Mac Barnett: Why a good book is a secret door

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Prevodilac: Ivana Krivokuća Lektor: Mile Živković
00:12
Hi everybody. So my name is Mac.
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Zdravo svima. Zovem se Mek.
00:14
My job is that I lie to children,
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Moj posao je da lažem decu,
00:18
but they're honest lies.
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ali to su iskrene laži.
00:20
I write children's books,
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Pišem knjige za decu,
00:22
and there's a quote from Pablo Picasso,
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i ima jedan citat Pabla Pikasa:
00:25
"We all know that Art is not truth.
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"Svi mi znamo da umetnost nije istina.
00:28
Art is a lie that makes us realize truth
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Umetnost je laž koja čini da shvatimo istinu
00:32
or at least the truth that is given us to understand.
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ili makar istinu koja nam je data da je razumemo.
00:35
The artist must know the manner whereby
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Umetnik mora znati način pomoću koga
00:37
to convince others of the truthfulness of his lies."
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će ubediti druge u istinitost njegovih laži."
00:42
I first heard this when I was a kid,
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Prvi put sam ovo čuo kada sam bio dete,
00:44
and I loved it,
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i svidelo mi se,
00:46
but I had no idea what it meant.
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ali nisam imao pojma šta je značilo.
00:49
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:50
So I thought, you know what, it's what I'm here
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Pa sam pomislio, znate šta, zbog toga sam ovde
00:52
to talk to you today about, though,
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da govorim sa vama
00:54
truth and lies, fiction and reality.
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o istini i lažima, fikciji i stvarnosti.
00:56
So how could I untangle
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Kako bih mogao da razmrsim
00:58
this knotted bunch of sentences?
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ovu zamršenu gomilu rečenica?
01:01
And I said, I've got PowerPoint. Let's do a Venn diagram.
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I rekao sam, imam PowerPoint. Hajde da uradimo Venov dijagram.
01:04
["Truth. Lies."] (Laughter)
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["Istina. Laži."] (Smeh)
01:07
So there it is, right there, boom.
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Dakle eto ga, upravo ovde, bum.
01:08
We've got truth and lies
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Imamo istinu i laži
01:10
and then there's this little space,
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i zatim tu je ovaj mali prostor,
01:11
the edge, in the middle.
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ivica, u sredini.
01:13
That liminal space, that's art.
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Taj liminalni prostor, to je umetnost.
01:19
All right. Venn diagram. (Laughter) (Applause)
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U redu. Venov dijagram. (Smeh) (Aplauz)
01:24
But that's actually not very helpful either.
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Ali ni to zapravo nije mnogo od pomoći.
01:27
The thing that made me understand
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Ono što je učinilo da razumem
01:32
that quote and really kind of what art,
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taj citat i kakva je u stvari umetnost,
01:34
at least the art of fiction, was,
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ili bar umetnost fikcije,
01:37
was working with kids.
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jeste rad sa decom.
01:38
I used to be a summer camp counselor.
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Nekada sam bio savetnik letnjeg kampa.
01:40
I would do it on my summers off from college,
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Radio bih to u leto kada sam bio na koledžu,
01:43
and I loved it.
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i obožavao sam to.
01:46
It was a sports summer camp
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Bio je to sportski letnji kamp
01:48
for four- to six-year-olds.
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za decu od 4 do 6 godina.
01:49
I was in charge of the four-year-olds,
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Bio sam zadužen za četvorogodišnjake,
01:51
which is good, because
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što je dobro, jer
01:53
four-year-olds can't play sports, and neither can I.
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četvorogodišnjaci ne umeju da igraju sportske igre, a ne umem ni ja.
01:56
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:58
I play sports at a four-year-old level,
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Igram sportske igre na nivou četvorogodišnjaka,
02:01
so what would happen is the kids would
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tako da bi deca driblala
02:04
dribble around some cones, and then got hot,
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oko nekih čunjeva, i onda bi im bilo vruće,
02:06
and then they would go sit underneath the tree
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i zatim bi seli ispod drveta
02:08
where I was already sitting — (Laughter) —
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gde sam ja već sedeo - (Smeh) -
02:11
and I would just make up stories and tell them to them
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i ja bih izmišljao priče i pričao im ih
02:14
and I would tell them stories about my life.
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i pričao bih im priče o svom životu.
02:16
I would tell them about how, on the weekends,
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Pričao bih im kako bih, vikendima,
02:17
I would go home and I would spy for the Queen of England.
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odlazio kući i špijunirao za kraljicu Engleske.
02:21
And soon, other kids
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I uskoro, druga deca
02:24
who weren't even in my group of kids,
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koja nisu čak ni bila u mojoj grupi,
02:26
they would come up to me, and they would say,
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dolazili bi kod mene, i rekli bi:
02:27
"You're Mac Barnett, right?
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"Ti si Mek Barnet, zar ne?
02:29
You're the guy who spies for the Queen of England."
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Ti si tip koji špijunira za kraljicu Engleske."
02:32
And I had been waiting my whole life for strangers
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Čekao sam čitavog života da nepoznati priđu
02:35
to come up and ask me that question.
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i postave mi to pitanje.
02:38
In my fantasy, they were svelte Russian women,
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U mojoj fantaziji, to su bile vitke Ruskinje,
02:40
but, you know, four-year-olds —
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ali, znate, četvorogodišnjaci -
02:41
you take what you can get in Berkeley, California.
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uzimaš šta ti se pruža u Berkliju u Kaliforniji.
02:46
And I realized that the stories that I was telling
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Shvatio sam da su priče koje sam pričao
02:50
were real in this way that was familiar to me
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bile stvarne na način koji mi je bio poznat
02:54
and really exciting.
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i zaista uzbudljiv.
02:55
I think the pinnacle of this for me — I'll never forget this —
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Mislim da je vrhunac ovoga za mene - nikada neću zaboraviti ovo -
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there was this little girl named Riley. She was tiny,
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tu je bila devojčica po imenu Rajli. Bila je malena,
03:00
and she used to always take out her lunch every day
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i uvek je imala običaj da ruča napolju
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and she would throw out her fruit.
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i da baca svoje voće.
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She would just take her fruit,
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Samo bi uzela svoje voće,
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her mom packed her a melon every day,
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mama bi joj spakovala dinju svakog dana,
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and she would just throw it in the ivy
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a ona bi je bacila u bršljen
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and then she would eat fruit snacks
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i zatim bi jela voćne grickalice
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and pudding cups, and I was like, "Riley,
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i puding, a ja sam govorio:
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you can't do that, you have to eat the fruit."
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"Rajli, ne možeš to da radiš, moraš da jedeš voće."
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And she was like, "Why?"
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A ona je rekla: "Zašto?"
03:19
And I was like, "Well, when you throw the fruit in the ivy,
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Ja sam kazao: "Pa, kada bacaš voće u bršljen,
03:21
pretty soon, it's going to be overgrown with melons,"
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uskoro će potpuno da obraste lubenicama,"
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which is why I think I ended up
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zbog čega mislim da sam na kraju
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telling stories to children and not being a nutritionist for children.
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pričao priče deci a nisam postao nutricionista za decu.
03:32
And so Riley was like, "That will never happen.
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Rajli je rekla: "To se nikada neće dogoditi.
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That's not going to happen."
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To se neće dogoditi."
03:35
And so, on the last day of camp,
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I tako, poslednjeg dana kampa,
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I got up early and I got a big cantaloupe
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ustao sam rano i kupio veliku dinju
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from the grocery store
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u prodavnici
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and I hid it in the ivy,
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i sakrio je u bršljenu,
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and then at lunchtime, I was like,
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i zatim u vreme ručka rekao:
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"Riley, why don't you go over there and see what you've done."
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"Rajli, zašto ne odeš tamo i vidiš šta si učinila."
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And — (Laughter) —
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I - (Smeh) -
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she went trudging through the ivy, and then her eyes
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ona se provukla kroz bršljen, i onda su njene oči
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just got so wide, and she pointed out this melon
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postale tako velike i pokazala je dinju
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that was bigger than her head,
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koja je bila veća od njene glave,
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and then all the kids ran over there and rushed around her,
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i sva deca su potrčala tamo i pohitala oko nje,
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and one of the kids was like, "Hey,
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a neko od dece reče:
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why is there a sticker on this?"
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"Hej, zašto je nalepnica na ovome?"
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:09
And I was like, "That is also why I say
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A ja sam rekao: "Baš zbog toga sam govorio
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do not throw your stickers in the ivy.
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da ne bacate ni svoje nalepnice u bršljen.
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Put them in the trash can. It ruins nature when you do this."
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Ubacite ih u kantu za smeće. Uništavate prirodu kada to radite."
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And Riley carried that melon around with her all day,
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Rajli je nosala tu dinju sa sobom čitavog dana,
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and she was so proud.
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i bila je tako ponosna.
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And Riley knew she didn't grow a melon in seven days,
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Rajli je znala da nije uzgajila dinju za sedam dana,
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but she also knew that she did,
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ali je takođe znala da jeste,
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and it's a weird place,
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i to je čudno mesto,
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but it's not just a place that kids can get to.
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ali tamo ne dospevaju samo deca.
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It's anything. Art can get us to that place.
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To je bilo šta. Umetnost nas može odvesti na to mesto.
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She was right in that place in the middle,
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Ona je bila upravo na tom središnjem mestu,
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that place which you could call art or fiction.
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na tom mestu koje biste mogli nazvati umetnost ili fikcija.
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I'm going to call it wonder.
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Ja ću ga zvati čuđenje.
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It's what Coleridge called the willing suspension of disbelief
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To je ono što je Kolridž nazvao voljnom suspenzijom neverice
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or poetic faith,
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ili poetičnom verom,
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for those moments where a story, no matter how strange,
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te trenutke gde priča, ma kako čudna,
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has some semblance of the truth,
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ima nešto sličnosti sa istinom,
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and then you're able to believe it.
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i tada ste u stanju da verujete u nju.
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It's not just kids who can get there.
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Ne dospevaju samo deca tamo.
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Adults can too, and we get there when we read.
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Odrasli mogu takođe, a tamo stižemo kada čitamo.
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It's why in two days, people will be
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Zato će se dva dana ljudi
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descending on Dublin to take the walking tour
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navaliti na Dablin da bi krenuli na pešačku turu
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of Bloomsday and see everything that happened in "Ulysses,"
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Blumsdeja i videli sve što se dogodilo u "Uliksu",
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even though none of that happened.
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iako se ništa od toga nije dogodilo.
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Or people go to London and they visit Baker Street
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Ili kad ljudi idu u London i posećuju ulicu Bejker
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to see Sherlock Holmes' apartment,
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da vide stan Šerloka Holmsa,
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even though 221B is just a number that was painted
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iako je 221B samo broj koji je oslikan
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on a building that never actually had that address.
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na zgradi koja nikada zapravo nije imala tu adresu.
05:29
We know these characters aren't real,
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Mi znamo da ti likovi nisu stvarni,
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but we have real feelings about them,
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ali imamo stvarna osećanja prema njima,
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and we're able to do that.
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i u stanju smo da to činimo.
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We know these characters aren't real,
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Znamo da ti likovi nisu stvarni,
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and yet we also know that they are.
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a ipak takođe znamo da jesu.
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Kids can get there a lot more easily than adults can,
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Deca mogu da stignu tamo mnogo lakše nego odrasli,
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and that's why I love writing for kids.
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i zato volim da pišem za decu.
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I think kids are the best audience
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Mislim da su deca najbolja publika
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for serious literary fiction.
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za ozbiljnu književnu fikciju.
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When I was a kid,
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Kada sam bio dete,
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I was obsessed with secret door novels,
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bio sam opsednut romanima sa tajnim vratima,
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things like "Narnia,"
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stvarima kao što je "Narnija",
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where you would open a wardrobe and go through to a magical land.
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gde biste otvorili orman i otišli u čarobnu zemlju.
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And I was convinced that secret doors really did exist
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I bio sam ubeđen da tajna vrata zaista postoje
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and I would look for them and try to go through them.
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i tragao bih za njima i pokušavao da ih pronađem.
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I wanted to live and cross over into that fictional world, which is —
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Želeo sam da živim i pređem u taj izmišljeni svet, a to je -
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I would always just open people's closet doors. (Laughter)
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uvek bih ljudima otvarao vrata plakara. (Smeh)
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I would just go through my mom's boyfriend's closet,
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Prošao bih kroz plakar dečka moje mame,
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and there was not a secret magical land there.
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a tamo nije bilo tajne čarobne zemlje.
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There was some other weird stuff that I think my mom should know about.
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Tamo je bilo nekih drugih čudnih stvari za koje mislim
06:23
(Laughter)
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da je moja mama trebalo da zna. (Smeh)
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And I was happy to tell her all about it.
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I bilo mi je drago da joj ispričam sve o tome.
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After college, my first job was working
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Posle koledža, moj prvi posao je bio da radim
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behind one of these secret doors.
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iza jednih od tih tajnih vrata.
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This is a place called 826 Valencia.
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Ovo je mesto zvano 826 Valensija.
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It's at 826 Valencia Street
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Nalazi se na adresi 826 Valensija
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in the Mission in San Francisco,
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u Misiji u San Francisku,
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and when I worked there, there was a publishing company
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i kada sam radio tamo, postojala je izdavačka kompanija
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headquartered there called McSweeney's,
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sa sedištem tamo po imenu Meksviniz,
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a nonprofit writing center called 826 Valencia,
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neprofitni spisateljski centar zvani 826 Valensija,
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but then the front of it
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ali ispred njega
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was a strange shop.
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je bila čudna radnja.
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You see, this place was zoned retail,
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Vidite, to mesto je bilo u zoni maloprodaje,
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and in San Francisco, they were not going to give us a variance,
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a u San Francisku nisu hteli da nam dopuste odstupanje,
07:00
and so the writer who founded it, a writer named Dave Eggers,
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i tako je pisac koji ga je osnovao, pisac po imenu Dejv Egers,
07:03
to come into compliance with code, he said, "Fine,
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da bi bio u skladu sa propisima, rekao:
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I'm just going to build a pirate supply store."
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"Dobro, moraću da napravim piratsku radnju za snabdevanje."
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And that's what he did. (Laughter)
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I to je i učinio. (Smeh)
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And it's beautiful. It's all wood.
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Prelepa je. Skroz je u drvetu.
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There's drawers you can pull out and get citrus
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Ima fioka koje možete da izvučete i uzmete citruse
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so you don't get scurvy.
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kako ne biste dobili skorbut.
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They have eyepatches in lots of colors,
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Imaju poveze za oko u mnogim bojama,
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because when it's springtime, pirates want to go wild.
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jer kada je prolećno doba, pirati žele da divljaju.
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You don't know. Black is boring. Pastel.
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Ne znate vi. Crno je dosadno. Pastelno.
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Or eyes, also in lots of colors,
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Ili oči, takođe mnogo boja,
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just glass eyes, depending on how you want
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staklenih očiju, u zavisnosti od toga
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to deal with that situation.
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kako želite da se bavite situacijom.
07:37
And the store, strangely,
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I radnja, čudno,
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people came to them and bought things,
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ljudi su dolazili i kupovali stvari,
07:44
and they ended up paying the rent
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i na kraju su platili kiriju
07:46
for our tutoring center, which was behind it,
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za nas tutorski centar, koji je bio iza,
07:48
but to me, more important was the fact
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ali za mene, važnija je bila činjenica
07:51
that I think the quality of work you do,
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što mislim da kvalitet posla koji obavljate,
07:53
kids would come and get instruction in writing,
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deca bi dolazila i dobijala uputstva o pisanju,
07:56
and when you have to walk this weird, liminal, fictional space like this to go do your writing,
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a kada treba da hodate ovim čudnim, liminalnim, izmišljenim prostorom
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it's going to affect the kind of work that you make.
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da biste pisali, to će imati uticaja na vrstu posla koji obavljate.
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It's a secret door that you can walk through.
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To su tajna vrata kroz koja možete proći.
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So I ran the 826 in Los Angeles,
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Vodio sam 826 u Los Anđelesu,
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and it was my job to build the store down there.
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i moj posao je bio da napravim prodavnicu tamo.
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So we have The Echo Park Time Travel Mart.
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Tako smo dobili Eho park market za putovanje kroz vreme.
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That's our motto: "Whenever you are, we're already then."
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To je naš moto: "Kad god ste vi, mi smo već tada."
08:19
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:23
And it's on Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles.
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Nalazi se na Bulevaru Sanset u Los Anđelesu.
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Our friendly staff is ready to help you.
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Naše prijateljsko osoblje je spremno da vam pomogne.
08:29
They're from all eras,
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Oni su iz svih era,
08:32
including just the 1980s, that guy on the end,
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uključujući 1980-e, onaj tip na kraju,
08:35
he's from the very recent past.
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on je iz vrlo skorašnje prošlosti.
08:37
There's our Employees of the Month,
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Evo naših radnika meseca,
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including Genghis Khan, Charles Dickens.
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uključujići Džingis Kana, Čarlsa Dikensa.
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Some great people have come up through our ranks.
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Neki od velikih ljudi su prošli kroz naše redove.
08:45
This is our kind of pharmacy section.
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Ovo je naša vrsta farmaceutske sekcije.
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We have some patent medicines,
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Imamo neke patentirane lekove,
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Canopic jars for your organs,
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kanopske vaze za vaše organe,
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communist soap that says,
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komunistički sapun na kome piše:
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"This is your soap for the year." (Laughter)
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"Ovo je vaš sapun za ovu godinu." (Smeh)
08:57
Our slushy machine broke
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Naša mašina za sladoled se pokvarila
08:59
on the opening night and we didn't know what to do.
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u noći otvaranja i nismo znali šta da radimo.
09:02
Our architect was covered in red syrup.
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Naš arhitekta je bio prekriven crvenim sirupom.
09:04
It looked like he had just murdered somebody,
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Izgledalo je kao da je upravo ubio nekoga,
09:07
which it was not out of the question
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što ne bi bilo neverovatno
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for this particular architect,
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za ovog konkretnog arhitektu,
i nismo znali šta da radimo.
09:11
and we didn't know what to do.
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To je trebalo da bude vrhunac naše radnje.
09:12
It was going to be the highlight of our store.
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09:13
So we just put that sign on it that said,
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Tako da smo stavili znak na kome je pisalo:
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"Out of order. Come back yesterday." (Laughter)
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"U kvaru. Vratite se juče." (Smeh)
09:19
And that ended up being a better joke than slushies,
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I to je na kraju bila još bolja šala od sladoleda,
09:21
so we just left it there forever.
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pa smo ga ostavili tu za stalno.
09:25
Mammoth Chunks. These things weigh, like, seven pounds each.
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Mamut u komadima. Teži oko 3 kg svaka.
09:29
Barbarian repellent. It's full of salad
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Sprej za odbijanje varvara. Pun je salate
09:32
and potpourri — things that barbarians hate.
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i potpurija - stvari koje varvari mrze.
09:36
Dead languages.
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Mrtvi jezici.
09:38
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:41
Leeches, nature's tiny doctors.
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Pijavice, mali doktori prirode.
09:44
And Viking Odorant, which comes in lots of great scents:
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I vikinški dezodoransi, dostupni u mnogo sjajnih mirisa:
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toenails, sweat and rotten vegetables, pyre ash.
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nokti na nožnim prstima, gnjecavo i trulo povrće, pepeo sa lomače.
09:51
Because we believe that Axe Body Spray
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Zato što verujemo da je Aks dezodorans
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is something that you should only find on the battlefield,
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nešto što bi trebalo da nađete samo na bojnom polju,
09:55
not under your arms. (Laughter)
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a ne pod svojim rukama.
09:59
And these are robot emotion chips,
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A ovo su robotski čipovi za emocije,
10:01
so robots can feel love or fear.
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kako bi roboti mogli da osete ljubav ili strah.
10:03
Our biggest seller is Schadenfreude,
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Najviše se prodaje Zluradost,
10:05
which we did not expect.
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što nismo očekivali.
10:06
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:07
We did not think that was going to happen.
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Nismo mislili da će se to dogoditi.
Ali neprofitna organizacija je iza,
10:10
But there's a nonprofit behind it,
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i deca prolaze kroz vrata na kojima piše: "Samo za zaposlene"
10:12
and kids go through a door that says "Employees Only"
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10:14
and they end up in this space
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i dospevaju na mesto
10:15
where they do homework and write stories
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gde rade domaće zadatke i pišu priče
10:17
and make films and this is a book release party
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i prave filmove i ovo je žurka povodom promocije knjige
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where kids will read.
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gde deca čitaju.
10:21
There's a quarterly that's published
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Postoji tromesečnik u kome se objavljuju
10:23
with just writing that's done by the kids
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samo dela koja su pisala deca
10:25
who come every day after school,
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koja dolaze svakog dana posle škole,
10:26
and we have release parties
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i imamo promotivne žurke
10:27
and they eat cake and read for their parents
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i oni jedu tortu i čitaju svojim roditeljima
10:30
and drink milk out of champagne glasses.
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i piju mleko iz čaša za šampanjac.
10:33
And it's a very special space,
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I to je veoma posebno mesto,
10:36
because it's this weird space in the front.
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jer je ovo čudno mesto ispred.
10:39
The joke isn't a joke.
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Šala nije šala.
10:43
You can't find the seams on the fiction,
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Ne možete naći šupljine u fikciji,
10:45
and I love that. It's this little bit of fiction
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i obožavam to. To malo fikcije
10:48
that's colonized the real world.
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je kolonizovalo stvarni svet.
10:51
I see it as kind of a book in three dimensions.
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Ja to vidim kao knjigu u tri dimenzije.
10:55
There's a term called metafiction,
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Postoji termin metafikcija,
10:58
and that's just stories about stories,
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i to su priče o pričama,
i sada je metafikcija popularna.
11:02
and meta's having a moment now.
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11:03
Its last big moment was probably in the 1960s
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Njen poslednji veliki momenat je bio verovatno u 1960-im
11:05
with novelists like John Barth and William Gaddis,
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sa romanopiscima kao što je Džon Bart i Vilijem Gedis,
11:08
but it's been around.
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ali uvek je bila tu negde.
11:09
It's almost as old as storytelling itself.
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Skoro da je stara kao samo pripovedanje.
11:13
And one metafictive technique
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I jedna tehnika metafikcije
11:15
is breaking the fourth wall. Right?
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narušava granicu između fikcije i stvarnosti. Zar ne?
11:17
It's when an actor will turn to the audience
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To je kada se glumac okrene ka publici
11:20
and say, "I am an actor,
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i kaže: "Ja sam glumac,
11:21
these are just rafters."
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ovi su samo splavari."
11:24
And even that supposedly honest moment,
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Čak i taj navodno iskreni trenutak,
11:26
I would argue, is in service of the lie,
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tvrdio bih, u službi je laži,
11:28
but it's supposed to foreground the artificiality
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a trebalo bi da stavi u prvi plan
11:31
of the fiction.
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lažnost fikcije.
11:33
For me, I kind of prefer the opposite.
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Što se mene tiče, ja preferiram suprotno.
11:35
If I'm going to break down the fourth wall,
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Ako ću narušiti tu granicu,,
11:37
I want fiction to escape
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hoću da fikcija izađe
11:39
and come into the real world.
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i istupi u stvarni svet.
11:41
I want a book to be a secret door that opens
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Želim da knjiga bude tajni prolaz koji se otvara
11:46
and lets the stories out into reality.
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i pušta priče u stvarnost.
11:49
And so I try to do this in my books.
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Pokušavam da to uradim u svojim knjigama.
11:52
And here's just one example.
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Evo jednog primera.
11:53
This is the first book that I ever made.
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Ovo je prva knjiga koju sam ikada napravio.
11:55
It's called "Billy Twitters and his Blue Whale Problem."
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Zove se "Bili Tviters i njegov problem sa plavim kitom".
11:58
And it's about a kid who gets a blue whale as a pet
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Radi se o detetu koje dobija plavog kita za ljubimca
12:00
but it's a punishment
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ali to je kazna
12:02
and it ruins his life.
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i uništi njegov život.
12:04
So it's delivered overnight by FedUp.
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Dostavlja ga preko noći FedUp.
12:07
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:10
And he has to take it to school with him.
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I mora da ga vodi u školu sa sobom.
12:12
He lives in San Francisco —
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On živi u San Francisku -
12:13
very tough city to own a blue whale in.
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veoma nezgodnom gradu za čuvanje plavog kita.
12:15
A lot of hills, real estate is at a premium.
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Dosta brda, nekretnine su skupe.
12:20
This market's crazy, everybody.
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Na tržištu je ludilo, narode.
12:22
But underneath the jacket is this case,
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Ali ispod omota je ovo umetnuto,
12:26
and that's the cover underneath the book, the jacket,
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a to je korica ispod knjige, omota,
12:30
and there's an ad
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i tu je oglas
12:32
that offers a free 30-day risk-free trial
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koji nudi besplatnu probu 30 dana bez rizika
12:35
for a blue whale.
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za plavog kita.
12:37
And you can just send in a self-addressed stamped envelope
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Možete poslati odštampani koverat adresiran na sebe
12:40
and we'll send you a whale.
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a mi ćemo vam poslati kita.
12:44
And kids do write in.
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Deca zaista pišu.
12:48
So here's a letter. It says, "Dear people,
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Evo pisma. Kaže: "Dragi ljudi,
12:52
I bet you 10 bucks you won't send me a blue whale.
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kladim se u 10 dolara da mi nećete poslati plavog kita.
12:55
Eliot Gannon (age 6)."
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Eliot Genon (6 godina)."
12:57
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smeh) (Aplauz)
13:02
So what Eliot and the other kids
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Ono šta Eliot i druga deca
13:04
who send these in get back
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koja to šalju dobiju nazad
13:07
is a letter in very small print from a Norwegian law firm —
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jeste pismo sa vrlo sitnim slovima iz norveške pravne firme --
13:10
(Laughter) —
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(Smeh) --
13:14
that says that due to a change in customs laws,
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u kome stoji da je zbog izmene carinskih zakona
13:17
their whale has been held up in Sognefjord,
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njihov kit zadržan u Sonjefjordu,
13:19
which is a very lovely fjord,
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koji je veoma lep fjord,
13:21
and then it just kind of talks about Sognefjord
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i zatim samo govori o Sonjefjordu
13:22
and Norwegian food for a little while. It digresses.
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i norveškoj hrani neko vreme. Pravi digresiju.
13:25
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:28
But it finishes off by saying that
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Ali završava se tako što navodi
13:30
your whale would love to hear from you.
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da bi kit voleo da se čuje sa vama.
13:33
He's got a phone number,
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On ima telefonski broj,
13:35
and you can call and leave him a message.
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i možete pozvati i ostaviti mu poruku.
13:39
And when you call and leave him a message,
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A kada pozovete i ostavite mu poruku,
13:42
you just, on the outgoing message,
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na odlaznoj poruci,
13:44
it's just whale sounds and then a beep,
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čuju se zvuci kita i zatim bip,
13:49
which actually sounds a lot like a whale sound.
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koji zapravo dosta podseća na zvuk kita.
13:52
And they get a picture of their whale too.
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I takođe dobiju sliku svog kita.
13:54
So this is Randolph,
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Ovo je Rendolf,
13:57
and Randolph belongs to a kid named Nico
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i on pripada detetu po imenu Niko
14:00
who was one of the first kids to ever call in,
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koji se među prvima javio,
14:05
and I'll play you some of Nico's message.
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i pustiću vam neke od Nikovih poruka.
14:07
This is the first message I ever got from Nico.
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Ovo je prva poruka koju sam dobio od Nika.
14:11
(Audio) Nico: Hello, this is Nico.
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(Audio) Niko: Zdravo, ovde Niko.
14:13
I am your owner, Randolph. Hello.
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Ja sam tvoj vlasnik, Rendolfe. Zdravo.
14:17
So this is the first time I can ever talk to you,
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Ovo je prvi put da mogu da razgovaram sa tobom,
14:21
and I might talk to you soon another day. Bye.
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a možda ću moći uskoro da pričam sa tobom drugog dana. Ćao.
14:27
Mac Barnett: So Nico called back, like, an hour later.
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Mek Barnet: Niko je ponovo pozvao, nekih sat vremena kasnije.
14:30
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:32
And here's another one of Nico's messages.
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Evo još jedne od Nikovih poruka.
14:36
(Audio) Nico: Hello, Randolph, this is Nico.
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(Audio) Niko: Zdravo Rendolfe, ovde Niko.
14:39
I haven't talked to you for a long time,
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Nisam dugo pričao sa tobom,
14:44
but I talked to you on Saturday or Sunday,
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ali sam pričao sa tobom u subotu ili nedelju,
14:49
yeah, Saturday or Sunday,
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da, subotu ili nedelju,
14:51
so now I'm calling you again
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pa te sad ponovo zovem
14:54
to say hello and I wonder what you're doing right now,
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da se javim i pitam se šta sada radiš,
14:59
and I'm going to probably call you again
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i verovatno ću te zvati ponovo
15:02
tomorrow or today,
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sutra ili danas,
15:04
so I'll talk to you later. Bye.
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tako da ću pričati sa tobom kasnije. Ćao.
15:09
MB: So he did, he called back that day again.
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MB: I jeste, pozvao je ponovo tog dana.
15:13
He's left over 25 messages for Randolph
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Ostavio je preko 25 poruka za Rendolfa
15:17
over four years.
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tokom četiri godine.
15:20
You find out all about him
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Saznate sve o njemu
15:22
and the grandma that he loves
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i baki koju voli
15:23
and the grandma that he likes a little bit less —
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i baki koja mu se sviđa malo manje -
15:26
(Laughter) —
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(Smeh) -
15:28
and the crossword puzzles that he does,
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i ukrštenicama kojima se bavi,
15:30
and this is — I'll play you one more message from Nico.
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i ovo je - pustiću vam još jednu poruku od Nika.
15:34
This is the Christmas message from Nico.
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Ovo je Božićna poruka od Nika.
15:37
[Beep] (Audio) Nico: Hello, Randolph,
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[Bip] (Audio) Niko: Zdravo Rendolfe,
15:40
sorry I haven't talked to you in a long time.
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izvini što dugo nisam pričao sa tobom.
15:43
It's just that I've been so busy
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Bio sam toliko zauzet
15:46
because school started,
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jer je škola počela,
15:48
as you might not know, probably,
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što ti verovatno ne znaš,
15:51
since you're a whale, you don't know,
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pošto si kit, ne znaš,
15:55
and I'm calling you to just say,
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i zovem te samo da kažem,
16:00
to wish you a merry Christmas.
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da ti poželim srećan Božić.
16:04
So have a nice Christmas,
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Želim ti lep Božić,
16:08
and bye-bye, Randolph. Goodbye.
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i ćao-ćao Rendolfe. Zbogom.
16:15
MB: I actually got Nico,
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MB: Zapravo sam dobio Nika,
16:17
I hadn't heard from in 18 months,
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nisam ga čuo 18 meseci,
16:20
and he just left a message two days ago.
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i upravo je ostavio poruku pre dva dana.
16:24
His voice is completely different,
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Njegov glas je potpuno drugačiji,
16:26
but he put his babysitter on the phone,
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ali je dao bebisiterki telefon,
16:30
and she was very nice to Randolph as well.
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a i ona je bila veoma fina prema Rendolfu.
16:34
But Nico's the best reader I could hope for.
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Ali Niko je najbolji čitalac kome sam se mogao nadati.
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I would want anyone I was writing for
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Želeo bih da svi za koje sam pisao
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to be in that place emotionally
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budu emotivno na tom mestu
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with the things that I create.
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sa stvarima koje kreiram.
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I feel lucky. Kids like Nico are the best readers,
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Osećam se srećnim. Deca kao što je Niko su najbolji čitaoci,
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and they deserve the best stories we can give them.
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i zaslužuju najbolje priče koje im možemo dati.
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Thank you very much.
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Hvala vam puno.
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(Applause)
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