Mac Barnett: Why a good book is a secret door

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Hi everybody. So my name is Mac.

Pozdrav svima. Moje ime je Mac.

My job is that I lie to children,

Moj posao je lagati djeci,

but they're honest lies.

ali to su iskrene laži.

I write children's books,

Pišem dječje knjige,

and there's a quote from Pablo Picasso,

i postoji citat Pabla Picassa,

"We all know that Art is not truth.

"Svi znamo da umjetnost nije istina.

Art is a lie that makes us realize truth

Umjetnost je laž koja nam pomaže spoznati istinu

or at least the truth that is given us to understand.

ili barem istinu koju možemo razumjeti.

The artist must know the manner whereby

Umjetnik mora znati način kojim

to convince others of the truthfulness of his lies."

uvjeriti druge u istinitost svojih laži."

I first heard this when I was a kid,

Ovo sam prvo čuo kada sam bio dijete,

and I loved it,

i svidjelo mi se,

but I had no idea what it meant.

ali nisam imao pojma što znači.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

So I thought, you know what, it's what I'm here

Pa sam pomislio, znate što, danas sam ovdje

to talk to you today about, though,

da bih vam o tome pričao,

truth and lies, fiction and reality.

istina i laži, fikcija i stvarnost.

So how could I untangle

Kako mogu otpetljati

this knotted bunch of sentences?

ovu zapetljanu gomilu rečenica?

And I said, I've got PowerPoint. Let's do a Venn diagram.

I rekao sam si imam PowerPoint. Napravimo Vennov dijagram.

["Truth. Lies."] (Laughter)

["Istina. Laži."] (Smijeh)

So there it is, right there, boom.

Evo ga, točno tu, bum.

We've got truth and lies

Imamo istinu i laži

and then there's this little space,

i onda ovaj mali prostor,

the edge, in the middle.

rub, u sredini.

That liminal space, that's art.

Taj rubni prostor, to je umjetnost.

All right. Venn diagram. (Laughter) (Applause)

U redu. Vennov dijagram. (Smijeh) (Pljesak)

But that's actually not very helpful either.

Ali ni to baš puno ne pomaže.

The thing that made me understand

Ono što mi je omogućilo da shvatim

that quote and really kind of what art,

taj citat i zapravo tu vrstu umjetnosti,

at least the art of fiction, was,

barem umjetnost fikcije,

was working with kids.

bilo je raditi s djecom.

I used to be a summer camp counselor.

Bio sam savjetnik u ljetnom kampu.

I would do it on my summers off from college,

Radio sam to preko ljeta za vrijeme fakulteta,

and I loved it.

i svidjelo mi se.

It was a sports summer camp

Bio je to sportski ljetni kamp

for four- to six-year-olds.

za djecu od četiri do šest godina.

I was in charge of the four-year-olds,

Bio sam zadužen za četverogodišnjake,

which is good, because

što je dobro, jer

four-year-olds can't play sports, and neither can I.

četverogodišnjaci se ne mogu baviti sportom, kao ni ja.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

I play sports at a four-year-old level,

Bavim se sportom na razini četverogodišnjaka,

so what would happen is the kids would

i dogodilo bi se da bi djeca

dribble around some cones, and then got hot,

vodila loptu oko čunjeva, zagrijala se.

and then they would go sit underneath the tree

i onda bi sjela pod drvo

where I was already sitting — (Laughter) —

gdje sam ja već sjedio — (Smijeh) —

and I would just make up stories and tell them to them

i izmišljao bih priče i pričao im ih

and I would tell them stories about my life.

i pričao bi im priče o svom životu.

I would tell them about how, on the weekends,

Pričao bih im kako vikendom

I would go home and I would spy for the Queen of England.

idem kući i špijuniram za kraljicu Engleske.

And soon, other kids

I uskoro, druga djeca

who weren't even in my group of kids,

koja uopće nisu bila u mojoj grupi,

they would come up to me, and they would say,

dolazila bi do mene, i rekla bi,

"You're Mac Barnett, right?

"Ti si Mac Barnett, zar ne?

You're the guy who spies for the Queen of England."

Ti si tip koji špijunira za Kraljicu Engleske."

And I had been waiting my whole life for strangers

I čekao sam cijeli život da mi stranci

to come up and ask me that question.

priđu i postave to pitanje.

In my fantasy, they were svelte Russian women,

U mojoj fantaziji, to su bile graciozne Ruskinje,

but, you know, four-year-olds —

ali znate, četverogodišnjaci —

you take what you can get in Berkeley, California.

uzmete što možete u Berkeleyu, California.

And I realized that the stories that I was telling

Shvatio sam da priče koje pričam

were real in this way that was familiar to me

su stvarne na način koji mi je bio poznat

and really exciting.

i zaista uzbudljive.

I think the pinnacle of this for me — I'll never forget this —

Mislim da je vrhunac ovoga za mene — Ovo neću nikad zaboraviti —

there was this little girl named Riley. She was tiny,

bila mala djevojčica imena Riley. Bila je sitna

and she used to always take out her lunch every day

i uvijek je vadila svoj ručak

and she would throw out her fruit.

i bacila bi svoje voće.

She would just take her fruit,

Uzela bi voće,

her mom packed her a melon every day,

mama joj je pakirala dinju,

and she would just throw it in the ivy

i bacila bi je u bršljan

and then she would eat fruit snacks

i onda bi jela grickalice od voća

and pudding cups, and I was like, "Riley,

i puding, i rekao sam joj, "Riley,

you can't do that, you have to eat the fruit."

ne možeš to raditi, moraš jesti voće."

And she was like, "Why?"

I pitala me, "Zašto?"

And I was like, "Well, when you throw the fruit in the ivy,

I ja sam rekao, "Pa kako bacaš voće u bršljan,

pretty soon, it's going to be overgrown with melons,"

uskoro će biti pun dinja",

which is why I think I ended up

zbog čega mislim da sam završio

telling stories to children and not being a nutritionist for children.

pričajući priče djeci a ne kao nutricionist za djecu.

And so Riley was like, "That will never happen.

I Riley je rekla: "To se nikad neće dogoditi.

That's not going to happen."

To se neće dogoditi".

And so, on the last day of camp,

I tako sam zadnjeg dana u kampu,

I got up early and I got a big cantaloupe

ustao se rano i uzeo svarno veliku dinju

from the grocery store

iz trgovine namirnicama

and I hid it in the ivy,

i sakrio je u bršljan,

and then at lunchtime, I was like,

i za vrijeme ručka rekao sam,

"Riley, why don't you go over there and see what you've done."

"Riley, zašto ne odeš tamo i pogledaš što si učinila."

And — (Laughter) —

I — (Smijeh) —

she went trudging through the ivy, and then her eyes

kopala je po bršljanu, i onda su njene oči

just got so wide, and she pointed out this melon

postale tako raširene, i pokazala je dinju

that was bigger than her head,

veću od njene glave,

and then all the kids ran over there and rushed around her,

i sva djeca su dotrčala i okupila se oko nje,

and one of the kids was like, "Hey,

i jedno dijete je reklo, "Hej,

why is there a sticker on this?"

zašto je cijena na ovome?"

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

And I was like, "That is also why I say

I ja sam rekao, "To je razlog zašto govorim

do not throw your stickers in the ivy.

ne bacajte svoje naljepnice u bršljan.

Put them in the trash can. It ruins nature when you do this."

Bacajte ih u kantu. Ovako uništavate prirodu."

And Riley carried that melon around with her all day,

I Riley je sa sobom nosila dinju čitav dan,

and she was so proud.

i bila je tako ponosna.

And Riley knew she didn't grow a melon in seven days,

I Riley je znala da nije uzgojila dinju u sedam dana,

but she also knew that she did,

ali je isto tako znala da jest,

and it's a weird place,

i to je čudno mjesto,

but it's not just a place that kids can get to.

ali nije samo mjesto za djecu.

It's anything. Art can get us to that place.

To je bilo što. Umjetnost nas tamo može odvesti.

She was right in that place in the middle,

Bila je točno na tom mjestu u sredini,

that place which you could call art or fiction.

tom mjestu koje možete zvati umjetnost ili fikcija.

I'm going to call it wonder.

Nazvat ću to čudo.

It's what Coleridge called the willing suspension of disbelief

To je ono što je Coleridge nazvao suspenzija nevjerovanja,

or poetic faith,

ili poetska vjera,

for those moments where a story, no matter how strange,

za one trenutke kada priča, kako god čudna bila,

has some semblance of the truth,

ima neke sličnosti s istinom,

and then you're able to believe it.

i onda možete u nju vjerovati.

It's not just kids who can get there.

Nisu samo djeca ta koja mogu doći tamo.

Adults can too, and we get there when we read.

Odrasli također mogu, i to postižemo čitanjem.

It's why in two days, people will be

Zato će za dva dana ljudi

descending on Dublin to take the walking tour

stići u Dublin da bi prošetali turom

of Bloomsday and see everything that happened in "Ulysses,"

Bloomsdaya i vidjeli sve što se dogodilo u "Uliksu",

even though none of that happened.

iako se to nije dogodilo.

Or people go to London and they visit Baker Street

Ili ljudi idu u London i posjete Baker Street

to see Sherlock Holmes' apartment,

da vide stan Sherlocka Holmesa,

even though 221B is just a number that was painted

iako je 221B samo broj koji je napisan

on a building that never actually had that address.

na zgradu koja nikad nije imala tu adresu.

We know these characters aren't real,

Znamo da ti likovi nisu stvarni,

but we have real feelings about them,

ali imamo stvarne osjećaje o njima,

and we're able to do that.

i možemo to napraviti.

We know these characters aren't real,

Znamo da ti likovi nisu stvarni,

and yet we also know that they are.

a također znamo i da jesu.

Kids can get there a lot more easily than adults can,

Djeca tamo mogu doći lakše od odraslih,

and that's why I love writing for kids.

i zato volim pisati za djecu.

I think kids are the best audience

Mislim da su djeca najbolja publika

for serious literary fiction.

za ozbiljnu književnu fikciju.

When I was a kid,

Kada sam bio dijete,

I was obsessed with secret door novels,

bio sam opsjednut knjigama o tajnim vratima,

things like "Narnia,"

stvari kao "Narnia,"

where you would open a wardrobe and go through to a magical land.

gdje bi otvorili ormar i ušli u čarobnu zemlju.

And I was convinced that secret doors really did exist

I bio sam uvjeren da tajna vrata zaista postoje

and I would look for them and try to go through them.

i tražio bi ih i pokušao proći kroz njih.

I wanted to live and cross over into that fictional world, which is —

Želio sam živjeti i preći u taj fikcijski svijet, koji je

I would always just open people's closet doors. (Laughter)

Otvarao bih ljudima vrata ormara. (Smijeh)

I would just go through my mom's boyfriend's closet,

Gledao bih u ormar dečka moje majke,

and there was not a secret magical land there.

i tamo nije bilo tajne čarobne zemlje ondje.

There was some other weird stuff that I think my mom should know about.

Bilo je drugih čudnih stvari za koje mislim da bi majka trebala znati.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

And I was happy to tell her all about it.

I bio sam sretan reći joj sve o tome.

After college, my first job was working

Poslije fakulteta, moj prvi posao bio je

behind one of these secret doors.

raditi iza tih tajnih vrata.

This is a place called 826 Valencia.

Ovo je mjesto imena 826 Valencia.

It's at 826 Valencia Street

To je u Valencia ulici 826

in the Mission in San Francisco,

u Misiji u San Franciscu,

and when I worked there, there was a publishing company

i kad sam tamo radio, ondje je bila smještena

headquartered there called McSweeney's,

itdavačka kuća imena McSweeney's,

a nonprofit writing center called 826 Valencia,

neprofitni centar za pisanje imena 826 Valencia,

but then the front of it

ali ispred

was a strange shop.

nalazila se čudna trgovina.

You see, this place was zoned retail,

Vidite, ovo je bila trgovinska zona,

and in San Francisco, they were not going to give us a variance,

i u San Franciscu, nisu radili iznimke,

and so the writer who founded it, a writer named Dave Eggers,

i tako je pisac koji ih je osnovao, pisac imena Dave Eggers,

to come into compliance with code, he said, "Fine,

da bi se uskladio s pravilima, rekao je: "U redu,

I'm just going to build a pirate supply store."

otvorit ću trgovinu sa namirnicima za pirate."

And that's what he did. (Laughter)

I to je učinio. (Smijeh)

And it's beautiful. It's all wood.

I prekrasno je. Cijela u drvu.

There's drawers you can pull out and get citrus

Imate ladice koje možete otvoriti i uzeti limun

so you don't get scurvy.

da ne dobijete skorbut.

They have eyepatches in lots of colors,

Imaju poveze za oči u puno boja,

because when it's springtime, pirates want to go wild.

jer kada je proljeće, gusari žele podivljati.

You don't know. Black is boring. Pastel.

Ne znate. Crna je dosadna. Pastelna.

Or eyes, also in lots of colors,

Ili oči, također u mnogo boja,

just glass eyes, depending on how you want

staklenih očiju, ovisno o tome

to deal with that situation.

kako se želite nositi sa situacijom.

And the store, strangely,

I trgovina, začudo,

people came to them and bought things,

ljudi su došli i kupovali stvari,

and they ended up paying the rent

i na kraju su platili stanarinu

for our tutoring center, which was behind it,

za naš centar za podučavanje, koji je bio iza trgovine.

but to me, more important was the fact

ali za mene je važnija bila činjenica

that I think the quality of work you do,

da mislim da kvaliteta posla koji činite,

kids would come and get instruction in writing,

djeca bi došla i dobila poduku iz pisanja,

and when you have to walk this weird, liminal, fictional space like this to go do your writing,

i kad morate prošetati čudnim, graničnim, fikcijskim prostorom da biste pisali,

it's going to affect the kind of work that you make.

to će utjecati na vrstu rada koji stvarate.

It's a secret door that you can walk through.

To su tajna vrata kroz koja možete proći.

So I ran the 826 in Los Angeles,

Vodio sam 826 u Los Angelesu,

and it was my job to build the store down there.

i bio je moj posao da izgradim tu trgovinu dolje.

So we have The Echo Park Time Travel Mart.

Tako da imamo Trgovinu Putovanja kroz vrijeme Echo Park.

That's our motto: "Whenever you are, we're already then."

To je naš moto, "Kad god ste vi, mi smo već tada."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

And it's on Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles.

I nalazi se na Sunset Bulevaru u Los Angelesu.

Our friendly staff is ready to help you.

Naše prijateljsko osoblje spremno je pomoći vam.

They're from all eras,

Oni su iz svih era,

including just the 1980s, that guy on the end,

ukljućujući i 1980-te, onaj tip na kraju,

he's from the very recent past.

on je iz nedavne prošlosti.

There's our Employees of the Month,

Ono su naši zaposlenici mjeseca,

including Genghis Khan, Charles Dickens.

uključujući Džingis Kana, Charlesa Dickensa.

Some great people have come up through our ranks.

Neki veliki ljudi prošli su kroz naše redove.

This is our kind of pharmacy section.

Ovo je naša farmacijska sekcija.

We have some patent medicines,

Imamo patentirane lijekove,

Canopic jars for your organs,

Kanpoejske posude za organe,

communist soap that says,

komunistički sapun koji kaže:

"This is your soap for the year." (Laughter)

"Ovo je tvoj sapun za ovu godinu." (Smijeh)

Our slushy machine broke

Naš aparat za ledeni sok se pokvario

on the opening night and we didn't know what to do.

na večer otvaranja i nismo znali što činiti.

Our architect was covered in red syrup.

Naš arhitekt bio je pokriven crvenim sirupom.

It looked like he had just murdered somebody,

Izgledalo je kao da je upravo nekoga ubio.

which it was not out of the question

što nije bilo isključeno

for this particular architect,

za ovog arhitekta,

and we didn't know what to do.

i nismo znali što učiniti.

It was going to be the highlight of our store.

To je trebala biti atrakcija.

So we just put that sign on it that said,

Tako da smo stavili znak koji kaže,

"Out of order. Come back yesterday." (Laughter)

"Ne radi. Dođite jučer." (Smijeh)

And that ended up being a better joke than slushies,

I to je na kraju bila bolja šala od soka,

so we just left it there forever.

tako da smo je ostavili ondje zauvijek.

Mammoth Chunks. These things weigh, like, seven pounds each.

Komadi mamuta. Ove stvari su teške tri kilograma svaka.

Barbarian repellent. It's full of salad

Rastjerivač barbara. Pun je salate

and potpourri — things that barbarians hate.

i potpurija — stvari koje barbari mrze.

Dead languages.

Mrtvi jezici.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Leeches, nature's tiny doctors.

Pijavice, maleni doktori iz prirode.

And Viking Odorant, which comes in lots of great scents:

I Vikinški dezodorans, koji dolazi u puno odličnih vrsta:

toenails, sweat and rotten vegetables, pyre ash.

nožni nokti, znoj i pokvareno povrće, pepeo s lomače.

Because we believe that Axe Body Spray

Jer vjerujemo da Axe (sjekira) sprej za tijelo

is something that you should only find on the battlefield,

je nešto što trebate naći samo na bojištu,

not under your arms. (Laughter)

ne ispod vaših ruku. (Smijeh)

And these are robot emotion chips,

I ovo su emocijski čipovi robota,

so robots can feel love or fear.

tako da roboti mogu osjetiti ljubav ili strah.

Our biggest seller is Schadenfreude,

Najprodavaniji je zluradost,

which we did not expect.

što nismo očekivali.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

We did not think that was going to happen.

Nismo mislili da će se to dogoditi.

But there's a nonprofit behind it,

Ali iza toga je neprofitna udruga,

and kids go through a door that says "Employees Only"

i djeca prođu kroz vrata "Samo za zaposlenike"

and they end up in this space

i završe u ovom prostoru

where they do homework and write stories

gdje rade zadaću i pišu priče

and make films and this is a book release party

i rade filmove i ovo je zabava zbog objave knjige

where kids will read.

gdje će djeca čitati.

There's a quarterly that's published

Postoji tromjesečnik koji se objavljuje

with just writing that's done by the kids

sa radovima koje pišu djeca

who come every day after school,

koja dolaze poslije škole,

and we have release parties

i imamo zabave objavljivanja

and they eat cake and read for their parents

i jedu kolače i čitaju svojim roditeljima

and drink milk out of champagne glasses.

i piju mlijeko iz čaša za šampanjac.

And it's a very special space,

I to je vrlo posebno mjesto,

because it's this weird space in the front.

jer je to ovaj čudni prostor ispred.

The joke isn't a joke.

Šala nije šala.

You can't find the seams on the fiction,

Ne možete naći šavove fikcije,

and I love that. It's this little bit of fiction

i volim to. To je ta mala količina fikcije

that's colonized the real world.

koja je kolonizrala stvarni svijet.

I see it as kind of a book in three dimensions.

Vidim to kao knjigu u tri dimenzije.

There's a term called metafiction,

Postoji termin koji se zove metafikcija,

and that's just stories about stories,

i to su samo priče o pričama,

and meta's having a moment now.

i meta sada ima svoj trenutak.

Its last big moment was probably in the 1960s

Njen posljednji veliki trenutak je bio 1960.

with novelists like John Barth and William Gaddis,

sa piscima kao John Barth i William Gaddis,

but it's been around.

ali postoji.

It's almost as old as storytelling itself.

Stara je kao i pričanje priča.

And one metafictive technique

I jedna metafikcijska tehnika

is breaking the fourth wall. Right?

je razbijanje četvrtog zida. Zar ne?

It's when an actor will turn to the audience

To je trenutak kada se glumac okrene publici

and say, "I am an actor,

i kaže, "Ja sam glumac,

these are just rafters."

a ovo su samo daske."

And even that supposedly honest moment,

I taj navodno iskreni trenutak,

I would argue, is in service of the lie,

rekao bih, je u službi laži,

but it's supposed to foreground the artificiality

ali treba najaviti umjetnost

of the fiction.

fikcije.

For me, I kind of prefer the opposite.

Za mene, ja volim obrnuto.

If I'm going to break down the fourth wall,

Kako bih srušio četvrti zid,

I want fiction to escape

želim da fikcija pobjegne

and come into the real world.

i dođe u stvarni svijet.

I want a book to be a secret door that opens

Želim da knjige budu tajna vrata koja se otvaraju

and lets the stories out into reality.

i puštaju priče u našu stvarnost.

And so I try to do this in my books.

Tako da to pokušavam činiti u svojim knjigama.

And here's just one example.

I ovdje je samo jedan primjer.

This is the first book that I ever made.

Ovo je prva knjiga koju sam napravio.

It's called "Billy Twitters and his Blue Whale Problem."

Zove se "Billy Twitters i njegovi problemi s plavetnim kitom."

And it's about a kid who gets a blue whale as a pet

Radi se o dječaku koji dobije plavetnog kita za ljubimca

but it's a punishment

ali to je kazna

and it ruins his life.

i uništava mu život.

So it's delivered overnight by FedUp.

Dostavljen je preko noći putem FedUp-a.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

And he has to take it to school with him.

I mora ga voditi u školu.

He lives in San Francisco —

Živi u San Franciscu —

very tough city to own a blue whale in.

gadan grad za imati plavetnog kita.

A lot of hills, real estate is at a premium.

Puno brda, skupe nekretnine.

This market's crazy, everybody.

Ovo tržište je ludo.

But underneath the jacket is this case,

Ali ispod korica je ovo spremište,

and that's the cover underneath the book, the jacket,

i to su korice ispod knjige,

and there's an ad

i tu je oglas

that offers a free 30-day risk-free trial

koji nudi probni rok od 30 dana

for a blue whale.

za plavetnog kita.

And you can just send in a self-addressed stamped envelope

I možete samo poslati adresiranu omotnicu

and we'll send you a whale.

i poslat ćemo vam kita.

And kids do write in.

I djeca pišu.

So here's a letter. It says, "Dear people,

Ovdje je pismo. Kaže: "Dragi ljudi,

I bet you 10 bucks you won't send me a blue whale.

kladim se u 10 dolara da mi nećete poslati plavetnog kita.

Eliot Gannon (age 6)."

Eliot Gannon (6 godina)."

(Laughter) (Applause)

(Smijeh) (Pljesak)

So what Eliot and the other kids

To što Eliot i druga djeca

who send these in get back

koja šalju ta pisma dobiju

is a letter in very small print from a Norwegian law firm —

je pismo sitnih slova od pravne tvrtke iz Norveške —

(Laughter) —

(Smijeh) —

that says that due to a change in customs laws,

koje kaže da zbog promjene u carinskim zakonima,

their whale has been held up in Sognefjord,

njihov kit zaglavio je u Sogenfjordu,

which is a very lovely fjord,

koji je zaista lijep fjord,

and then it just kind of talks about Sognefjord

i onda priča o Sogenfjordu

and Norwegian food for a little while. It digresses.

i norveškoj hrani neko vrijeme. Odvlači im pažnju.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

But it finishes off by saying that

Ali završava govoreći da

your whale would love to hear from you.

bi vas vaš kit volio čuti.

He's got a phone number,

Ima broj telefona,

and you can call and leave him a message.

i možete ga nazvati i ostaviti mu poruku.

And when you call and leave him a message,

I kada ga nazovete i ostavite mu poruku,

you just, on the outgoing message,

samo, to je odlazna poruka,

it's just whale sounds and then a beep,

to su zvuci kita i onda beep,

which actually sounds a lot like a whale sound.

koji zapravo zvuči kao zvuk kita.

And they get a picture of their whale too.

I dobiju fotografiju svog kita.

So this is Randolph,

Ovo je Randolph,

and Randolph belongs to a kid named Nico

i Randolph pripada dječaku imena Nico

who was one of the first kids to ever call in,

koji je jedan od prvih koji je nazvao,

and I'll play you some of Nico's message.

i pustit ću vam neke njegove poruke.

This is the first message I ever got from Nico.

Ovo je prva poruka koju sam dobio od Nicoa.

(Audio) Nico: Hello, this is Nico.

(Audio) Nico: Zdravo, ovdje Nico.

I am your owner, Randolph. Hello.

Ja sam tvoj vlasnik Randolphe. Zdravo.

So this is the first time I can ever talk to you,

Ovo je prvi put da mogu pričati s tobom,

and I might talk to you soon another day. Bye.

i možda ću jednog dana ponovno. Zdravo.

Mac Barnett: So Nico called back, like, an hour later.

Mac Barnett: Tako je Nico nazvao ponovno, za sat vremena.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

And here's another one of Nico's messages.

I ovdje je još jedna Nicoova poruka.

(Audio) Nico: Hello, Randolph, this is Nico.

(Audio) Nico: Zdravo Randolphe, Nico ovdje.

I haven't talked to you for a long time,

Nismo dugo pričali,

but I talked to you on Saturday or Sunday,

ali pričao sam s tobom u subotu ili nedjelju,

yeah, Saturday or Sunday,

da, subotu i nedjelju,

so now I'm calling you again

tako da te ponovno zovem

to say hello and I wonder what you're doing right now,

da bih te pozdravio i zanima me što sada radiš,

and I'm going to probably call you again

i vjerojatno ću te zvati ponovno

tomorrow or today,

sutra ili danas,

so I'll talk to you later. Bye.

tako da se čujemo kasnije. Zdravo.

MB: So he did, he called back that day again.

MB: I tako je nazvao ponovno taj dan.

He's left over 25 messages for Randolph

Ostavio je 25 poruka za Randolpha

over four years.

u ove četiri godine.

You find out all about him

Saznate sve o njemu

and the grandma that he loves

i baki koju voli

and the grandma that he likes a little bit less —

i baki koju voli nešto manje —

(Laughter) —

(Smijeh) —

and the crossword puzzles that he does,

i križaljke koje rješava,

and this is — I'll play you one more message from Nico.

i ovo je — pustit ću vam još jednu poruku od Nicoa.

This is the Christmas message from Nico.

Ovo je Božićna poruka od Nicoa.

[Beep] (Audio) Nico: Hello, Randolph,

[Beep] (Audio) Nico: Zdravo, Randolphe,

sorry I haven't talked to you in a long time.

žao mi je što nismo dugo pričali.

It's just that I've been so busy

Ali bio sam zauzet

because school started,

jer je škola počela,

as you might not know, probably,

kao što možda znaš, vjerojatno,

since you're a whale, you don't know,

ne znaš zato što si kit,

and I'm calling you to just say,

i zovem te samo kako bih ti rekao,

to wish you a merry Christmas.

kako bih ti zaželio sretan Božić.

So have a nice Christmas,

Imaj lijep Božić,

and bye-bye, Randolph. Goodbye.

i bok, Randolphe. Zbogom.

MB: I actually got Nico,

MB: Zapravo dobio sam Nicoa,

I hadn't heard from in 18 months,

nismo se čuli 18 mjeseci,

and he just left a message two days ago.

i ostavio je poruku prije dva dana.

His voice is completely different,

Njegov glas je skroz drugačiji,

but he put his babysitter on the phone,

ali dao je telefon dadilji,

and she was very nice to Randolph as well.

i ona je isto bila vrlo ljubazna prema Randolphu.

But Nico's the best reader I could hope for.

Ali Nico je najbolji čitatelj kojem se mogu nadati.

I would want anyone I was writing for

Htio bih da svatko za koga pišem

to be in that place emotionally

bude na tom emocionalnom mjestu

with the things that I create.

sa stvarima koje stvaram.

I feel lucky. Kids like Nico are the best readers,

Sretan sam. Djeca poput Nicoa su najbolji čitatelji,

and they deserve the best stories we can give them.

i ona zaslužuju najbolje priče koje im možemo dati.

Thank you very much.

Hvala vam puno.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)