Zainab Salbi: Women, wartime and the dream of peace

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譯者: Serena Chang 審譯者: Adrienne Lin
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I woke up in the middle of the night
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半夜傳來巨大的爆炸聲響
00:18
with the sound of heavy explosion.
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把我從睡夢中吵醒
00:21
It was deep at night.
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那時已經很晚了
00:23
I do not remember what time it was.
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我不記得確切的時間
00:25
I just remember the sound
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我只記得那聲音
00:27
was so heavy
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是如此的響亮
00:29
and so very shocking.
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如此的嚇人
00:32
Everything in my room was shaking --
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我房間的東西都在晃動
00:35
my heart, my windows,
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我的心, 我的窗戶
00:38
my bed, everything.
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我的床 -- 每件東西
00:42
I looked out the windows
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我望向窗外
00:45
and I saw a full half-circle
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我看到一個完整的
00:48
of explosion.
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半圓形的爆炸
00:50
I thought it was just like the movies,
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我以為那只是電影,
00:52
but the movies had not conveyed them
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但電影不足以表達出
00:54
in the powerful image that I was seeing
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我所看到的這個強大的影像--
00:57
full of bright red
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那鮮艷的紅色
00:59
and orange and gray,
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橙色和灰色
01:01
and a full circle of explosion.
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和完整的爆炸情景
01:03
And I kept on staring at it
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我目不轉睛的看著
01:06
until it disappeared.
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直到他消失在我的眼前
01:09
I went back to my bed,
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我回到床上
01:12
and I prayed,
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然後禱告
01:14
and I secretly thanked God
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而我偷偷的感謝上帝
01:17
that that missile
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那枚導彈
01:19
did not land on my family's home,
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沒有墜落在我家
01:23
that it did not kill my family that night.
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那天晚上我的家人沒有因此而死去
01:28
Thirty years have passed,
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三十年過去了
01:30
and I still feel guilty about that prayer,
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我仍然對那次的禱告感到罪惡
01:34
for the next day, I learned that that missile
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隔天我才知道, 那枚導彈
01:36
landed on my brother's friend's home
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墜落在我哥哥的朋友家
01:40
and killed him
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殺害了他
01:43
and his father,
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和他的爸爸
01:45
but did not kill his mother or his sister.
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但沒有殺死他媽媽或姊妹
01:51
His mother showed up the next week
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一個禮拜後,
01:53
at my brother's classroom
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他媽媽去我哥哥的教室
01:55
and begged seven-year-old kids
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拜託那些七歲大的孩子
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to share with her any picture they may have
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跟她分享他們擁有的
02:01
of her son,
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任何一張她兒子的照片
02:03
for she had lost everything.
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因為她失去了一切
02:09
This is not a story
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這不只是個
02:11
of a nameless survivor of war,
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默默無名戰後倖存者的故事
02:15
and nameless refugees,
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或是我們在報紙上看到的
02:17
whose stereotypical images we see in our newspapers
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那些默默無名 一成不變的難民照片
02:20
and our TV
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或是在電視上看到
02:23
with tattered clothes,
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衣衫襤褸的難民
02:25
dirty face, scared eyes.
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他們汙穢的臉和害怕的眼神
02:29
This is not a story of a nameless someone
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這不只是個生活在某個戰爭
02:32
who lived in some war,
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某個無姓名的人的故事
02:34
who we do not know their hopes, their dreams,
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我們不清楚他們的希望, 他們的夢想
02:36
their accomplishments, their families,
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他們的成就, 他們的家人
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their beliefs, their values.
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他們的信仰 他們的價值觀
02:41
This is my story.
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這是我的故事
02:45
I was that girl.
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我就是那個女孩
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I am another image and vision
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我是那另一個影像和角度
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of another survivor of war.
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的另一個戰後倖存者
02:55
I am that refugee,
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我就是那個難民
02:57
and I am that girl.
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而我就是那個女孩
03:00
You see,
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事實上,
03:02
I grew up in war-torn Iraq,
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我在飽受戰爭蹂躪的伊拉克長大
03:06
and I believe that there are two sides of wars
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我相信戰爭是兩面性的
03:09
and we've only seen
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而我們只看到
03:11
one side of it.
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其中的一面而已
03:13
We only talk about
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我們只討論
03:15
one side of it.
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其中的一面
03:17
But there's another side
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但我親眼看到
03:19
that I have witnessed
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有人在戰爭的另一面裡
03:21
as someone who lived in it
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生活著
03:23
and someone who ended up working in it.
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工作著
03:26
I grew up with the colors of war --
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我在戰爭的色彩中成長
03:29
the red colors of fire and blood,
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砲火和血液的紅色
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the brown tones of earth
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大地在爆炸時的
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as it explodes
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棕色色彩
03:37
in our faces
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映在我們的臉上
03:39
and the piercing silver
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而爆炸的導彈
03:41
of an exploded missile,
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所散發出刺眼的銀色
03:43
so bright
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如此的閃亮
03:45
that nothing can protect your eyes from it.
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沒有任何東西能保護你的眼睛不去看到
03:49
I grew up
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我在戰爭的聲響中
03:51
with the sounds of war --
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長大
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the staccato sounds of gunfire,
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斷斷續續的槍擊聲
03:56
the wrenching booms of explosions,
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猛烈的隆隆砲彈聲
03:59
ominous drones of jets flying overhead
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噴射機的嗡嗡聲在上空飛來飛去
04:02
and the wailing warning sounds
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和氣笛所發出的
04:04
of sirens.
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尖嘯警告聲
04:07
These are the sounds you would expect,
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這些都是你預料得到的聲響
04:10
but they are also the sounds
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但也有些聲音是
04:12
of dissonant concerts of a flock of birds
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一群鳥在夜空中
04:15
screeching in the night,
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不一致的尖叫著
04:17
the high-pitched honest cries
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孩子們誠實的
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of children
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高八度哭著
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and the thunderous,
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和強而有力
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unbearable
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卻令人無法忍受的
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silence.
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安靜
04:28
"War," a friend of mine said,
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“戰爭,“ 我的一位友人說,
04:30
"is not about sound at all.
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“和聲音沒有太大關係."
04:33
It is actually about silence,
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事實上, 戰爭是關於靜默
04:36
the silence of humanity."
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人類對戰爭所表現出的靜默
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I have since left Iraq
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我離開伊拉克以後
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and founded a group called Women for Women International
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成立了 Women for Women International 組織
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that ends up working
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開始幫助
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with women survivors of wars.
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戰爭後的女性倖存者
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In my travels and in my work,
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在我的旅程和工作中
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from Congo to Afghanistan,
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從剛果到阿富汗
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from Sudan to Rwanda,
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從蘇丹到盧安達
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I have learned not only
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我不只看到
05:01
that the colors and the sounds of war are the same,
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戰爭的色彩和聲音相同
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but the fears of war are the same.
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但對於戰爭的恐懼都是相同的
05:08
You know, there is a fear of dying,
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你知道, 那些對於死亡的恐懼
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and do not believe any movie character
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不要相信任何電影演員表現出來的什麼
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where the hero is not afraid.
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英雄絕不會害怕死亡
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It is very scary
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經歷那種
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to go through that feeling
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“我快要死去“
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of "I am about to die"
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或“我也許會在這場爆炸中死去“的感覺
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or "I could die in this explosion."
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是一件令人害怕的事情
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But there's also the fear
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但我想
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of losing loved ones,
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害怕失去摯愛的恐懼
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and I think that's even worse.
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恐怕更糟
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It's too painful. You don't want to think about it.
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痛到你甚至不願去想起
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But I think the worst kind of fear is the fear --
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可是 我想最恐怖的恐懼恐怕是
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as Samia, a Bosnian woman, once told me,
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像Samia, 一位在塞拉耶佛四年的圍攻中生存下來的玻茲尼亞女人
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who survived the four-years besiege of Sarajevo;
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和我敘說的那種恐懼
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she said, "The fear
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她說:“那種失去
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of losing
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自我的
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the 'I' in me,
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恐懼,
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the fear of losing
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失去自我的
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the 'I' in me."
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恐懼。"
05:54
That's what my mother in Iraq
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那是我在伊拉克的媽媽
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used to tell me.
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以前常告訴我的話
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It's like dying from inside-out.
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就像是從內到外的死去
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A Palestinian woman once told me,
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一位巴勒斯坦女人有一次告訴我,
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"It is not about the fear of one death,"
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“那不只是死去一次的恐懼而已,"
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she said, "sometimes I feel
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在她形容軍人的行軍
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I die 10 times in one day,"
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和他們子彈的聲音時,
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as she was describing the marches of soldiers
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她說,"有的時候我覺得
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and the sounds of their bullets.
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我在一天之中死了十次。"
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She said, "But it's not fair,
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而她說:"但這一切並不公平,
06:18
because there is only one life,
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因為人一生只有一次生命,
06:21
and there should only be one death."
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所以應該只有一次死亡而已, 不是嗎?“
06:27
We have been only seeing
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到目前為止 我們只看到
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one side of war.
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戰爭的其中一面
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We have only been discussing and consumed
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我們至今只討論和著迷於
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with high-level preoccupations
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如何在軍事上佔領越來越多
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over troop levels, drawdown timelines,
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的領土, 計畫作戰時間
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surges and sting operations,
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如何增兵和臥底行動
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when we should be examining the details
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當我們應該調查
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of where the social fabric
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在社會架構的細節裡
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has been most torn,
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哪裡被分裂最嚴重
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where the community has improvised
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哪裡的社區是臨時形成的
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and survived
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及倖存者
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and shown acts of resilience
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及其表現出的恢復力
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and amazing courage
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和驚人的勇氣
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just to keep life going.
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就只為了讓生活繼續過下去
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We have been so consumed
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我們只著迷在
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with seemingly objective discussions
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政治,戰術
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of politics, tactics,
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武器,金錢
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weapons, dollars
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戰爭裡的傷亡人員
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and casualties.
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等表面上客觀的討論
07:14
This is the language
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這是個內容匱乏
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of sterility.
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的溝通方式
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How casually
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在這個議題上
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we treat casualties
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我們對待戰爭的傷亡人員
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in the context of this topic.
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態度是如此的輕率
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This is where we conceive of rape and casualties
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因此我們認為強暴和戰爭的傷亡人員
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as inevitabilities.
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是不可逃避的責任
07:31
Eighty percent of refugees around the world
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世界上80%的難民
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are women and children. Oh.
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是女人和小孩--喔
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Ninety percent of modern war casualties
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90%的戰爭傷亡者
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are civilians.
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是平民老百姓
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Seventy-five percent of them are women and children.
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其中75%是女人和小孩
07:44
How interesting.
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多麼有趣的話題呀
07:47
Oh, half a million women in Rwanda
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喔, 在盧安達 五十萬的女性
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get raped in 100 days.
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在一百天之內遭到強暴
07:51
Or, as we speak now,
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或者, 在我們現在在講話的同時
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hundreds of thousands of Congolese women
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數以千計的剛果女人
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are getting raped and mutilated.
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正遭到強暴和凌虐
07:59
How interesting.
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多麼有趣呀
08:01
These just become numbers that we refer to.
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這些只不過變成我們參考的數字而已
08:05
The front of wars
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在戰爭前線
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is increasingly non-human eyes
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越來越多的衛星從太空中
08:10
peering down on our perceived enemies
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向下凝視著
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from space,
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我們已知的敵人們
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guiding missiles toward unseen targets,
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指引著導彈前往看不見的攻擊目標
08:17
while the human conduct
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就在人們為了
08:19
of the orchestra of media relations
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為了媒體而擁有的表演中
08:21
in the event that this particular drone attack
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這個特定的無人駕駛武器攻擊
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hits a villager
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沒打到激烈分子
08:26
instead of an extremist.
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反而打到一個無辜的村民
08:28
It is a chess game.
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這是場西洋棋比賽
08:30
You learn to play an international relations school
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你學習去玩一場國際關係的遊戲
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on your way out and up
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在你離開的時候
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to national and international leadership.
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學習迎合國內和國際的領導者
08:38
Checkmate.
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將軍,遊戲結束
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We are missing
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我們缺少了
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a completely other side of wars.
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戰爭另一面的完整面貌
08:47
We are missing my mother's story,
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我們缺少了我媽媽的故事
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who made sure with every siren, with every raid,
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在每次的警笛聲, 每次的空襲, 每次的斷電
08:53
with every cut off-of electricity,
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她都在那裡保護著我們
08:55
she played puppet shows for my brothers and I,
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她為了我和我哥哥表演木偶秀
08:57
so we would not be scared
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讓我們不會對爆炸的聲音
08:59
of the sounds of explosions.
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感到害怕
09:01
We are missing the story of Fareeda,
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我們缺少了Fareeda 的故事
09:04
a music teacher,
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她是位音樂老師
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a piano teacher, in Sarajevo,
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一位在塞拉耶佛的鋼琴老師
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who made sure
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在塞拉耶佛四年裡的圍攻行動裡
09:10
that she kept the music school open
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她日復一日
09:12
every single day
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堅持開放著
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in the four years of besiege in Sarajevo
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自己的音樂學校
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and walked to that school,
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在整個戰爭期間
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despite the snipers shooting
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不管狙擊兵拿著槍
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at that school and at her,
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瞄準她和學校
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and kept the piano, the violin, the cello
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她依然走到學校
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playing the whole duration of the war,
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讓學生戴著手套,帽子, 穿著外套
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with students wearing their gloves and hats and coats.
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演奏著鋼琴,小提琴,大提琴
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That was her fight.
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這是屬於她的戰爭
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That was her resistance.
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這是她對於戰爭的抵抗
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We are missing the story of Nehia,
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我們缺少了Nehia 的故事
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a Palestinian woman in Gaza
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一個在加薩的巴勒斯坦女人
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who, the minute there was a cease-fire in the last year's war,
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在去年開始的戰爭停火的那一瞬間
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she left out of home,
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她離開了家
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collected all the flour
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收集所有的麵粉
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and baked as much bread for every neighbor to have,
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烤了許多的麵包分配給鄰居們
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in case there is no cease-fire the day after.
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就怕接下來可能會繼續打仗
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We are missing
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我們缺少了
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the stories of Violet,
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Violet的故事
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who, despite surviving genocide in the church massacre,
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她不管自己才剛從教堂的集體大屠殺中生存下來
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she kept on going on,
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她仍繼續埋葬屍體
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burying bodies, cleaning homes, cleaning the streets.
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整理家園, 打掃街道
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We are missing stories of women
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我們缺少了那些在戰火中
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who are literally keeping life going
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仍然努力生活著的女人們
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in the midst of wars.
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的故事
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Do you know --
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你知道--
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do you know that people fall in love in war
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你知道仍有些人是在戰時相愛
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and go to school
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去上學
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and go to factories and hospitals
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仍然去工廠和醫院工作
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and get divorced and go dancing and go playing
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離婚,跳舞,玩樂
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and live life going?
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努力生活著的嗎?
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And the ones who are keeping that life
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而努力那樣生活著的
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are women.
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都是女人
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There are two sides of war.
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戰爭是兩面性的
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There is a side that fights,
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一面是在戰場上打仗
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and there is a side that keeps the schools
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而另一面則是開放學校
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and the factories and the hospitals open.
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工廠和醫院給有需要的人們的
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There is a side that is focused on winning battles,
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一面是專注在如何在戰場上打勝仗
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and there is a side that is focused
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而另一面是專注在
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on winning life.
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如何讓生活變得更好
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There is a side that leads the front-line discussion,
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一面是讓我們討論著前方的作戰策略
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and there is a side
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另一面是讓我們
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that leads the back-line discussion.
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討論後方的生活策略
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There is a side that thinks
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一面是覺得
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that peace is the end of fighting,
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不打仗了就是和平
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and there is a side that thinks
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但另一面則是認為
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that peace is the arrival
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所謂的和平
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of schools and jobs.
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就是能安全的抵達學校和工作地點
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There is a side
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有一面是由
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that is led by men,
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男人來主導的
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and there is a side
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而有一面
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that is led by women.
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是由女人來掌管的
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And in order for us to understand
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為了讓我們能夠更加了解
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how do we build lasting peace,
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我們要如何建立長久的和平
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we must understand war and peace
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我們必須從兩邊去了解
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from both sides.
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戰爭與和平
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We must have a full picture
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我們必須全面性的去了解
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of what that means.
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其背後真正的意義
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In order for us to understand
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為了讓我們了解
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what actually peace means,
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何謂真正的和平
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we need to understand,
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我們必須去了解
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as one Sudanese woman once told me,
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就如同一位蘇丹女人跟我說的,
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"Peace is the fact that my toenails
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“對我而言, 所謂的和平是
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are growing back again."
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當我的腳指甲重新長回來的時候。“
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She grew up in Sudan, in Southern Sudan,
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她在蘇丹南方長大
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for 20 years of war,
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20年間的戰爭
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where it killed one million people
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造成一百萬的人民死亡
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and displaced five million refugees.
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迫使五百萬的難民必須離開家鄉
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Many women were taken as slaves
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許多女人被革命軍和軍隊
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by rebels and soldiers,
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當成奴隸般的對待
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as sexual slaves who were forced also
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被迫成為軍人的性奴隸
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to carry the ammunition and the water
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還必須扛軍火和水
12:13
and the food for the soldiers.
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以及食物
12:15
So that woman walked for 20 years,
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所以這女人為了不再被軍隊抓到
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so she would not be kidnapped again.
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她到處逃難了20年
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And only when there was some sort of peace,
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她的腳指甲只有可能在
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her toenails grew back again.
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和平來臨時才有可能會再長出來
12:28
We need to understand peace
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我們必須從腳指甲的這個觀點
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from a toenail's perspective.
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來了解和平的意義
12:34
We need to understand
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我們必須了解到
12:36
that we cannot actually have negotiations
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如果我們不把女人涵蓋進來的話
12:38
of ending of wars or peace
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所謂為了停止戰爭或為了和平的協議
12:40
without fully including women
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就失去了意義
12:43
at the negotiating table.
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在談判桌上
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I find it amazing
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我驚訝的發現
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that the only group of people
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這群唯一在戰爭中
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who are not fighting and not killing
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沒有打仗 沒有殺人
12:51
and not pillaging and not burning and not raping,
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沒有搶劫 沒有放火 沒有強暴
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and the group of people who are mostly --
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這群人雖然不是唯一一群
12:56
though not exclusively --
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但是是最頻繁
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who are keeping life going in the midst of war,
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為了讓生活在戰火蔓延中繼續過下去而努力的人們
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are not included in the negotiating table.
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竟然沒有在談判桌上
13:06
And I do argue that women lead the back-line discussion,
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我主張女人應主導對於後方重建的議題
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but there are also men
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但事實上
13:11
who are excluded from that discussion.
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有許多男人在這個議題上被排除在外
13:13
The doctors who are not fighting,
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沒有去打仗的醫生們
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the artists, the students, the men who refuse to pick up the guns,
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那些藝術家,學生, 不願拿起槍去作戰的男人們
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they are, too, excluded
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他們在談判桌上
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from the negotiating tables.
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被嚴重的排除在外
13:23
There is no way we can talk about a lasting peace,
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我們不能討論如何保持長久和平
13:26
building of democracy, sustainable economies,
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建立民主國家, 穩定的經濟
13:29
any kind of stabilities,
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任何形態的穩定局勢
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if we do not fully include women
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如果我們不延攬女人在
13:34
at the negotiating table.
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在談判桌上的話就無法達成
13:36
Not one, but 50 percent.
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而且至少一半要是女人
13:40
There is no way we can talk about the building of stability
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如果我們不開始在女人和女孩
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if we don't start investing
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身上投資
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in women and girls.
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我們是不能討論建立穩定的社會
13:48
Did you know
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你知道
13:50
that one year
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世界上所有軍隊一年的
13:52
of the world's military spending
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支出
13:54
equals 700 years
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相當於700年的
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of the U.N. budget
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聯合國的預算
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and equals 2,928 years
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相當於2928年的
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of the U.N. budget allocated for women?
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聯合國對女性的預算
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If we just reverse
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如果我們把這些預算
14:09
that distribution of funds,
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發放在女性身上的話
14:11
perhaps we could have
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或許世界上會有個
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a better lasting peace in this world.
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更美好的和平景象
14:17
And last, but not least,
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同樣重要的是
14:19
we need to invest in peace and women,
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我們必須投資在和平和女人上
14:22
not only because it is the right thing to do,
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不只因為我們該作這件正確的事情
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not only because it is the right thing to do,
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我們該作這件正確的事情
14:28
for all of us to build sustainable and lasting peace today,
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不只是為了今天我們能建立穩定且長久的和平
14:31
but it is for the future.
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而是為了未來
14:34
A Congolese woman,
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一個剛果女人告訴我
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who was telling me about
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她的孩子們
14:38
how her children saw their father killed in front of them
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目睹自己父親在他們面前被殺害
14:41
and saw her raped in front of them
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看到母親在他們面前被強暴
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and mutilated in front of them,
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在他們面前被凌虐
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and her children saw their nine-year-old sibling
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她的孩子們看到他們九歲大的兄弟姊妹
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killed in front of them,
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在他們面前被殺害
14:51
how they're doing okay right now.
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他們要如何過得好好的?
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She got into Women for Women International's program.
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她加入了Women for Women International 計畫
14:56
She got a support network.
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她得到了支援
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She learned about her rights.
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知道她的權利
15:00
We taught her vocational and business skills. We helped her get a job.
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我們教導她職業和商業技巧. 幫助她找到了工作
15:03
She was earning 450 dollars. She was doing okay.
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她現在能賺$450. 現在過得很好
15:06
She was sending them to school. Have a new home.
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她把孩子們送去上學-- 有了新家
15:08
She said, "But what I worry about the most
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她說, “我最擔心的
15:11
is not any of that.
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並不是這些
15:13
I worry that my children
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我擔心的是我的小孩
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have hate in their hearts,
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心中有怨恨
15:18
and when they want to grow up, they want to fight again
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我怕他們長大後,會想要找
15:21
the killers of their father and their brother."
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殺害他們父親和兄弟的兇手復仇"
15:25
We need to invest in women,
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我們需要在女人身上投資
15:28
because that's our only chance
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因為那是我們確保未來
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to ensure that there is no more war
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不會再有任何的戰爭
15:33
in the future.
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的唯一機會
15:35
That mother has a better chance to heal her children
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母親是比任何和平協議都能
15:38
than any peace agreement can do.
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治愈她們的孩子
15:42
Are there good news? Of course, there are good news. There are lots of good news.
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你問我有好消息嗎? 當然有 有好多好多的好消息
15:45
To start with, these women that I told you about
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首先, 我剛剛提到的女人們
15:48
are dancing and singing every single day,
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現在每天開心的唱歌跳舞著
15:51
and if they can,
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如果他們能這麼做
15:53
who are we not to dance?
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我們為何不能呢?
15:55
That girl that I told you about
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我剛剛提到的女孩
15:57
ended up starting Women for Women International Group
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現在開始在Women for Women International Group 工作
16:00
that impacted one million people, sent 80 million dollars,
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她能影響一百萬人, 動用八千萬美金的經費
16:03
and I started this from zero,
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而我那時可是從零開始
16:05
nothing, nada, [unclear].
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什麼都沒有, nada, [不清楚]
16:08
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
16:11
They are women who are standing on their feet
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這些女人是在艱難的環境中
16:14
in spite of their circumstances,
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生存了下來
16:17
not because of it.
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不只如此
16:20
Think of how the world can be a much better place
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他們想讓世界變得更加美好
16:23
if, for a change,
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如果,我們要有改變
16:25
we have a better equality,
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我們有更好的平等機會
16:27
we have equality,
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我們是平等的
16:29
we have a representation
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我們有人能替我們發聲
16:31
and we understand war,
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而我們了解戰爭
16:33
both from the front-line
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不只是前線
16:35
and the back-line discussion.
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還有後方
16:37
Rumi, a 13th-century Sufi poet,
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魯米, 一位13世紀蘇非派的詩人
16:40
says, "Out beyond the worlds
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說, “在正確的行為和錯誤的行為的
16:42
of right-doings and wrong-doings,
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世界之外
16:45
there is a field.
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那裡有個地方
16:47
I will meet you there.
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我會在那裡和你相見
16:49
When the soul lies down in that grass,
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當靈魂躺在那裡的草皮上時
16:52
the world is too full
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談論世界
16:54
to talk about.
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太過於多餘
16:56
Ideas, language,
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想法, 語言
16:58
even the phrase 'each other'
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甚至 “彼此“這個片語
17:00
no longer makes any sense."
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都不再有任何意義“
17:04
I humbly add -- humbly add --
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我虛心的改成—虛心的改成
17:07
that out beyond
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在戰爭與和平的
17:09
the worlds of war and peace,
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世界之外
17:12
there is a field,
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那裡有個地方
17:14
and there are many women and men
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許多女人和男人
17:17
[who] are meeting there.
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在那裡相遇
17:20
Let us make this field a much bigger place.
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讓我們擴大那個地方
17:23
Let us all meet in that field.
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讓我們都在那裡相遇
17:26
Thank you.
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謝謝你們
17:28
(Applause)
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