊ด€๊ฐ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด
13:47
for a very limited audience.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋‹คํ๋ฉ˜ํ„ฐ๋ฆฌ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:49
No fame, no glory, no money. What are you doing?
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๋ช…์„ฑ๋„, ๋ช…์˜ˆ๋„, ๋ถ€๋„ ํ•„์š” ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ๋Œ€์ฒด ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ƒ๊ณ ์š”?
13:52
You're doing it for the task itself,
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๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ทธ ์ผ ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:54
for the challenge --
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๋„์ „์„ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์š”.
13:56
and the ocean is the most challenging environment there is --
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๋ฐ”๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋„์ „์ ์ธ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
13:59
for the thrill of discovery,
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ํƒํ—˜ ์ค‘์— ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ธด์žฅ๊ฐ,
14:02
and for that strange bond that happens
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์ ์€ ์ธ์›์˜ ํŒ€์›๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋Š”
14:05
when a small group of people form a tightly knit team.
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๋…ํŠนํ•œ ์œ ๋Œ€๊ฐ ๋“ฑ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:08
Because we would do these things with 10, 12 people,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 10-12๋ช… ์ •๋„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
14:11
working for years at a time,
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๋…„์ด๋‚˜ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:13
sometimes at sea for two, three months at a time.
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์–ด๋–ค ๋•Œ์—๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์— ๋‘ ์„ธ๋‹ฌ์”ฉ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
14:17
And in that bond, you realize
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์œ ๋Œ€๊ฐ์„ ์–ป์œผ๋ฉด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:20
that the most important thing
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ,
14:22
is the respect that you have for them
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์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•ด๋‚ธ ํ›„์—
14:24
and that they have for you, that you've done a task
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์„œ๋กœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ’ˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ์กด์ค‘์˜ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด
14:27
that you can't explain to someone else.
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์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:29
When you come back to the shore and you say,
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ํ•ด์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค๋ฉด์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:31
"We had to do this, and the fiber optic, and the attentuation,
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"์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์–ด. ๊ทธ ๊ด‘์„ฌ์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์ด์•ผ. ์œ„์ถ•๋„๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ณ .
14:33
and the this and the that,
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์–ด์ฉŒ๊ณ ์ €์ฉŒ๊ณ ."
14:35
all the technology of it, and the difficulty,
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์ธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋“ค์ด๋‚˜ ์–ด๋ ค์› ๋˜ ์ ,
14:37
the human-performance aspects of working at sea,"
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๋ฐ”๋‹ค์—์„œ ์ผํ•  ๋•Œ ์š”๊ตฌ๋˜๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ธฐ๋Ÿ‰ ๋“ฑ๋“ฑ
14:40
you can't explain it to people. It's that thing that
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์ผ์ด ๋‹ค ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆœ ์—†์ฃ .
14:42
maybe cops have, or people in combat that have gone through something together
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์•„๋งˆ ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์ด๋‚˜ ์ „์šฐ๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋‚„๋งŒํ•œ
14:46
and they know they can never explain it.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์„ค๋ช…๋„ ๋ชปํ•  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:48
Creates a bond, creates a bond of respect.
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์œ ๋Œ€๊ฐ๊ณผ ์กด์ค‘์˜ ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ์ƒ๊น๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:50
So, when I came back to make my next movie,
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์—ฌํ•˜ํŠผ ๋‹ค์Œ ์˜ํ™” "์•„๋ฐ”ํƒ€"๋ฅผ
14:52
which was "Avatar,"
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๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋Œ์•„์™”์„ ๋•Œ
14:55
I tried to apply that same principle of leadership,
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์ €๋Š” ํŒ€์›์„ ์กด์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ 
14:58
which is that you respect your team,
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๊ทธ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ํŒ€์›๋“ค์˜ ์กด์ค‘์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š”
15:00
and you earn their respect in return.
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๋™์ผํ•œ ๋ฆฌ๋”์‹ญ์˜ ์›์น™์„ ์ ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:02
And it really changed the dynamic.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง๋กœ ํ๋ฆ„์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ์–ด ๋†“์•˜์ฃ .
15:04
So, here I was again with a small team,
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์ €๋Š” "์•„๋ฐ”ํƒ€"๋ฅผ ์ฐ์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์†Œ๊ทœ๋ชจ ํŒ€์„ ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•ด์„œ
15:07
in uncharted territory,
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์  ์—†๋Š” ์˜์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€
15:09
doing "Avatar," coming up with new technology
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์ „์—๋Š” ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋“ค์„
15:11
that didn't exist before.
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๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:13
Tremendously exciting.
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์‚ด ๋–จ๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ์งœ๋ฆฟํ•˜๊ณ ,
15:15
Tremendously challenging.
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
15:17
And we became a family, over a four-and-half year period.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 4๋…„ ๋ฐ˜์˜ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„๋™์•ˆ ํ•œ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:19
And it completely changed how I do movies.
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๊ทธ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ฐ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์ฃ .
15:22
So, people have commented on how, "Well, you know,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์–‘ ์œ ๊ธฐ์ฒด๋ฅผ
15:24
you brought back the ocean organisms
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ํŒ๋„๋ผ ํ–‰์„ฑ์— ์ž˜ ๊ตฌํ˜„ํ•ด ๋†“์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ
15:27
and put them on the planet of Pandora."
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์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
15:29
To me, it was more of a fundamental way of doing business,
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ด ์˜ํ™”๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„,
15:31
the process itself, that changed as a result of that.
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๊ณผ์ • ์ž์ฒด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:35
So, what can we synthesize out of all this?
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์ž, ์ด์ œ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์„ ๋„์ถœํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
15:37
You know, what are the lessons learned?
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฐ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์˜ ๊ตํ›ˆ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
15:40
Well, I think number one is
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š”
15:42
curiosity.
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ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:44
It's the most powerful thing you own.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋ฌด๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:47
Imagination is a force
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์ƒ์ƒ๋ ฅ์€
15:50
that can actually manifest a reality.
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ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํž˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:54
And the respect of your team
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŒ€์›๋“ค์˜ ์กด๊ฒฝ์€
15:58
is more important than all the
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์„ธ์ƒ์˜ ๊ทธ ์–ด๋–ค ์นญ์†ก๋ณด๋‹ค
16:00
laurels in the world.
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์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:03
I have young filmmakers
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์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ์ Š์€ ์˜ํ™” ์ œ์ž‘์ž๋“ค์ด
16:05
come up to me and say, "Give me some advice for doing this."
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌป๋”๊ตฐ์š”. "์ด์ชฝ ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ์ข€ ํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”."
16:09
And I say, "Don't put limitations on yourself.
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์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋‘์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
16:13
Other people will do that for you -- don't do it to yourself,
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์–ด์ฐจํ”ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿดํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์†๋‹จํ•˜์ง„ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
16:15
don't bet against yourself,
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์ž๊ธฐ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์˜์‹ฌํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
16:17
and take risks."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจํ—˜์„ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”."
16:19
NASA has this phrase that they like:
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NASA์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ์ฆ๊ฒจ ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
16:22
"Failure is not an option."
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"์‹คํŒจ๋Š” ์„ ํƒ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
16:24
But failure has to be an option
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹คํŒจ๋Š” ์„ ํƒ ์‚ฌํ•ญ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์—ฌ์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:27
in art and in exploration, because it's a leap of faith.
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์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ด๋‚˜ ํƒํ—˜์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋Š”์š”. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฏฟ์Œ์ด ๋” ๋‘ํ„ฐ์›Œ์งˆ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
16:30
And no important endeavor
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ˜์‹ ์„ ์š”๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š”
16:32
that required innovation
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์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‹œ๋„๋“ค์€
16:34
was done without risk.
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๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ์ˆ˜๋ฐ˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:36
You have to be willing to take those risks.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:39
So, that's the thought I would leave you with,
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋“ ์ง€
16:41
is that in whatever you're doing,
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์žŠ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฐ”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:44
failure is an option,
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์‹คํŒจ๋Š” ์„ ํƒ ์‚ฌํ•ญ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:47
but fear is not. Thank you.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ . ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:50
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