A small country with big ideas to get rid of fossil fuels | Monica Araya

182,049 views ・ 2016-09-06

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翻译人员: Lydia Yu 校对人员: 易帆 余
00:13
How do we build a society
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如果不用石油,
我们如何让一个社会运转起来?
00:16
without fossil fuels?
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00:18
This is a very complex challenge,
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这是个十分严峻的挑战,
00:21
and I believe developing countries could take the lead in this transition.
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我相信发展中国家 可以为这个改变起带头作用。
00:27
And I'm aware that this is a contentious statement,
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我很清楚这是一个 很有争议性的说法,
00:30
but the reality is that so much is at stake in our countries
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但事实是,如果我们 国家的发展始终围绕着石油,
00:35
if we let fossil fuels stay at the center of our development.
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国家就会承担巨大的风险。
00:41
We can do it differently.
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我们能换一种发展方案。
00:44
And it's time, it really is time,
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而且是时候,真的是时候了,
00:47
to debunk the myth
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去揭穿这个
00:50
that a country has to choose between development on the one hand
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所谓一个国家必须在一边是经济发展,
00:55
and environmental protection, renewables, quality of life, on the other.
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另一边是环境保护,可再生资源 以及生活质量中二选一的谬误。
01:01
I come from Costa Rica, a developing country.
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我来自哥斯达黎加,一个发展中国家。
01:04
We are nearly five million people,
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我们有将近五百万的人口,
01:08
and we live right in the middle of the Americas,
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身处在美洲的中心,
01:10
so it's very easy to remember where we live.
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所以记住哥斯达黎加的位置, 十分的简单。
01:15
Nearly 100 percent of our electricity
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我们所用的电力资源几乎
百分之百来自于可再生资源,
01:22
comes from renewable sources,
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01:24
five of them.
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一共有五种。
01:26
(Applause)
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(掌声)
01:30
Hydropower, geothermal,
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水力,地热,
01:34
wind, solar, biomass.
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风力,太阳能以及生物质。
01:39
Did you know that last year,
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你们知道去年,
01:41
for 299 days,
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总共有299天,
01:44
we did not use any fossil fuels
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我们生产的所有电力
01:47
in order to generate all our electricity?
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压根没有使用任何化石燃料吗?
01:52
It's a fantastic achievement,
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这是一个了不起的成就,
01:56
and yet, it hides a paradox,
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但同时,这也隐藏了一种矛盾,
02:03
which is that nearly 70 percent
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那就是我们百分之七十的
02:06
of all our energy consumption is oil.
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能源消费都是石油。
02:11
Why?
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为什么?
02:13
Because of our transportation system,
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因为我们的交通系统,
02:16
which is totally dependent on fossil fuels,
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就像很多其他国家一样,
02:19
like it is in most countries.
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完全依赖于化石燃料,
02:22
So if we think of the energy transition as a marathon,
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所以如果我们把能源过渡 看成是一段马拉松,
02:26
the question is, how do we get to the finish line,
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那么问题来了,我们如何 才能到达终点线?
02:29
how do we decarbonize the rest of the economy?
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我们如何才能让我们国家 其余的经济体系脱碳?
02:33
And it's fair to say that if we don't succeed,
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负责任地说,如果我们无法成功,
02:36
it's difficult to see who will.
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那别人也很难做到。
02:38
So that is why I want to talk to you about Costa Rica,
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所以这就是为什么我想 跟你们谈谈哥斯达黎加,
02:42
because I believe we are a great candidate
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因为我相信,我们在 不使用化石燃料的发展蓝图中
02:44
in pioneering a vision for development without fossil fuels.
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是一个不错的候选人。
02:51
If you know one thing about our country,
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如果你们对我们的国家有一点点了解的话,
02:54
it's that we don't have an army.
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就一定知道,我们没有军队。
02:57
So I'm going to take you back to 1948.
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所以接下来,我想带领你们 回到1948那年。
03:01
That year, the country was coming out of civil war.
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那年,哥斯达黎加刚从 一场内战中解脱。
03:06
Thousands of Costa Ricans had died,
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成千上万的哥斯达黎加人死于战乱,
03:09
and families were bitterly split.
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一个个家庭支离破碎,人们流离失所。
03:13
And yet, a surprising idea won the hearts and minds:
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然而,一个令人惊讶的想法 得到了大家的支持:
03:18
we would reboot the country,
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我们要让国家重新繁荣起来,
03:20
and that Second Republic would have no army.
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而且第二共和国将不会有军队。
03:23
So we abolished it.
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所以我们废除了军队。
03:25
And the president at the time,
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当时的总统,
03:28
José Figueres,
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何塞·菲格雷斯,
03:30
found a powerful way by smashing the walls of an army base.
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还通过敲碎军队基地的墙壁, 来表达坚毅与决心。
03:37
The following year, 1949,
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接下来的一年,1949年,
03:40
we made that decision permanent in the new constitution,
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我们把这个决定写进了我们的宪法里, 将它永久地保留下来,
03:44
and that is why I can tell you that story nearly 70 years later.
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这也是为什么我能在将近70年后, 跟你们讲这段故事。
03:49
And I'm grateful.
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我很感激,
03:51
I'm grateful they made that decision before I was born,
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我很感激他们在我出生之前 做了这个决定,
03:55
because it allowed me and millions of others
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因为这个决定让我和 百万名哥斯达黎加的百姓
03:57
to live in a very stable country.
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生活在一个非常安定的国家里。
04:01
And you might be thinking that it was good luck,
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你有可能觉得这只是好运气,
04:04
but it wasn't.
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但这并不是。
04:05
There was a pattern of deliberate choices.
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这一切都是因为一系列 经过深思熟虑的决定。
04:10
In the '40s, Costa Ricans were given free education and free health care.
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在上世纪40年代,哥斯达黎加人 可以免费上学,享受免费医疗。
04:16
We called that social guarantees.
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我们把这些叫做社会保障。
04:18
By abolishing the army,
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废除了军队,
04:20
we were able to turn military spending into social spending,
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让我们能够把庞大的军事消费 用在社会保障上,
04:25
and that was a driver of stability.
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而这就是我们国家稳定的基石。
04:28
In the '50s --
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在50年代时——
04:29
(Applause)
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(掌声)
04:34
In the '50s, we started investing in hydropower,
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在五十年代时,我们开始投资水电工程,
这也使我们避免陷入
04:38
and that kept us away from the trap
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04:40
of using fossil fuels for electricity generation,
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使用石油来发电的困局,
04:43
which is what the world is struggling with today.
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而现在全世界 都在这个泥潭中挣扎。
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In the '70s we invested in national parks,
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在70年代的时候, 我们投资建立了国家公园,
04:50
and that kept us away
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而这也使我们避开了
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from the deeply flawed logic of growth, growth, growth at any cost
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“不惜一切代价发展”这种 大错特错的逻辑,
04:58
that you see others embracing, especially in the developing world.
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但这个畸形的理念却被 很多其它发展中国家所尊崇。
05:02
In the '90s, we pioneered payments for ecosystem services,
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在90年代时,我们率先提出了 为生态系统保护工作者支付报酬的政策,
05:06
and that helped us reverse deforestation
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而这帮助我们逆转了森林砍伐的后果,
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and boosted ecotourism, which today is a key engine of growth.
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同时促进了生态旅游, 而这也是我们今天经济发展的主要引擎。
05:13
So investing in environmental protection
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所以在环境保护方面的投资,
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did not hurt our economy.
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并没有妨碍我们的经济发展。
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Quite the opposite.
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反而起到了促进作用。
05:19
And it doesn't mean we are perfect,
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但这不代表我们是完美的,
05:21
and it doesn't mean we don't have contradictions.
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也不代表我们没有其他顾虑。
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That's not the point.
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这不是重点。
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The point is that, by making our own choices,
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重点是,因为做出了我们自己的决定,
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we were able to develop resilience in dealing with development problems.
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我们得以坚韧又不失灵活地 处理发展过程中的各种问题。
05:36
Also, if you take a country like ours,
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而且,用哥斯达黎加举例,
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the GDP per capita is around 11,000 dollars,
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哥斯达黎加人均GDP 差不多是11000美元,
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depending on how you measure it.
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当然这在于你是怎么计算的。
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But according to the Social Progress Index,
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但根据社会进步指数的数据,
05:48
we are an absolute outlier
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将GDP转化为社会进步这一点上,
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when it comes to turning GDP into social progress.
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我们绝对是超群的。
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Abolishing the army,
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废除军队,
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investing in nature and people,
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在保护自然环境和百姓康乐上投资,
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did something very powerful, too.
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这几点,都对哥斯达黎加的发展 做出了不可磨灭的贡献。
06:01
It shaped the narrative,
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这一切造就了我们的故事,
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the narrative of a small country with big ideas,
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那就是,一个小国家也能有大想法,
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and it was very empowering to grow up with that narrative.
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而这个小国家也在跟随 这段故事的脚步慢慢成长。
06:11
So the question is,
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那么问题来了,
06:13
what is the next big idea for this generation?
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我们这一代的 下一个大想法又是什么呢?
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And I believe what comes next
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我相信我们这一代,
06:20
is for this generation to let go of fossil fuels for good,
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将会为了更好的环境放弃使用化石燃料,
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just as we did with the army.
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就像我们当初废除了军队一样。
06:30
Fossil fuels create climate change.
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化石燃料造成了全球气候变化。
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We know that,
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我们都知道这一点,
06:34
and we know how vulnerable we are to the impacts of climate change.
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也明白我们在面对气候变化 所带来的影响时多么不堪一击。
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So as a developing country, it is in our best interest
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所以身在一个发展中国家, 在建设过程中
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to build development without fossil fuels
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摒弃化石燃料才是我们最好的选择,
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that harm people in the first place.
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因为这本身就是在伤害我们自己。
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Because
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因为
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why would we continue importing oil
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当我们可以用电力来代替石油的时候,
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for transportation
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我们为什么要继续
06:57
if we can use electricity instead?
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为了交通运输而进口石油?
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Remember,
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请记住,
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this is the country
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这是一个
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where electricity comes from water in our rivers,
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从江河的水流,
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heat from volcanoes,
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火山的炙热,
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wind turbines, solar panels,
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风力发电机,和太阳能板
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biowaste.
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和生物废料中获取电能的国家。
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Abolishing fossil fuels means disrupting our transportation system
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放弃化石燃料,意味着 交通系统也必须跟着变革,
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so that we can power our cars, buses and trains with electricity
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所以我们就可以用电能来发动 私家车,公共汽车,和火车,
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instead of dirty energy.
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而不再是用会污染环境的石油。
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And transportation, let me tell you,
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而且让我告诉你们,
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has become an existential issue for us Costa Ricans,
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交通已经成为哥斯达黎加人 生活中的一个麻烦了,
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because the model we have is not working for us.
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因为现在我们的交通模式 并不适合我们。
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It's hurting people,
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这影响了百姓的利益,
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it's hurting companies,
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也伤害了公司的利益,
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and it's hurting our health.
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同时也在影响我们的身体健康。
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Because when policies and infrastructure fail,
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因为当政府政策和基础设施的建设 都无法发挥作用的时候,
这就是每天都要发生的情况。
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this is what happens on a daily basis.
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07:56
Two hours in the morning,
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早上塞两个小时,
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two hours in the evening.
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晚上再塞两个小时。
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I don't understand why we have to accept this as normal.
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我不明白这一切的不便利 为什么会变成我们必须接受的常态,
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It's offensive
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每天必须浪费这么多时间在路上,
08:07
to have to waste our time like this every single day.
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是很令人不快的。
08:11
And this highway is actually quite good
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而这条高速公路,
08:13
compared to what you see in other countries
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相比起你们在别的国家 所看到的塞车高峰,
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where traffic is exploding.
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已经是相当不错的了。
08:18
You know, Costa Ricans call this "presa."
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哥斯达黎加人 把这个叫做 ”Presa“ (西班牙语)。
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Presa means "imprisoned."
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“ Presa” 是被囚禁的意思。
08:24
And people are turning violent
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而本该是在一个国家里 过着纯净生活的人们
08:27
in a country that is otherwise happy in pura vida.
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开始变得浮躁,暴力。
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It's happening.
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这已经开始发生了。
08:33
So a lot is at stake.
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所以很多美好的事都将受到威胁。
08:36
The good news
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好消息是
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is that when we talk about clean transportation
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当我们说到纯净无污染的交通系统
08:41
and different mobility,
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和与众不同的运输方式,
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we're not talking about some distant utopia out there.
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我们不是在天方夜谭地 讨论不可能的纯净乐土。
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We're talking about electric mobility that is happening today.
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我们是在讲已经在发生的 电力交通运输。
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By 2022, electric cars and conventional cars
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到2022年,电动汽车和传统汽车
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are expected to cost the same,
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预测会有不相上下的价格,
09:01
and cities are already trying electric buses.
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而且有的城市已经开始 尝试使用电动公共汽车了。
09:05
And these really cool creatures
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而这些酷炫的家伙
09:08
are saving money,
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会替我们省钱,
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and they reduce pollution.
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节能减污。
09:13
So if we want to get rid of oil-based transportation, we can,
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所以如果我们想放弃以石油为主的 交通系统,我们完全可以,
09:17
because we have options now that we didn't have before.
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因为现在我们拥有以前所没有的选择。
09:20
It's really exciting.
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这真的是非常激动人心。
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But of course,
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不过当然,
09:25
some get very uncomfortable with this idea,
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有些人会对这个想法感到不快,
09:29
and they will come and they will tell you
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然后他们会来跟你说
09:32
that the world is stuck with oil, and so is Costa Rica, so get real.
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整个世界只能被石油左右, 哥斯达黎加也在所难免,所以现实一点吧。
09:37
That's what they tell you.
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这是他们的说法。
09:39
And you know what the answer to that argument is?
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那你们知道该怎么回应这番辩词吗?
09:41
That in 1948, we didn't say the world is stuck with armies,
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在1948年的时候,我们并没有说 因为世界都被军队掌控,
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so let's keep our army, too.
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那我们也留着我们的军队吧。
不,我们做了一个勇敢的决定,
09:47
No, we made a very brave choice,
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09:50
and that choice made the whole difference.
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而且这个决定为哥斯达黎加人民 带来了翻天覆地的改变。
09:53
So it's time for this generation to be brave again
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所以是时候该让我们这一代人 再次勇敢起来
彻底摒弃化石燃料。
09:58
and abolish fossil fuels for good.
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09:59
And I'll give you three reasons why we have to do this.
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而且我也有三个理由来解释 我们为什么一定要这样做。
10:03
First,
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第一,
10:05
our model of transportation and urbanization is broken,
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我们的交通和城市化模式 已经千疮百孔,
10:08
so this is the best moment to redefine our urban and mobility future.
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所以这是重新定义城市 和运输系统的未来的最佳时机。
10:14
We don't want cities that are built for cars.
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我们不想要为汽车而建的城市。
10:17
We want cities for people
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我们想要的是 为人民百姓而建的城市,
10:19
where we can walk and we can use bikes.
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在那里我们可以走路,可以骑自行车。
10:23
And we want public transportation,
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并且我们需要的是公共交通,
10:25
lots of it,
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庞大的,
10:27
public transportation that is clean and dignifying.
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纯净无污染的,更高尚的公共交通系统。
10:31
Because if we continue adding fleets of conventional cars,
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因为如果我们继续购买更多的传统汽车,
10:36
our cities will become unbearable.
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我们的城市将不堪重负。
10:40
Second, we have to change,
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第二,我们必须改变,
10:41
but incremental change is not going to be sufficient.
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但是逐步的变化是不够的。
10:46
We need transformational change.
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我们需要的是转型和变革。
10:49
And there are some incremental projects in my country,
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我们的国家也在实施一些 逐步改善计划,
10:52
and I am the first one to celebrate them.
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而我也是第一个 为这些计划叫好的人。
10:55
But let's not kid ourselves.
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但是不要自欺欺人。
10:58
We're not talking about ending up with really beautiful electric cars here
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我们谈的不是这里以后 会有漂亮的电动汽车,
11:02
and a few electric buses there
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那里又会有几辆电动公共汽车,
11:04
while we keep investing in the same kind of infrastructure,
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如果我们持续投资 跟以前一样的城市基础设施,
11:08
more cars, more roads, more oil.
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这只会造成一样的车多,路多,油多。
11:10
We're talking about breaking free from oil,
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我们谈的是彻底从石油中解脱,
而我们也不能通过 渐进主义做到这一点。
11:15
and you cannot get there through incrementalism.
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11:20
Third, and you know this one,
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第三,你们都有所耳闻,
11:25
the world is hungry for inspiration.
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今天的世界如饥似渴地 寻找灵感来源。
11:30
It craves stories of success
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成功处理复杂事件的背后,
隐藏着刻苦铭心的故事,
11:33
in dealing with complex issues,
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11:35
especially in developing countries.
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特别是在发展中国家。
11:39
So I believe Costa Rica can be an inspiration to others,
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所以我觉得哥斯达黎加 可以成为别国的典范,
11:43
as we did last year when we disclosed
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就像我们去年向世界透露
11:46
that for so many days we were not using any fossil fuels
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我们已经有很长一段时间
11:50
in order to generate all our electricity.
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都没有用化石燃料来发电了一样。
11:55
The news went viral around the world.
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这则消息像病毒一样 疯狂传遍了全世界。
11:59
Also, and this makes me extremely proud,
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而且,这也让我感到非常的自豪,
12:02
a Costa Rican woman, Christiana Figueres,
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一个哥斯达黎加的女性, 克里斯汀安娜·菲格雷斯,
12:07
played a decisive role in the negotiations of the Paris climate agreement.
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在巴黎气候协议中的谈判 起到了关键性的作用。
12:14
So we have to protect that legacy and be an example.
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所以我们必须捍卫这个成就, 并且以身作则。
12:19
So what comes next?
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那么接下来呢?
12:22
The people.
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我们的百姓。
12:24
How do we get people to own this?
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我们如何才能让人们 去接受这个想法?
12:27
How do we get people
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我们如何才能
12:29
to believe that it's possible
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让人们相信
12:32
to build a society without fossil fuels?
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建造一个没有石油的社会 是有可能的?
12:36
A lot of work from the ground up is needed.
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从最基本的工作开始是必经过程。
12:41
That is why, in 2014, we created Costa Rica Limpia.
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这就是为什么,在2014年的时候, 我们创建了Costa Rica Limpia (“纯净哥斯达黎加”)。
12:45
"Limpia" means "clean,"
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"Limpia" (西班牙语)的意思是 ”干净“,
12:48
because we want to empower and we want to inspire citizens.
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因为我们想启发,鼓励我们的公民。
12:52
If citizens don't get engaged,
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如果公民们不参与,
12:57
clean transportation decisions will be bogged down by endless,
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开发无污染的交通系统的决定
13:01
and I mean endless, technical discussions,
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将会被无限的技术研讨会所淹没
13:04
and by avalanches of lobbying by various established interests.
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和代表不同利益的组织 所游说阻挠。
13:12
Wanting to be a green country powered by renewables
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成为一个全由可再生资源 供电的绿色国家的这个想法,
13:16
is already part of our story.
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早已是我们国家故事中的一个篇章。
13:19
We should not let anybody take that away from us.
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我们不能让任何人 夺走属于我们的故事。
13:24
Last year, we brought people from our seven provinces
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去年,我们聚集了从7个省来的群众
13:28
to talk about climate change in terms that matter to them,
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讨论了气候变化对于他们的影响。
13:32
and we also brought this year
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而今年我们又聚集了
13:35
another group of Costa Ricans
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另一群哥斯达黎加人
13:37
to talk about renewable energy.
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讨论了可再生资源。
13:39
And you know what?
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你们猜怎么着?
13:41
These people disagree on almost everything
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这些群众平常几乎是没有众口一致过的,
13:43
except on renewable energy
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但他们在关于可再生资源,
无污染交通系统,和干净空气的 问题上达成了一致。
13:46
and clean transportation and clean air.
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13:48
It brings people together.
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这也让哥斯达黎加人团结了。
13:50
And the key to real participation
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真正能引导群众积极参与的关键
13:53
is to help people not to feel small.
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是去让人们意识到自己的 一举一动不再渺小。
13:55
People feel powerless,
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群众很多时候都会觉得自己有心无力,
13:56
and they are tired of not being heard.
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他们再也不希望自己的呼声被无视了。
14:01
So what we do is concrete things,
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所以我们要做的是基础观念的建立,
14:03
and we translate technical issues into citizen language
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把专业问题转述成 百姓听得懂的语言,
14:07
to show that citizens have a role to play and can play it together.
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这样才能让他们觉得 有责任团结一致,贡献自己的力量。
14:12
For the first time, we're tracking the promises that were made
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我们首次紧密地监督,
对无污染交通系统的承诺,
14:15
on clean transportation,
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14:17
and politicos know that they have to deliver it,
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政客也知道他们需要去传达这个理念,
14:19
but the tipping point will come when we form coalitions --
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但是当我们形成了坚固的联盟——
14:23
citizens, companies,
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民众,公司,
14:25
champions of public transportation --
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公共交通系统的拥护者——
我们就会势不可挡地 将电力交通转换为新的常态,
14:28
that will make electric mobility the new normal,
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14:30
especially in a developing country.
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特别是在发展中国家。
14:34
By the time the next election comes,
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在下一届选举到来的时候,
14:38
I believe every candidate will have to disclose where they stand
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我相信每一位候选人都必须在 摒弃化石燃料使用的
14:41
on the abolition of fossil fuels.
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这一问题上表态。
14:43
Because this question has to enter our mainstream politics.
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因为这一问题势必会成为政治主流。
14:48
And I'm telling you, this is not a question of climate policy
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我还要告诉你们, 这并不是一个气候政策的问题,
也不是一个保护环境的议程。
14:52
or environmental agenda.
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14:54
It's about the country that we want
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这一切都是为了 我们想要的一个理想国度,
14:58
and the cities that we have
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我们拥有的城市,
15:00
and the cities that we want
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我们想要的城市,
15:01
and who makes that choice.
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以及由谁来做这些决定。
15:04
Because at the end of the day, what we have to show
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因为到最后,我们要展现的是
15:07
is that development with renewable energy
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可再生资源的发展
15:10
is good for the people,
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对人们是有益处的,
15:13
for Costa Ricans that are alive today
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对今天活着的哥斯达黎加人,
15:15
and especially for those who haven't been born.
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对还未出生的哥斯达黎加人都有益处。
15:21
This is our National Museum today.
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这是我们的国家博物馆。
15:24
It's bright and peaceful,
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明亮而平和,
15:26
and when you stand up in front of it,
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而当你站在它面前时,
15:29
it's really hard to believe these were military barracks
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很难相信这里曾经是
15:32
at the end of the '40s.
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40年代末的军营。
15:34
We started a new life without an army in this place,
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我们在这个没有军队的地方 展开了一段新的生活篇章,
15:38
and here is where our abolition
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而这里终有一天也会是
我们向全世界宣布 摒弃化石燃料的地方。
15:42
of fossil fuels will be announced one day.
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15:45
And we will make history again.
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我们将又一次创造历史。
15:47
Thank you.
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谢谢。
15:48
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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