Stefon Harris: There are no mistakes on the bandstand

159,932 views ・ 2011-12-09

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翻译人员: Chunxiang Qian 校对人员: Angelia King
00:15
Okay, I have no idea what we're going to play.
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好吧 我也不知道我们马上会演奏什么
00:18
I won't be able to tell you what it is until it happens.
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在演奏开始前我也没法告诉你们今天的曲目
00:21
I didn't realize there was going to be a little music before.
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我也不知道演奏前会有段音乐
00:24
So I think I'm going to start with what I just heard.
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那就用我刚刚听到的音乐开场吧
00:26
(Music)
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(音乐)
06:01
(Applause)
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(掌声)
06:10
Okay, so first of all,
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好的 首先
06:12
let's welcome Mr. Jamire Williams on the drums,
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让我们欢迎鼓手杰迈尔・威廉姆斯先生
06:15
(Applause)
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(掌声)
06:18
Burniss Travis on the bass,
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贝斯手贝尔尼斯・特拉维斯
06:20
(Applause)
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(掌声)
06:22
and Mr. Christian Sands on the piano.
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还有钢琴手克里斯蒂安・桑滋
06:25
(Applause)
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(掌声)
06:28
So the bandstand, as we call it,
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我们称之为的演奏台
06:30
this is an incredible space.
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是个不可思议的地方
06:32
It is really a sacred space.
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是个神圣的地方
06:34
And one of the things that is really sacred about it
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之所以神圣是因为
06:36
is that you have no opportunity to think about the future,
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你无法思考未来
06:39
or the past.
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或者过去
06:41
You really are alive right here in this moment.
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你真切地活在当下
06:43
There are so many decisions being made
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当你走上演奏台
06:45
when you walk on the bandstand.
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你就要作很多决定
06:47
We had no idea what key we were going to play in.
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我们不知道既定曲目
06:50
In the middle, we sort of made our way
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在演奏中我们揉合进了
06:52
into a song called "Titi Boom."
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一首叫“Titi Boom”的曲子
06:54
But that could have happened -- maybe, maybe not.
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但这个也是说不准的事
06:57
Everyone's listening. We're responding.
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每个人都在听 都在回应
06:59
You have no time for projected ideas.
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没有时间留给预期的想法
07:01
So the idea of a mistake:
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所谓的失误:
07:04
From the perspective of a jazz musician,
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从一个爵士乐手来看
07:06
it's easier to talk about someone else's mistake.
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谈论其他人的失误比较容易些
07:11
So the way I perceive a mistake when I'm on the bandstand --
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当我站在演奏台上 我对错误的理解是-
07:14
first of all, we don't really see it as a mistake.
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首先 我们并不把它看成一个失误
07:16
The only mistake lies
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除非
07:18
in that I'm not able to perceive
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我不能指出
07:20
what it is that someone else did.
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别人的失误
07:22
Every "mistake" is an opportunity in jazz.
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爵士乐里每一个“失误”都是一次机会
07:25
So it's hard to even describe
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所以要找出一个弹错的音
07:27
what a funny note would be.
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并不容易
07:29
So for example, if I played a color, like we were playing on a palette,
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比如 如果我现在从低音谈到高音 就像我们刚刚那样
07:32
that sounded like this ...
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听起来就是...
07:34
(Music)
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(音乐)
07:36
So if Christian played a note -- like play an F.
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如果克里斯蒂安弹出F调
07:39
(Music)
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(音乐)
07:41
See, these are all right inside of the color palette.
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那么这一段小调听起来还不错
07:44
If you played an E.
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如果是E调
07:47
See, these all lie right inside
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听起来也挺好
07:49
of this general emotional palette that we were painting.
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和整体的调子协调
07:51
If you played an F# though,
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但是如果加入升F调
07:53
(Dissonance)
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(不和谐音)
07:57
to most people's ears, they would perceive that as a mistake.
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对大部分人来说这就是个错误
08:00
So I'm going to show you, we're going to play just for a second.
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那么我来演示一下 我们快速弹奏一下
08:02
And we're going to play on this palette.
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我们会弹这个调子
08:04
And at some point, Christian will introduce this note.
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然后克里斯蒂安就加入这个音
08:06
And we won't react to it.
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我们不去应和它
08:08
He'll introduce it for a second
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他将展示一下
08:10
and then I'll stop, I'll talk for a second.
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然后我会停下来 说明一下
08:12
We'll see what happens when we play with this palette.
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让我们看看这段调子会是怎样的
08:14
(Music)
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08:39
So someone could conceptually perceive that as a mistake.
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有人会把这个理解为失误
08:43
The only way that I would say it was a mistake
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而我的理解是说它是个失误
08:45
is in that we didn't react to it.
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只是因为我们没有去回应它
08:47
It was an opportunity that was missed.
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这是个错失的机会
08:49
So it's unpredictable. We'll paint this palette again.
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所以演奏是捉摸不定的事 我们会再弹奏这段调子
08:52
He'll play it. I don't know how we'll react to it, but something will change.
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他弹奏这调子 我也不知道我会怎样去回应 但是肯定会有变化
08:55
We'll all accept his ideas,
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我们将接受他的想法
08:57
or not.
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但也不一定
08:59
(Music)
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(音乐)
10:08
So you see, he played this note.
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那么 他弹奏了这段调子
10:10
I ended up creating a melody out of it.
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我借此创作了一段旋律
10:12
The texture changed in the drums this time.
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这次鼓手的演奏改变了旋律的感觉
10:14
It got a little bit more rhythmic, a little bit more intense
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加入了更多节奏 更加紧凑
10:17
in response to how I responded to it.
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我们之间相互呼应
10:19
So there is no mistake.
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这样就没有失误了
10:21
The only mistake is if I'm not aware,
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除非我没有去回应
10:23
if each individual musician is not aware
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其他乐手也没有回应
10:25
and accepting enough of his fellow band member
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并没有接受乐队同伴的想法
10:29
to incorporate the idea and we don't allow for creativity.
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而抹杀了创新
10:32
So jazz, this bandstand is absolutely amazing.
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所以在爵士乐里 演奏台非常不可思议
10:36
It's a very purifying experience.
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这是个很纯粹的体验
10:38
And I know that I speak for all of us when I tell you that we don't take it for granted.
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我在此代表所有乐队成员说出这个观点 我们很珍视它
10:41
We know that to be able to come on the bandstand and play music is a blessing.
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我们能同台演奏是一种福气
10:45
So how does this all relate to behavioral finance?
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那么这个跟行为金融学是什么关系呢?
10:48
Well we're jazz musicians,
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我们是爵士乐手
10:50
so stereotypically we don't have a great relationship to finance.
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所以大家都觉得我们跟金融不是一条路上的
10:52
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:55
Anyway, I just wanted to sort of point out the way that we handle it.
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不管怎么说 我想说的就是我们看待它的看法
10:58
And the other dynamic of it
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它的动态性就像
11:00
is that we don't micromanage in jazz.
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我们在爵士乐里不进行微观管理
11:03
You have some people who do.
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有些人会这么做
11:05
But what that does
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但是这会
11:07
is it actually limits the artistic possibilities.
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限制乐手的艺术潜能
11:09
If I come up and I dictate to the band
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如果我只跟乐队说
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that I want to play like this and I want the music to go this way,
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我想这么演奏 我想让音乐这么走
11:14
and I just jump right in ...
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然后我就立刻开始
11:16
ready, just play some time.
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准备好了 就弹奏一会儿
11:18
One, two, one, two, three, four.
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一,二,一二三四
11:20
(Music)
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11:32
It's kind of chaotic because I'm bullying my ideas.
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这就有点嘈杂 因为我在滥施我自己的想法
11:34
I'm telling them, "You come with me over this way."
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我跟他们讲:“你得跟着我走。”
11:36
If I really want the music to go there,
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如果我真想让他们跟着我走
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the best way for me to do it is to listen.
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最好方法就是倾听
11:40
This is a science of listening.
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这是个倾听的学问
11:42
It has far more to do with what I can perceive
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我能感受到的
11:44
than what it is that I can do.
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比我能做的更加重要
11:46
So if I want the music to get to a certain level of intensity,
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如果我想让音乐更紧张
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the first step for me is
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首先我要做的
11:51
to be patient, to listen to what's going on
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是耐心 要先倾听
11:53
and pull from something that's going on around me.
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然后再演绎
11:56
When you do that, you engage and inspire the other musicians
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当你这样做的时候 你会启发其他乐手
11:59
and they give you more, and gradually it builds.
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当他们积极回应 音乐就浑然天成了
12:01
Watch. One, two, a one, two, three, four.
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展示一下 一,二,一二三四
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(Music)
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(音乐)
12:44
Totally different experience when I'm pulling ideas.
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当我这样引导想法的话 就是完全不一样的效果
12:47
It's much more organic. It's much more nuanced.
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非常有组织的 更多微妙的细节处理
12:49
It's not about bullying my vision or anything like that.
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而不是把我的想法强加给别人
12:51
It's about being here in the moment,
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我们得在那一刻
12:53
accepting one another
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接纳别人
12:55
and allowing creativity to flow.
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并让创造力源源不绝地流动
12:57
Thank you.
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谢谢
12:59
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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