Gabriel Barcia-Colombo: My DNA vending machine

65,968 views ・ 2014-03-06

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譯者: 杏儀 歐陽 審譯者: Marssi Draw
00:12
This is a vending machine in Los Angeles.
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這是在洛杉磯的一部自動販賣機,
00:14
It's in a shopping mall, and it sells fish eggs.
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在一個大型購物商城,販賣魚卵。
00:17
It's a caviar-vending machine.
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這是一部魚子醬販賣機。
00:21
This is the Art-o-mat, an art-vending machine
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這是一部Art-o-mat,
即另一類自動販賣機,
00:23
that sells small artistic creations by different artists,
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販賣不同藝術家創作的小藝術品,
00:26
usually on small wood blocks or matchboxes, in limited edition.
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賣的通常為小型木刻或者火柴盒,
這些藝術品都為限量版。
00:30
This is Oliver Medvedik.
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這是奧利弗•馬凡迪。他不是一部自動販賣機,
00:31
He is not a vending machine, but he is one of the founders of Genspace,
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但是,他是基因空間(Genspace)的創建人之一。
基因空間是紐約布魯克林的一所社區生物實驗室,
00:35
a community biolab in Brooklyn, New York,
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人人都可以去那裡上課,
00:37
where anybody can go and take classes
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學習各類東西,諸如培育 在暗處發光的大腸桿菌,
00:38
and learn how to do things like grow E. coli that glows in the dark
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或者如何萃取草莓的DNA。
00:42
or learn how to take strawberry DNA.
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00:43
In fact, I saw Oliver do one of these strawberry DNA extractions
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老實說,一年前我看過奧利弗萃取草莓DNA,
00:46
about a year ago, and this is what led me into this bizarre path
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而這就是我的奇思怪想之始,
也是今日我將為大家講解的主題。
00:50
that I'm going to talk to you right now.
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因為草莓DNA實在是叫人著迷, 因為這實在是太漂亮了。
00:51
Strawberry DNA is really fascinating, because it's so beautiful.
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以前我從來不知道DNA是如此美麗動人,
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I'd never thought about DNA being a beautiful thing before,
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因為我未見過DNA的這種形態。
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before I saw it in this form.
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很多人,特別是藝術圈內的人,
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A lot of people, especially in the art community,
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不見得會以此方式涉入科學領域。
01:01
don't necessarily engage in science in this way.
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此後我很快就加入了基因空間,
01:03
I instantly joined Genspace after this,
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我問奧利弗:「哎,既然我們能做草莓的,
01:05
and asked Oliver, "If we can do this with strawberries,
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我們能不能做人的DNA呢?」
大概十分鐘後,
01:08
can we do this with people?"
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01:09
About 10 minutes later, we were both spitting in vials,
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我們兩人已經將DNA放入瓶子裡面做分離,
即得出人類DNA萃取物的雛形。
01:12
coming up with a protocol for human DNA extraction.
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我獨自開始做這件事,
01:14
I started doing this on my own.
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而這個,是我的DNA的容貌。
01:16
This is what my DNA actually looks like.
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有一次我跟朋友聚餐,藝術圈內的朋友,
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And I was at a dinner party with some artist friends,
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我跟他們介紹我的計畫,
01:21
and I was telling them about this project,
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他們不相信真的可以看見DNA。
01:23
and they couldn't believe that you could actually see DNA.
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01:25
So I said, all right, let's get out some supplies right now.
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於是我就說,好吧,我們現在就做一些出來。
之後,我家開始有這些稀奇古怪的週五晚聚餐,
01:28
And I started having these bizarre dinner parties on Friday nights,
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人們都會過來,
01:31
where people would come over and we'd do DNA extractions,
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然後一起萃取DNA,
01:34
and I would capture them on video,
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我把這些人都一一拍下來,
這樣我就可以同時得到這類古靈精怪的表情。
01:36
because it created this kind of funny portrait as well.
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01:38
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
這些人啊,通常情況下,
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These are people who don't necessarily regularly engage with science.
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都不會跟科學領域打交道。
01:44
You can kind of tell from their reactions.
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你大概也可以從他們的反應看出來。
01:47
(Laughter)
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01:48
But they became fascinated by it,
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但是他們對這件事很著迷,
01:50
and it was really exciting for me to see them get excited about science.
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而我自己也很興奮看到他們
開始對科學感興趣。
01:53
And so I started doing this regularly.
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之後我開始定期進行舉辦這個活動。
01:56
(Laughter)
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每週五晚做這事情,的確有點奇怪,
01:57
It's an odd thing to do with your Friday nights,
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但這就是我開始做的事,
02:00
but this is what I started doing.
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我也開始用小瓶子收集
02:01
I started collecting a whole group of my friends' DNA in small vials
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我這幫朋友的DNA,
並且進行分類。
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and categorizing them.
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這就是他們的DNA。
02:06
This is what that looked like.
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由此我也開始考慮一些事情。
02:07
And it started to make me think about a couple of things.
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首先,這看上去很像我的臉書牆。
02:10
First, this looked a lot like my Facebook wall.
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所以呢,我大概也創造了一個基因網,
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So in a way, I created sort of a genetic social network.
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一個真正的基因社交網。
02:15
And the second thing was,
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而第二件事呢,有次一個朋友過來,
02:16
one time a friend came over and looked at this on my table
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看了我桌子上的這些東西,就問:
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and was like, "Uh ... why are they numbered?
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「噢,為什麼編號了?是不是因為 這個人的基因比另外一個罕見?」
02:22
Is this person more rare than the other one?"
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我從來沒想過這問題。
02:24
And I hadn't even thought about that.
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DNA編號是因為我就是按這個順序萃取DNA的。
02:26
They were just numbered
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02:27
because that was the order that I extracted the DNA in.
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但是這讓我想到收集玩具,
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But that made me think about collecting toys,
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而現在這事情,就好像
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and what's going on right now in the toy world with blind box toys,
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在玩具世界,玩具盒裡藏著未知的玩具,
大家能夠收集到一些稀有的玩具。
02:35
and being able to collect these rare toys.
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你買了這些玩具盒,但是你不知道盒子裡有什麼玩具。
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You buy these boxes, but aren't sure what's going to be inside.
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但是,當你打開盒子時,
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But when you open them, you have different rarities of the toys.
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你就擁有各種稀有的玩具。
然後我就想,這很好玩。
02:43
I thought that was interesting; I thought about this
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我開始把這個跟魚子醬販賣機和Art-o-mat聯想起來,
02:45
and the caviar vending machine and the Art-o-mat all together.
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很偶然,一天晚上我在畫一部自動販賣機,
02:48
And for some reason, I was one night drawing a vending machine,
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考慮要畫販賣機的畫,
02:51
thinking of doing paintings of a vending machine.
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又想到我的那些DNA,
我看到了某種美妙的融合,
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The vial of my DNA was sitting there,
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DNA的這些曲線和自動販賣機的卷線之間的融合。
02:56
and I saw a beautiful collaboration between the strands of DNA
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02:58
and the coils of a vending machine.
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之後呢,當然,我決定創造一部藝術裝置,
03:00
So I decided to create an art installation called the DNA Vending Machine.
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名叫DNA自動販賣機。
請看。
03:04
Here it is.
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(音樂)
03:05
(Music)
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[DNA Vending Machine is an art installation
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[「DNA自動販賣機是一部關於 增加接觸生物技術的藝術裝置。」]
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about our increasing access to biotechnology.]
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03:14
(Music)
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[For a reasonable cost, you can purchase a sample of human DNA
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[「以合理的價格,你就可以從傳統的自動販賣機
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from a traditional vending machine.]
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購買人類DNA樣本。」]
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(Music)
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[「每一個樣本都同時附有該NDA主人的
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[Each sample comes packaged
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with a collectible limited edition portrait of the human specimen.]
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一張有收藏價值的限量版人物像。」]
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(Music)
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[「DNA自動販賣機將DNA
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[DNA Vending Machine treats DNA as a collectible material
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視為有收藏價值的材料,
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and brings to light legal issues over the ownership of DNA.]
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引發有關NDA擁有權合法問題的討論。」]
04:00
(Music ends)
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卡伯耀•卡希亞-戈倫柏(Gabriel Garcia-Colombo): 目前,DNA自動販賣機
04:05
Gabriel Barcia-Colombo:
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The DNA Vending Machine is currently in a couple of galleries in New York,
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已經出現在紐約的幾個美術館,
而且還賣得不錯。
04:10
and it's selling out pretty well.
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我們現在做了第一版,有100個,
04:11
We're in the first edition of 100 pieces,
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希望很快就能做第二版。
04:13
hoping to do another edition pretty soon.
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我希望能把它帶進繁忙的地鐵站,
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I'd like to get it into more of a metro hub,
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諸如中央車站或賓州車站,
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like Grand Central or Penn Station,
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然後就擺在其他真正的自動販賣機旁邊。
04:19
next to some of the other vending machines in that location.
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但是進行這個計畫和其他藝術計畫的同時,
04:22
But really, with this and a lot of my art projects,
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我想問在場觀眾一個問題:
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I want to ask the audience a question:
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要是生物技術和DNA測序
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When biotechnology and DNA sequencing becomes as cheap as, say, laser cutting
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變得像雷射切割一樣便宜,
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or 3D printing or buying caviar from a vending machine,
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或者像3D列印或從販賣機買魚子醬一樣便宜,
04:34
will you submit your sample of DNA to be part of the vending machine?
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你們仍然會交出你的DNA樣本 給自動販賣機使用嗎?
這些樣本又值多少錢?
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How much will these samples be worth?
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你會願意買其他人的樣本嗎?
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Will you buy someone else's sample?
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04:41
And what will you be able to do with that sample?
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之後你們拿著樣本又能做什麼?
謝謝。
04:45
Thank you.
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04:46
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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