A life of purpose | Rick Warren

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譯者: Christina Yu 審譯者: Sunny Kan Ngai Hang
00:26
I'm often asked,
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常常有人問我,
00:28
"What surprised you about the book?"
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這本書最讓你驚訝的地方是什麼?
00:31
And I say, "That I got to write it."
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我回答,我能夠來寫這本書。
00:33
I would have never imagined that.
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我從沒想過,
00:36
Not in my wildest dreams did I think --
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再瘋狂的夢裡也沒有 -
00:38
I don't even consider myself to be an author.
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我從沒想過當個作家。
00:42
And I'm often asked,
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也常有人問我,
00:44
"Why do you think so many people have read this?
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你覺得為何有這麼多人讀這本書?
00:47
This thing's selling still about a million copies a month."
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到現在每個月還有大約一百萬本的銷量。
00:52
And I think it's because spiritual emptiness
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我認為這是由於心靈的空虛,
00:57
is a universal disease.
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已經成為普遍的通病。
00:59
I think inside at some point, we put our heads down on the pillow and we go,
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我想每個人都曾經把頭埋在枕頭裡,說:
01:03
"There's got to be more to life than this."
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「人生一定不只是這樣。」
01:06
Get up in the morning, go to work, come home and watch TV,
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早上起床,去上班,回家,看電視,
01:08
go to bed, get up in the morning, go to work, come home, watch TV, go to bed,
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上床睡覺,早上起床,去上班,回家,看電視,上床睡覺,
01:12
go to parties on weekends.
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週末去參加派對。
01:15
A lot of people say, "I'm living." No, you're not living -- that's just existing.
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很多人說:「我在過生活。」不,你不是在過生活 - 你只是活著。
只是活著。
01:19
Just existing.
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01:21
I really think that there's this inner desire.
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我真的認為有一種內在的渴求。
01:25
I do believe what Chris said; I believe that you're not an accident.
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我相信 Chris 剛才說的,我相信你的存在不是偶然的。
01:30
Your parents may not have planned you, but I believe God did.
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你的父母可能沒有計劃要生你,但是我相信神有。
01:34
I think there are accidental parents; there's no doubt about that.
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有的人是意外成為父母的,這是事實。
01:37
I don't think there are accidental kids.
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我不認為有「意外的小孩」。
01:40
And I think you matter.
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我認為你很重要。
01:43
I think you matter to God; I think you matter to history;
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我認為你對神很重要,我認為你對歷史很重要,
01:46
I think you matter to this universe.
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我認為你對這個宇宙很重要。
01:49
And I think that the difference
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我認為這些生活層次的差異:
01:52
between what I call the survival level of living, the success level of living,
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生存的層次、成功的層次、
01:57
and the significance level of living is:
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價值的層次,差異在於
01:59
Do you figure out, "What on Earth am I here for?"
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你知不知道你來到世上到底是為了什麼?
02:02
I meet a lot of people who are very smart,
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我見到過很多非常聰明的人,
02:05
and say, "But why can't I figure out my problems?"
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他們問:「可是為什麼我沒辦法解決自己的問題?」
02:09
And I meet a lot of people who are very successful,
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我也見過很多非常成功的人,
02:11
who say, "Why don't I feel more fulfilled?
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他們問:「為什麼我感覺不充實?
02:14
Why do I feel like a fake?
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為什麼我覺得自己很虛偽?
02:17
Why do I feel like I've got to pretend that I'm more than I really am?"
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為什麼我感覺
我必須假裝得比真正的自己更了不起?」
02:23
I think that comes down to this issue of meaning, of significance, of purpose.
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我認為這些最終都回歸到人生的意義、價值,人生的目的。
02:27
I think it comes down to this issue of:
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我認為這要回歸到
02:30
"Why am I here? What am I here for? Where am I going?"
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「我為什麼在這裡?我在這裡做什麼?我要往哪裡去?」
02:33
These are not religious issues.
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這些不是宗教問題 -
02:36
They're human issues.
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這些是人的問題。
02:40
I wanted to tell Michael before he spoke that I really appreciate what he does,
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我想對 Michael 說,
我很感謝他剛才所說的,
02:44
because it makes my life work a whole lot easier.
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因為這讓我的工作容易多了。
02:47
As a pastor, I do see a lot of kooks.
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身為牧師,我會遇到很多怪人。
02:51
And I have learned that there are kooks in every area of life.
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我發現在生活中的任何領域,都可能出現怪人。
02:55
Religion doesn't have a monopoly on that,
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宗教在這一方面
02:59
but there are plenty of religious kooks.
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沒有獨大的特權,但是的確有不少宗教怪人。
03:01
There are secular kooks; there are smart kooks, dumb kooks.
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也有非宗教的怪人、聰明的怪人、愚蠢的怪人。
03:05
There are people -- a lady came up to me the other day,
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有天一位女士來找我,
03:07
and she had a white piece of paper -- Michael, you'll like this one --
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拿著一張白紙 - Michael, 你一定會喜歡這個故事 -
她問:「你看到了什麼?」
03:11
and she said, "What do you see in it?"
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我看著那張白紙,說:「什麼也沒看到。」
03:13
And I looked at it and I said, "Oh, I don't see anything."
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03:15
And she goes, "Well, I see Jesus," and started crying and left.
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她說:「我看到耶穌。」然後哭著走了。
03:18
I'm going, "OK," you know? "Fine."
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我說,ok, 很好。
03:23
(Laughter)
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嗯,
03:25
Good for you.
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很好。
03:29
When the book became the best-selling book in the world for the last three years,
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過去這三年,這本書成為全球暢銷書,
我也面臨到自己的小危機。
03:33
I kind of had my little crisis.
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03:36
And that was: What is the purpose of this?
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那就是,這件事的目的是什麼?
03:40
Because it brought in enormous amounts of money.
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因為它帶來了龐大的金錢。
03:43
When you write the best-selling book in the world,
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當你寫出全世界最暢銷的書,
你會得到非常非常多的錢。
03:46
it's tons and tons of money.
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03:48
And it brought in a lot of attention, neither of which I wanted.
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還有很多的矚目,而這兩樣我都不想要。
03:52
When I started Saddleback Church, I was 25 years old.
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我 25 歲成立 Saddleback 教會,
03:55
I started it with one other family in 1980.
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我和另外一家人在 1980 年共同成立教會。
04:00
And I decided that I was never going to go on TV,
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我當時就決定我永遠不要上電視,
04:03
because I didn't want to be a celebrity.
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因為我不想成為名人,
04:04
I didn't want to be a, quote, "evangelist, televangelist" --
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我不想成為所謂的「福音派」、「電視福音派」-
04:08
that's not my thing.
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那不是我會做的事。
04:10
And all of the sudden, it brought a lot of money and a lot of attention.
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突然之間,這本書帶來很多的金錢和矚目。
04:15
I don't think --
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我不認為 -
04:16
now, this is a worldview,
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這是我的世界觀,我可以告訴你,每個人都有自己的世界觀。
04:18
and I will tell you, everybody's got a worldview.
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04:21
Everybody's betting their life on something.
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每個人都將自己的人生押注在某件事物上。
04:23
You're betting your life on something,
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你也將你自己的人生押注在某件事物上 -
04:24
you just better know why you're betting what you're betting on.
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你最好弄清楚自己為什麼押注在你所押注的這件事物上。
04:28
So, everybody's betting their life on something.
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每個人都將自己的人生押注在某件事物上,
04:31
And when I, you know, made a bet,
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而我下注的時候,我就是相信
04:35
I happened to believe that Jesus was who he said he was.
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耶穌就是他自己所稱的那個人。
04:39
And I believe in a pluralistic society,
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不過每個人都有 - 我相信在多元化的社會裡 -
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everybody's betting on something.
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每個人都押注在某件事物上。
04:45
And when I started the church,
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我成立教會的時候,
04:48
you know, I had no plans to do what it's doing now.
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我並沒有計劃要做教會現在做的這些事情。
04:53
And then when I wrote this book,
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當我寫完這本書,
04:55
and all of a sudden, it just took off,
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突然之間
大受歡迎,
04:59
and I started saying, now, what's the purpose of this?
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我開始問,這件事的目的是什麼?
因為我從來不認為,
05:02
Because as I started to say,
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05:03
I don't think you're given money or fame
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你能得到金錢或名氣,
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for your own ego, ever.
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目的是滿足你的自我意識。
我就是不相信。
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I just don't believe that.
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05:11
And when you write a book that the first sentence of the book is,
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當你寫了一本書,書裡的第一句話是:
05:14
"It's not about you,"
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「生命的重心不是在你」,
然後,突然之間
05:17
then, when all of a sudden it becomes the best-selling book in history,
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這本書成為史上最暢銷的書籍,
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you've got to figure, well, I guess it's not about me.
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你應該要明白,這件事的重點不是在於你。
05:23
That's kind of a no-brainer.
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不用動腦筋也該想到。
05:26
So, what is it for?
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所以,究竟是為了什麼?
05:28
And I began to think about what I call the "stewardship of affluence"
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我開始思考「財富的代管人」,
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and the "stewardship of influence."
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以及「影響力的代管人」。
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So I believe, essentially, leadership is stewardship.
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我相信身為領導者,是要作代管人。
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That if you are a leader in any area --
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如果你在任何領域居領導地位 -
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in business, in politics, in sports, in art,
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在商界、政壇、體育、藝術、
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in academics, in any area --
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學術界,任何領域 -
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you don't own it.
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你並不是所有者,
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You are a steward of it.
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而是代管人。
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For instance, that's why I believe in protecting the environment.
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舉例來說,這就是我為什麼相信環保。
05:55
This is not my planet.
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這個地球不是屬於我的。在我出生之前它不是我的,
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It wasn't mine before I was born, it's not going to be mine after I die,
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在我死後它也不會是我的。
06:00
I'm just here for 80 years and then that's it.
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我在這裡只會待上 80 年,僅此而已。
06:03
I was debating the other day on a talk show,
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有天我上談話節目進行辯論,
06:07
and the guy was challenging me and he'd go,
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挑戰我論點的人說:
06:09
"What's a pastor doing on protecting the environment?"
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「牧師跟環境保護有什麼關係?」
06:12
And I asked this guy, I said, "Well, do you believe
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我問他:「你相不相信
06:16
that human beings are responsible
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人類有責任
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to make the world a little bit better place for the next generation?
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為了下一代使這個世界變得更好?
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Do you think we have a stewardship here, to take the environment seriously?"
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你認為我們是不是應該負起代管人的責任,
認真看待環境議題?」
06:29
And he said, "No."
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他回答:「不。」
06:31
I said, "Oh, you don't?"
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我說:「你不這樣認為?讓我再問一次。
06:32
I said, "Let me make this clear again:
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06:34
Do you believe that as human beings -- I'm not talking about religion --
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你相不相信身為人類 - 我不是在談論宗教 -
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do you believe that as human beings, it is our responsibility
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你相不相信身為人類,我們有責任
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to take care of this planet,
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為了下一代來照顧地球,使它變得稍微好一點?」
06:42
and make it just a little bit better for the next generation?"
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他說:「不。
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And he said, "No. Not any more than any other species."
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我們的責任不比其它物種的大。」
06:50
When he said the word "species," he was revealing his worldview.
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當他說出「物種」,就顯露了他的世界觀。
06:54
And he was saying,
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他說:「我對環境保護的責任,
06:55
"I'm no more responsible to take care of this environment than a duck is."
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並不比一隻鴨子該負的責任大。」
07:00
Well now, I know a lot of times we act like ducks,
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有時候我們的行為的確很像鴨子,
07:03
but you're not a duck.
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但你並不是鴨子。
07:05
You're not a duck.
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你不是一隻鴨子。
07:07
And you are responsible -- that's my worldview.
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而且你有責任 - 這是我的世界觀。
07:11
And so, you need to understand what your worldview is.
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所以,你需要了解你的世界觀是什麼。
07:15
The problem is most people never really think it through.
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問題是,大多數的人從來沒有把自己的世界觀想清楚。
07:19
They never really ...
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他們從來沒有真正地把它
07:23
codify it or qualify it or quantify it,
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條理化,或定義它,或量化它,
07:27
and say, "This is what I believe in. This is why I believe what I believe."
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然後說:「這就是我所相信的。
這就是我為什麼相信我所相信的。」
07:31
I don't personally have enough faith to be an atheist.
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對我個人來說,我沒有足夠的信心成為無神論者。
07:35
But you may, you may.
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但是你可能有。
07:38
Your worldview, though, does determine everything else in your life,
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然而,你的世界觀,將會影響你生命中的所有一切,
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because it determines your decisions;
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因為它將影響你的決定,
07:44
it determines your relationships;
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影響你的人際關係,
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it determines your level of confidence.
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影響你的自信心。
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It determines, really, everything in your life.
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它真的會影響你生命中的所有事。
07:53
What we believe, obviously --
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我們所相信的,顯然 -
07:55
and you know this -- determines our behavior,
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你也很清楚 - 影響我們的行為,
07:57
and our behavior determines what we become in life.
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而我們的行為將決定我們生命的樣貌。
08:03
So all of this money started pouring in,
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所以當這些錢開始湧進來,
08:06
and all of this fame started pouring in.
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名聲開始湧進來,
08:10
And I'm going, what do I do with this?
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我想,我要拿它怎麼辦?
08:13
My wife and I first made five decisions on what to do with the money.
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我太太和我為這些錢的用途做了 5 個決定。
08:18
We said, "First, we're not going to use it on ourselves."
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我們決定,第一點,
我們不會把這些錢用在我們自己身上。
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I didn't go out and buy a bigger house.
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我沒有去買更大的房子。
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I don't own a guesthouse.
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我也沒買下旅館。
08:26
I still drive the same four year-old Ford that I've driven.
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我還是開著同一台車齡四年的福特車。
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We just said, we're not going to use it on us.
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我們就是不要把這些錢用在自己身上。
08:33
The second thing was,
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第二點,
08:36
I stopped taking a salary from the church that I pastor.
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我不再從我牧養的教會支取薪資。
08:40
Third thing is, I added up all that the church had paid me
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第三點,我算出過去 25 年教會付給我的薪資總額,
08:43
over the last 25 years, and I gave it back.
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然後還給教會。
08:46
And I gave it back because I didn't want anybody thinking
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我還給教會,是因為我不希望有人認為
08:49
that I do what I do for money -- I don't.
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我做這些事是為了錢 - 我不是。
08:51
In fact, personally, I've never met
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說真的,我個人從來沒有見過
08:55
a priest or a pastor or a minister who does it for money.
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教士或牧師為了錢而做這份工作。
08:58
I know that's the stereotype; I've never met one of them.
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我知道有這種刻板印象存在。我一個也沒遇過。
09:01
Believe me, there's a whole lot easier ways to make money.
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相信我,有太多更容易賺錢的方法了。
09:05
Pastors are like on 24 hours-a-day call, they're like doctors.
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牧師要 24 小時待命,就像醫生一樣。
09:09
I left late today -- I'd hoped to be here yesterday --
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我今天來得晚了,我原先希望昨天就來的,
09:13
because my father-in-law is in his last, probably, 48 hours
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因為現在可能是我岳父生命的最後 48 小時,
09:16
before he dies of cancer.
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他隨時可能死於癌症。
09:18
And I'm watching a guy who's lived his life --
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我看著這個人過完自己的一生 -
09:21
he's now in his mid-80s -- and he's dying with peace.
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他現在八十幾歲 -
面對死亡,心裡平和。你知道嗎,要考驗你的世界觀,
09:24
You know, the test of your worldview is not how you act in the good times.
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不是看你在順境中如何應對。
09:30
The test of your worldview is how you act at the funeral.
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要考驗你的世界觀,要看你在喪禮時的應對。
09:35
And having been through literally hundreds if not thousands of funerals,
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在參加過幾百場,甚至上千場喪禮之後,
09:39
it makes a difference.
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我知道這真的有差別。
09:41
It makes a difference what you believe.
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你相信什麼,會產生分別的。
09:44
So, we gave it all back,
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所以,我們把薪資還給教會,
09:48
and then we set up three foundations,
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然後成立了三個基金會,
09:51
working on some of the major problems of the world:
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針對世界上的一些重大問題:
09:53
illiteracy, poverty, pandemic diseases -- particularly HIV/AIDS --
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文盲、貧窮、流行疫症 - 尤其是 HIV/AIDS --
09:59
and set up these three foundations, and put the money into that.
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成立了三個基金會,
把錢用在這裡。
10:03
The last thing we did is we became what I call "reverse tithers."
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最後一點,我們開始「逆向什一奉獻」。
10:07
And that is, when my wife and I got married 30 years ago,
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我太太和我剛結婚的時候,
那是 30 年前,
10:15
we started tithing.
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我們開始什一奉獻。
10:17
Now, that's a principle in the Bible
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這是聖經裡教導的一項原則,
10:20
that says give 10 percent of what you get back to charity,
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將所得的十分之一捐出來,
10:23
give it away to help other people.
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幫助其他人。
10:25
So, we started doing that, and each year we would raise our tithe one percent.
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我們開始這樣做,而且每一年增加百分之一。
10:29
So, our first year of marriage we went to 11 percent,
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所以我們結婚一年後,開始奉獻 11%,
10:32
second year we went to 12 percent,
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結婚兩年後,奉獻 12%,
10:34
and the third year we went to 13 percent,
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結婚三年後,奉獻 13%,
10:36
and on and on and on.
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以此類推。為什麼我要這麼做呢?
10:39
Why did I do that?
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10:40
Because every time I give,
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因為每一次我奉獻,
10:42
it breaks the grip of materialism in my life.
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我就能掙脫物質對我生活的綑綁。
10:46
Materialism is all about getting -- get, get, get, get all you can,
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物質主義就是要得到東西 - 要、要、要,越多越好,
10:50
can all you get, sit on the can and spoil the rest.
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越要越多,貪得無厭。
10:54
It's all about more, having more.
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唯一的目標就是要擁有更多。
10:58
And we think that the good life is actually looking good --
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我們認為好的生活是,看上去很體面。
11:02
that's most important of all --
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這是最重要的 - 看起來體面,
11:04
looking good, feeling good and having the goods.
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感覺很好,擁有物質的滿足。
11:08
But that's not the good life.
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但這並不是好的生活。
11:10
I meet people all the time who have those, and they're not necessarily happy.
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我常見到擁有全部這些的人,
但他們不見得快樂。
11:14
If money actually made you happy,
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如果金錢能使人快樂,
11:17
then the wealthiest people in the world would be the happiest.
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那麼世界上最有錢的人應該是最快樂的人。
11:19
And that I know, personally, I know, is not true.
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而我知道,親身見證,並不真是這樣。
11:22
It's just not true.
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並不是這樣。
11:25
So, the good life is not about looking good, feeling good or having the goods,
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所以,好的生活並不是看起來體面、感覺很好、物質上滿足,
11:28
it's about being good and doing good.
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而是做好人、做好事。
11:32
Giving your life away.
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奉獻你的人生。
11:34
Significance in life doesn't come from status,
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人生的價值並不是來自地位,
11:38
because you can always find somebody who's got more than you.
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因為總是有其他人的地位高過你。
11:41
It doesn't come from sex.
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也不是來自性愛、
11:42
It doesn't come from salary.
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不是來自薪資。
11:45
It comes from serving.
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是來自於服務。
11:47
It is in giving our lives away that we find meaning,
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只有在奉獻人生時,我們才能發現它的意義,
11:50
we find significance.
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找到人生的價值。
11:52
That's the way we were wired, I believe, by God.
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我們生來就是這樣,我相信是神這樣設計的。
11:57
And so we began to give away,
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我太太和我開始奉獻,
12:00
and now after 30 years,
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到現在過了 30 年後,
12:02
my wife and I are reverse tithers -- we give away 90 percent and live on 10.
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我們開始逆向什一奉獻,奉獻 90%, 靠 10% 過活。
12:07
That, actually, was the easy part.
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這是簡單的部份。
12:08
The hard part is, what do I do with all this attention?
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困難的是,我該拿這些矚目的目光怎麼辦?
12:12
Because I started getting all kinds of invitations.
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因為我開始接到各式各樣的邀請。
12:15
I just came off a nearly month-long speaking tour
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我剛結束長達一個月的巡迴演講,
12:19
on three different continents,
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行程涵蓋三大洲,
12:21
and I won't go into that,
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我不打算談細節,
12:23
but it was an amazing thing.
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但它的確是很不可思議的事情。
12:26
And I'm going, what do I do with this notoriety
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所以我在想,我該怎麼樣
應付這本書帶來的知名度?
12:30
that the book has brought?
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12:32
And, being a pastor, I started reading the Bible.
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身為牧師,我開始讀聖經。
12:36
There's a chapter in the Bible called Psalm 72,
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聖經裡有一個章節,詩篇第 72 篇,
12:39
and it's Solomon's prayer for more influence.
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這是所羅門王的祈禱文,祈求得到更大的影響力。
12:43
When you read this prayer,
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當你讀到這篇祈禱文,
12:45
it sounds incredibly selfish, self-centered.
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它聽起來非常自私、自我中心。
他像是在說,
12:49
He says, "God, I want you to make me famous."
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「神啊,我要你讓我出名。」
12:51
That's what he prays.
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這就是他的禱告。
12:53
He said, "I want you to make me famous.
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他說:我要你讓我出名。
12:54
I want you to spread the fame of my name through every land,
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我要你讓我的名聲傳遍各國,
12:57
I want you to give me power.
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我要你給我權力,
我要你讓我出名,
13:01
I want you to make me famous, I want you to give me influence."
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我要你給我影響力。
13:04
And it just sounds like the most egotistical request you could make,
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這聽起來像是你所能想到的
最自我中心的禱告祈求。
13:08
if you were going to pray.
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13:10
Until you read the whole psalm, the whole chapter.
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不過當你讀完整篇,整個章節,
13:13
And then he says, "So that the king ..." --
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他說,好讓國王 -
13:15
he was the king of Israel at that time, at its apex in power --
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他是當時的以色列王,那是以色列最昌盛的時候 -
13:20
"... so that the king may care for the widow and orphan,
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好讓國王可以照顧孤兒和寡婦,
13:24
support the oppressed, defend the defenseless, care for the sick,
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扶持受壓迫的、保衛無法自保的、照顧患病的、
13:28
assist the poor, speak up for the foreigner,
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幫助窮苦的、為外族人
13:32
those in prison."
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和遭監禁的發聲。
13:34
Basically, he's talking about all the marginalized in society.
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他在談社會的弱勢族群。
13:37
And as I read that,
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當我讀到這裡,
13:39
I looked at it, and I thought, you know,
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我看著它,我想到,
13:42
what this is saying is that the purpose of influence is to speak up
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這是在說,影響力的目的
13:46
for those who have no influence.
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是為那些沒有力量的人發聲。
13:50
The purpose of influence is not to build your ego.
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影響力的目的不是要抬高你的自我意識,
13:55
Or your net worth.
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或你的個人身價。
13:57
And, by the way, your net worth is not the same thing as your self-worth.
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順帶一提,你的個人身價
跟你的個人價值是完全不同的。
14:00
Your value is not based on your valuables.
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你的價值並不是取決於你擁有的物品價值,
14:06
It's based on a whole different set of things.
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而是取決於完全不同的一套價值標準。
14:08
And so the purpose of influence is to speak up
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所以影響力的目的,
14:11
for those who have no influence.
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是為沒有力量的人發聲。
14:13
And I had to admit:
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而我必須承認,
14:15
I can't think of the last time I thought of widows and orphans.
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我不記得我上次想到孤兒和寡婦是什麼時候。
14:18
They're not on my radar.
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他們不在我的關注範圍內。
14:21
I pastor a church in one of the most affluent areas of America --
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我所牧養的教會位於美國最富裕的地區之一 -
14:24
a bunch of gated communities.
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有很多設有門禁的高級社區,
14:26
I have a church full of CEOs and scientists.
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教會裡有許多 CEO 和科學家。
14:30
And I could go five years and never, ever see a homeless person.
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我可能五年也遇不到一個遊民。
14:35
They're just not in my pathway.
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他們就是不在我的活動範圍內。
14:37
Now, they're 13 miles up the road in Santa Ana.
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他們可能在離我 13 英里遠的 Santa Ana 區。
14:41
So I had to say, ok,
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所以我必須決定,
14:44
I would use whatever affluence and whatever influence I've got
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我要運用我所得到的財富和影響力,
14:47
to help those who don't have either of those.
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去幫助那些兩樣都沒有的人。
14:52
You know, there's a story in the Bible about Moses,
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聖經中有個關於摩西的故事。
14:55
whether you believe it's true or not, it really doesn't matter to me.
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不管你相不相信它是真實的 -
我真的不在乎。
14:58
But Moses, if you saw the movie, "The Ten Commandments,"
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如果你看過電影《十誡》,
15:01
Moses goes out, and there's this burning bush, and God talks to him,
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摩西走到外面,有一叢燃燒的樹叢,然後神對他說話。
15:04
and God says, "Moses, what's in your hand?"
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神說:「摩西,
你手裡有什麼?」
15:10
I think that's one of the most important questions you'll ever be asked:
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我想這是你會被問到的最重要的問題之一。
你手裡有什麼?
15:14
What's in your hand?
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15:16
Moses says, "It's a staff. It's a shepherd's staff."
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摩西說:「一根手杖。」
那是一根牧羊人的手杖。
15:21
And God says, "Throw it down."
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神說:「把它丟下。」
15:22
And if you saw the movie, you know, he throws it down and it becomes a snake.
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如果你看過電影,他把手杖丟下,它變成了一條蛇。
15:29
And then God says, "Pick it up."
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然後神說:「把它撿起來。」
15:32
And he picks it back up again,
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然後他把它撿起來,
15:34
and it becomes a staff again.
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它又變回一根手杖。
15:37
Now, I'm reading this thing, and I'm going, what is that all about?
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我讀到這裡,我想,這到底是要說什麼?
15:41
OK. What's that all about? Well, I do know a couple of things.
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到底在說什麼?好,我知道幾件事情。
15:44
Number one, God never does a miracle to show off.
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第一,神施行神蹟,從來不是為了炫耀。
15:48
It's not just, "Wow, isn't that cool?"
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絕不只是,「哇,很酷!」
15:50
And, by the way, my God doesn't have to show up on cheese bread.
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還有,我的神不需要顯現在乳酪麵包上。
15:53
You know, if God's going to show up, he's not going to show up on cheese bread.
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如果神要顯現,
他不會顯現在乳酪麵包上。
15:57
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
好嗎?這就是為什麼我喜歡 Michael 剛才做的,
15:59
Ok? I just, this is why I love what Michael does,
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16:01
because it's like, if he's debunking it, then I don't have to.
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因為如果他已經揭穿那些伎倆,我就不用再做一次。
16:06
But God -- my God -- doesn't show up on sprinkler images.
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但是神 - 我的神 - 不會顯現在灑水器的圖像上。
16:10
He's got a few more powerful ways than that to do whatever he wants to do.
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他有一些比這更高明的方法
可以完成任何他要做的事。
16:15
But he doesn't do miracles just to show off.
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但是他行神蹟絕不只是為了炫耀。
16:18
Second thing is, if God ever asks you a question,
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第二,如果神問你問題,
16:20
he already knows the answer.
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他早已經知道答案是什麼了。
16:22
Obviously, if he's God, then that would mean
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因為他是神。這就表示
16:24
that when he asks the question, it's for your benefit, not his.
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神問你問題,是為了你好,不是為他自己。
16:28
So he's going, "What's in your hand?"
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神問:「你手裡有什麼?」
16:30
Now, what was in Moses' hand?
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摩西手裡有什麼?
16:32
Well, it was a shepherd's staff. Now, follow me on this.
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有一根牧羊人的手杖。聽我解釋。
16:36
This staff represented three things about Moses' life.
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這根手杖代表摩西生命中的三樣東西。
16:39
First, it represented his identity; he was a shepherd.
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首先,它代表他的身份。
他是牧羊人。這是他職業的象徵。
16:43
It's the symbol of his own occupation:
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16:46
I am a shepherd.
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我是牧羊人。這是他的身份、事業、工作的象徵。
16:48
It's a symbol of his identity, his career, his job.
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16:51
Second, it's a symbol of not only his identity,
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第二,這不只象徵他的身份,
16:54
it's a symbol of his income, because all of his assets are tied up in sheep.
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也代表了他的收入,因為他所有的資產都在羊群身上。
16:58
In those days, nobody had bank accounts, or American Express cards, or hedge funds.
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那個年代沒有人有銀行戶頭,
或是美國運通信用卡,或避險基金。
17:03
Your assets are tied up in your flocks.
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你的資產都在你的羊群身上。
17:06
So it's a symbol of his identity, and it's a symbol of his income.
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所以那是他身份的象徵,也是收入的象徵。
17:09
And the third thing: it's a symbol of his influence.
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第三點:那象徵著他的影響力。
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What do you do with a shepherd's staff?
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牧羊人的手杖是用來做什麼的?
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Well, you know, you move sheep from point A to point B with it,
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你可以拿手杖將羊從 A 點趕到 B 點,
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by hook or by crook.
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杖頭、杖尾都用得上,
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You pull them or you poke them. One or the other.
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用拉的或用趕的,各種方法。
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So, he's saying,
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所以,神是在說:
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"You're going to lay down your identity.
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「你要放下你的身份。
17:30
What's in your hand?
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你手裡有什麼?你有身份,你有收入,你有影響力。
17:31
You've got identity, you've got income, you've got influence.
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What's in your hand?"
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你手裡有什麼?」
17:36
And he's saying, "If you lay it down, I'll make it come alive.
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然後他說:「如果你把它放下,我會將它變成活物。
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I'll do some things you could never imagine possible."
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我將要成就超乎你想像的事情。」
17:42
And if you've watched that movie, "Ten Commandments,"
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如果你看過《十誡》這部電影,
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all of those big miracles that happen in Egypt are done through this staff.
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所有在埃及發生的奇蹟
都是透過這根手杖完成的。
17:51
Last year, I was invited to speak at the NBA All-Stars game.
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去年,我受邀在 NBA 明星賽上演講。
17:56
And so, I'm talking to the players,
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我對球員們演講,
18:00
because most of the NBA teams, NFL teams and all the other teams
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因為大多數 NBA, NFL 和其他聯盟的球隊,
18:04
have done this 40 Days of Purpose, based on the book.
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都根據這本書完成了標竿人生 40 天課程。
18:07
And I asked them, I said, "What's in your hand?
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我問這些球員:「你手裡有什麼?
18:12
So, what's in your hand?" I said, "It's a basketball.
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你手裡有什麼?」我說:「你手裡有籃球,
18:16
And that basketball represents your identity, who you are:
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這顆籃球代表你的身份,代表你是誰。
18:20
you're an NBA player.
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你是 NBA 球員。它代表你的收入。
18:21
It represents your income:
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18:23
you're making a lot of money off that little ball.
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你靠這顆小球可以賺進很多的錢。
18:26
And it represents your influence.
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它也代表你的影響力。
18:28
And even though you're only going to be in the NBA for a few years,
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即使你在 NBA 的時間只有短短幾年,
18:31
you're going to be an NBA player for the rest of your life.
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但是你一輩子都是 NBA 球員。
18:34
And that gives you enormous influence.
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這讓你擁有極大的影響力。
18:37
So, what are you going to do with what you've been given?"
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所以,你要怎麼運用你所得到的這些東西?」
18:41
And I guess that's the main reason I came up here today,
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我想這也是我今天來到這裡的主要原因,
18:46
to all of you very bright people at TED --
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與各位非常聰明的 TED 會員見面,
18:49
it is to say, "What's in your hand?"
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就是要問:「你手裡有什麼?」
18:53
What do you have that you've been given?
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你已經得到的有什麼?
18:57
Talent, background, education,
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天份、背景、教育、
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freedom, networks, opportunities,
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自由、人脈、機會、
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wealth, ideas, creativity.
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財富、想法、創意。
19:08
What are you doing with what you've been given?
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你要怎麼樣運用
你所得到的這些東西?
19:12
That, to me, is the primary question about life.
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對我而言,這是人生中最重要的問題。
19:16
That, to me, is what being purpose-driven is all about.
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對我而言,這就是為人生目的而活。
19:20
In the book, I talk about how you're wired to do certain things,
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在書中,我談到你如何生來就適合做某些事,如何受塑造 (SHAPE),
19:24
you're "SHAPED" with -- a little acrostic: Spiritual gifts, Heart,
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包括靈性恩賜 (Spiritual gifts), 心 (Heart),
19:27
Ability, Personality and Experiences.
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能力 (Ability), 性格 (Personality) 和經歷 (Experiences).
19:30
These things shape you.
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這些元素塑造了你。
19:32
And if you want to know what you ought to be doing with your life,
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如果你想知道你在人生中應該做些什麼,
你需要看看自己的樣貌 (SHAPE), 想想我生來適合做什麼?
19:35
you need to look at your shape -- "What am I wired to do?"
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19:38
Why would God wire you to do something and then not have you do it?
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神怎麼會把你生成適合做某些事情,
卻不讓你去做?
19:41
If you're wired to be an anthropologist, you'll be an anthropologist.
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如果你生來該做人類學家,你就會成為人類學家。
19:44
If you're wired to be an undersea explorer,
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如果你生來該做海底探勘員,
19:46
you'll be an undersea explorer.
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你就會成為海底探勘員。
19:48
If you're wired to make deals, you make deals.
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如果你生來該做買賣,就去做買賣。
19:50
If you're wired to paint, you paint.
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如果你生來該畫畫,就去畫畫。
19:53
Did you know that God smiles when you be you?
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你知道當你做自己的時候,神會為你微笑嗎?
19:57
When my little kids -- when my kids were little --
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我的孩子還小的時候 -
19:59
they're all grown now, I have grandkids --
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他們都大了,我已經有孫子了 -
20:01
I used to go in and sit on the side of their bed,
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我以前會坐在他們的床邊,
看著我的孩子們睡覺。
20:04
and I used to watch my kids sleep.
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20:07
And I just watched their little bodies rise and lower, rise and lower.
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我看著他們小小的身體一起一伏,
一起、一伏。
20:12
And I would look at them: "This is not an accident."
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我看著他們,想著:這絕不是偶然。
20:15
Rise and lower.
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一起、一伏。
20:18
And I got joy out of just watching them sleep.
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光是看著他們睡覺,我就感到喜悅。
20:24
Some people have the misguided idea that God only gets excited
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有的人有種誤解,認為神只有在你做
20:27
when you're doing, quote, "spiritual things,"
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所謂「有靈性的事」的時候才會開心,
20:29
like going to church or helping the poor,
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像是上教會、幫助窮人,
20:32
or, you know, confessing or doing something like that.
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或是懺悔之類的事情。
20:36
The bottom line is, God gets pleasure watching you be you.
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其實,神看到你做自己的時候就感到愉悅。為什麼?
20:40
Why? He made you.
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他創造了你。當你做你生來該做的事情,
20:42
And when you do what you were made to do,
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20:45
he goes, "That's my boy! That's my girl!
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他會說:「這才是我的好孩子。
這才是我的好女孩。
20:49
You're using the talent and ability that I gave you."
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你在運用我給你的天份和才能。」
20:53
So my advice to you is:
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我想建議你,
20:55
look at what's in your hand --
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看看你手裡有什麼 -
20:57
your identity, your influence, your income --
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你的身份、你的影響力、你的收入 -
21:01
and say, "It's not about me.
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然後說:「人生的重心不是我自己,
21:04
It's about making the world a better place."
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而是怎麼讓世界變得更好。」
謝謝各位。
21:08
Thank you.
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