What I discovered in New York City trash | Robin Nagle

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譯者: lin piao 審譯者: Marssi Draw
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I was about 10 years old
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我10歲左右的時候,
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on a camping trip with my dad
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有一次和爸爸一起去
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in the Adirondack Mountains, a wilderness area
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阿第倫達克山脈露營,那是一片
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in the northern part of New York State.
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位於紐約州北部的荒野。
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It was a beautiful day.
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那天天氣特別好。
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The forest was sparkling.
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森林裡處處閃閃發光。
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The sun made the leaves glow like stained glass,
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陽光照耀下,樹葉閃閃地像晶瑩的彩色玻璃。
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and if it weren't for the path we were following,
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如果沒有腳下的小路,
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we could almost pretend we were
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我們幾乎可以假裝我們是
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the first human beings to ever walk that land.
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首批到達那片土地的人類。
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We got to our campsite.
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我們抵達了營地,
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It was a lean-to on a bluff
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那是一個在懸崖上的營地,
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looking over a crystal, beautiful lake,
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可以向下俯瞰一個水晶般的美麗湖泊。
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when I discovered a horror.
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後來我卻發現了很糟糕的事。
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Behind the lean-to was a dump,
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就在懸崖營地的後面,
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maybe 40 feet square
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有個40英尺見方的大垃圾堆。
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with rotting apple cores
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裡面有爛蘋果核、
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and balled-up aluminum foil,
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用過的鋁箔紙
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and a dead sneaker.
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和破舊的運動鞋。
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And I was astonished,
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我當時非常吃驚,
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I was very angry, and I was deeply confused.
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非常生氣,也非常非常困惑。
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The campers who were too lazy
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來露營的人實在太懶了,
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to take out what they had brought in,
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連自己帶來的垃圾都不肯收拾。
01:06
who did they think would clean up after them?
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他們覺得誰會替他們清理善後呢?
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That question stayed with me,
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這個問題一直困擾著我,
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and it simplified a little.
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後來成了一個更簡化的問題,
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Who cleans up after us?
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誰來清理我們留下的垃圾?
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However you configure
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但是你可以把這個問題
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or wherever you place the us,
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放在任何你生活的地方。
01:19
who cleans up after us in Istanbul?
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誰在伊斯坦堡清理我們留下的垃圾?
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Who cleans up after us in Rio
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誰在里約清理我們留下的垃圾?
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or in Paris or in London?
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在巴黎或倫敦呢?
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Here in New York,
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在紐約,這裡,
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the Department of Sanitation cleans up after us,
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是環衛部門清理我們留下
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to the tune of 11,000 tons of garbage
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多達11,000噸的垃圾,
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and 2,000 tons of recyclables every day.
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和每天2,000噸的可回收資源。
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I wanted to get to know them as individuals.
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我想一個個去瞭解這些清潔工人,
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I wanted to understand who takes the job.
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我想知道誰在做這樣的工作。
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What's it like to wear the uniform
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穿上制服
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and bear that burden?
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承擔起這份責任的感覺是什麼樣子?
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So I started a research project with them.
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所以我開始了一項關於 清潔工人的研究課題。
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I rode in the trucks and walked the routes
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我坐在垃圾車上,沿著收垃圾的路線,
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and interviewed people in offices and facilities
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採訪全紐約在辦公室和工作現場
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all over the city,
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的清潔人員。
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and I learned a lot,
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我學到了很多,
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but I was still an outsider.
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但我仍然是個局外人。
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I needed to go deeper.
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我需要更深入地瞭解。
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So I took the job as a sanitation worker.
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於是我真的找了份清潔工人的工作。
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I didn't just ride in the trucks now. I drove the trucks.
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現在我不僅是坐在垃圾車裡, 我還開著垃圾車。
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And I operated the mechanical brooms and I plowed the snow.
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我親作操作掃街車清理大街、 鏟除街上的雪。
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It was a remarkable privilege
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那可是一種非凡的特權,
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and an amazing education.
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也是令人讚嘆的一課。
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Everyone asks about the smell.
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每個人都會問到垃圾臭味。
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It's there, but it's not as prevalent as you think,
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是有臭味,但不像你想的那樣糟。
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and on days when it is really bad,
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有時候確實很臭,
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you get used to it rather quickly.
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但你很快就會適應了。
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The weight takes a long time to get used to.
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垃圾的重量卻需要 很長的時間來適應。
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I knew people who were several years on the job
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我就知道即使有 幾年工作經驗的熟練工,
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whose bodies were still adjusting to the burden
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他們的身體還試著在
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of bearing on your body
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適應每週
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tons of trash every week.
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成噸的垃圾。
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Then there's the danger.
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那麼這裡面就存在著風險。
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According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
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根據勞動統計局的報告,
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sanitation work is one of the 10 most dangerous
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清潔工作是國內十大危險
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occupations in the country,
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職業之一。
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and I learned why.
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我知道其中原委。
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You're in and out of traffic all day,
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你整天都在路上,
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and it's zooming around you.
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就身處車流之中。
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It just wants to get past you, so it's often
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來往的車輛只想著超過你,
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the motorist is not paying attention.
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開車的人往往不夠小心。
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That's really bad for the worker.
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對清潔工人來說,這實在太糟糕了。
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And then the garbage itself is full of hazards
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還有呢,垃圾本身就充滿了危險,
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that often fly back out of the truck
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這些危害物經常會從垃圾車裡飛出,
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and do terrible harm.
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造成可怕的傷害。
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I also learned about the relentlessness of trash.
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我還瞭解到垃圾的殘酷和可怕。
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When you step off the curb
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當你走下路沿,
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and you see a city from behind a truck,
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在垃圾車後觀察一個城市,
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you come to understand that trash
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你會慢慢理解垃圾
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is like a force of nature unto itself.
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就像大自然反撲的力量。
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It never stops coming.
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它一向都是源源不絕的。
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It's also like a form of respiration or circulation.
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用一種像是呼吸或循環的方式,
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It must always be in motion.
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它總是在動態中。
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And then there's the stigma.
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最後一點,清潔工人被汙名化。
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You put on the uniform, and you become invisible
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當你穿上制服,就會被視而不見,
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until someone is upset with you for whatever reason
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直到有人找到什麼理由為難你,
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like you've blocked traffic with your truck,
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嫌你的垃圾車阻礙交通呀,
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or you're taking a break too close to their home,
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嫌你在離他們家很近的地方休息呀,
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or you're drinking coffee in their diner,
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嫌你在他們的小餐館喝咖啡呀。
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and they will come and scorn you,
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他們會走過來嘲笑你,
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and tell you that they don't want you anywhere near them.
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告訴你離他們遠點。
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I find the stigma especially ironic,
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我覺得這樣的汙名化非常地可笑,
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because I strongly believe that sanitation workers
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因為我堅信清潔工人們
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are the most important labor force
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是城市街道上
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on the streets of the city, for three reasons.
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最重要的勞動力, 原因有三點。
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They are the first guardians of public health.
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他們是公共衛生的第一道屏障。
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If they're not taking away trash
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如果他們每天不
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efficiently and effectively every day,
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高效率地清理垃圾的話,
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it starts to spill out of its containments,
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垃圾會從容器中溢出,
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and the dangers inherent to it threaten us
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在其中的危險 會以非常真實的方式
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in very real ways.
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威脅我們的生活。
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Diseases we've had in check for decades and centuries
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我們費時數十年、數個世紀抑制的疾病
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burst forth again and start to harm us.
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會再次爆發,開始威脅我們的健康。
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The economy needs them.
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第二,國家經濟需要清潔工人。
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If we can't throw out the old stuff,
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如果我們不丟掉舊的東西,
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we have no room for the new stuff,
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我們就沒有空間裝新的東西。
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so then the engines of the economy
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那樣的話,經濟的引擎
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start to sputter when consumption is compromised.
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就會停歇,因為人們的消費減少了。
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I'm not advocating capitalism, I'm just pointing out their relationship.
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我不主張資本主義, 我在這裡只是指出它們的關係。
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And then there's what I call
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第三個原因就是我稱之為
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our average, necessary quotidian velocity.
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我們平均、必要的生活步調。
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By that I simply mean
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我的意思是說
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how fast we're used to moving
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在現今的年代和日子裡,我們是如此地
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in the contemporary day and age.
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習慣於奔忙。
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We usually don't care for, repair, clean, carry around
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我們通常不會在意、修理、清潔、隨身攜帶
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our coffee cup, our shopping bag,
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我們的咖啡杯、購物袋
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our bottle of water.
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和水瓶。
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We use them, we throw them out, we forget about them,
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我們使用它們,然後扔掉它們、忘掉它們,
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because we know there's a workforce
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因為我們知道會有一支工作隊伍
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on the other side that's going to take it all away.
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在一旁把這些東西清理掉。
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So I want to suggest today a couple of ways
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所以今天我想提供幾個觀點,
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to think about sanitation that will perhaps help
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也許能夠幫助清潔工人,
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ameliorate the stigma
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為他們正名,
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and bring them into this conversation
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把他們請來參與談論
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of how to craft a city that is sustainable and humane.
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如何打造一個永續且人道的城市。
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Their work, I think, is kind of liturgical.
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我認為他們的工作是很崇高的,
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They're on the streets every day, rhythmically.
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他們每天按時在街上工作。
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They wear a uniform in many cities.
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在很多城市中,他們會穿著制服,
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You know when to expect them.
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你知道他們會準時來清理垃圾。
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And their work lets us do our work.
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是他們讓我們可以安心做自己的工作。
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They are almost a form of reassurance.
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他們幾乎成了安心工作的保證。
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The flow that they maintain
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他們不停的工作
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keeps us safe from ourselves,
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讓我們安全無憂,
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from our own dross, our cast-offs,
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不必擔心我們剩下的糟粕和垃圾。
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and that flow must be maintained always
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這樣不停歇的工作
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no matter what.
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無論如何都不能中斷。
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On the day after September 11 in 2001,
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2001年9月11日的隔天,
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I heard the growl of a sanitation truck on the street,
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我聽著街上垃圾車咆哮而來,
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and I grabbed my infant son and I ran downstairs
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我拉著年幼的兒子跑下樓。
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and there was a man doing his paper recycling route
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有個回收報紙的工人
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like he did every Wednesday.
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正在做他每週三都做的工作。
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And I tried to thank him for doing his work
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我要感謝他在那麼特殊的日子裡,
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on that day of all days,
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做這些工作,
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but I started to cry.
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但我忍不住哭了起來。
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And he looked at me,
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他望著我,
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and he just nodded, and he said,
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只是點點頭,然後說,
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"We're going to be okay.
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「我們會沒事的。
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We're going to be okay."
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我們會沒事的。」
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It was a little while later that I started
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後來在我剛開始
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my research with sanitation,
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研究清潔工作的時候,
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and I met that man again.
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我再次遇見了那個人。
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His name is Paulie, and we worked together many times,
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他的名字叫保利,我們一起工作過許多次,
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and we became good friends.
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還成了好朋友。
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I want to believe that Paulie was right.
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我願意相信保利的話是對的。
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We are going to be okay.
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我們會沒事的。
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But in our effort to reconfigure
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但我們作為這個星球的一分子,
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how we as a species exist on this planet,
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我們需要努力地進行重建。
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we must include and take account of
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我們必須考慮到
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all the costs, including the very real human cost
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所有的消耗,包括活生生的勞動人力
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of the labor.
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消耗。
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And we also would be well informed
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而且我們要廣納良言,
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to reach out to the people who do that work
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和從事這個行業的人們交流,
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and get their expertise
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請他們以專業角度
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on how do we think about,
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為我們的看法提供建議,
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how do we create systems around sustainability
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關於如何建立一個 能夠永續經營的制度,
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that perhaps take us from curbside recycling,
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也許讓我們減少街道回收的工作,
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which is a remarkable success across 40 years,
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戰勝這項40年來
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across the United States and countries around the world,
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在美國和世界各國的習慣,
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and lift us up to a broader horizon
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將大家提升到更高的水平。
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where we're looking at other forms of waste
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如此一來,我們就能思考
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that could be lessened
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如何處理在製造業和工業生產過程中
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from manufacturing and industrial sources.
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能夠被減少的垃圾。
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Municipal waste, what we think of when we talk about garbage,
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當我們提到垃圾時, 通常想到的就是城市的垃圾,
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accounts for three percent of the nation's waste stream.
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其實只占國內垃圾總量的3%。
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It's a remarkable statistic.
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這是個驚人的數據。
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So in the flow of your days,
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在你的日常生活中,
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in the flow of your lives,
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在你的生命之流裡,
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next time you see someone whose job is
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下一次當你看到有人在
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to clean up after you,
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清理你留下的垃圾時,
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take a moment to acknowledge them.
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請找個時間向他們致意,
07:39
Take a moment to say thank you.
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找個時間說聲謝謝。
07:44
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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