Mac Barnett: Why a good book is a secret door

翻译人员: Melody Tang 校对人员: Wei Wu

Hi everybody. So my name is Mac.

大家好，我叫麦克

My job is that I lie to children,

我的工作就是欺骗小孩子

but they're honest lies.

不过都是善意的谎言

I write children's books,

我创作儿童文学

and there's a quote from Pablo Picasso,

巴勃罗·毕加索曾有一句名言

"We all know that Art is not truth.

“我们都知道艺术并非真理

Art is a lie that makes us realize truth

艺术是能使我们意识到真理的谎言

or at least the truth that is given us to understand.

或者至少使我们意识到 我们能认同的真理

The artist must know the manner whereby

艺术家必须懂得一些方法

to convince others of the truthfulness of his lies."

来使人们信服他谎言中的真实”

I first heard this when I was a kid,

第一次听到这话的时候，我还是个小孩

and I loved it,

那时就很喜欢这个说法

but I had no idea what it meant.

但是我不知道他说的是啥意思

(Laughter)

（笑声）

So I thought, you know what, it's what I'm here

你知道吗，这是我今天要讲的

to talk to you today about, though,

真理与谎言

truth and lies, fiction and reality.

虚构与现实

So how could I untangle

那我到底该如何理解

this knotted bunch of sentences?

这段令人匪夷所思的话呢

And I said, I've got PowerPoint. Let's do a Venn diagram.

不如用 PowerPoint 来做个文氏图吧

["Truth. Lies."] (Laughter)

［“真实” “谎言”］ （笑声）

So there it is, right there, boom.

就是这个，很棒吧？

We've got truth and lies

有真实和谎言两部分

and then there's this little space,

还有两个边缘交界

the edge, in the middle.

那个中间的地方

That liminal space, that's art.

那就是艺术

All right. Venn diagram. (Laughter) (Applause)

嗯，文氏图（笑声）（掌声）

But that's actually not very helpful either.

但是这好像也不是很有用

The thing that made me understand

使我理解这段话的

that quote and really kind of what art,

以及真正使我对艺术——

at least the art of fiction, was,

或者至少是小说的艺术 有所理解的

was working with kids.

就是为孩子们工作的时候

I used to be a summer camp counselor.

我曾是夏令营的指导老师

I would do it on my summers off from college,

我在大学暑假时担任这种工作

and I loved it.

也很喜爱这个工作

It was a sports summer camp

那是一个为4到6岁的孩子们

for four- to six-year-olds.

举办的运动夏令营

I was in charge of the four-year-olds,

我负责带领四岁的孩子

which is good, because

那很棒，因为

four-year-olds can't play sports, and neither can I.

四岁的孩子还不会运动 正巧我也不会

(Laughter)

（笑声）

I play sports at a four-year-old level,

我就搞四岁小孩儿级别的运动

so what would happen is the kids would

实际情况就是

dribble around some cones, and then got hot,

孩子们绕着交通锥运球 玩得大汗淋漓

and then they would go sit underneath the tree

然后他们去树下面休息

where I was already sitting — (Laughter) —

结果我早就在那儿坐着了 —（笑声）—

and I would just make up stories and tell them to them

我会编故事讲给他们听

and I would tell them stories about my life.

也会给他们编造关于我的故事

I would tell them about how, on the weekends,

我告诉他们，我周末回到家以后

I would go home and I would spy for the Queen of England.

为英国女王做秘密侦查

And soon, other kids

很快，其他有些

who weren't even in my group of kids,

不在我组里的孩子

they would come up to me, and they would say,

也会到我这儿来，然后说

"You're Mac Barnett, right?

“你就是麦克·巴耐特，对吧？

You're the guy who spies for the Queen of England."

那个暗中为英国女王做侦查的家伙？”

And I had been waiting my whole life for strangers

我这一生都在热切期盼着

to come up and ask me that question.

能有陌生人来问我这个问题

In my fantasy, they were svelte Russian women,

在我的幻想中， 她们应该是苗条的俄罗斯女人

but, you know, four-year-olds —

但是，你们懂的，四岁的孩子——

you take what you can get in Berkeley, California.

在加州的伯克利还有什么好奢求的呢

And I realized that the stories that I was telling

然后我意识到，这些故事

were real in this way that was familiar to me

在以我熟悉的方式讲给孩子们时

and really exciting.

变得无比真实且振奋人心

I think the pinnacle of this for me — I'll never forget this —

这件事达到顶峰的契机—— 我永远不会忘记这件事——

there was this little girl named Riley. She was tiny,

我的组里有个叫莱利的小女孩，小个子

and she used to always take out her lunch every day

她总是每天把午饭拿出来

and she would throw out her fruit.

然后把里面的水果扔掉

She would just take her fruit,

她拿出水果

her mom packed her a melon every day,

她妈妈每天给她装一个甜瓜

and she would just throw it in the ivy

但是她把它扔进藤蔓丛里

and then she would eat fruit snacks

然后吃水果零食和布丁

and pudding cups, and I was like, "Riley,

我对她说：“莱利

you can't do that, you have to eat the fruit."

你不能那样。必须把水果吃掉”

And she was like, "Why?"

她问“为什么？”

And I was like, "Well, when you throw the fruit in the ivy,

我就说：“嗯， 你要是把甜瓜扔到藤蔓丛那儿

pretty soon, it's going to be overgrown with melons,"

那里很快就会长满一整片的甜瓜”

which is why I think I ended up

这就是为啥我后来成为

telling stories to children and not being a nutritionist for children.

儿童故事书的作者， 而不是成为孩子们的营养师了

And so Riley was like, "That will never happen.

莱利说：“那种事不会发生的

That's not going to happen."

绝对不可能”

And so, on the last day of camp,

因此，夏令营的最后一天

I got up early and I got a big cantaloupe

我早早起床

from the grocery store

到杂货店买了一个大哈密瓜

and I hid it in the ivy,

把它藏进了藤蔓丛里

and then at lunchtime, I was like,

午饭时间，我说

"Riley, why don't you go over there and see what you've done."

“莱利，你真该看看你都做了些什么”

And — (Laughter) —

然后— (笑声) —

she went trudging through the ivy, and then her eyes

她吃力地穿过藤蔓

just got so wide, and she pointed out this melon

然后一下瞪大眼睛

that was bigger than her head,

发现了这个比她的脑袋都大的哈密瓜

and then all the kids ran over there and rushed around her,

之后所有的孩子都跑过去 簇拥在她四周

and one of the kids was like, "Hey,

其中一个孩子突然叫道

why is there a sticker on this?"

“嘿，哈密瓜上面为什么粘着个标签？”

(Laughter)

（笑声）

And I was like, "That is also why I say

我就说：“这就是为什么

do not throw your stickers in the ivy.

我也不让你们把标签扔进藤蔓丛里

Put them in the trash can. It ruins nature when you do this."

要把它们丢进垃圾桶 乱丢的话会破坏环境”

And Riley carried that melon around with her all day,

莱利一整天都带着那个哈密瓜

and she was so proud.

她无比自豪

And Riley knew she didn't grow a melon in seven days,

莱利知道她无法在七天内种出哈密瓜来

but she also knew that she did,

但她也知道她确实做到了

and it's a weird place,

那是个不可思议的区域

but it's not just a place that kids can get to.

然而它并不是只有孩子才能做到

It's anything. Art can get us to that place.

我们都可以。我们可借助艺术到达那里

She was right in that place in the middle,

她就是在真实与谎言的交界处

that place which you could call art or fiction.

在可以被称之为艺术或虚构的区域里

I'm going to call it wonder.

我更愿意称这个区域为“奇迹”

It's what Coleridge called the willing suspension of disbelief

这就是柯尔律治所说的 ”自愿悬置怀疑“

or poetic faith,

或者说，“诗意的信仰”

for those moments where a story, no matter how strange,

意思是说对于一个拥有真实表象的故事

has some semblance of the truth,

不管它有多奇怪

and then you're able to believe it.

你都能够相信

It's not just kids who can get there.

不是只有孩子们能做到

Adults can too, and we get there when we read.

大人也可以，我们可以通过阅读做到

It's why in two days, people will be

这就是为什么在两天內

descending on Dublin to take the walking tour

人们涌入都柏林 来一场“布鲁姆日”的远足

of Bloomsday and see everything that happened in "Ulysses,"

见证《尤利西斯》的故事里发生的一切

even though none of that happened.

尽管那些事情从未发生过

Or people go to London and they visit Baker Street

人们也去伦敦，造访贝克街

to see Sherlock Holmes' apartment,

看看夏洛克·福尔摩斯的公寓

even though 221B is just a number that was painted

尽管221B 只是一个被涂在建筑物上的编号

on a building that never actually had that address.

那个门牌号也从未存在过

We know these characters aren't real,

我们知道这些角色不是真实的

but we have real feelings about them,

但是我们会对他们产生真实的感情

and we're able to do that.

我们可以做到

We know these characters aren't real,

我们知道这些角色不是真实的

and yet we also know that they are.

然而我们也相信他们是真的

Kids can get there a lot more easily than adults can,

孩子们比大人容易做到这一点

and that's why I love writing for kids.

这就是我热爱创作儿童文学的原因

I think kids are the best audience

我认为对于虚构的文学作品来说

for serious literary fiction.

孩子们是最好的读者

When I was a kid,

我还是个孩子的时候

I was obsessed with secret door novels,

我一直对“秘密之门”的那类小说无比着迷

things like "Narnia,"

比如说《纳尼亚传奇》（Narnia）

where you would open a wardrobe and go through to a magical land.

在故事里， 穿过衣橱的柜门就能进入魔幻世界

And I was convinced that secret doors really did exist

我那时坚信那样的秘密之门确实存在

and I would look for them and try to go through them.

我尝试着寻找它们 梦想着进入秘密之门

I wanted to live and cross over into that fictional world, which is —

我想穿越那个虚构的世界——

I would always just open people's closet doors. (Laughter)

其实我就是去开人家的衣柜门 （笑声）

I would just go through my mom's boyfriend's closet,

我尝试翻遍我妈妈的男朋友的衣柜

and there was not a secret magical land there.

里面没有藏着秘密的魔幻世界

There was some other weird stuff that I think my mom should know about.

但是却有些奇怪的玩意儿 我觉得我妈妈应该知道

(Laughter)

（笑声）

And I was happy to tell her all about it.

我很乐意把那些玩意儿告诉妈妈

After college, my first job was working

大学毕业后 我的第一份工作

behind one of these secret doors.

就是在“秘密之门”后面做事

This is a place called 826 Valencia.

这地方叫"826瓦伦西亚" （826 Valencia）

It's at 826 Valencia Street

它坐落于瓦伦西亚街826号

in the Mission in San Francisco,

位于旧金山的山米逊区

and when I worked there, there was a publishing company

我在那里工作的时候 有一家出版公司

headquartered there called McSweeney's,

在那里设立总部 名叫麦克斯维尼（McSweeney's）

a nonprofit writing center called 826 Valencia,

一家非营利的写作中心 名叫“826瓦伦西亚”

but then the front of it

但是它的前方

was a strange shop.

是一家奇怪的小商店

You see, this place was zoned retail,

你们知道 那里是零售店区

and in San Francisco, they were not going to give us a variance,

在旧金山，他们不可能为我们开例

and so the writer who founded it, a writer named Dave Eggers,

开这家店的是一个 名叫戴夫·埃格斯的作家

to come into compliance with code, he said, "Fine,

为了遵守规范 他说：“好

I'm just going to build a pirate supply store."

我就在这儿开家海盗用品商店吧”

And that's what he did. (Laughter)

他真的就这么做了（笑声）

And it's beautiful. It's all wood.

店里很漂亮，全木的

There's drawers you can pull out and get citrus

拉开抽屉就能找到柑橘

so you don't get scurvy.

吃了它可以防止坏血病

They have eyepatches in lots of colors,

他们有五颜六色的眼罩

because when it's springtime, pirates want to go wild.

因为海盗们一到春天就想疯一下

You don't know. Black is boring. Pastel.

你们不会知道 黑色多无聊啊 寡淡无味

Or eyes, also in lots of colors,

还有五颜六色的假眼珠子，

just glass eyes, depending on how you want

玻璃做的，（戴哪个）取决于你要如何处理

to deal with that situation.

要面对的情况

And the store, strangely,

关于那个商店最奇怪的是

people came to them and bought things,

人们居然来买东西

and they ended up paying the rent

后来，店铺的收入

for our tutoring center, which was behind it,

足够为店铺后面的辅导中心支付租金

but to me, more important was the fact

但对我来说，更重要的是

that I think the quality of work you do,

工作的质量

kids would come and get instruction in writing,

孩子们来学习写作

and when you have to walk this weird, liminal, fictional space like this to go do your writing,

在你经过像这样的真实与虚构的交界处， 然后写作的时候

it's going to affect the kind of work that you make.

你的作品一定会受到影响

It's a secret door that you can walk through.

这是一扇你可以穿越的“秘密之门”

So I ran the 826 in Los Angeles,

因此，我在洛杉矶为“826”工作

and it was my job to build the store down there.

我的活儿就是打理那儿的一间小店铺

So we have The Echo Park Time Travel Mart.

店名叫“回声公园·时间旅行商店”

That's our motto: "Whenever you are, we're already then."

我们还有个格言 “无论什么时代，我们都已去过了”

(Laughter)

（笑声）

And it's on Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles.

它坐落于洛杉矶的日落大道

Our friendly staff is ready to help you.

我们友好的员工随时恭候

They're from all eras,

他们来自不同时代

including just the 1980s, that guy on the end,

包括1980年代。 就是站在最后面的那个家伙

he's from the very recent past.

他所处的时代并不久远

There's our Employees of the Month,

这是我们的“本月优秀员工”

including Genghis Khan, Charles Dickens.

名单上有成吉思汗、查尔斯•狄更斯

Some great people have come up through our ranks.

有些伟人都上了我们的榜

This is our kind of pharmacy section.

这是我们的药品区

We have some patent medicines,

我们有些专利药品

Canopic jars for your organs,

有用来装人体器官的“卡诺卜坛”

communist soap that says,

还有“共产主义肥皂”，上面标着

"This is your soap for the year." (Laughter)

“这就是你今年的肥皂” （笑声）

Our slushy machine broke

店铺开张的第一天晚上， 我们的冰沙机坏掉了

on the opening night and we didn't know what to do.

我们不知道怎么办才好

Our architect was covered in red syrup.

我们的设计师身上被溅满了红色的糖浆

It looked like he had just murdered somebody,

看起来就像他刚杀了人，全身都是血迹

which it was not out of the question

就这个人而言

for this particular architect,

其实也不是不可能

and we didn't know what to do.

我们束手无策

It was going to be the highlight of our store.

本来这台机器是我们店里的亮点

So we just put that sign on it that said,

所以我们就给它挂上了这个指示牌

"Out of order. Come back yesterday." (Laughter)

“故障，请昨天再来” （笑声）

And that ended up being a better joke than slushies,

结果它成为了一个 比冰沙更棒的笑料

so we just left it there forever.

所以我们一直保留着那个指示牌

Mammoth Chunks. These things weigh, like, seven pounds each.

“長毛象肉块” 每罐的重量差不多7磅

Barbarian repellent. It's full of salad

“野人驱除剂”

and potpourri — things that barbarians hate.

装满了沙拉和百花香—野人最恨这个了

Dead languages.

［拉丁文］［古埃及文］ 死语言

(Laughter)

（笑声）

Leeches, nature's tiny doctors.

水蛭：“大自然的小医生”

And Viking Odorant, which comes in lots of great scents:

还有“维京气味”， 里面混合了好几种很赞的气味

toenails, sweat and rotten vegetables, pyre ash.

脚趾甲、汗液和腐烂蔬菜的味儿， 还有火葬的柴灰

Because we believe that Axe Body Spray

因为我们认为你应该

is something that you should only find on the battlefield,

在战场找斧牌香体喷雾

not under your arms. (Laughter)

而不是在你的腋下去找 （笑声）

And these are robot emotion chips,

我们还出售机器人情感晶片

so robots can feel love or fear.

有了晶片，机器人就能 感受到爱或恐惧

Our biggest seller is Schadenfreude,

店内最畅销产品是「幸灾乐祸」

which we did not expect.

这是我们没有想到的

(Laughter)

（笑声）

We did not think that was going to happen.

我们从未想过会如此畅销

But there's a nonprofit behind it,

但这家店后面的写作中心，是非盈利性质的

and kids go through a door that says "Employees Only"

孩子们进入门上贴有「非员工勿进」标示的写作中心

and they end up in this space

然后就在这里做功课、

where they do homework and write stories

编故事、制作电影

and make films and this is a book release party

这是新书发布会

where kids will read.

孩子们在这里阅读

There's a quarterly that's published

这里每季度都要发行

with just writing that's done by the kids

孩子们利用每天放学后的时间

who come every day after school,

在这里完成的写作作品

and we have release parties

我们还举行发布会

and they eat cake and read for their parents

孩子们一边吃着蛋糕 一边把作品读给父母听

and drink milk out of champagne glasses.

还用香槟酒杯喝牛奶

And it's a very special space,

这里真的是一个很特别的地方

because it's this weird space in the front.

完全是因为前面的那家怪异商店

The joke isn't a joke.

笑话不再是笑话

You can't find the seams on the fiction,

小说里看不出拼接的痕迹

and I love that. It's this little bit of fiction

我超爱这点，正是这种小小说

that's colonized the real world.

俘获了现实世界

I see it as kind of a book in three dimensions.

我觉得它有点像三维立体书

There's a term called metafiction,

有个词叫「元小说」

and that's just stories about stories,

即讲述小说的小说

and meta's having a moment now.

现在「元」的概念非常热门

Its last big moment was probably in the 1960s

上次流行的时候可能是 1960 年代

with novelists like John Barth and William Gaddis,

以小说家约翰•巴思 和威廉•加迪斯为代表

but it's been around.

这个技法现在还有人在用

It's almost as old as storytelling itself.

它的历史几乎和讲故事一样久远

And one metafictive technique

其中有一个元小说技巧

is breaking the fourth wall. Right?

是打破第 4 堵墙 对吧

It's when an actor will turn to the audience

举个例子，演员面向观众

and say, "I am an actor,

说道：「我是个演员

these are just rafters."

他们只是些椽木」

And even that supposedly honest moment,

即使是这种看似诚实的介绍

I would argue, is in service of the lie,

在我看来，也是为了揭露谎言

but it's supposed to foreground the artificiality

使小说人为的虚构性

of the fiction.

更加突出

For me, I kind of prefer the opposite.

对我而言，我喜欢反其道而行之

If I'm going to break down the fourth wall,

如果我要拆除第 4 堵墙

I want fiction to escape

我希望小说逃离

and come into the real world.

进入现实世界

I want a book to be a secret door that opens

我希望书籍能成为一扇秘密之门

and lets the stories out into reality.

开启故事王国，再进入现实世界

And so I try to do this in my books.

写自己的书时我一直努力这样做

And here's just one example.

举个简单的例子

This is the first book that I ever made.

这是我写的第一本书

It's called "Billy Twitters and his Blue Whale Problem."

书名叫《比利推特和他的蓝鲸问题》

And it's about a kid who gets a blue whale as a pet

故事讲述一个小孩 养了一条蓝鲸当宠物

but it's a punishment

后果可想而知

and it ruins his life.

毁了他整个人生

So it's delivered overnight by FedUp.

这只蓝鲸以肥死快递送到

(Laughter)

（笑声）

And he has to take it to school with him.

他还得带蓝鲸去学校

He lives in San Francisco —

他住在旧金山

very tough city to own a blue whale in.

这个城市能养条蓝鲸很不容易

A lot of hills, real estate is at a premium.

那里山多、房价高

This market's crazy, everybody.

市场简直不可理喻，各位

But underneath the jacket is this case,

书的封套下面是这个盒子

and that's the cover underneath the book, the jacket,

那是书下面的封面 封套

and there's an ad

上面是一则广告

that offers a free 30-day risk-free trial

30 天免费试养蓝鲸

for a blue whale.

30 天免费试养蓝鲸

And you can just send in a self-addressed stamped envelope

读者只需寄来一个含邮资信封 写上自己的姓名和地址

and we'll send you a whale.

我们将给您寄去一条蓝鲸

And kids do write in.

还真有孩子写信过来

So here's a letter. It says, "Dear people,

这是其中的一封 上面说道：「敬启者，

I bet you 10 bucks you won't send me a blue whale.

我赌 10 美元 你们肯定不会给我寄蓝鲸

Eliot Gannon (age 6)."

艾略特•甘农（6 岁）

(Laughter) (Applause)

（笑声）（掌声）

So what Eliot and the other kids

艾略特和其他写信给我们的孩子

who send these in get back

收到的是

is a letter in very small print from a Norwegian law firm —

一封小号字体打印的信 由挪威一家法律事务所寄出

(Laughter) —

（笑声）

that says that due to a change in customs laws,

信上说，由于海关法修订后

their whale has been held up in Sognefjord,

他们的蓝鲸滞留在松恩峡湾

which is a very lovely fjord,

挪威最美丽的峡湾之一

and then it just kind of talks about Sognefjord

信中接着聊了一会松恩峡湾

and Norwegian food for a little while. It digresses.

和挪威的美食。律师也离题了

(Laughter)

（笑声）

But it finishes off by saying that

信最后说道

your whale would love to hear from you.

「蓝鲸期待收到你的回信

He's got a phone number,

他有电话号码

and you can call and leave him a message.

欢迎你来电留言」

And when you call and leave him a message,

当孩子们真的来电留言时

you just, on the outgoing message,

电话这头的录音

it's just whale sounds and then a beep,

是鲸的声音 然后是「哔」的一声

which actually sounds a lot like a whale sound.

确实很像鲸的声音

And they get a picture of their whale too.

他们还收到一张蓝鲸的照片

So this is Randolph,

照片里是伦道夫

and Randolph belongs to a kid named Nico

伦道夫属于一位叫尼科的小朋友

who was one of the first kids to ever call in,

他也是第一位打电话来的小读者

and I'll play you some of Nico's message.

现在我给大家放一些尼科的留言

This is the first message I ever got from Nico.

这是我收到尼科的第一条留言

(Audio) Nico: Hello, this is Nico.

（录音）尼科：你好！我是尼科

I am your owner, Randolph. Hello.

我是你的主人，伦道夫。你好啊

So this is the first time I can ever talk to you,

嗯 这是我第一次和你聊天

and I might talk to you soon another day. Bye.

呃，改天我再找你聊了。拜

Mac Barnett: So Nico called back, like, an hour later.

马克•巴内特：然后呢 大概过了一个小时尼科又打过来

(Laughter)

（笑声）

And here's another one of Nico's messages.

这是尼科的另一条留言

(Audio) Nico: Hello, Randolph, this is Nico.

（录音）尼科：你好 伦道夫，我是尼科

I haven't talked to you for a long time,

好久没和你聊天了

but I talked to you on Saturday or Sunday,

我周六还是周日找你聊过吧

yeah, Saturday or Sunday,

没错，周六或周日

so now I'm calling you again

所以我才又给你打电话了

to say hello and I wonder what you're doing right now,

你好吗，我想知道你现在干嘛呀

and I'm going to probably call you again

我大概会在明天或者今天

tomorrow or today,

再给你打电话

so I'll talk to you later. Bye.

到时我再跟你聊咯，拜

MB: So he did, he called back that day again.

麦克：果然，他当天又打过来了

He's left over 25 messages for Randolph

他一共给伦道夫录了25条留言

over four years.

持续四年的时间

You find out all about him

你会非常了解他

and the grandma that he loves

如他喜爱的奶奶

and the grandma that he likes a little bit less —

还有他比较不喜欢的另一位奶奶

(Laughter) —

（笑声）

and the crossword puzzles that he does,

还有，知道他做的填字游戏

and this is — I'll play you one more message from Nico.

让我们听听另一则尼科的留言

This is the Christmas message from Nico.

这是尼科的圣诞留言

[Beep] (Audio) Nico: Hello, Randolph,

[哔]（录音）尼科：你好，伦道夫

sorry I haven't talked to you in a long time.

对不起，我好久没有和你聊天了

It's just that I've been so busy

主要是我一直很忙

because school started,

因为开学了

as you might not know, probably,

你可能不明白，也许吧

since you're a whale, you don't know,

毕竟你是鲸鱼，自然不知道了

and I'm calling you to just say,

我打电话给你，是想说

to wish you a merry Christmas.

祝你圣诞快乐

So have a nice Christmas,

圣诞快乐啊

and bye-bye, Randolph. Goodbye.

拜拜，伦道夫，拜拜

MB: I actually got Nico,

麦克：我很久没听到尼科打电话来

I hadn't heard from in 18 months,

大约18 个月了

and he just left a message two days ago.

不过就在两天前 他留言了

His voice is completely different,

他的声音变化很大

but he put his babysitter on the phone,

他也让保姆讲电话

and she was very nice to Randolph as well.

她对伦道夫也很好

But Nico's the best reader I could hope for.

尼科是我所梦想的最好的读者

I would want anyone I was writing for

我希望我的每位读者

to be in that place emotionally

都能如此用心感受

with the things that I create.

我创造的东西

I feel lucky. Kids like Nico are the best readers,

我觉得很幸运 像尼科这样的小朋友是最好的读者

and they deserve the best stories we can give them.

他们值得我们给他们创作最好的故事

Thank you very much.

谢谢各位

(Applause)

（掌声）