Topher White: What can save the rainforest? Your used cell phone

212,230 views ・ 2015-03-03

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翻译人员: Jingyao Xue 校对人员: Li Li
00:12
(Rainforest noises)
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(热带雨林的声音)
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In the summer of 2011, as a tourist,
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在2011年的夏天, 作为一名旅游者,
00:25
I visited the rainforests of Borneo for the very first time,
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我第一次参观了 婆罗洲的热带雨林,
00:29
and as you might imagine,
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正如你可能会想象,
00:31
it was the overwhelming sounds of the forest that struck me the most.
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森林无法抗拒的声音 给我下了最深刻的印象。
00:36
There's this constant cacophony of noise.
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就是这种持续不断的喧闹的声音。
00:39
Some things actually do stick out.
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但有些东西的确非常引人注意。
例如,这是一只很大的鸟, 名叫犀鸟。
00:42
For example, this here is a big bird, a rhinoceros hornbill.
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00:46
This buzzing is a cicada.
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这嗡嗡的声音是蝉声。
00:51
This is a family of gibbons.
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这是一个长臂猿家族,
00:54
It's actually singing to each other over a great distance.
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它们其实在对彼此唱歌, 隔着很远的距离。
00:59
The place where this was recorded was in fact a gibbon reserve,
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这个地方实际上是 一个长臂猿保护区,
01:02
which is why you can hear so many of them,
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这就是为什么你能 听到这么多的声音,
01:04
but in fact the most important noise that was coming out of the forest that time
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但实际上那个时候最重要的噪声 是来自森林外,
01:09
was one that I didn't notice,
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我当时却并没注意到,
01:10
and in fact nobody there had actually noticed it.
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事实上,那里也根本没有人 注意到这种声音。
01:14
So, as I said, this was a gibbon reserve.
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因此,正如我所说, 这是一个长臂猿保护区。
01:16
They spend most of their time rehabilitating gibbons,
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他们花了大部分的时间, 重建长臂猿保护区,
01:19
but they also have to spend a lot of their time
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但他们也花了很多时间
01:21
protecting their area from illegal logging that takes place on the side.
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保护他们的地区周边 不遭受非法砍伐。
01:25
And so if we take the sound of the forest
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如果我们弱化森林的声音,
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and we actually turn down the gibbons, the insects, and the rest,
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我们调低长臂猿, 昆虫和其它的声音,
01:31
in the background, the entire time, in recordings you heard,
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在这个背景下,整个时间段内, 你听到的这个录音
01:34
was the sound of a chainsaw at great distance.
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是电锯的声音, 从很远的地方传来。
01:38
They had three full-time guards who were posted around this sanctuary
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他们有三个全职警卫, 被派驻在整个保护区周围,
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whose job was in fact to guard against illegal logging,
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他们的工作实际上 是防范非法采伐,
01:46
and one day, we went walking, again as tourists, out into the forest,
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有一天,我们再次作为旅游者 走进这个森林,
01:50
and within five minutes' walk,
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在五分钟的步行路程里,
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we stumbled upon somebody who was just sawing a tree down,
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我们意外发现有人 正把树锯断,
01:55
five minutes' walk, a few hundred meters from the ranger station.
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五分钟步行路程, 离护林站几百米。
01:58
They hadn't been able to hear the chainsaws,
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他们一直没能听到电锯声,
因为你们能听到森林的声音 是非常嘈杂的。
02:01
because as you heard, the forest is very, very loud.
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02:04
It struck me as quite unacceptable that in this modern time,
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我觉得这是非常难以接受的, 在当今这个时代,
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just a few hundred meters away from a ranger station in a sanctuary,
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距离一个保护区的护林站仅数百米,
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that in fact nobody could hear it when someone who has a chainsaw gets fired up.
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竟然没有人能听到有人启动了电锯。
02:17
It sounds impossible, but in fact, it was quite true.
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这听起来不可能, 但实际上却是事实。
02:21
So how do we stop illegal logging?
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那么我们要如何制止非法采伐呢?
02:23
It's really tempting, as an engineer, always to come up with a high-tech,
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这真的很让人激动,作为一名 工程师,总是想到高科技,
02:26
super-crazy high-tech solution,
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超级疯狂的高科技解决方式。
02:28
but in fact, you're in the rainforest.
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但实际上,你在热带雨林里。
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It has to be simple, it has to be scalable,
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能够采用的方法必须是简单的, 能大范围应用的,
02:33
and so what we also noticed while were there was that
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我们也注意到,在这个地方
我们需要的每件东西 其实都唾手可得。
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everything we needed was already there.
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02:38
We could build a system that would allow us to stop this
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我们可以建立一个系统, 使我们能够阻止非法砍伐,
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using what's already there.
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仅仅利用天然的条件。
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Who was there? What was already in the forest?
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谁在那里? 森林里有哪些现成的条件?
02:45
Well, we had people.
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那里有人。
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We had this group there that was dedicated, three full-time guards,
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我们已经有三名敬业的专职警卫,
会竭力阻止非法砍伐,
02:50
that was dedicated to go and stop it,
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02:51
but they just needed to know what was happening out in the forest.
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但他们首先需要知道 在森林里发生了什么事。
02:54
The real surprise, this is the big one,
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有一件重要的事情非常出人意料,
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was that there was connectivity out in the forest.
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那就是森林与外界之间可以建立连接。
有移动电话服务, 在这种偏僻的地方很不寻常。
02:59
There was cell phone service way out in the middle of nowhere.
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我们谈论的地方距离 最近的公路也有数百公里,
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We're talking hundreds of kilometers from the nearest road,
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03:05
there's certainly no electricity, but they had very good cell phone service,
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肯定没有电, 但他们有很好的手机通讯服务,
03:08
these people in the towns were on Facebook all the time,
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小镇里的人们一直挂在Facebook上,
在手机上浏览网页,
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they're surfing the web on their phones,
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03:13
and this sort of got me thinking that in fact it would be possible
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这种情况不禁让我想到, 事实上是有可能
03:16
to use the sounds of the forest,
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利用森林的声音,
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pick up the sounds of chainsaws programmatically,
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按照程序指示提取电锯的声音,
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because people can't hear them,
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因为人们听不到这种声音,
03:22
and send an alert.
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再发出警报。
03:24
But you have to have a device to go up in the trees.
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但是,你必须有 一个装置能固定在树上。
03:26
So if we can use some device to listen to the sounds of the forest,
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所以,如果我们可以用 一些装置采集森林的声音,
03:30
connect to the cell phone network that's there,
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并连接到那里的手机网络,
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and send an alert to people on the ground,
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再发送警报给地面上的人,
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perhaps we could have a solution to this issue for them.
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也许我们就有了一个 对付非法砍伐的解决办法。
03:38
But let's take a moment to talk about saving the rainforest,
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不过让我们再花点时间 谈论一下拯救热带雨林,
03:41
because it's something that we've definitely all heard about forever.
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我们肯定早就已经有所了解。
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People in my generation have heard about saving the rainforest
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我们这一代人在小时候 就已经听说过关于拯救
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since we were kids,
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热带雨林的话题,
似乎这种信息从未改变:
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and it seems that the message has never changed:
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03:52
We've got to save the rainforest, it's super urgent,
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我们必须拯救热带雨林, 情况非常危急,
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this many football fields have been destroyed yesterday.
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在过去的时间内,相当于这么多 足球场的雨林面积已经遭到破坏,
03:57
and yet here we are today, about half of the rainforest remains,
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到今天为止,热带雨林的面积 大约只剩下一半,
04:00
and we have potentially more urgent problems like climate change.
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我们可能还有更迫切的问题, 例如气候变化。
04:05
But in fact, this is the little-known fact that I didn't realize at the time:
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但事实上,有一件鲜为人知的事实, 我当时并不知道:
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Deforestation accounts for more greenhouse gas
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砍伐森林导致了更多 温室气体的排放,
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than all of the world's planes, trains, cars, trucks and ships combined.
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超过世界上所有的飞机,火车, 汽车,卡车和船只的排放总和。
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It's the second highest contributor to climate change.
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这是导致气候变化第二大的诱因。
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Also, according to Interpol,
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还有,根据国际刑警组织提供的信息,
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as much as 90 percent of the logging that takes place in the rainforest
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高达90%的发生在热带雨林的伐木
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is illegal logging, like the illegal logging that we saw.
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都是非法伐木, 就像我们之前看到的那种情况。
04:29
So if we can help people in the forest enforce the rules that are there,
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因此,如果我们能帮助护林员 加强警戒和监督,
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then in fact we could eat heavily into this 17 percent
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实际上,我们可以 大量削减这17%的数字,
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and potentially have a major impact in the short term.
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并有可能在短时间内产生重大影响。
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It might just be the cheapest, fastest way to fight climate change.
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这可能是最廉价快速应对 气候变化的方法。
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And so here's the system that we imagine.
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这就是我们想象中的系统。
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It looks super high tech.
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它看起来超高科技。
此刻电锯的声音 在森林中被采集,
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The moment a sound of a chainsaw is heard in the forest,
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04:50
the device picks up the sound of the chainsaw,
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该装置接收了电锯声,
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it sends an alert through the standard GSM network that's already there
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并通过现成的标准GSM网络发送警报,
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to a ranger in the field
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通知现场的护林员,
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who can in fact show up in real time and stop the logging.
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让他们可以及时赶到制止非法伐木行为。
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It's no more about going out and finding a tree that's been cut.
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不再需要四处寻找已经被砍掉的树。
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It's not about seeing a tree from a satellite
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也不需要通过卫星观察
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in an area that's been clear cut,
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某个区域有一颗树被砍下了,
而是要实现实时干预。
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it's about real-time intervention.
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05:11
So I said it was the cheapest and fastest way to do it,
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所以我刚才说了,这是能实现这个目的 最廉价快捷的方式,
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but in fact, actually, as you saw, they weren't able to do it,
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但事实上,正如你们看到的, 它们还做不到这一点,
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so it may not be so cheap and fast.
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所以这种方法可能不会这么便宜和快速。
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But if the devices in the trees were actually cell phones,
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但是,如果在树上的这些装置 实际上是手机,
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it could be pretty cheap.
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它就可能相当便宜。
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Cell phones are thrown away by the hundreds of millions every year,
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每年有数以亿计的手机被扔掉,
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hundreds of millions in the U.S. alone,
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仅在美国就有上亿,
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not counting the rest of the world, which of course we should do,
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更不要说世界上的其它地方, 当然,这么做没什么问题,
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but in fact, cell phones are great.
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不过事实上,手机可是个好东西。
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They're full of sensors.
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它们内置了很多传感器。
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They can listen to the sounds of the forest.
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它们可以听到森林里的声音。
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We do have to protect them.
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我们还需要保护它们。
我们必须把它们放在 现在看到的这种盒子里,
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We have to put them in this box that you see here,
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还要给他们充电。
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and we do have to power them.
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Powering them is one of the greater engineering challenges
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充电是我们必须应对的较大的
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that we had to deal with,
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工程学挑战之一,
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because powering a cell phone under a tree canopy,
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因为在树冠下给手机充电,
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any sort of solar power under a tree canopy,
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任何一种树冠以下的太阳能发电
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was an as-yet-unsolved problem,
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都是一个尚未解决的难题。
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and that's this unique solar panel design that you see here,
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这种独特的太阳能电池板设计, 你们现在看到的,
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which in fact is built also from recycled byproducts of an industrial process.
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实际上也是通过回收一个工业过程中 的副产品建立起来的。
这些是被切割成条之后的样子。
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These are strips that are cut down.
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So this is me putting it all together
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我就像这样把它们拼装在一起,
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in my parents' garage, actually.
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其实是在父母的车库里。
非常感谢他们的支持和理解。
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Thanks very much to them for allowing me to do that.
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06:13
As you can see, this is a device up in a tree.
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你们现在看到的是固定在 一棵树上的装置。
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What you can see from here, perhaps, is that they are pretty well obscured
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从这个角度可能看得到, 其实它们被遮挡得很好,
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up in the tree canopy at a distance.
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就在距离很远的树冠上。
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That's important, because although they are able to hear chainsaw noises
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(挂在树冠上)这点很重要,因为虽然 它们能接收电锯的声音,
最远可以达到1公里,
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up to a kilometer in the distance,
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allowing them to cover about three square kilometers,
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这样它们就可以覆盖 约3平方公里的区域,
但如果有人把它们取走, 就会导致该区域不在保护范围之内。
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if someone were to take them, it would make the area unprotected.
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06:35
So does it actually work?
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那么它真的能起作用吗?
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Well, to test it, we took it back to Indonesia,
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为了进行测试, 我们把它带回了印尼,
不在同一个的地方, 而在另外一处,
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not the same place, but another place,
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to another gibbon reserve
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另一个长臂猿保护区,
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that was threatened daily by illegal logging.
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每天都会受到非法采伐的威胁。
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On the very second day, it picked up illegal chainsaw noises.
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第二天,它就接收到 了非法电锯伐木的声音。
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We were able to get a real-time alert.
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我们能够收到实时警报,
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I got an email on my phone.
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我在手机上收到 一个电子邮件。
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Actually, we had just climbed the tree. Everyone had just gotten back down.
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事实上,我们刚爬上了树, 每个人又返回下来。
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All these guys are smoking cigarettes,
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所有这些人都在吸烟,
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and then I get an email, and they all quiet down,
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然后我收到一封邮件, 他们都安静下来,
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and in fact you can hear the chainsaw
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事实上,你可以听到背景音中
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really, really faint in the background,
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真的有微弱的电锯声,
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but no one had noticed it until that moment.
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但没有人注意到它, 直到接到警报的那一刻。
于是我们立刻起身去 直接阻止这些伐木工,
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And so then we took off to actually stop these loggers.
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07:14
I was pretty nervous.
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我当时很紧张。
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This is the moment where we've actually arrived close to where the loggers are.
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这会儿我们其实已经 抵达了伐木工所在地的附近。
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This is the moment where you can see where I'm actually regretting
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此时此刻你们可以看出来, 在那里我已经开始后悔
之前的所有努力,
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perhaps the entire endeavor.
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I'm not really sure what's on the other side of this hill.
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我真的不知道这座山的 另一边是什么状况。
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That guy's much braver than I am.
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那家伙比我勇敢得多。
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But he went, so I had to go, walking up,
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但他去了,我不得不跟着, 往山上爬,
07:34
and in fact, he made it over the hill,
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事实上,他翻过去了,
07:36
and interrupted the loggers in the act.
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直接制止了伐木工的行动。
07:39
For them, it was such a surprise --
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这完全出乎了他们的意料——
07:41
they had never, ever been interrupted before --
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之前他们从来不曾被中途制止过——
07:43
that it was such an impressive event for them,
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这让他们印象十分深刻,
07:45
that we've heard from our partners they have not been back since.
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我们已经从合作伙伴里听说, 他们没有再回来过。
07:48
They were, in fact, great guys.
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事实上,他们(伐木工)人都不错。
他们给我们展示了 整个操作过程,
07:50
They showed us how the entire operation works,
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07:52
and what they really convinced us on the spot was that
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他们在现场就让我们真正确信了,
07:55
if you can show up in real time and stop people,
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如果你能当场现身阻止人们伐木,
07:57
it's enough of a deterrent they won't come back.
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这就是一个足够的威慑, 他们不会再回来。
08:01
So --
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所以 ——
谢谢。(掌声)
08:03
Thank you. (Applause)
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08:09
Word of this spread, possibly because we told a lot of people,
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这件事传播开了,可能 因为我们告诉了很多人,
08:13
and in fact, then some really amazing stuff started to happen.
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事实上,有些令人 惊讶的事开始发生了。
08:16
People from around the world started to send us emails, phone calls.
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来自世界各地的人们开始 给我们发邮件和打电话。
08:20
What we saw was that people throughout Asia,
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我们看到的是, 整个亚洲,
08:22
people throughout Africa, people throughout South America,
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整个非洲, 整个南美洲的人们,
08:25
they told us that they could use it too,
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他们告诉我们他们也 可以使用这种装置,
08:27
and what's most important,
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最重要的是,
08:28
what we'd found that we thought might be exceptional,
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我们发现, 当初我们认为可能极不寻常的是,
08:31
in the forest there was pretty good cell phone service.
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在森林里有相当不错的手机服务。
08:33
That was not exceptional, we were told,
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不过我们被告知这一点也不稀奇,
08:35
and that particularly is on the periphery of the forests that are most under threat.
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特别是在森林的周边地区, 那里受到的威胁最大。
08:39
And then something really amazing happened,
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有些神奇的事情真的发生了,
08:41
which was that people started sending us their own old cell phones.
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人们开始寄来自己的旧手机。
08:45
So in fact what we have now is a system
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所以,事实上我们现在有一个系统,
08:47
where we can use people on the ground, people who are already there,
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我们可以利用地面上的人, 已经在那里的人,
08:50
who can both improve and use the existing connectivity,
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他们能够同时改进和 使用现有的连接,
08:53
and we're using old cell phones that are being sent to us
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我们也同时在使用来自世界各地的人们
08:56
by people from around the world
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贡献的旧手机,
08:57
that want their phones to be doing something else in their afterlife,
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他们希望自己的手机能够发挥余热,
可以这么说。
09:01
so to speak.
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09:01
And if the rest of the device can be completely recycled,
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如果其余部分的装置 可以完全回收利用,
我们相信,这就是一个 完全升级了的回收装置。
09:04
then we believe it's an entirely upcycled device.
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09:07
So again, this didn't come because of any sort of high-tech solution.
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那么,这并不是什么高科技的解决方案,
09:11
It just came from using what's already there,
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它只是利用现有的材料,
09:13
and I'm thoroughly convinced that if it's not phones,
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而且我完全相信, 即便不用手机,
09:16
that there's always going to be enough there
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也总会有足够的材料
09:18
that you can build similar solutions
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让你可以建立类似的解决方案,
09:20
that can be very effective in new contexts.
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在新的环境中同样会十分有效。
09:22
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢。
09:24
(Applause)
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