Stefano Mancuso: The roots of plant intelligence

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翻译人员: Fengqiao Liu 校对人员: xiang fei
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Sometimes I go browsing
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以前,在浏览
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[through] a very old magazine.
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一本很旧的杂志时,
00:20
I found this observation test
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我发现了这个
00:23
about the story of the ark.
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有关“诺亚方舟故事”的观察测验。
00:26
And the artist that drew this observation test
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绘制这幅图片的作者
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did some errors, had some mistakes --
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设置了一些错误,
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there are more or less 12 mistakes.
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大概共有12个,
00:33
Some of them are very easy.
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其中有一些很容易发现。
00:35
There is a funnel, an aerial part,
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在方舟上,有一个烟囱,一段天线,
00:38
a lamp and clockwork key on the ark.
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一盏灯和一把时钟装置钥匙。
00:40
Some of them are about the animals, the number.
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其中的一些是有关动物数量的。
00:43
But there is a much more fundamental mistake
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但是,这里有一个
00:46
in the overall story of the ark
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关于诺也方舟故事更根本性、
00:49
that's not reported here.
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却没有提出来的问题:
00:51
And this problem is: where are the plants?
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植物在哪里?
00:54
So now we have God
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现在,上帝
00:56
that is going to submerge Earth permanently
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准备永远地淹没地球,
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or at least for a very long period,
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或者至少要淹没很长一段时间,
01:02
and no one is taking care of plants.
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而却没有人照管植物。
01:05
Noah needed to take two of every kind of bird,
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对每种鸟类、
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of every kind of animal,
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每种动物、
01:09
of every kind of creature that moves,
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每种会动的生物,诺亚都要挽救两只,
01:11
but no mention about plants.
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却直口不提植物。
01:14
Why?
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为什么?
01:16
In another part of the same story,
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这个故事的另一部分,
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all the living creatures
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所有活着的生物
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are just the living creatures
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都只是
01:22
that came out from the ark,
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从方舟上下来的,
01:24
so birds, livestock and wild animals.
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因此有鸟类、牲畜和野生动物。
01:27
Plants are not living creatures --
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没有植物。
01:29
this is the point.
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这就是问题所在。
01:31
That is a point that is not
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这一点从没有
01:33
coming out from the Bible,
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在圣经中提及,
01:35
but it's something that
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然而,植物
01:37
really accompanied humanity.
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却自始至终伴随着人类的发展。
01:40
Let's have a look at this nice code
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这个漂亮的密码
01:43
that is coming from a Renaissance book.
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来自于文艺复兴时期时的一本书,
01:46
Here we have the description
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是关于
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of the order of nature.
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自然等级的描述。
01:50
It's a nice description because it's starting from left --
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这个描述很贴切,因为它从左侧开始——
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you have the stones --
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左侧是石头——
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immediately after the stones, the plants
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紧随其后的是
01:57
that are just able to live.
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仅仅具有生命的植物。
02:00
We have the animals that are able to live and to sense,
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之后,是既有生命又能感知的动物;
02:03
and on the top of the pyramid,
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在金字塔的顶端,
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there is the man.
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是人。
02:07
This is not the common man.
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这不是普通人,
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The "Homo studiosus" -- the studying man.
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而是“智人”——读书人。
02:12
This is quite comforting
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这令
02:15
for people like me -- I'm a professor --
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像我这样的人——我是一名教授——颇感欣慰,
02:18
this to be over there on the top of creation.
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我们位于世界万物的顶端。
02:21
But it's something completely wrong.
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但是,这完全错了。
02:24
You know very well about professors.
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你确实对教授非常了解。
02:27
But it's also wrong about plants,
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但对植物来说,你仍然错了。
02:30
because plants are not just able to live;
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它们不仅具有生命,
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they are able to sense.
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它们也能够感知。
02:34
They are much more sophisticated
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在感知方面,
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in sensing than animals.
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它们比动物更加高级。
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Just to give you an example,
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举个例子,
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every single root apex
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任何一个根端
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is able to detect and to monitor
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都能够
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concurrently and continuously
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同时且持续地
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at least 15 different chemical
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感知并检测至少15种不同的化学
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and physical parameters.
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和物理参数。
02:52
And they also are able to show and to exhibit
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此外,它们也能表现出
02:55
such a wonderful and complex behavior
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令人赞叹且复杂的行为;
02:58
that can be described just with the term of intelligence.
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如此行为非“智能”不能描述。
03:01
Well, but this is something --
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不过,这一点——
03:04
this underestimation of plants is something
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对植物的低估——
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that is always with us.
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一直都伴随着我们。
03:09
Let's have a look at this short movie now.
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现在,我们来看个短片。
03:12
We have David Attenborough.
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此人是大卫·阿滕伯勒,
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Now David Attenborough is really a plant lover;
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一位真正的植物爱好者。
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he did some of the most beautiful movies
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他制作了一些
03:19
about plant behavior.
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有关植物行为的最美的影片。
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Now, when he speaks about plants,
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现在,当他谈论到植物时,
03:23
everything is correct.
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所有一切都没有问题。
03:25
When he speaks about animals,
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当他谈到动物时,
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[he] tends to remove the fact
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却往往倾向于
03:29
that plants exist.
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认为植物不复存在了。
03:31
The blue whale,
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蓝鲸
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the biggest creature that exists on the planet --
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是地球上最大的生物。
03:35
that is wrong, completely wrong.
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那是错误的,是完全错误的。
03:38
The blue whale, it's a dwarf
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在巨大的加州红杉面前,
03:41
if compared with the real biggest creature
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蓝鲸立刻变成了侏儒。
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that exists on the planet --
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加州红杉
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that is, this wonderful,
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才真正是
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magnificent Sequoiadendron giganteum.
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地球上最大的生物。
03:51
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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And this is a living organism
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一棵活的加州红杉
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that has a mass of at least 2,000 tons.
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至少重达2,000吨。
03:59
Now, the story
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事实上,
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that plants are some low-level organisms
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在很久很久以前,
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has been formalized
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植物是低等生物的观点
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many times ago by Aristotle,
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就已经出现在亚里士多德的
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that in "De Anima" --
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《论灵魂》中了。
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that is a very influential book for the Western civilization --
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《论灵魂》一书对西方文明有着深远的影响。
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wrote that the plants are on the edge
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在书中,亚里士多德认为植物
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between living and not living.
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介于生命与非生命状态之间。
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They have just a kind of very low-level soul.
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它们不过是非常低级的灵魂,
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It's called the vegetative soul,
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我们姑且称之为植物灵魂。
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because they lack movement,
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因为它们不动,
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and so they don't need to sense.
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因此它们也不需要感知。
04:32
Let's see.
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可事实又如何呢?
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Okay, some of the movements of the plants are very well-known.
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不错,众所周知,一些植物是可以运动的。
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This is a very fast movement.
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这是非常快速的运动。
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This is a Dionaea, a Venus fly trap
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这是捕蝇草,一株正在
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hunting snails --
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捕食蜗牛的捕蝇草。
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sorry for the snail.
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对不起了,蜗牛老弟。
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This has been something that has been refused for centuries,
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虽然证据确凿,数个世纪以来,人们
04:49
despite the evidence.
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一直拒绝承认这一事实。
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No one can say that the plants were able to eat an animal,
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没有人敢说植物可以吃动物,
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because it was against the order of nature.
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因为这有悖于自然等级(规律)。
04:58
But plants are also able
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但植物还可以
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to show a lot of movement.
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表现出很多种运动。
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Some of them are very well known, like the flowering.
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其中一些是人所共知的,比如开花。
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It's just a question to use some techniques
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不过,这需要借助一些技术才能看到,
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like the time lapse.
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比如快速播放。
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Some of them are much more sophisticated.
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而另外一些则非常高级。
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Look at this young bean
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请看这棵新生的豆子,
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that is moving to catch the light every time.
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它时刻移动着去追寻阳光。
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And it's really so graceful;
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它如此优雅,
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it's like a dancing angel.
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宛若一位翩翩起舞的天使。
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They are also able to play --
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它们也玩耍,
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they are really playing.
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它们真的会玩耍。
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These are young sunflowers,
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这些是向日葵幼苗,
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and what they are doing
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它们的行为
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cannot be described
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除非“玩耍”
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with any other terms than playing.
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不能形容。
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They are training themselves,
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像许多年幼的动物一样,
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as many young animals do,
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这些向日葵也要不断的训练自己,
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to the adult life
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直到成年;
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where they will be called to track the sun
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那时,它们要日日追随太阳
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all the day.
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的方向。
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They are able to respond to gravity, of course,
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当然,它们也对地球引力做出回应。
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so the shoots are growing
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所有幼苗
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against the vector of gravity
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朝着反地球引力方向向上生长,
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and the roots toward the vector of gravity.
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而根系则朝着引力方向向下延伸。
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But they are also able to sleep.
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植物也会睡觉。
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This is one, Mimosa pudica.
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这是种含羞草。
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So during the night,
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夜里,
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they curl the leaves
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它们卷起叶片,
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and reduce the movement,
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减少运动;
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and during the day, you have the opening of the leaves --
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天亮后,它们就舒展叶片——
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there is much more movement.
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还有很多很多植物运动的例子。
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This is interesting
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这非常有趣,
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because this sleeping machinery,
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因为这种睡眠机制
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it's perfectly conserved.
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被完美地保存了下来,
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It's the same in plants, in insects
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在植物、昆虫
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and in animals.
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和动物中,毫无差别。
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And so if you need to study this sleeping problem,
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如果你需要研究睡眠问题,
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it's easy to study on plants, for example,
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研究植物
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than in animals
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比研究动物要更容易;
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and it's much more easy even ethically.
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甚至从伦理角度来看,也更可行。
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It's a kind of vegetarian
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这是植物
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experimentation.
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实验。
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Plants are even able to communicate --
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植物也能够彼此交流,
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they are extraordinary communicators.
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它们是非常出色的交流者。
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They communicate with other plants.
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它们和其他植物交流,
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They are able to distinguish kin and non-kin.
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并能够辨识出亲子植物与非亲子植物。
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They communicate
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它们与
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with plants of other species
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植物交流,也与其他物种交流。
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and they communicate with animals
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比如,在传粉期间,
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by producing chemical volatiles,
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通过产生挥发性化合物,
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for example, during the pollination.
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它们与动物进行交流。
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Now with the pollination, it's a very serious issue for plants,
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传粉对植物来说是个非常严肃的问题,
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because they move the pollen from one flower to the other,
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因为它们要将花粉从一朵花传到另一朵花上,
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yet they cannot move from one flower to the other.
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而它们自己却无法从一朵花移动到另一朵花。
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So they need a vector --
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因此,它们需要一个媒介,
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and this vector,
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而这个媒介
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it's normally an animal.
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通常是动物。
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Many insects
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许多昆虫
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have been used by plants as vectors
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是植物
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for the transport of the pollination,
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传粉的媒介,
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but not just insects; even birds, reptiles,
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但传粉媒介又不限于昆虫;甚至鸟、爬行动物
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and mammals like bats rats
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以及哺乳动物,如老鼠和兔子,
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are normally used for the transportation of the pollen.
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都可以帮植物传播花粉。
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This is a serious business.
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这是一项严肃的“生意”。
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We have the plants that are giving to the animals
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有些植物为动物提供
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a kind of sweet substance --
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一种甘甜的物质——
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very energizing --
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富含高能量——
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having in change this transportation of the pollen.
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作为其传份的报偿。
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But some plants are manipulating animals,
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然而,有些植物则欺骗动物,
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like in the case of orchids
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比如,有些兰花,
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that promise sex and nectar
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佯装可以(与传粉昆虫)发生性关系并提供花蜜,
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and give in change nothing
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而帮其传粉的昆虫
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for the transportation of the pollen.
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最终得不到任何好处。
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Now, there is a big problem
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现在,
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behind all this behavior that we have seen.
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在所有我们看到的这些行为背后,隐藏着一个重大的问题。
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How is it possible to do this without a brain?
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没有大脑,如何能够实现这一切?
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We need to wait until 1880,
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直到1880年,
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when this big man,
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伟大的
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Charles Darwin,
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查尔斯·达尔文
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publishes a wonderful, astonishing book
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发表了一部叹为观止、震惊世人的著作,
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that starts a revolution.
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从此开启了一场革命。
08:18
The title is "The Power of Movement in Plants."
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书的名字叫《植物运动的力量》。
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No one was allowed to speak about movement in plants
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在查尔斯·达尔文之前,没有人敢谈论
08:23
before Charles Darwin.
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植物的运动。
08:25
In his book,
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本书
08:27
assisted by his son, Francis --
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是在他儿子弗朗西斯的协助下完成的。
08:29
who was the first professor of plant physiology in the world, in Cambridge --
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弗朗西斯是世界上第一位植物生理学教授,曾任职于剑桥大学。
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they took into consideration every single movement
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在书中,他们用了500页,考虑了
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for 500 pages.
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植物的每一个运动。
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And in the last paragraph of the book,
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本书的最后一段,
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it's a kind of stylistic mark,
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应该算是文体标记。
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because normally Charles Darwin stored,
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因为,通常来说,查尔斯·达尔文都是
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in the last paragraph of a book,
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在一本书的最后一段写下
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the most important message.
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最重要的信息。
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He wrote that,
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他写道,
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"It's hardly an exaggeration
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“说
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to say that the tip of the radical
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根尖相当于
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acts like the brain
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低等动物的大脑
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of one of the lower animals."
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并不夸张”。
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This is not a metaphor.
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这并非比喻。
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He wrote some very interesting letters to one of his friends
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他曾写过一些非常有趣的信笺给他的朋友
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who was J.D. Hooker, or at that time, president of the Royal Society,
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J.D.胡克讨论植物大脑的问题。
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so the maximum scientific authority in Britain
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那时,胡可是皇家学院的主席,
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speaking about the brain in the plants.
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也就是英国科学的最高权威。
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Now, this is a root apex
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现在,这是
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growing against a slope.
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倚斜坡生长的根端。
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So you can recognize this kind of movement,
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容易看出,这种运动
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the same movement that worms, snakes
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与蠕虫、蛇
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and every animal
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和所有其他
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that are moving on the ground without legs
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没有脚、在地上蠕动的动物相比
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is able to display.
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没有差别。
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And it's not an easy movement
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这种运动并不容易,
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because, to have this kind of movement,
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因为这
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you need to move different regions of the root
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要求根的不同区域都要运动,
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and to synchronize these different regions
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并且在没有大脑控制的情况下,
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without having a brain.
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完成这些区域的协同运动。
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So we studied the root apex
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因此,我们研究了根端,
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and we found that there is a specific region
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并发现了一个特殊区域,
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that is here, depicted in blue --
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即蓝色标记的部分——
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that is called the "transition zone."
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我们姑且称之为过渡区。
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And this region, it's a very small region --
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这个区域非常之小,
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it's less than one millimeter.
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长度不足1毫米。
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And in this small region
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但它却是
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you have the highest consumption
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植物中耗氧最高
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of oxygen in the plants
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的区域。
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and more important,
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更重要的是,
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you have these kinds of signals here.
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各种信号都产生于此。
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The signals that you are seeing here are action potential,
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你所见的这些信号是动作电势,
10:13
are the same signals
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这与
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that the neurons of my brain, of our brain,
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我大脑、我们大脑中的神经元
10:18
use to exchange information.
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用来进行信息交换的信号相同。
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Now we know that a root apex
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现在我们知道,一个根端
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has just a few hundred cells
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只有几百个
10:26
that show this kind of feature,
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具有此种特征的细胞,
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but we know how big
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但我们更知道,
10:30
the root apparatus of a small plant, like a plant of rye.
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一小株植物,比如一棵黑麦,
10:33
We have almost
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有多么庞大数量的根端——
10:35
14 million roots.
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差不多14,000,000个根。
10:37
We have 11 and a half million
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因此,共有11,500,000个
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root apex
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根端,
10:42
and a total length of 600 or more kilometers
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其总长度达到甚至超过600公里,
10:45
and a very high surface area.
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同时具有巨大的表面积。
10:47
Now let's imagine
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我们假想
10:49
that each single root apex
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每一个根端
10:51
is working in network with all the others.
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都与所有其他的根端在网络中一起工作。
10:54
Here were have on the left, the Internet
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这里,左侧是英特网,
10:57
and on the right, the root apparatus.
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右侧是根组织。
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They work in the same way.
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它们有着相同的工作方式。
11:02
They are a network
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它们都是由
11:04
of small computing machines,
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小的计算机构成的网络,
11:06
working in networks.
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并在网络中工作。
11:08
And why are they so similar?
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为什么它们会如此相似?
11:10
Because they evolved
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因为它们有着
11:12
for the same reason:
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相同的进化原因:
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to survive predation.
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在捕食中生存下来。
11:17
They work in the same way.
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它们的工作方式一致。
11:19
So you can remove 90 percent of the root apparatus
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因此,你可以去除90%的根组织,
11:22
and the plants [continue] to work.
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而植物依旧可以存活;
11:24
You can remove 90 percent of the Internet
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你也可以出去90%的因特网,
11:27
and it is [continuing] to work.
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它也仍然能够工作。
11:30
So, a suggestion
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由此,
11:32
for the people working with networks:
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对于和网络打交道的人,这里有一个建议:
11:35
plants are able
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植物可以
11:38
to give you good suggestions
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对如何实现网络进化
11:40
about how to evolve networks.
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提供不错的建议。
11:43
And another possibility
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另外一个可能性
11:46
is a technological possibility.
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是技术方面的。
11:49
Let's imagine
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我们假想,
11:51
that we can build robots
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有一天,我们可以
11:53
and robots that are inspired by plants.
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受植物的启发而制造出机器人。
11:56
Until now,
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到目前为止,
11:58
the man was inspired
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人们制造机器人
12:01
just by man or the animals
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的灵感仅仅来自与人
12:03
in producing a robot.
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或动物。
12:05
We have the animaloid --
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我们有动物机器人——
12:08
and the normal robots inspired by animals,
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受动物启发而制造的机器人,
12:10
insectoid, so on.
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昆虫机器人,等等。
12:12
We have the androids
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我们也有受人启发
12:14
that are inspired by man.
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而制造的人形机器人。
12:17
But why have we not any plantoid?
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但是,为什么没有植物机器人?
12:20
Well, if you want to fly,
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是的,如果你想飞,
12:22
it's good that you look at birds --
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你应该观察鸟类,
12:24
to be inspired by birds.
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受鸟类的启发。
12:26
But if you want to explore soils,
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但如果你想探察土壤,
12:29
or if you want to colonize
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或在一个
12:32
new territory,
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新的地区定居,
12:34
to best thing that you can do is to be inspired by plants
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那你最好是跟植物学习,
12:37
that are masters in doing this.
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因为植物深谙此道。
12:40
We have another possibility
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在我们实验室,另外一个可能性
12:42
we are working [on] in our lab,
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是制造
12:44
[which] is to build hybrids.
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“杂交体”。
12:46
It's much more easy to build hybrids.
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制造杂交体比制造机器人更容易得多。
12:49
Hybrid means it's something
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杂交体是指
12:51
that's half living and half machine.
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一半具有生命,而另一半是机器。
12:54
It's much more easy to work with plants
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与动物相比,用植物做实验
12:56
than with animals.
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容易得多。
12:58
They have computing power,
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植物有计算力,
13:00
they have electrical signals.
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也有电子信号,
13:02
The connection with the machine is much more easy,
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因此,植物与机器的连结更加容易,
13:05
much more even ethically possible.
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甚至在伦理上也更可行。
13:10
And these are three possibilities
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目前,我们
13:12
that we are working on
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制造
13:15
to build hybrids,
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杂交体的三种可能包括:
13:17
driven by algae
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用藻类,
13:19
or by the leaves at the end,
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用叶片
13:22
by the most, most powerful parts of the plants,
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以及用植物最强大的部分——
13:24
by the roots.
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根系。
13:26
Well, thank you for your attention.
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谢谢大家!
13:28
And before I finish,
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在结束演讲前,
13:31
I would like to reassure that no snails were harmed
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我想再次申明,并没有蜗牛因
13:34
in making this presentation.
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此次演讲而受到伤害。
13:36
Thank you.
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谢谢!
13:38
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