Malte Spitz: Your phone company is watching

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Translator: Morton Bast Reviewer: Thu-Huong Ha
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Prevoditelj: Ivan Stamenković Recezent: Tilen Pigac - EFZG
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Hi. This is my mobile phone.
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Zdravo. Ovo je moj mobilni telefon.
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A mobile phone can change your life,
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Mobilni telefon može promijeniti vaš život,
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and a mobile phone gives you individual freedom.
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i mobilni telefon daje vam individualnu slobodu.
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With a mobile phone,
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Sa mobitelom,
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you can shoot a crime against humanity in Syria.
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možete snimiti zločin protiv čovječnosti u Syrii.
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With a mobile phone,
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Sa mobitelom,
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you can tweet a message
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možete tweetati poruku
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and start a protest in Egypt.
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i započeti prosvjed u Egiptu.
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And with a mobile phone,
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I sa mobitelom,
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you can record a song, load it up to
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možete snimiti pjesmu, uploadati ju
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SoundCloud and become famous.
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na SoundCloud i postati poznati.
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All this is possible with your mobile phone.
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Sve ovo je moguće s vašim mobitelom.
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I'm a child of 1984,
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Rođen sam 1984.,
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and I live in the city of Berlin.
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i živim u gradu Berlinu.
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Let's go back to that time, to this city.
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Vratimo se u to vrijeme, u ovaj grad.
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Here you can see
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Ovdje možete vidjeti
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how hundreds of thousands of people
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kako stotine tisuća ljudi
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stood up and protested for change.
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ustaje i prosvjeduje za promjenu.
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This is autumn 1989,
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Ovo je jesen 1989,
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and imagine that all those people standing up
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i zamislite da svi ti ljudi koji stoje
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and protesting for change had a
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i prosvjeduju za promjenu
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mobile phone in their pocket.
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imaju mobitel u svojim džepovima.
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Who in the room has a mobile phone with you?
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Tko u sobi ima mobitel sa sobom?
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Hold it up.
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Podignite ga.
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Hold your phones up, hold your phones up!
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Podignite ih, podignite vaše mobitele!
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Hold it up. An Android, a Blackberry, wow.
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Podignite ih. Android, Blackberry, vau.
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That's a lot. Almost everybody today has a mobile phone.
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To je puno. Skoro svi danas imate mobilni telefon.
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But today I will talk about me and my mobile phone,
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Ali danas ću razgovarati o sebi i svom mobilnom telefonu,
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and how it changed my life.
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i kako je promijenio moj život.
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And I will talk about this.
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I govorit ću o ovome.
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These are 35,830 lines of information.
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Ovo je 35.830 linija informacija.
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Raw data.
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Sirovi podatci.
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And why are these informations there?
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I zašto su ti podatci ovdje?
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Because in the summer of 2006,
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Jer je u ljeto 2006.,
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the E.U. Commission tabled a directive.
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komisija Europske Unije donijela odredbu.
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This directive [is] called Data Retention Directive.
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Ova odredba zove se Odredba o zadržavanju podataka.
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This directive says that each phone company in Europe,
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Ova odredba kaže da svaka telefonska tvrtka u Europi,
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each Internet service company all over Europe,
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svaki pružatelj usluga pristupa internetu po cijeloj Europi,
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has to store a wide range of information about the users.
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mora spremati širok raspon podataka o korisnicima.
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Who calls whom? Who sends whom an email?
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Tko koga zove? Tko kome šalje mail?
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Who sends whom a text message?
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Tko kome šalje poruku?
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And if you use your mobile phone, where you are.
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I ako koristite mobitel, gdje se nalazite.
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All this information is stored for at least six months,
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Svi ovi podatci spremaju se barem šest mjeseci,
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up to two years by your phone company
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do dvije godine od strane vašeg teleoperatera
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or your Internet service provider.
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ili vašeg pružatelja usluga interneta.
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And all over Europe, people stood up and said,
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I širom Europe ljudi su ustali i rekli,
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"We don't want this."
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"Ne želimo ovo."
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They said, we don't want this data retention.
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Rekli su, ne želimo ovo zadržavanje podataka.
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We want self-determination in the digital age,
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Želimo se sami određivati u digitalnom dobu,
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and we don't want that phone companies and Internet companies
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i ne želimo da teleoperateri
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have to store all this information about us.
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spremaju sve ove podatke o nama.
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They were lawyers, journalists, priests,
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To su bili odvjetnici, novinari, svećenici,
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they all said: "We don't want this."
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svi su rekli: "Ne želimo to."
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And here you can see, like 10 thousands of people
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I ovdje možete vidjeti, otprilike 10 tisuća ljudi
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went out on the streets of Berlin and said,
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izašlo je na ulice Berlina i reklo,
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"Freedom, not fear."
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"Sloboda, ne strah."
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And some even said, this would be Stasi 2.0.
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A neki su rekli da bi ovo bio Stasi 2.0.
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Stasi was the secret police in East Germany.
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Stasi je bila tajna policija u istočnoj Njemačkoj.
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And I also ask myself, does it really work?
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I ja sam se zapitao da li to zaista radi?
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Can they really store all this information about us?
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Mogu li zaista spremati toliku količinu podataka o nama?
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Every time I use my mobile phone?
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Svaki put kad koristim svoj mobitel?
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So I asked my phone company, Deutsche Telekom,
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Pitao sam svog operatera, Deutsche Telekom,
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which was at that time the largest phone company in Germany,
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koji je tada bio najveći operater u Njemačkoj,
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and I asked them, please,
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i pitao sam ih, molim vas
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send me all the information you have stored about me.
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pošaljite mi sve podatke koje imate spremljene o meni.
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And I asked them once, and I asked them again,
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I pitao sam ih jednom, i pitao sam ih opet,
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and I got no real answer. It was only blah blah answers.
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i nisam dobio pravi odgovor. To su sve bili bla bla odgovori.
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But then I said, I want to have this information,
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Ali onda sam rekao, želim imati ove informacije,
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because this is my life you are protocoling.
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jer ovo je moj život koji procesuirate.
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So I decided to start a lawsuit against them,
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Tako da sam odlučio pokrenuti tužbu protiv njih,
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because I wanted to have this information.
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jer sam želio imati te podatke.
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But Deutsche Telekom said, no,
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Ali Deutsche Telekom je rekao ne,
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we will not give you this information.
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nećemo ti dati informacije.
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So at the end, I had a settlement with them.
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Na kraju sam se nagodio s njima.
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I'll put down the lawsuit
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Odustat ću od tužbe
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and they will send me all the information I ask for.
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i oni će mi poslati informacije koje sam tražio.
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Because in the mean time,
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Jer u međuvremenu,
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the German Constitutional Court ruled
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Njemački je ustavni sud odlučio
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that the implementation of this E.U. directive
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kako je implementacija E.U. odredbe
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into German law was unconstitutional.
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u Njemački zakon neustavna.
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So I got this ugly brown envelope
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Dobio sam ovu ružnu smeđu omotnicu
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with a C.D. inside.
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sa CD-om unutra.
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And on the C.D., this was on.
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I ovo je bilo na CD-u.
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Thirty-five thousand eight hundred thirty lines of information.
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Trideset pet tisuća osamstotrideset crta informacija.
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At first I saw it, and I said, okay,
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Prvo sam ga vidio, i rekao, u redu,
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it's a huge file. Okay.
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ovo je ogroman dokument. U redu.
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But then after a while I realized,
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A onda sam shvatio,
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this is my life.
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ovo je moj život.
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This is six months of my life,
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Ovo je šest mjeseci mog života,
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into this file.
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u ovom dokumentu.
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So I was a little bit skeptical, what should I do with it?
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I bio sam malo skeptičan, što da učinim s njim?
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Because you can see where I am,
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Jer vidite gdje sam,
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where I sleep at night,
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gdje noću spavam,
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what I am doing.
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što radim.
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But then I said, I want to go out with this information.
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I onda sam rekao, želim izići s ovim informacijama.
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I want to make them public.
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Želim da budu javne.
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Because I want to show the people what does data retention mean.
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Zato što želim da ljudi znaju što znači zadržavanje podataka.
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So together with Zeit Online and Open Data City, I did this.
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Zajedno sa Zeit Online i Open Data City, učinio sam ovo.
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This is a visualization of six months of my life.
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Ovo je vizualizacija šest mjeseci mog života.
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You can zoom in and zoom out,
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Možete zumirati unutra i van,
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you can wind back and fast forward.
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možete premotavati naprijed i natrag.
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You can see every step I take.
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Vidjeti svaki korak koji činim.
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And you can even see
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I možete vidjeti
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how I go from Frankfurt by train
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kako sam išao vlakom od Frankfurta
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to Cologne, and how often I call in between.
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do Kolna, i kako često zovem za vrijeme putovanja.
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All this is possible with this information.
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Sve je ovo moguće s ovim informacijama.
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That's a little bit scary.
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To je pomalo zastrašujuće.
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But it is not only about me.
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Ali ne radi se samo o meni.
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It's about all of us.
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Radi se o svima nama.
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First, it's only like, I call my wife and she calls me,
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Prvo, samo je, ja nazovem ženu i ona zove mene,
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and we talk to each other a couple of times.
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i pričamo par puta.
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And then there are some friends calling me,
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I onda je tu nekoliko prijatelja koji me zovu,
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and they call each other.
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i zovu se međusobno.
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And after a while you are calling you,
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I nakon nekog vremena sam sebe zoveš,
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and you are calling you, and you have this great
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i zoveš sam sebe, i imaš veliku
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communication network.
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komunikacijsku mrežu.
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But you can see how your people are communicating with each other,
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Ali možeš vidjeti kako ljudi komuniciraju jedni s drugima,
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what times they call each other, when they go to bed.
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kada se zovu, kada idu spavati.
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You can see all of this.
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Možeš vidjeti sve ovo.
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You can see the hubs, like who are the leaders in the group.
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Možeš vidjeti tko je vođa u grupi.
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If you have access to this information,
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Ako imaš ove podatke,
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you can see what your society is doing.
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možeš vidjeti što radi tvoje okruženje.
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If you have access to this information,
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Ako imaš pristup ovim informacijama,
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you can control your society.
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možeš kontrolirati svoje društvo.
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This is a blueprint for countries like China and Iran.
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Ovo je nacrt za zemlje kao što su Kina i Iran.
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This is a blueprint how to survey your society,
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Ovo je nacrt kako nadzirati svoje društvo,
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because you know who talks to whom,
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jer znaš tko s kim razgovara,
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who sends whom an email, all this is possible
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tko kome šalje mail, sve je ovo moguće
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if you have access to this information.
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ako imaš pristup ovim informacijama.
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And this information is stored for at least six months
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I ove informacije spremaju se šest mjeseci
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in Europe, up to two years.
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u Europi, do dvije godine.
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Like I said at the beginning,
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Kao što sam rekao u početku,
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imagine that all those people on the streets of Berlin
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zamislite da su svi ti ljudi na ulicama u Berlinu
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in autumn of 1989
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u jesen 1989.
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had a mobile phone in their pocket.
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imali mobitel u svom džepu.
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And the Stasi would have known who took part at this protest,
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I da je Stasi znao tko je sudjelovao u prosvjedu,
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and if the Stasi would have known
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i kada bi Stasi znao
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who are the leaders behind it,
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tko su vođe iza toga,
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this may never have happened.
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ovo se možda ne bi nikad dogodilo.
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The fall of the Berlin Wall would maybe not [have been] there.
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Pad Berlinskog zida možda se ne bi dogodio.
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And in the aftermath, also not the fall of the Iron Curtain.
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I nakon svega toga, ni pad Željezne zavjese.
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Because today, state agencies and companies
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Jer danas, državne agencije i tvrtke
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want to store as much information as they can get about us,
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žele o nama sačuvati što je više moguće informacija,
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online and offline.
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na mreži i izvan mreže.
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They want to have the possibility to track our lives,
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Žele imati mogućnost nadzirati naš život,
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and they want to store them for all time.
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i žele te informacije spremati zauvijek.
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But self-determination and living in the digital age
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Ali samoodređivanje i život u digitalnom dobu
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is no contradiction.
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nisu proturječnost.
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But you have to fight for your self-determination today.
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Ali moraš se boriti za svoju mogućnost samoodređivanja danas.
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You have to fight for it every day.
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Moraš se boriti za nju svakog dana.
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So, when you go home,
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Tako, kada odete kući
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tell your friends
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recite svojim prijateljima
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that privacy is a value of the 21st century,
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da je privatnost vrijednost 21. stoljeća,
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and it's not outdated.
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i da nije zastarjela.
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When you go home, tell your representative
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Kad odete kući, recite svom zastupniku
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only because companies and state agencies have the possibility
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jer jedino tvrtke i državne agencije imaju mogućnost
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to store certain information, they don't have to do it.
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spremanja određenih informacija, one to ne moraju činiti.
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And if you don't believe me,
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I ako mi ne vjerujete,
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ask your phone company what information they store about you.
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pitajte vašeg teleoperatera koje informacije sprema o vama.
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So, in the future, every time you use your mobile phone,
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U budućnosti, svaki put kad koristite svoj mobitel,
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let it be a reminder to you
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neka to bude podsjetnik
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that you have to fight for self-determination in the digital age.
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da se trebamo boriti za samoodređivanje u digitalnom dobu.
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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