A tale of mental illness | Elyn Saks

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Translator: Morton Bast Reviewer: Thu-Huong Ha
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Prevodilac: Ivana Korom Lektor: Mile Živković
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So I'm a woman with chronic schizophrenia.
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Ja sam žena koja boluje od hronične šizofrenije.
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I've spent hundreds of days
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Provela sam na stotine dana
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in psychiatric hospitals.
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u psihijatrijskim ustanovama.
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I might have ended up spending
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Mogla sam provesti
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most of my life on the back ward of a hospital,
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većinu svog života u bolničkoj sobi,
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but that isn't how my life turned out.
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no moj život je uzeo drugi pravac.
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In fact, I've managed to stay clear of hospitals
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Naime, uspešno izbegavam boravak u bolnici
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for almost three decades,
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već skoro tri decenije
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perhaps my proudest accomplishment.
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i to je verovatno nešto čime se najviše ponosim u životu.
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That's not to say that I've remained clear
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Međutim, to ne znači da sam se izborila
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of all psychiatric struggles.
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sa svim psihijatrijskim problemima.
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After I graduated from the Yale Law School and
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Nakon što sam diplomirala pravo na Jejlu
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got my first law job, my New Haven analyst, Dr. White,
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i dobila svoj prvi posao u struci, moj psihijatar iz Nju Hejvena, Dr. Vajt,
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announced to me that he was going to close his practice
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saopštio mi je da će zatvoriti ordinaciju
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in three months, several years
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za tri meseca, dok sam ja planirala da napustim
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before I had planned to leave New Haven.
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Nju Hejven tek za nekoliko godina.
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White had been enormously helpful to me,
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Dr Vajt mi je bio od velike pomoći
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and the thought of his leaving
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i pomisao na njegov odlazak
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shattered me.
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me je duboko potresla.
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My best friend Steve,
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Moj nabolji prijatelj Stiv
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sensing that something was terribly wrong,
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osetio je da nešto nije u redu
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flew out to New Haven to be with me.
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i doputovao je u Nju Hejven da bude sa mnom.
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Now I'm going to quote from some of my writings:
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Citiraću sada neke od svojih zapisa:
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"I opened the door to my studio apartment.
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"Otvorila sam vrata svoje garsonjere.
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Steve would later tell me that,
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Stiv mi je kasnije rekao da,
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for all the times he had seen me psychotic, nothing
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iako je već imao prilike da me vidi u psihotičnom stanju,
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could have prepared him for what he saw that day.
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ništa ga nije moglo pripremiti za ono što je tada video.
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For a week or more, I had barely eaten.
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Nedelju dana ili više gotovo uopšte nisam jela.
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I was gaunt. I walked
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Delovala sam ispijeno. Hodala sam
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as though my legs were wooden.
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kao da su mi noge od olova.
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My face looked and felt like a mask.
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Osećala sam da mi je lice kao maska, tako je i izgledalo.
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I had closed all the curtains in the apartment, so
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Navukla sam sve zavese u stanu, tako da je
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in the middle of the day
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usred bela dana
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the apartment was in near total darkness.
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stan bio skoro u potpunosti zamračen.
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The air was fetid, the room a shambles.
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Vazduh je bio ustajao, soba u haosu.
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Steve, both a lawyer and a psychologist, has treated
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Stiv, po struci pravnik i psiholog, lečio je
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many patients with severe mental illness, and to this day
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mnoge pacijente sa teškim mentalnim poremećajima, i on i danas
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he'll say I was as bad as any he had ever seen.
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tvrdi da nikada nije video pacijenta u ozbiljnijem stanju.
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'Hi,' I said, and then I returned to the couch,
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"Zdravo," rekla sam pre nego što sam se vratila na kauč,
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where I sat in silence for several moments.
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gde sam sedela neko vreme u tišini.
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'Thank you for coming, Steve.
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"Hvala što si došao, Stive.
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Crumbling world, word, voice.
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Svet se ruši, reč, glas.
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Tell the clocks to stop.
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Zaustavi satove.
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Time is. Time has come.'
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Vreme je. Došlo je vreme."
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'White is leaving,' Steve said somberly.
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"Vajt odlazi", rekao je Stiv ozbiljno.
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'I'm being pushed into a grave. The situation is grave,' I moan.
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"Gurnuli su me u grob. Situacija je ozbiljna", progunđala sam.
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'Gravity is pulling me down.
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"Gravitacija me ozbiljno vuče na dole.
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I'm scared. Tell them to get away.'"
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Uplašena sam. Reci im da odu.'"
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As a young woman, I was in a psychiatric hospital
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Kao mlada žena, u psihijatrijskoj bolnici
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on three different occasions for lengthy periods.
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sam bila 3 puta, na duže vreme.
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My doctors diagnosed me with chronic schizophrenia,
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Lekari su mi dijagnostikovali hroničnu šizofreniju
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and gave me a prognosis of "grave."
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i prognoza je bila "ozbiljna".
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That is, at best, I was expected to live in a board and care,
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U najboljem slučaju, predvideli su da ću živeti u domu
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and work at menial jobs.
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i raditi nekvalifikovane poslove.
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Fortunately, I did not actually
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Srećom, nisam ostvarila
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enact that grave prognosis.
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tu užasnu prognozu.
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Instead, I'm a chaired Professor of Law, Psychology
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Umesto toga, ja sam glavni profesor prava,
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and Psychiatry at the USC Gould School of Law,
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psihologije i psihijatrije na Pravnom fakultetu u Južnoj Kaliforniji,
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I have many close friends
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imam mnogo bliskih prijatelja
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and I have a beloved husband, Will, who's here with us today.
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i voljenog muža Vila, koji je ovde s nama danas.
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(Applause) Thank you.
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(Aplauz) Hvala.
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He's definitely the star of my show.
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On je sigurno zvezda moje priče.
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I'd like to share with you how that happened, and also
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Volela bih da podelim sa vama kako se to desilo
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describe my experience of being psychotic.
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i da opišem svoje psihotično iskustvo.
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I hasten to add that it's my experience,
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Naglašavam da je to moje iskustvo,
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because everyone becomes psychotic in his or her own way.
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jer svako postane psihotičan na svoj način.
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Let's start with the definition of schizophrenia.
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Počnimo sa definicijom šizofrenije.
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Schizophrenia is a brain disease.
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To je mentalna bolest.
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Its defining feature is psychosis, or being
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Ono što je definiše je psihoza,
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out of touch with reality.
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gubitak dodira sa realnošću.
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Delusions and hallucinations
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Deluzije i halucinacije
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are hallmarks of the illness.
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su obeležja bolesti.
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Delusions are fixed and false beliefs that aren't responsive
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Deluzije su ukorenjena lažna uverenja
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to evidence, and hallucinations are false sensory experiences.
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neosetljiva na dokaze, a halucinacije su lažna senzorna iskustva.
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For example, when I'm psychotic I often have
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Na primer, u stanju psihoze često imam uverenje
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the delusion that I've killed hundreds of thousands
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da sam svojim mislima ubila
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of people with my thoughts.
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stotine hiljada ljudi.
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I sometimes have the idea that
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Ponekada mislim
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nuclear explosions are about to be set off in my brain.
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da će doći do nuklearnih eksplozija u mom mozgu.
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Occasionally, I have hallucinations,
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Ponekad imam halucinacije,
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like one time I turned around and saw a man
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kao kad sam se jednom okrenula i ugledala čoveka
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with a raised knife.
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sa nožem u ruci.
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Imagine having a nightmare while you're awake.
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Zamislite da imate noćnu moru u budnom stanju.
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Often, speech and thinking become disorganized
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Često govor i mišljenje postaju dezorganizovani
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to the point of incoherence.
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to tačke besmisla.
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Loose associations involves putting together words
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Nepovezane asocijacije uključuju spajanje reči
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that may sound a lot alike but don't make sense,
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koje možda zvuče slično, ali nemaju smisla
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and if the words get jumbled up enough, it's called "word salad."
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i ako se reči dovoljno pomešaju, to se naziva salatom od reči.
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Contrary to what many people think, schizophrenia is not
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Suprotno mišljenju mnogih, šizofrenija nije
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the same as multiple personality disorder or split personality.
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isto što i poremećaj višestruke ili podeljene ličnosti.
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The schizophrenic mind is not split, but shattered.
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Šizofreni um nije podeljen, nego rascepan.
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Everyone has seen a street person,
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Svi su videli beskućnika,
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unkempt, probably ill-fed,
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neurednog, verovatno neuhranjenog
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standing outside of an office building muttering
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kako stoji ispred neke zgrade i mrmlja
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to himself or shouting.
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za sebe ili viče.
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This person is likely to have some form of schizophrenia.
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Verovatno ta osoba ima neku vrstu šizofrenije.
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But schizophrenia presents itself across a wide array
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Ali šizofrenija se javlja kod osoba
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of socioeconomic status, and there are people
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svih socioekonomskih prilika, postoje ljudi
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with the illness who are full-time professionals
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sa bolešću koji su profesionalci
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with major responsibilities.
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sa ogromnim odgovornostima.
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Several years ago, I decided
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Pre nekoliko godina odlučila sam
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to write down my experiences and my personal journey,
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da zapišem svoja iskustva i lični put
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and I want to share some more of that story with you today
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i danas želim da deo te priče podelim sa vama
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to convey the inside view.
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kako bih prenela svoj pogled.
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So the following episode happened the seventh week
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Sledeća epizoda desila se sedme nedelje
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of my first semester of my first year at Yale Law School.
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mog prvog semestra, prve godine na studijama prava na Jejlu.
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Quoting from my writings:
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Citiram svoje beleške:
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"My two classmates, Rebel and Val, and I had made the date
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"Dvoje kolega, Rebel, Val i ja smo se dogovorili
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to meet in the law school library on Friday night
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da se nađemo u petak uveče u školskoj biblioteci
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to work on our memo assignment together.
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da radimo zajedno na zadatku.
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But we didn't get far before I was talking in ways
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Ali nismo daleko dogurali kad sam počela da govorim
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that made no sense.
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potpuno besmisleno.
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'Memos are visitations,' I informed them.
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"Zadaci su posete", obavestila sam ih.
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'They make certain points. The point is on your head.
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"Imaju određenu poentu. Ona je u našoj glavi.
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Pat used to say that. Have you killed you anyone?'
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Pat je to govorila. Da li ste nekoga ubili?"
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Rebel and Val looked at me
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Rebel i Val su me pogledali
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as if they or I had been
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kao da je neko prosuo
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splashed in the face with cold water.
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hladnu vodu na njihova ili moje lice.
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'What are you talking about, Elyn?'
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"O čemu to govoriš, Elin?"
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'Oh, you know, the usual. Who's what, what's who,
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"O, znate, o uobičajenom. Ko je šta, šta je ko,
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heaven and hell. Let's go out on the roof.
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o raju i paklu. Hajdemo na krov.
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It's a flat surface. It's safe.'
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To je ravna površina. Bezbedno je."
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Rebel and Val followed
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Oni su me pratili
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and they asked what had gotten into me.
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i pitali šta je ušlo u mene.
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'This is the real me,' I announced,
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"Ovo sam prava ja", objavila sam,
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waving my arms above my head.
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mašući rukama iznad glave.
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And then, late on a Friday night, on the roof
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A onda, kasno jednog petka na krovu
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of the Yale Law School,
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pravnog fakulteta na Jejlu,
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I began to sing, and not quietly either.
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počela sam da pevam i to ne tiho.
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'Come to the Florida sunshine bush.
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"Dođite do sunčanog grma Floride.
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Do you want to dance?'
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Da li želite da plešete?"
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'Are you on drugs?' one asked. 'Are you high?'
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"Jesi drogirana", pitali su me, "Jesi naduvana?"
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'High? Me? No way, no drugs.
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"Naduvana? Ja? Nema šanse, nema droga.
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Come to the Florida sunshine bush,
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Dođite do sunčanog grma Floride,
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where there are lemons, where they make demons.'
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gde ima limunova, gde su demoni."
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'You're frightening me,' one of them said, and Rebel and Val
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"Plašiš me", reče jedno od njih
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headed back into the library.
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i krenuše nazad u bibioteku.
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I shrugged and followed them.
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Slegla sam ramenima i pošla za njima.
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Back inside, I asked my classmates if they were
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Unutra, pitala sam kolege
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having the same experience of words jumping around
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da li i oni doživljavaju da reči skaču naokolo
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our cases as I was.
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po našim slučajevima kao i ja.
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'I think someone's infiltrated my copies of the cases,' I said.
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"Mislim da je neko ušao u kopije mojih slučajeva", rekla sam.
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'We've got to case the joint.
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"Moramo da učimo zglob.
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I don't believe in joints, but
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Ne verujem u zglobove,
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they do hold your body together.'" --
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ali oni drže vaše telo" --
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It's an example of loose associations. --
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to je primer nepovezanih asocijacija --
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"Eventually I made my way back to my dorm room,
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"Na kraju sam se nekako vratila do sobe
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and once there, I couldn't settle down.
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i tamo nisam mogla da se smirim.
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My head was too full of noise,
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Glava mi je bila puna buke,
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too full of orange trees and law memos I could not write
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prepuna narandžastog drveća i pravnih zadataka koje nisam
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and mass murders I knew I would be responsible for.
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mogla da napišem i masovnih ubistava za koja sam znala da ću biti odgovorna.
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Sitting on my bed, I rocked back and forth,
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Sedeći na krevetu, ljuljala sam se napred - nazad,
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moaning in fear and isolation."
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mumlajući u strahu i izolaciji."
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This episode led to my first hospitalization in America.
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Ova epizoda je dovela do moje prve hospitalizacije u Americi.
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I had two earlier in England.
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Prethodna dva puta bilo je u Engleskoj.
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Continuing with the writings:
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Nastavljam sa pisanjem:
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"The next morning I went to my professor's office to ask
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"Sledećeg jutra otišla sam do profesorove kancelarije da tražim
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for an extension on the memo assignment,
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produženje za zadatak,
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and I began gibbering unintelligably
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i počela sam nejasno da lupetam
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as I had the night before,
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kao i prethodne noći,
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and he eventually brought me to the emergency room.
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pa me je na kraju doveo do urgentnog centra.
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Once there, someone I'll just call 'The Doctor'
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Tamo, neko koga ću nazvati samo Doktor,
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and his whole team of goons swooped down,
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i ceo njegov tim gorila su se obrušili,
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lifted me high into the air,
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podigli me visoko u vazduh
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and slammed me down on a metal bed
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i bacili me na metalni krevet
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with such force that I saw stars.
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sa takvom silinom da sam videla zvezde.
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Then they strapped my legs and arms to the metal bed
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Onda su mi vezali noge i ruke za metalni krevet
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with thick leather straps.
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debelim kožnim kaiševima.
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A sound came out of my mouth that I'd never heard before:
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Iz mene je izašao zvuk kakav ranije nisam čula:
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half groan, half scream,
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pola vrisak, pola urlik,
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barely human and pure terror.
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jedva ljudski i čist užas.
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Then the sound came again,
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Onda se ponovio,
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forced from somewhere deep inside my belly
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iz dubine mog stomaka
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and scraping my throat raw."
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i cepajući mi grlo."
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This incident resulted in my involuntary hospitalization.
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Ovaj incident rezultirao je prisilnom hospitalizacijom.
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One of the reasons the doctors gave for hospitalizing me
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Jedan od razloga koji su doktori naveli
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against my will was that I was
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za prisilnu hospitalizaciju je da sam
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"gravely disabled."
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"smrtno onesposobljena."
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To support this view, they wrote in my chart that I was unable
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Da bi to podržali, u mom kartonu su napisali
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to do my Yale Law School homework.
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da sam nesposobna da radim domaće zadatke.
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I wondered what that meant about much of the rest of New Haven.
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Pitala sam se šta to znači za većinu ostatka Nju Hejvena.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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During the next year, I would
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Tokom sledeće godine,
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spend five months in a psychiatric hospital.
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provela sam pet meseci u psihijatrijskoj bolnici.
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At times, I spent up to 20 hours in mechanical restraints,
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Ponekad bih provela i do 20 sati vezana,
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arms tied, arms and legs tied down,
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vezanih ruku, ruku i nogu vezanih,
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arms and legs tied down with a net tied
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ruku i nogu vezanih i sa mrežom
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tightly across my chest.
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vezanom tesno preko grudi.
07:42
I never struck anyone.
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Nikada nisam udarila nikoga.
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I never harmed anyone. I never made any direct threats.
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Nikome nisam naudila. Nikada direktno pretila.
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If you've never been restrained yourself, you may have
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Ako nikada niste bili vezani,
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a benign image of the experience.
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možda imate benignu sliku tog iskustva.
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There's nothing benign about it.
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U tome nema ništa benigno.
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Every week in the United States,
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Procenjuje se da svake nedelje
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it's been estimated that one to three people die in restraints.
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u Sjedinjenim Državama jedna do tri osobe umre vezana.
07:59
They strangle, they aspirate their vomit,
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Zadave se, udave sopstvenom povraćkom,
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they suffocate, they have a heart attack.
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uguše se, imaju srčani udar.
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It's unclear whether using mechanical restraints
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Nejasno je da li mehaničko sputavanje
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is actually saving lives or costing lives.
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u stvari čuva ili uništava živote.
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While I was preparing to write my student note
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Dok sam se pripremala da napišem studentski rad
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for the Yale Law Journal on mechanical restraints,
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o mehaničkom sputavanju,
08:14
I consulted an eminent law professor who was also
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konsultovala sam eminentnog profesora prava koji je
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a psychiatrist,
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i psihijatar,
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and said surely he would agree
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i mislila da će se složiti
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that restraints must be degrading,
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da ono degradira,
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painful and frightening.
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da je bolno i zastrašujuće.
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He looked at me in a knowing way, and said,
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Pogledao me znalački i rekao:
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"Elyn, you don't really understand:
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"Elin, ne razumeš:
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These people are psychotic.
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ti ljudi su psihotični.
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They're different from me and you.
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Drugačiji su od tebe i mene.
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They wouldn't experience restraints as we would."
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Ne doživljavaju sputavanje kako bismo ti i ja doživeli."
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I didn't have the courage to tell him in that moment that,
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U tom trenutku nisam imala hrabrosti
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no, we're not that different from him.
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da mu kažem da nismo drugačiji od njega.
08:38
We don't like to be strapped down to a bed
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Ne volimo da smo vezani za krevet
08:40
and left to suffer for hours any more than he would.
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i ostavljeni da patimo satima, ništa više od njega.
08:43
In fact, until very recently,
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U stvari, do skoro,
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and I'm sure some people still hold it as a view,
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a sigurna sam da i dalje neki dele to mišljenje,
08:47
that restraints help psychiatric patients feel safe.
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sputavanje pomaže psihijatrijskim pacijentima da se osećaju bezbedno.
08:50
I've never met a psychiatric patient
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Nikada nisam upoznala pacijenta
08:52
who agreed with that view.
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koji se slaže sa tim.
08:54
Today, I'd like to say I'm very pro-psychiatry
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Želim da kažem da sam danas veoma za psihijatriju,
08:56
but very anti-force.
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ali veoma protiv sile.
08:58
I don't think force is effective as treatment, and I think
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Mislim da sila nije efektan tretman i da je užasno koristiti je
09:01
using force is a terrible thing to do to another person
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na drugoj osobi
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with a terrible illness.
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koja pati od užasne bolesti.
09:05
Eventually, I came to Los Angeles
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Na kraju sam došla u Los Anđeles
09:08
to teach at the University of Southern California Law School.
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da predajem da Pravnom fakultetu Južne Kalifornije.
09:10
For years, I had resisted medication,
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Godinama sam odbijala terapiju
09:12
making many, many efforts to get off.
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i naporno radila da je prekinem.
09:14
I felt that if I could manage without medication,
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Osećala sam da, ako mogu bez lekova,
09:17
I could prove that, after all,
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mogla bih da dokažem
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I wasn't really mentally ill, it was some terrible mistake.
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da nisam zapravo mentalno bolesna i da je to bila neka užasna greška.
09:22
My motto was the less medicine, the less defective.
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Moj moto je bio - manje lekova, manje štete.
09:25
My L.A. analyst, Dr. Kaplan, was urging me
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Moj analitičar iz Los Anđelesa, dr Kaplan, me je nagovarao
09:28
just to stay on medication and get on with my life,
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da ostanem na lekovima, da nastavim sa životom
09:31
but I decided I wanted to make one last college try to get off.
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ali odlučila sam da još jednom probam da prekinem.
09:34
Quoting from the text:
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Citiram svoj tekst:
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"I started the reduction of my meds, and within a short time
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"Počela sam da smanjujem lekove, i za kratko vreme
09:39
I began feeling the effects.
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počela da osećam efekte.
09:41
After returning from a trip to Oxford, I marched into
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Po povratku sa puta iz Oksforda, umarširala sam
09:44
Kaplan's office, headed straight for the corner, crouched down,
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u Kaplanovu kancelariju, pravo ka ćošku i srušila se,
09:48
covered my face, and began shaking.
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pokrila lice i počela da se tresem.
09:50
All around me I sensed evil beings poised with daggers.
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Svuda okolo sam osećala zla bića sa bodežima.
09:53
They'd slice me up in thin slices
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Isekli bi me na trake
09:55
or make me swallow hot coals.
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ili terali da gutam vreo ugalj.
09:57
Kaplan would later describe me as 'writhing in agony.'
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Kaplan je kasnije opisao da sam se tresla u agoniji.
10:00
Even in this state, what he accurately described as
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Čak i u ovom stanju, koje je on tačno opisao
10:03
acutely and forwardly psychotic,
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kao akutnu uznapredovalu šizofreniju,
10:05
I refused to take more medication.
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odbila sam da uzmem još lekova.
10:07
The mission is not yet complete.
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Misija još nije završena.
10:10
Immediately after the appointment with Kaplan,
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Odmah posle susreta sa Kaplanom,
10:12
I went to see Dr. Marder, a schizophrenia expert
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otišla sam da vidim dr Mardena, stručnjaka za šizofreniju
10:15
who was following me for medication side effects.
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koji je pratio neželjene efekte mojih lekova.
10:17
He was under the impression that I had a mild psychotic illness.
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Imao je utisak da patim od blaže psihotične bolesti.
10:20
Once in his office, I sat on his couch, folded over,
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Jednom sam u njegovoj kancelariji sela na kauč, savila se
10:23
and began muttering.
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i počela da mumlam.
10:25
'Head explosions and people trying to kill.
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"Eksplozije u glavi i ljudi koji pokušavaju da ubiju.
10:27
Is it okay if I totally trash your office?'
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Da li je u redu ako Vam potpuno uništim kancelariju?"
10:30
'You need to leave if you think you're going to do that,'
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"Ako misliš da ćeš to da uradiš, moraš da odeš",
10:32
said Marder.
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rekao je Marder.
10:33
'Okay. Small. Fire on ice. Tell them not to kill me.
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"Okej. Mala. Vatra na ledu. Recite im da me ne ubiju.
10:37
Tell them not to kill me. What have I done wrong?
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Recite im da me ne ubiju. Šta sam zgrešila?
10:38
Hundreds of thousands with thoughts, interdiction.'
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Stotine hiljada, sa mislima, zabranama."
10:41
'Elyn, do you feel like you're
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"Elin, da li osećaš
10:42
dangerous to yourself or others?
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da si opasna po sebe ili druge?
10:44
I think you need to be in the hospital.
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Mislim da moraš da budeš u bolnici.
10:46
I could get you admitted right away, and the whole thing
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Mogu odmah da te smestim i sve može biti
10:48
could be very discrete.'
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veoma diskretno."
10:49
'Ha, ha, ha.
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"Ha, ha, ha.
10:51
You're offering to put me in hospitals?
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Nudite da me stavite u bolnice?
10:53
Hospitals are bad, they're mad, they're sad.
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One su loše, lude, tužne.
10:56
One must stay away. I'm God, or I used to be.'"
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Mora se držati podalje. Ja sam bog, bila sam bog. ""
11:00
At that point in the text,
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U tom delu teksta,
11:02
where I said "I'm God, or I used to be," my husband
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kada kažem "Ja sam bog, bila sam bog", moj muž
11:04
made a marginal note.
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je napravio belešku na margini.
11:05
He said, "Did you quit or were you fired?"
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"Jesi dala otkaz ili su te otpustili?"
11:06
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:08
"'I give life and I take it away.
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"'Dajem život i oduzimam ga.
11:12
Forgive me, for I know not what I do.'
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Oprosti mi, jer ne znam šta činim.'
11:14
Eventually, I broke down in front of friends, and
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Na kraju sam se slomila pred prijateljima
11:17
everybody convinced me to take more medication.
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i svi su me ubedili da uzmem još lekova.
11:20
I could no longer deny the truth,
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Više nisam mogla da poričem istinu
11:22
and I could not change it.
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i nisam mogla da je promenim.
11:23
The wall that kept me, Elyn, Professor Saks,
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Zid koji je čuvao mene, profesorku Elin Saks,
11:26
separate from that insane woman hospitalized years past,
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odvojenu od te lude žene godinama hospitalizovane,
11:29
lay smashed and in ruins."
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ležao je u krhotinama."
11:31
Everything about this illness says I shouldn't be here,
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Sve u vezi sa ovom bolešću govori da ne bi trebalo da budem ovde,
11:34
but I am. And I am, I think, for three reasons:
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ali jesam. I to, misim, iz tri razloga:
11:37
First, I've had excellent treatment.
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Prvi, imam odličnu terapiju.
11:39
Four- to five-day-a-week psychoanalytic psychotherapy
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Četiri do pet puta nedeljno psihoanalitičku psihoterapiju
11:42
for decades and continuing, and excellent psychopharmacology.
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i odlične lekove, koji traju decenijama.
11:45
Second, I have many close family members and friends who know me
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Drugi, imam mnogo bliskih članova porodice i prijatelja koji poznaju
11:49
and know my illness.
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mene i moju bolest.
11:50
These relationships have given my life a meaning
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Te veze su životu dale smisao
11:52
and a depth, and they also helped me navigate
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i dubinu i pomogle mi da upravljam životom
11:55
my life in the face of symptoms.
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suočena sa simptomima.
11:57
Third, I work at an enormously supportive workplace
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Treće, moje radno mesto, Pravni fakultet Univerziteta Južne Kalifornije
12:00
at USC Law School.
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pruža izuzetnu podršku.
12:01
This is a place that not only accommodates my needs
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Tu ne samo da su moje potrebe ispunjene
12:04
but actually embraces them.
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nego su i prihvaćene.
12:06
It's also a very intellectually stimulating place,
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To je i veoma intelektualno stimulativno mesto,
12:09
and occupying my mind with complex problems
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koje okupira moj um složenim problemima
12:11
has been my best and most powerful and most reliable
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i koje je moja najbolja, najmoćnija i najpouzdanija
12:15
defense against my mental illness.
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odbrana od moje mentalne bolesti.
12:17
Even with all that — excellent treatment, wonderful family and
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Čak i pored svega toga - odlične terapije, divne porodice
12:20
friends, supportive work environment —
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i prijatelja, podrške na radnom mestu -
12:22
I did not make my illness public
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nisam javno govorila o bolesti
12:24
until relatively late in life,
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do relativno kasno u životu,
12:26
and that's because the stigma against mental illness
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zbog toga što je stigma prema mentalnim bolestima
12:28
is so powerful that I didn't feel safe with people knowing.
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toliko jaka, da se nisam osećala bezbedno da kažem ljudima.
12:31
If you hear nothing else today,
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Ako danas ništa drugo ne upamtite,
12:33
please hear this: There are not "schizophrenics."
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upamtite bar ovo: ne postoje "šizofreničari".
12:37
There are people with schizophrenia, and these people
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To su ljudi sa šizofrenijom,
12:40
may be your spouse, they may be your child,
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to je možda vaš suprug, dete,
12:42
they may be your neighbor, they may be your friend,
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možda vaš komšija, prijatelj,
12:44
they may be your coworker.
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saradnik sa posla.
12:46
So let me share some final thoughts.
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Podeliću još nekoliko misli.
12:48
We need to invest more resources into research and treatment
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Moramo da uložimo još sredstava u istraživanje
12:52
of mental illness.
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i lečenje mentalnih bolesti.
12:53
The better we understand these illnesses, the better
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Što ih bolje razumemo, obezbedićemo bolje terapije,
12:55
the treatments we can provide, and the better the treatments
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a ako obezbedimo bolje terapije,
12:57
we can provide, the more we can offer people care,
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možemo ponuditi ljudima više nege
13:00
and not have to use force.
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i da ne koristimo silu.
13:01
Also, we must stop criminalizing mental illness.
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Takođe moramo da prestanemo da kriminalizujemo mentalne bolesti.
13:04
It's a national tragedy and scandal that the L.A. County Jail
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Nacionalna je tragedija i skandal da je Okružni zatvor u Los Anđelesu
13:08
is the biggest psychiatric facility in the United States.
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najveća psihijatrijska ustanova u Sjedinjenim Državama.
13:11
American prisons and jails are filled with people who suffer
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Američki zatvori prepuni su ljudi koji pate od teških mentalnih bolesti
13:15
from severe mental illness, and many of them are there
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i mnogi od njih su tamo
13:17
because they never received adequate treatment.
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jer nikada nisu imali adekvatnu terapiju.
13:19
I could have easily ended up there or on the streets myself.
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I ja sam mogla da završim tamo ili na ulici.
13:23
A message to the entertainment industry and to the press:
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Poruka industriji zabave i novinarima:
13:26
On the whole, you've done a wonderful job fighting stigma
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ukupno gledano, odlično se borite protiv stigme
13:30
and prejudice of many kinds.
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i mnogih predrasuda.
13:32
Please, continue to let us see characters in your movies,
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Molim vas, nastavite da prikazujete likove u filmovima,
13:35
your plays, your columns,
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dramama, kolumnama,
13:37
who suffer with severe mental illness.
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koji pate od teških mentalih bolesti.
13:39
Portray them sympathetically,
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Prikažite ih sa saosećanjem,
13:41
and portray them in all the richness and depth
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u svoj dubini i bogatstvu
13:43
of their experience as people and not as diagnoses.
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njihovog iskustva kao ljudi, ne kao dijagnoza.
13:47
Recently, a friend posed a question:
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Nedavno me je jedan prijatelj upitao
13:49
If there were a pill I could take
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da li bih uzela tabletu
13:51
that would instantly cure me, would I take it?
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koja bi me odmah izlečila, da ona postoji.
13:53
The poet Rainer Maria Rilke
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Pesniku Rajneru Mariji Rilke
13:55
was offered psychoanalysis.
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ponuđena je psihoanaliza.
13:57
He declined, saying, "Don't take my devils away,
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Odbio je, rečima: "Ne oduzimajte mi demone,
13:59
because my angels may flee too."
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jer će možda i moji anđeli pobeći sa njima."
14:01
My psychosis, on the other hand,
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S druge strane, moja psihoza je hodajuća noćna mora
14:03
is a waking nightmare in which my devils are so terrifying
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u kojoj su moji demoni toliko užasni
14:06
that all my angels have already fled.
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da su svi moji anđeli već pobegli.
14:08
So would I take the pill? In an instant.
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Onda, da li bih uzela tabletu? Istog trenutka.
14:12
That said, I don't wish to be seen as regretting
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Rekavši to, ne želim da ostavim utisak da žalim
14:14
the life I could have had if I'd not been mentally ill,
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za životom koji sam mogla imati da nisam mentalno bolesna,
14:17
nor am I asking anyone for their pity.
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niti tražim bilo čije sažaljenje.
14:19
What I rather wish to say is that the humanity we all share
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Radije želim da kažem da je čovečanstvo koje delimo
14:22
is more important than the mental illness we may not.
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važnije od mentalne bolesti koju možda ne delimo.
14:25
What those of us who suffer with mental illness want
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Mi koji patimo od mentalne bolesti
14:27
is what everybody wants:
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želimo ono što i svi:
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in the words of Sigmund Freud, "to work and to love."
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rečima Sigmunda Frojda, "da radimo i volimo".
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Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala vam. (Aplauz)
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Thank you. Thank you. You're very kind. (Applause)
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Hvala vam. Hvala. Vrlo ste ljubazni. (Aplauz)
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Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala. (Aplauz)
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