Zainab Salbi: Women, wartime and the dream of peace

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Prevodilac: Sandra Gojic Lektor: Ana Zivanovic-Nenadovic
00:16
I woke up in the middle of the night
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Probudila sam se usred noći
00:18
with the sound of heavy explosion.
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usled zvuka teške eksplozije.
00:21
It was deep at night.
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Bila je duboka noć.
00:23
I do not remember what time it was.
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Ne sećam se koliko je bilo sati.
00:25
I just remember the sound
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Sećam se samo da je zvuk
00:27
was so heavy
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bio toliko jak
00:29
and so very shocking.
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da me je šokirao.
00:32
Everything in my room was shaking --
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Sve u mojoj sobi se treslo -
00:35
my heart, my windows,
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moje srce, prozori,
00:38
my bed, everything.
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krevet - sve.
00:42
I looked out the windows
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Pogledala sam kroz prozor,
00:45
and I saw a full half-circle
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i videla pun polukrug
00:48
of explosion.
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eksplozije.
00:50
I thought it was just like the movies,
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Pomislila sam kako je baš kao u filmovima,
00:52
but the movies had not conveyed them
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ali filmovi nisu preneli
00:54
in the powerful image that I was seeing
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moćnu sliku koju sam gledala -
00:57
full of bright red
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punu jasne crvene,
00:59
and orange and gray,
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narandžaste i sive,
01:01
and a full circle of explosion.
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pun krug eksplozije.
01:03
And I kept on staring at it
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Buljila sam u nju
01:06
until it disappeared.
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sve dok nije nestala.
01:09
I went back to my bed,
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Vratila sam se u krevet,
01:12
and I prayed,
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molila se,
01:14
and I secretly thanked God
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i tajno zahvalila Bogu
01:17
that that missile
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što raketa
01:19
did not land on my family's home,
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nije pala na moju porodičnu kuću,
01:23
that it did not kill my family that night.
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što nije pobila moju porodicu te noći.
01:28
Thirty years have passed,
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30 godina je prošlo,
01:30
and I still feel guilty about that prayer,
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i još uvek osećam krivicu zbog te molitve,
01:34
for the next day, I learned that that missile
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jer sam sledećeg dana saznala da
01:36
landed on my brother's friend's home
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je pogodila kuću prijatelja moga brata,
01:40
and killed him
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ubila ga,
01:43
and his father,
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i njegovog oca,
01:45
but did not kill his mother or his sister.
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ali ne i majku i sestru.
01:51
His mother showed up the next week
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Njegova majka se pojavila sledeće nedelje
01:53
at my brother's classroom
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u učionici mog brata
01:55
and begged seven-year-old kids
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i molila sedmogodišnju decu
01:58
to share with her any picture they may have
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da podele sa njom sliku njenog sina,
02:01
of her son,
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ako je imaju,
02:03
for she had lost everything.
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jer je izgubila sve.
02:09
This is not a story
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Ovo nije priča
02:11
of a nameless survivor of war,
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brojnih preživelih,
02:15
and nameless refugees,
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i brojnih izbeglica,
02:17
whose stereotypical images we see in our newspapers
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čije stereotipne fotografije gledamo u novinama
02:20
and our TV
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i na TVu
02:23
with tattered clothes,
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sa dronjavom odećom,
02:25
dirty face, scared eyes.
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prljavim licima, uplašenim očima.
02:29
This is not a story of a nameless someone
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Ovo nije priča nekog bezimenog
02:32
who lived in some war,
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koji je živeo u nekom ratu,
02:34
who we do not know their hopes, their dreams,
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čije nade, snove, uspehe,
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their accomplishments, their families,
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porodice, uverenja, vrednosti
02:39
their beliefs, their values.
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ne poznajemo.
02:41
This is my story.
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Ovo je moja priča.
02:45
I was that girl.
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Ja sam bila ta devojčica.
02:49
I am another image and vision
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Ja sam još jedna slika i prilika
02:52
of another survivor of war.
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onog ko je preživeo rat.
02:55
I am that refugee,
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Ja sam ta izbeglica,
02:57
and I am that girl.
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ja sam ta devojčica.
03:00
You see,
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Znate,
03:02
I grew up in war-torn Iraq,
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odrasla sam u ratom razorenom Iraku,
03:06
and I believe that there are two sides of wars
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i verujem da postoje dve strane ratova
03:09
and we've only seen
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a da vidimo samo
03:11
one side of it.
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jednu.
03:13
We only talk about
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Govorimo samo
03:15
one side of it.
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o jednoj strani.
03:17
But there's another side
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Ali postoji još jedna
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that I have witnessed
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čiji sam svedok,
03:21
as someone who lived in it
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jer sam u njoj živela
03:23
and someone who ended up working in it.
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jer sam u njoj na kraju i radila.
03:26
I grew up with the colors of war --
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Odrasla sam sa bojama rata -
03:29
the red colors of fire and blood,
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crvena boja vatre i krvi,
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the brown tones of earth
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smeđi tonovi zemlje
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as it explodes
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koja eksplodira
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in our faces
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u naša lica
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and the piercing silver
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i prodorna srebrna
03:41
of an exploded missile,
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eksplodiranih raketa,
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so bright
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toliko jarkih
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that nothing can protect your eyes from it.
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da ničim niste mogli zaštiti oči.
03:49
I grew up
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Odrasla sam
03:51
with the sounds of war --
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uz zvuke rata -
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the staccato sounds of gunfire,
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nepovezani pucnjevi iz oružja,
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the wrenching booms of explosions,
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bolni zvukovi eksplozija,
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ominous drones of jets flying overhead
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zloslutno zujanje aviona koji lete iznad glava
04:02
and the wailing warning sounds
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i zavijajući zvuci sirena
04:04
of sirens.
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za uzbunu.
04:07
These are the sounds you would expect,
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To su zvukovi koje očekujete,
04:10
but they are also the sounds
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ali su tu takođe piskavi
04:12
of dissonant concerts of a flock of birds
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zvuci neharmoničnih, noćnih koncerata
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screeching in the night,
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jata ptica,
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the high-pitched honest cries
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piskav, iskren plač
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of children
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dece
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and the thunderous,
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i gromoglasna,
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unbearable
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nepodnošljiva
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silence.
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tišina.
04:28
"War," a friend of mine said,
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"Rat", rekao je moj prijatelj,
04:30
"is not about sound at all.
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"uopšte nema veze sa zvukom.
04:33
It is actually about silence,
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Radi se o tišini,
04:36
the silence of humanity."
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ljudskoj tišini."
04:41
I have since left Iraq
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Kad sam napustila Irak
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and founded a group called Women for Women International
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osnovala sam grupu "Women for Women International"
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that ends up working
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koja radi sa ženama
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with women survivors of wars.
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koje su preživele rat.
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In my travels and in my work,
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Tokom mojih putovanja i rada
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from Congo to Afghanistan,
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u Kongu i Avganistanu,
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from Sudan to Rwanda,
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Sudanu i Ruandi,
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I have learned not only
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shvatila sam, da
05:01
that the colors and the sounds of war are the same,
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nisu samo boje i zvukovi rata isti,
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but the fears of war are the same.
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već je i strah isti.
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You know, there is a fear of dying,
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Znate, postoji strah od umiranja,
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and do not believe any movie character
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i ne verujte nijednoj filmskoj ulozi
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where the hero is not afraid.
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u kojoj se heroj ne plaši.
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It is very scary
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Vrlo je strašno
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to go through that feeling
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proći kroz osećanje,
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of "I am about to die"
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"Umreću"
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or "I could die in this explosion."
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ili "Mogu umreti u ovoj eksploziji".
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But there's also the fear
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Ali tu je i strah
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of losing loved ones,
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od gubitka voljenih,
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and I think that's even worse.
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i misliim da je to čak i strašnije.
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It's too painful. You don't want to think about it.
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Previše je bolno; ne želite da mislite na to.
05:33
But I think the worst kind of fear is the fear --
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Ali mislim da je najgori -
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as Samia, a Bosnian woman, once told me,
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kao što je Samia, žena iz Bosne, jednom rekla,
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who survived the four-years besiege of Sarajevo;
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ona je preživela četvorogodišnju opsadu Sarajeva.
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she said, "The fear
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Rekla je:" Strah
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of losing
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od gubitka
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the 'I' in me,
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svog JA,
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the fear of losing
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strah od gubitka
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the 'I' in me."
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svog JA."
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That's what my mother in Iraq
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To mi je govorila majka
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used to tell me.
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u Iraku.
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It's like dying from inside-out.
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Kao da umirete iznutra.
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A Palestinian woman once told me,
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Palestinska žena mi je jednom rekla:
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"It is not about the fear of one death,"
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"Ne radi se o jednom strahu od smrti,
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she said, "sometimes I feel
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ponekad osećam da
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I die 10 times in one day,"
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sam umrla 10 puta u toku jednog dana",
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as she was describing the marches of soldiers
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i opisivala je marševe vojnika
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and the sounds of their bullets.
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i zvuke njihovih metaka.
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She said, "But it's not fair,
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I rekla je:" Nije fer,
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because there is only one life,
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jer postoji samo jedan život,
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and there should only be one death."
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i treba da bude samo jedna smrt.".
06:27
We have been only seeing
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Viđali smo samo
06:30
one side of war.
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jednu stranu rata.
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We have only been discussing and consumed
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Razgovarali smo o i bili okupirani
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with high-level preoccupations
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važnim zadacima vojnih trupa,
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over troop levels, drawdown timelines,
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zadacima ograničenim vremenom,
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surges and sting operations,
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iznenadnim i obmanljivim operacijama,
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when we should be examining the details
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kada bi trebalo da ispitamo detalje
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of where the social fabric
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o tome gde je socijalno tkivo
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has been most torn,
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najviše razrušeno,
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where the community has improvised
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gde je zajednica improvizovala
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and survived
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i preživela
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and shown acts of resilience
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i pokazala čin otpora
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and amazing courage
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i neverovatnu hrabrost
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just to keep life going.
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radi održanja života.
07:03
We have been so consumed
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Toliko smo zatrpani sa,
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with seemingly objective discussions
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naizgled objektivnim razgovorima
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of politics, tactics,
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o politici, taktici,
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weapons, dollars
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oružju, novcu
07:12
and casualties.
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i žrtvama.
07:14
This is the language
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Ovo je jezik
07:16
of sterility.
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izolovanosti.
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How casually
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Kako se odnosimo
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we treat casualties
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prema žrtvama
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in the context of this topic.
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u kontekstu ove teme.
07:25
This is where we conceive of rape and casualties
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Ovo je mesto gde silovanje i žrtve zamišljamo
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as inevitabilities.
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kao neizbežnost.
07:31
Eighty percent of refugees around the world
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80 odsto izbeglica širom sveta
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are women and children. Oh.
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čine žene i deca. Oh.
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Ninety percent of modern war casualties
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90 odsto žrtava modernog rata
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are civilians.
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jesu civili -
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Seventy-five percent of them are women and children.
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75 odsto od toga su žene i deca.
07:44
How interesting.
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Vrlo zanimljivo.
07:47
Oh, half a million women in Rwanda
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O, pola miliona žena u Ruandi
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get raped in 100 days.
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su silovane za 100 dana.
07:51
Or, as we speak now,
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Ili, u ovom trenutku,
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hundreds of thousands of Congolese women
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stotine hiljada žena iz Konga
07:57
are getting raped and mutilated.
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biva silovano ili osakaćeno.
07:59
How interesting.
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Vrlo zanimljivo.
08:01
These just become numbers that we refer to.
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I one postaju samo brojke na koje ukazujemo.
08:05
The front of wars
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Ratne linije
08:07
is increasingly non-human eyes
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su neljudske oči
08:10
peering down on our perceived enemies
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koje posmatraju iz svemira
08:12
from space,
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one koje smatramo neprijateljima,
08:14
guiding missiles toward unseen targets,
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vodeći rakete ka nevidljivim metama,
08:17
while the human conduct
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dok čovek upravlja
08:19
of the orchestra of media relations
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orkestrom svih medija
08:21
in the event that this particular drone attack
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u slučaju kada raketa pogodi
08:24
hits a villager
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seljaka
08:26
instead of an extremist.
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umesto ekstremistu.
08:28
It is a chess game.
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To je šahovska igra.
08:30
You learn to play an international relations school
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Učite da igrate međunarodno u školi međunarodnih odnosa
08:33
on your way out and up
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na vašem putu dostizanja
08:35
to national and international leadership.
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nacionalnog i internacionalnog vođstva.
08:38
Checkmate.
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Šah - mat.
08:41
We are missing
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Nedostaju nam
08:43
a completely other side of wars.
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potpuno drugčije strane ratova.
08:47
We are missing my mother's story,
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Nedostaje nam priča moje majke,
08:50
who made sure with every siren, with every raid,
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koja se pobrinula da sa svakom sirenom, iznenadnim napadom,
08:53
with every cut off-of electricity,
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svakom restrikcijom struje,
08:55
she played puppet shows for my brothers and I,
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odigra lutkarsku predstavu za moju braću i mene,
08:57
so we would not be scared
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kako se ne bismo uplašili
08:59
of the sounds of explosions.
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zvuka eksplozija.
09:01
We are missing the story of Fareeda,
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Nedostaje nam priča Faride,
09:04
a music teacher,
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profesorke muzičkog,
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a piano teacher, in Sarajevo,
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učiteljice klavira iz Sarajeva,
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who made sure
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koja se pobrinula
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that she kept the music school open
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da muzička škola bude otvorena
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every single day
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svakoga dana
09:14
in the four years of besiege in Sarajevo
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tokom okupacije Sarajeva.
09:17
and walked to that school,
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Išla je peške do škole,
09:19
despite the snipers shooting
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uprkos snajperskim pucnjevima
09:21
at that school and at her,
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na tu školu i na nju,
09:23
and kept the piano, the violin, the cello
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i nastavila da svira klavir, violinu,
09:26
playing the whole duration of the war,
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violončelo tokom čitavog rata,
09:29
with students wearing their gloves and hats and coats.
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sa studentima obučenim u rukavice, kape i kapute.
09:32
That was her fight.
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To je bila njena borba.
09:34
That was her resistance.
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To je bio njen otpor.
09:37
We are missing the story of Nehia,
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Nedostaje nam priča Nehie,
09:40
a Palestinian woman in Gaza
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palestinske žene iz Gaze,
09:42
who, the minute there was a cease-fire in the last year's war,
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koja je, u momentu kada je došlo do prekida vatre prošle godine,
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she left out of home,
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napustila kuću,
09:47
collected all the flour
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sakupila svo brašno
09:49
and baked as much bread for every neighbor to have,
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i ispekla što više hleba za sve komšije,
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in case there is no cease-fire the day after.
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za slučaj da sutra prekida vatre ne bude.
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We are missing
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Nedostaju nam
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the stories of Violet,
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Violetine priče
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who, despite surviving genocide in the church massacre,
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koja je uprkos preživljavanju genocida u crkvenom masakru
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she kept on going on,
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nastavila,
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burying bodies, cleaning homes, cleaning the streets.
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zakopavala leševe, čistila kuće, ulice.
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We are missing stories of women
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Nedostaju nam priče žena
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who are literally keeping life going
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koje jednostavno vode svoje živote
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in the midst of wars.
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u sred rata.
10:16
Do you know --
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Da li znate -
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do you know that people fall in love in war
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da li znate da se ljudi zaljubljuju tokom rata
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and go to school
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i idu u školu
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and go to factories and hospitals
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u fabrike i bolnice
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and get divorced and go dancing and go playing
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i da se razvode i da idu na ples, igraju
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and live life going?
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i žive život?
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And the ones who are keeping that life
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A one koje održavaju taj život
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are women.
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su žene.
10:37
There are two sides of war.
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Postoje dve strane rata.
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There is a side that fights,
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Strana koja se bori,
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and there is a side that keeps the schools
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i strana koja osigurava da škole,
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and the factories and the hospitals open.
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fabrike i bolnice budu otvorene.
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There is a side that is focused on winning battles,
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Postoji strana koja je usmerena na dobijanje bitaka,
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and there is a side that is focused
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i strana koja je fokusirana na
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on winning life.
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pobedu života
10:56
There is a side that leads the front-line discussion,
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Tu je strana koja vodi razgovore na prvoj liniji,
10:59
and there is a side
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i strana koja
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that leads the back-line discussion.
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obavlja diskusiju u pozadini.
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There is a side that thinks
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Strana koja misli
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that peace is the end of fighting,
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da je mir kraj borbama,
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and there is a side that thinks
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i strana koja misli
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that peace is the arrival
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da mir donosi
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of schools and jobs.
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škole i poslove.
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There is a side
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Strana
11:19
that is led by men,
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koju vode muškarci,
11:21
and there is a side
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strana
11:23
that is led by women.
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koju vode žene.
11:25
And in order for us to understand
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I da bismo razumeli
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how do we build lasting peace,
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kako da sagradimo trajni mir,
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we must understand war and peace
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moramo razumeti rat i mir
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from both sides.
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sa obe strane.
11:36
We must have a full picture
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Moramo imati čitavu sliku
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of what that means.
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toga šta to znači.
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In order for us to understand
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Da bismo razumeli
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what actually peace means,
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šta mir (zapravo) znači,
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we need to understand,
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moramo razumeti,
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as one Sudanese woman once told me,
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kao što je žena iz Sudana jednom rekla:
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"Peace is the fact that my toenails
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"MIr je činjenica da nokti na mojim
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are growing back again."
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nogama ponov rastu."
11:54
She grew up in Sudan, in Southern Sudan,
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Ona je rasla u Sudanu, južnom Sudanu,
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for 20 years of war,
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tokom 20 godina rata,
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where it killed one million people
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gde je pobijeno milion ljudi
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and displaced five million refugees.
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i izmešteno pet miliona izbeglica.
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Many women were taken as slaves
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Mnoge žene su načinjene robovima
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by rebels and soldiers,
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od strane pobunjenika i vojnika,
12:08
as sexual slaves who were forced also
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kao seksualni robovi koji su prisiljeni
12:11
to carry the ammunition and the water
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da nose municiju, vodu
12:13
and the food for the soldiers.
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i hranu za vojnike.
12:15
So that woman walked for 20 years,
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Ta žena je hodala 20 godina,
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so she would not be kidnapped again.
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kako ne bi ponovo bila oteta.
12:21
And only when there was some sort of peace,
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I samo onda kada je postojala neka vrsta mira,
12:24
her toenails grew back again.
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njeni nokti na nogama su ponovo rasli.
12:28
We need to understand peace
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Moramo da razumemo mir
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from a toenail's perspective.
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iz perspektive nokta na nogama.
12:34
We need to understand
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Moramo razumeti
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that we cannot actually have negotiations
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da zapravo ne možemo imati pregovore
12:38
of ending of wars or peace
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o završetku rata
12:40
without fully including women
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bez potpune uključenosti žena
12:43
at the negotiating table.
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u proces pregovora.
12:45
I find it amazing
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Zapanjuje me
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that the only group of people
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da jedina grupa ljudi
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who are not fighting and not killing
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koja se ne bori i ne ubija
12:51
and not pillaging and not burning and not raping,
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ne pljačka, ne pali i ne siluje,
12:54
and the group of people who are mostly --
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i grupa ljudi koja uglavnom -
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though not exclusively --
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mada ne isključivo -
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who are keeping life going in the midst of war,
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održava život u sred rata,
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are not included in the negotiating table.
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nije uključena u proces pregovora.
13:06
And I do argue that women lead the back-line discussion,
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Tvrdim da žene upravljaju razgovorima u pozadni,
13:09
but there are also men
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ali postoje i muškarci
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who are excluded from that discussion.
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koji su iz toga isključeni.
13:13
The doctors who are not fighting,
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Doktori koji se ne bore,
13:15
the artists, the students, the men who refuse to pick up the guns,
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umetnici, studenti, oni koji odbijaju da uzmu oružje u ruku,
13:18
they are, too, excluded
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i oni su isključeni
13:20
from the negotiating tables.
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iz procesa pregovora.
13:23
There is no way we can talk about a lasting peace,
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Ne možemo razgovarati o održivom miru,
13:26
building of democracy, sustainable economies,
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izgradnji demokratije, održive ekonomije,
13:29
any kind of stabilities,
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bilo koje stabilnosti,
13:31
if we do not fully include women
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ako u potpunosti ne uključimo žene
13:34
at the negotiating table.
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u pregovore.
13:36
Not one, but 50 percent.
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Ne jedan, nego 50 odsto.
13:40
There is no way we can talk about the building of stability
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Ne možemo govoriti o izgradnji stabilnosti
13:43
if we don't start investing
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ako ne počnemo da ulažemo
13:46
in women and girls.
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u žene i devojčice.
13:48
Did you know
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Da li ste znali
13:50
that one year
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da jednogodišnja
13:52
of the world's military spending
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vojna potrošnja
13:54
equals 700 years
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odgovara UN budžetu
13:57
of the U.N. budget
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za 700 godina,
14:00
and equals 2,928 years
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i jednak je UN budžetu
14:03
of the U.N. budget allocated for women?
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namenjenom ženama za 2928 godina?
14:07
If we just reverse
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Ako preokrenemo
14:09
that distribution of funds,
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distribuciju sredstava,
14:11
perhaps we could have
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možda bismo mogli imati
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a better lasting peace in this world.
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bolji održivi mir u svetu.
14:17
And last, but not least,
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I na kraju, ali ne i manje važno,
14:19
we need to invest in peace and women,
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moramo da ulažemo u mir i žene,
14:22
not only because it is the right thing to do,
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ne samo zato što je to ispravno,
14:25
not only because it is the right thing to do,
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ne zbog toga što je za nas dobro
14:28
for all of us to build sustainable and lasting peace today,
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da izgradimo održivi i trajni mir za sve nas,
14:31
but it is for the future.
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već i za budućnost.
14:34
A Congolese woman,
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Žena iz Konga,
14:36
who was telling me about
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koja mi je ispričala
14:38
how her children saw their father killed in front of them
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kako su njena deca videla kako njihov otac gine
14:41
and saw her raped in front of them
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i kako nju siluju
14:44
and mutilated in front of them,
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i sakate je,
14:46
and her children saw their nine-year-old sibling
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videla su i kako je njihov devetogodišnji brat
14:48
killed in front of them,
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ubijen pred njihovim očima,
14:51
how they're doing okay right now.
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i sada su dobro.
14:54
She got into Women for Women International's program.
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Uključila se u program " Women for Women International".
14:56
She got a support network.
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Dobila je mrežu podrške.
14:58
She learned about her rights.
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Naučila je svoja prava.
15:00
We taught her vocational and business skills. We helped her get a job.
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Naučila je stručne i poslovne veštine. Pomogli smo joj da nađe posao.
15:03
She was earning 450 dollars. She was doing okay.
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Zarađivala je 450 dolara. Bila je dobro.
15:06
She was sending them to school. Have a new home.
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Deca su išla u školu - imaju novi dom.
15:08
She said, "But what I worry about the most
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Rekla je: " Ono što me najviše brine
15:11
is not any of that.
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nisu te stvari.
15:13
I worry that my children
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Brine me da moja deca
15:15
have hate in their hearts,
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imaju mržnju u svojim srcima,
15:18
and when they want to grow up, they want to fight again
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i da će kad odrastu, želeti ponovo da se bore
15:21
the killers of their father and their brother."
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sa ubicama nihovog oca i brata."
15:25
We need to invest in women,
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Moramo ulagati u žene,
15:28
because that's our only chance
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jer su one naša jedina šansa
15:31
to ensure that there is no more war
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da osiguramo da u budućnosti više
15:33
in the future.
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ne bude rata.
15:35
That mother has a better chance to heal her children
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Ova majka ima bolje šanse da oporavi svoju decu,
15:38
than any peace agreement can do.
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nego bilo koji dogovor o primirju.
15:42
Are there good news? Of course, there are good news. There are lots of good news.
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Ima li dobrih vesti? Naravno da ima. Ima ih mnogo.
15:45
To start with, these women that I told you about
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Da počnemo, ove žene o kojima sam vam pričala
15:48
are dancing and singing every single day,
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igraju i pevaju svakog dana,
15:51
and if they can,
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i ako mogu,
15:53
who are we not to dance?
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ko smo mi da to zabranimo.
15:55
That girl that I told you about
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Devojka o kojoj sam vam pričala
15:57
ended up starting Women for Women International Group
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je osnovala grupu "Women for Women International"
16:00
that impacted one million people, sent 80 million dollars,
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koja je uticala na milion ljudi, poslala 80 miliona dolara,
16:03
and I started this from zero,
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a počela sam od nule,
16:05
nothing, nada, [unclear].
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ništa, nada ( nejasno).
16:08
(Laughter)
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( smeh )
16:11
They are women who are standing on their feet
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To su žene koje stoje na svojim nogama
16:14
in spite of their circumstances,
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uprkos svojim okolnostima,
16:17
not because of it.
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a ne zbog njih.
16:20
Think of how the world can be a much better place
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Pomislite kako bi svet bilo bolje mesto
16:23
if, for a change,
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ako bi, za promenu,
16:25
we have a better equality,
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imali veću ravnopravnost,
16:27
we have equality,
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da je imamo,
16:29
we have a representation
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da imamo predstavnicu žena
16:31
and we understand war,
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i razumemo rat,
16:33
both from the front-line
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sa obe strane, ratne
16:35
and the back-line discussion.
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i svakodnevne.
16:37
Rumi, a 13th-century Sufi poet,
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Rumi, Sufi pesnik iz 13. veka,
16:40
says, "Out beyond the worlds
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kaže:" Izvan svetova
16:42
of right-doings and wrong-doings,
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ispravnih i pogrešnih dela,
16:45
there is a field.
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postoji polje.
16:47
I will meet you there.
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Srešćemo se tamo.
16:49
When the soul lies down in that grass,
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Kada duša leži u toj travi,
16:52
the world is too full
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svet je prepun
16:54
to talk about.
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razgovora.
16:56
Ideas, language,
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Ideje, jezik,
16:58
even the phrase 'each other'
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čak i izraz "jedno za drugo"
17:00
no longer makes any sense."
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više nema smisla.".
17:04
I humbly add -- humbly add --
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Skromno dodajem - ponizno -
17:07
that out beyond
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da izvan
17:09
the worlds of war and peace,
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svetova rata i mira,
17:12
there is a field,
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postoji polje,
17:14
and there are many women and men
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gde postoji mnogo žena i muškaraca
17:17
[who] are meeting there.
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koji se tu sreću.
17:20
Let us make this field a much bigger place.
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Hajde da to polje načinimo većim.
17:23
Let us all meet in that field.
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Hajde da se svi tu sretnemo.
17:26
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
17:28
(Applause)
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( aplauz )
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