Christopher Soghoian: Government surveillance — this is just the beginning

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2014-03-05 ・ TED


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Christopher Soghoian: Government surveillance — this is just the beginning

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The 2011 Arab Spring
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captured the attention of the world.
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It also captured the attention
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of authoritarian governments in other countries,
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who were worried that revolution would spread.
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To respond, they ramped up surveillance
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of activists, journalists and dissidents
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who they feared would inspire revolution
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in their own countries.
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One prominent Bahraini activist,
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who was arrested and tortured by his government,
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has said that the interrogators showed him
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transcripts of his telephone calls
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and text messages.
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Of course, it's no secret
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that governments are able to intercept telephone calls and text messages.
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It's for that reason that many activists
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specifically avoid using the telephone.
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Instead, they use tools like Skype,
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which they think are immune to interception.
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They're wrong.
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There have now been over the last few years
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an industry of companies
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who provide surveillance technology to governments,
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specifically technology that allows those governments
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to hack into the computers
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of surveillance targets.
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Rather than intercepting the communications as they go over the wire,
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instead they now hack into your computer,
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enable your webcam, enable your microphone,
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and steal documents from your computer.
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When the government of Egypt fell in 2011,
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activists raided the office of the secret police,
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and among the many documents they found
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was this document by the Gamma Corporation,
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by Gamma International.
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Gamma is a German company
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that manufactures surveillance software
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and sells it only to governments.
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It's important to note that most governments
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don't really have the in-house capabilities
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to develop this software.
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Smaller ones don't have the resources
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or the expertise,
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and so there's this market of Western companies
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who are happy to supply them with the tools
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and techniques for a price.
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Gamma is just one of these companies.
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I should note also that Gamma never actually sold
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their software to the Egyptian government.
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They'd sent them an invoice for a sale,
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but the Egyptians never bought it.
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Instead, apparently, the Egyptian government
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used a free demo version of Gamma's software.
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(Laughter)
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So this screenshot is from a sales video
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that Gamma produced.
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Really, they're just emphasizing
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in a relatively slick presentation
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the fact that the police can sort of sit
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in an air-conditioned office
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and remotely monitor someone
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without them having any idea that it's going on.
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You know, your webcam light won't turn on.
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There's nothing to indicate that the microphone is enabled.
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This is the managing director of Gamma International.
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His name is Martin Muench.
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There are many photos of Mr. Muench that exist.
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This is perhaps my favorite.
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I'm just going to zoom in a little bit onto his webcam.
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You can see there's a little sticker
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that's placed over his camera.
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He knows what kind of surveillance is possible,
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and so clearly he doesn't want it to be used
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against him.
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Muench has said that he intends
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for his software to be used
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to capture terrorists and locate pedophiles.
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Of course, he's also acknowledged that once
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the software has been sold to governments,
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he has no way of knowing how it can be used.
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Gamma's software has been located on servers
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in countries around the world,
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many with really atrocious track records
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and human rights violations.
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They really are selling their software around the world.
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Gamma is not the only company in the business.
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As I said, it's a $5 billion industry.
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One of the other big guys in the industry
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is an Italian company called Hacking Team.
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Now, Hacking Team has what is probably
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the slickest presentation.
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The video they've produced is very sexy,
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and so I'm going to play you a clip
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just so you can get a feel
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both for the capabilities of the software
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but also how it's marketed
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to their government clients.
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(Video) Narrator: You want to look through your target's eyes.
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(Music)
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You have to hack your target.
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["While your target is browsing the web, exchanging documents, receiving SMS, crossing the borders"]
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You have to hit many different platforms.
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["Windows, OS X, iOS, Android, Blackberry, Symbian, Linux"]
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You have to overcome encryption
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and capture relevant data.
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[Skype & encrypted calls, target location, messaging, relationships,
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web browsing, audio & video"]
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Being stealth and untraceable.
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["Immune to any protection system Hidden collection infrastructure"]
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Deployed all over your country.
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["Up to hundreds of thousands of targets Managed from a single spot"]
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Exactly what we do.
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Christopher Soghoian: So, it would be funny if it wasn't true,
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but, in fact, Hacking Team's software
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is being sold to governments around the world.
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Last year we learned, for example,
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that it's been used to target Moroccan journalists by the Moroccan government.
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Many, many countries it's been found in.
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So, Hacking Team has also been actively courting
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the U.S. law enforcement market.
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In the last year or so, the company
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has opened a sales office in Maryland.
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The company has also hired a spokesperson.
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They've been attending
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surveillance industry conferences
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where law enforcement officials show up.
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They've spoken at the conferences.
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What I thought was most fascinating was
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they've actually paid for the coffee break
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at one of the law enforcement conferences
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earlier this year.
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I can't tell you for sure that Hacking Team
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has sold their technology in the United States,
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but what I can tell you that if they haven't sold it,
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it isn't because they haven't been trying hard.
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So as I said before,
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governments that don't really have the resources
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to build their own tools will buy
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off-the-shelf surveillance software,
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and so for that reason,
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you see that the government of, say, Tunisia,
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might use the same software as the government of Germany.
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They're all buying off-the-shelf stuff.
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The Federal Bureau of Investigation in the United States
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does have the budget to build their own surveillance technology,
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and so for several years, I've been trying
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to figure out if and how the FBI
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is hacking into the computers of surveillance targets.
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My friends at an organization called the Electronic Frontier Foundation --
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they're a civil society group —
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obtained hundreds of documents from the FBI
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detailing their next generation of surveillance technologies.
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Most of these documents were heavily redacted,
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but what you can see from the slides,
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if I zoom in, is this term:
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Remote Operations Unit.
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Now, when I first looked into this,
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I'd never heard of this unit before.
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I've been studying surveillance for more than six years.
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I'd never heard of it.
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And so I went online and I did some research,
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and ultimately I hit the mother lode
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when I went to LinkedIn,
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the social networking site for job seekers.
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There were lots of former U.S. government contractors
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who had at one point worked
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for the Remote Operating Unit,
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and were describing in surprising detail on their CVs
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what they had done in their former job.
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(Laughter)
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So I took this information
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and I gave it to a journalist that I know and trust at the Wall Street Journal,
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and she was able to contact several other
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former law enforcement officials
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who spoke on background and confirmed
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that yes, in fact, the FBI has a dedicated team
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that does nothing but hack into the computers
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of surveillance targets.
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Like Gamma and Hacking Team,
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the FBI also has the capability
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to remotely activate webcams, microphones,
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steal documents, get web browsing information,
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the works.
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There's sort of a big problem
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with governments going into hacking,
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and that's that terrorists, pedophiles,
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drug dealers, journalists and human rights activists
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all use the same kinds of computers.
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There's no drug dealer phone
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and there's no journalist laptop.
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We all use the same technology,
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and what that means then is that for governments
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to have the capability to hack into the computers
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of the real bad guys,
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they also have to have the capability
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to hack into our devices too.
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So governments around the world
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have been embracing this technology.
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They've been embracing hacking
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as a law enforcement technique,
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but without any real debate.
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In the United States, where I live,
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there have been no congressional hearings.
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There's no law that's been passed
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specifically authorizing this technique,
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and because of its power and potential for abuse,
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it's vital that we have an informed public debate.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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