Christopher Soghoian: Government surveillance — this is just the beginning
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譯者: Rowena Weng
審譯者: Bighead Ge
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The 2011 Arab Spring
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2011 年阿拉伯之春
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captured the attention of the world.
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引起世界各地的關注
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It also captured the attention
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也提高了
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of authoritarian governments in other countries,
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其他集權政體的警覺性
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who were worried that revolution would spread.
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他們擔心改革思潮擴大
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To respond, they ramped up surveillance
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因此,他們逐漸加強
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of activists, journalists and dissidents
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對社會運動人士、
記者及異議分子的監視
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who they feared would inspire revolution
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他們害怕這群人在國內
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in their own countries.
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推動改革
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One prominent Bahraini activist,
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一個巴林的重要社運人士
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who was arrested and tortured by his government,
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被政府逮捕及虐待
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has said that the interrogators showed him
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他說,問話的人給他看
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transcripts of his telephone calls
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他的手機通聯記錄
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and text messages.
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和簡訊內容
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Of course, it's no secret
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當然,這也不是什麼新聞了
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that governments are able to intercept
telephone calls and text messages.
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政府早就能夠監聽電話和簡訊
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It's for that reason that many activists
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因為如此,許多社運人士
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specifically avoid using the telephone.
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都會避免使用電話
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Instead, they use tools like Skype,
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他們使用 Skype
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which they think are immune to interception.
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以為這樣就不會被監聽
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They're wrong.
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但他們錯了
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There have now been over the last few years
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早在過去幾年
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an industry of companies
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已有企業
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who provide surveillance technology to governments,
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向政府提供監聽科技
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specifically technology that
allows those governments
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尤其是一種專門的科技
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to hack into the computers
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讓政府得以入侵監聽對象的電腦
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of surveillance targets.
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與其藉由線路監聽
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Rather than intercepting the communications
as they go over the wire,
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instead they now hack into your computer,
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他們現在直接入侵你的電腦
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enable your webcam, enable your microphone,
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啟動你的網路攝影機、麥克風
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and steal documents from your computer.
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並竊取你電腦裡的文件
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When the government of Egypt fell in 2011,
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當埃及政府在 2011 年垮台時
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activists raided the office of the secret police,
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社運人士搜查秘密警察的辦公室
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and among the many documents they found
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裡面有許多文件
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was this document by the Gamma Corporation,
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有一份文件來自伽瑪(Gamma)公司
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by Gamma International.
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母公司是伽瑪國際
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Gamma is a German company
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伽瑪是一家德國公司
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that manufactures surveillance software
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設計監聽軟體
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and sells it only to governments.
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然後只賣給政府
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It's important to note that most governments
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值得注意的是,大部分的政府
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don't really have the in-house capabilities
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並沒有能力
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to develop this software.
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自行研發這類軟體
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Smaller ones don't have the resources
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小國更沒有
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or the expertise,
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這樣的資源與專業
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and so there's this market of Western companies
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因此,西方的企業
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who are happy to supply them with the tools
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很樂意提供這些設備與技術
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and techniques for a price.
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以換取酬佣
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Gamma is just one of these companies.
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伽瑪只是其中一個例子
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I should note also that Gamma never actually sold
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我要聲明:伽瑪從未
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their software to the Egyptian government.
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賣軟體給埃及政府
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They'd sent them an invoice for a sale,
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他們有寄出報價的發票
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but the Egyptians never bought it.
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但是埃及並未購買
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Instead, apparently, the Egyptian government
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很明顯的,埃及政府使用的是
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used a free demo version of Gamma's software.
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伽瑪免付費的試用版
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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So this screenshot is from a sales video
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這個抓圖是截取自
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that Gamma produced.
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伽瑪公司的行銷影片
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Really, they're just emphasizing
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在這個頗具說服力的簡報中
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in a relatively slick presentation
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他們強調
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the fact that the police can sort of sit
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警察只要輕鬆地坐在
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in an air-conditioned office
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辦公室裡吹冷氣
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and remotely monitor someone
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就能進行遠端監控
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without them having any idea that it's going on.
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而且被監聽的對象完全不知情
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You know, your webcam light won't turn on.
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網路攝影機的指示燈並不會亮
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There's nothing to indicate that
the microphone is enabled.
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也看不出來麥克風被開啟了
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This is the managing director
of Gamma International.
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這位是伽碼國際的執行董事
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His name is Martin Muench.
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馬汀穆奇 (Martin Muench)
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There are many photos of Mr. Muench that exist.
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有很多他的照片
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This is perhaps my favorite.
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這張是我的最愛
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I'm just going to zoom in a little bit onto his webcam.
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讓我們放大看他的網路攝影機
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You can see there's a little sticker
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你可以看到有一張小貼紙
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that's placed over his camera.
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貼在攝影機上
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He knows what kind of surveillance is possible,
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他知道監聽科技的能力
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and so clearly he doesn't want it to be used
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所以很明顯地,他不希望這樣的事
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against him.
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發生在他身上
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Muench has said that he intends
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穆奇表示
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for his software to be used
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他希望他的軟體
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to capture terrorists and locate pedophiles.
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用來對付恐怖分子或有戀童癖的人
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Of course, he's also acknowledged that once
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當然,他也承認
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the software has been sold to governments,
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一旦這個軟體賣給了政府
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he has no way of knowing how it can be used.
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用途就不得而知了
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Gamma's software has been located on servers
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許多伺服器都有裝載伽碼的軟體
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in countries around the world,
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在世界各國被使用
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many with really atrocious track records
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也的確有令人震驚的追蹤紀錄
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and human rights violations.
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以及違反人權的問題
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They really are selling their
software around the world.
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伽碼的軟體在全世界都買的到
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Gamma is not the only company in the business.
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伽碼並不是唯一這樣的企業
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As I said, it's a $5 billion industry.
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這個產業價值 50 億美元
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One of the other big guys in the industry
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另外一個主要企業是
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is an Italian company called Hacking Team.
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來自義大利的駭客團隊 (Hacking Team)
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Now, Hacking Team has what is probably
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這家公司現在擁有
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the slickest presentation.
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最具說服力的簡報技巧
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The video they've produced is very sexy,
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他們製作的行銷影片非常吸引力
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and so I'm going to play you a clip
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我會播出一段
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just so you can get a feel
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讓你們感受一下
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both for the capabilities of the software
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這個軟體的能力
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but also how it's marketed
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以及這家公司
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to their government clients.
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是如何向政府銷售這個產品
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(Video) Narrator: You want to look
through your target's eyes.
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(影片) 旁白:你想要知道
你的監聽對象正在看什麼
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(Music)
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(音樂)
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You have to hack your target.
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你必須入侵他
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["While your target is browsing the web, exchanging documents, receiving SMS, crossing the borders"]
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[當你的監聽對象正在瀏覽網頁、
交換文件、接收簡訊、跨越國界]
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You have to hit many different platforms.
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你必須進入許多不同的平台
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["Windows, OS X, iOS, Android,
Blackberry, Symbian, Linux"]
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[Windows, OS X, iOS, Android,
Blackberry, Symbian, Linux]
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You have to overcome encryption
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你必須解開加密
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and capture relevant data.
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獲取有關的資料
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[Skype & encrypted calls, target location,
messaging, relationships,
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[Skype 以及 加密通話
目標位置、簡訊、 關係、
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web browsing, audio & video"]
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網路瀏覽、影片及錄音]
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Being stealth and untraceable.
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神不知鬼不覺地
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["Immune to any protection system
Hidden collection infrastructure"]
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[入侵任何保護系統]
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Deployed all over your country.
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監控國家的每一個角落
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["Up to hundreds of thousands of targets
Managed from a single spot"]
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[在同一個地點,
就能監控數以千計個目標]
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Exactly what we do.
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這正是我們拿手的
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Christopher Soghoian: So, it
would be funny if it wasn't true,
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克里斯多夫.索荷宜恩:
若這是虛構的,那它很有意思
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but, in fact, Hacking Team's software
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但事實上,駭客團隊的軟體
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is being sold to governments around the world.
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賣給了世界各國的政府
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Last year we learned, for example,
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舉個例子,去年我們得知
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that it's been used to target Moroccan
journalists by the Moroccan government.
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摩洛哥政府
使用這個科技來監聽記者
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Many, many countries it's been found in.
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許多國家都有類似的例子
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So, Hacking Team has also been actively courting
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因此,駭客團隊也面臨
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the U.S. law enforcement market.
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美國執法單位的關切
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In the last year or so, the company
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這家公司在去年左右
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has opened a sales office in Maryland.
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在馬里蘭州成立了銷售據點
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The company has also hired a spokesperson.
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也聘請了一名代言人
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They've been attending
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他們陸續參與
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surveillance industry conferences
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監控產業的研討會
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where law enforcement officials show up.
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執法官員也在現場
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They've spoken at the conferences.
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他們在研討會上發言
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What I thought was most fascinating was
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我覺得最有意思的是
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they've actually paid for the coffee break
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他們贊助會議休息時間的餐點
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at one of the law enforcement conferences
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那是一場法律研討會
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earlier this year.
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這是今年稍早的事情
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I can't tell you for sure that Hacking Team
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我無法確定駭客團隊
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has sold their technology in the United States,
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是否將他們的科技賣給了美國政府
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but what I can tell you that if they haven't sold it,
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但我可以確定的是,如果他們沒賣
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it isn't because they haven't been trying hard.
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這並不是因為他們沒有努力銷售
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So as I said before,
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如同我之前所說
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governments that don't really have the resources
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沒有能力自行設計的政府
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to build their own tools will buy
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將會去購買這些現成的監控軟體
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off-the-shelf surveillance software,
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and so for that reason,
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正因如此
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you see that the government of, say, Tunisia,
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譬如,突尼西亞政府
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might use the same software
as the government of Germany.
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以及德國政府,可能會使用相同軟體
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They're all buying off-the-shelf stuff.
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他們都購買現成的產品
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The Federal Bureau of
Investigation in the United States
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美國的聯邦調查局 (FBI)
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does have the budget to build
their own surveillance technology,
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擁有預算來自行發展監控科技
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and so for several years, I've been trying
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因此這些年以來
我嘗試去了解
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to figure out if and how the FBI
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FBI 是否能夠以及
如何入侵監控對象的電腦
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is hacking into the computers of surveillance targets.
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My friends at an organization called
the Electronic Frontier Foundation --
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我有朋友在電子領域基金會
(Electronic Frontier Foundation)
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they're a civil society group —
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這是一個公民社會組織
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obtained hundreds of documents from the FBI
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取得許多來自 FBI 的文件
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detailing their next generation
of surveillance technologies.
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內容描述他們下一代的監聽科技
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Most of these documents were heavily redacted,
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這些文件的內容大多被大量塗改
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but what you can see from the slides,
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但若我把它放大
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if I zoom in, is this term:
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你可以看到這個名詞:
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Remote Operations Unit.
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遠端營運單位
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Now, when I first looked into this,
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當我第一次看到這個
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I'd never heard of this unit before.
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我從未聽過這個單位
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I've been studying surveillance
for more than six years.
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我已經研究監聽超過 6 年了
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I'd never heard of it.
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但我從未聽過這個單位
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And so I went online and I did some research,
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因此我上網搜尋
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and ultimately I hit the mother lode
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最後我找到了答案
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when I went to LinkedIn,
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當我進入Linkedin網站
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the social networking site for job seekers.
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這是求職者會使用的社群網站
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There were lots of former
U.S. government contractors
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裡面有許多過去美國政府的外包商
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who had at one point worked
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這些人曾經
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for the Remote Operating Unit,
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任職於這個遠端營業單位
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and were describing in surprising detail on their CVs
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並且在他們的履歷上詳盡解釋
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what they had done in their former job.
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這份工作的內容
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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So I took this information
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我把這些資料
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and I gave it to a journalist that I know
and trust at the Wall Street Journal,
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交給了一名我信任的華爾街日報記者
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and she was able to contact several other
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她聯絡了一些
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former law enforcement officials
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過去的執法官員
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who spoke on background and confirmed
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這些人承認
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that yes, in fact, the FBI has a dedicated team
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FBI 的確有一個單位
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that does nothing but hack into the computers
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專門入侵監聽對象的電腦
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of surveillance targets.
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Like Gamma and Hacking Team,
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如同伽碼以及駭客團隊這樣的企業
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the FBI also has the capability
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FBI 也有能力
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to remotely activate webcams, microphones,
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遠端啟動網路攝影機、麥克風、
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steal documents, get web browsing information,
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竊取文件、取得網路瀏覽資料等
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the works.
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這樣的行為
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There's sort of a big problem
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這是一個很大的問題
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with governments going into hacking,
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政府可以入侵電腦
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and that's that terrorists, pedophiles,
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恐怖分子、有戀童癖的人、
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drug dealers, journalists and human rights activists
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販毒者、記者以及人權運動人士
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all use the same kinds of computers.
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都使用相同種類的電腦
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There's no drug dealer phone
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沒有販毒專用的電話
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and there's no journalist laptop.
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沒有記者專用的筆電
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We all use the same technology,
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我們都使用相同的科技
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and what that means then is that for governments
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而這代表的是
政府有能力入侵電腦
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to have the capability to hack into the computers
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of the real bad guys,
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那些真正是壞人的電腦
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they also have to have the capability
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政府也有能力
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to hack into our devices too.
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入侵我們的電腦
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So governments around the world
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因此全世界的政府
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have been embracing this technology.
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都在使用這項科技
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They've been embracing hacking
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他們都在使用監聽
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as a law enforcement technique,
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作為執法的工具
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but without any real debate.
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但並沒有人真正提出質疑
07:57
In the United States, where I live,
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在美國,我的國家
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there have been no congressional hearings.
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並沒有國會聽證
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There's no law that's been passed
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並沒有通過任何法律
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specifically authorizing this technique,
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專門授權這項科技
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and because of its power and potential for abuse,
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鑒於它的能力以及被濫用的可能性
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it's vital that we have an informed public debate.
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進行一個公開的討論是非常重要的
08:10
Thank you very much.
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非常謝謝
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(Applause)
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